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Posted May 4, 2013 by `Roxas`

You are dead and gone (dead and gone)!

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I may gone, but I'll never be dead!!!!!! My memory will last in the hearts and minds of my companions! {boo}

May 4, 2013
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Helius

Your only companion is dead with you. {roll}

May 4, 2013
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`Roxas`

I just saw that. I'm glad we could go all Shakespeare and Romeo & Juliet on each other.

May 4, 2013
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Helius

I felt things needed a bit of class before things got really gruesome. That, and I just bought and finished the manga yesterday, so that might have had some influence on the decision.

May 4, 2013
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`Roxas`

There's a manga?

May 4, 2013
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Helius

That was a bit weird. But masterfully written and clever. I deserve a dramatic death anyway.

I like the role selection here, seems very balanced. I like Cop and Sensor with no Doctor, makes it very interesting.

Also inb4 Dooku is Mafia

May 4, 2013
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White Thunder

Mhm, anime too: Romeo x Juliet.

Also inb4 Dooku is Mafia

You'll see!

May 4, 2013
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`Roxas`

Also MM9

May 5, 2013
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White Thunder

Castrael is playing too safe. (:S)

Its hard for me to figure out who the Mafia will kill the first night because there is just sooo many choices, but I have a feeling that based off their lynch result for the first night, we'll have a good idea who the Mafia is. Especially if they do the route of... they are a good player let's lynch them.

May 5, 2013
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Helius

I think with the recent Redack craze the Mafia might be inclined to leave him alive and then use that as "proof" that he's Mafia to lynch him. I've been thinking about that strategy for quite some time. That's one of the reasons I already think MM9 is Mafia because he brought light to that in his very first post. But we'll see.

May 5, 2013
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White Thunder

The living are so boring, aren't they?

May 6, 2013
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`Roxas`

Tell me about it. Well, we should get one more in here tonight anyway.

May 6, 2013
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White Thunder

Or three more!

May 6, 2013
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`Roxas`

One can only hope {:P}

May 6, 2013
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White Thunder

If we get three more in here, it will become a P-A-R-T-Y!

May 6, 2013
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Helius

Definitely at least two: The Governator and a Mafioso. Perhaps a Townie or the Sensor, depending on what the Assassin does.

May 6, 2013
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`Roxas`

Three people will indeed be joining your ranks among the dead!

May 6, 2013
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`Roxas`

I welcome Trever Leingod, Feral, and hezekiah to the Afterlife!

May 6, 2013
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`Roxas`

Aw. Was posting in the mafia thread, then was no longer that role.

May 7, 2013
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hezekiah

My early money is on Speed as Vigilante.

May 7, 2013
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hezekiah

Either Majora is incredibly unlucky or the world's biggest cheap prick. Hopefully, the former.

May 7, 2013
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Feral

...but likely the later. Fooling me by pretending to be the cop was a truly dick move. Also, quite brilliant.

May 7, 2013
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Feral

Roxas, if Majora is the Assasin, I wold like to file an official appeal. I contest that using an out-of-forum type of communication to fool me into thinking he was another role and manipulating me into revealing my role to him to kill off without risk was unfair. This kind of behavior quickly makes me lose my will to even play.

If he is really the Cop, then disregard this.

May 7, 2013
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Feral

I know the feeling all too well, Feral. Redack's done it to me a few times. (cry)

May 7, 2013
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`Roxas`

So the bastard was.

Sorry Roxas, no offense to you and your game, but I am not interested in playing if people are going to play dirty.

May 7, 2013
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Feral

And to add on, you could have easily ignored him or told him you didn't want to discuss the game privately.

May 7, 2013
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`Roxas`

It happens. I know a few times when Knux and Teddy were playing, they'd willingly tell me their roles and I'd use it to my advantage as best as I could (Mason-Cult game when they were Mafia).

May 7, 2013
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`Roxas`

Damnit, I was already incredibly uncomfortable with my role to begin with. I was already wishing for an alliance.

I suppose I can't appeal what is technically not against the rules, but I will not be participating in the dead thread. If I stay around the game, it will be to hard not to go ratting out his role to everybody, and I don't want to ruin the game for everybody else. No idea when I will start playing again, either.

May 7, 2013
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Feral

Oh come on, don't be such a downer about getting killed, use it as a learning experience. I got duped one game by someone (lancer, maybe?) faking a silence and me thinking I could trust him. I didn't get super mad about him tricking me, it's just what the maid needs to do. You'll grow as a player due to experiences like that. If anything, I should be annoyed due to dying from a 5% chance.

May 7, 2013
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hezekiah

MM9 actually wound up contacting me via Notifications when I was the UFO Hunter. It worked out to my advantage because I received a little bit of leeway.

It's easy to do as suggested and not respond, but you could also lay your own subterfuge.

May 7, 2013
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Helius

Geeeeez. Quite an eventful night. And I had MM9 pegged as Mafia from his first reply, so I guess that makes me a winner {:P}

Feral, if you don't mind me asking, what was your role?

May 7, 2013
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White Thunder

And I wonder how the Vig has hezy pegged as Mafia. Maybe it was just a lucky shot in the dark.

May 7, 2013
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White Thunder

One of the mafia said something that could end up costing them if the town picks up on it. It's been ignored so far, though.

May 7, 2013
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hezekiah

lancer's been talking a lot.

May 7, 2013
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White Thunder

And I wonder how the Vig has hezy pegged as Mafia. Maybe it was just a lucky shot in the dark.

My early money is on Speed as Vigilante.

I agree, it is probably Speed or Hindy, they have no hesitance when it comes to making a kill. Either that or it's someone who isn't fond of hezekiah.

And sheesh, 3 kills in one night! In the last game (17.1) it took until Day 2 before someone even died.

I finally get a power role and I die the first night {:(} And the sad thing is, I knew it. Before I even looked at my role I was like "I'm gonna be dead aren't I?" Apparently I was too much of a big mouth last game, either that or someone wanted revenge on me or something... I mean really, what did I say this game that made me such a target?

Roxas, if Majora is the Assassin, I wold like to file an official appeal. I contest that using an out-of-forum type of communication to fool me into thinking he was another role and manipulating me into revealing my role to him to kill off without risk was unfair. This kind of behavior quickly makes me lose my will to even play.

Sorry to say but that's really your own doing {:?} That'd be basically like revealing your role in the main thread and then asking for an appeal because some goaded you into revealing when there was no need for it.

May 7, 2013
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Trever Leingod

Eh looking back, what I said about the Sensor might have made them think I was the Sensor. Even if I wasn't the only one to mention it.

At this rate I almost wish I had co-hosted again... I hate being confined to the dead thread.

May 7, 2013
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Trever Leingod

Apparently I was too much of a big mouth last game, either that or someone wanted revenge on me or something... I mean really, what did I say this game that made me such a target?

hezy can confirm this, but it was really just a random choice from a list of players. (look)

May 7, 2013
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`Roxas`

Yeah sure it was! {:P}

May 7, 2013
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Trever Leingod

You'll see, bucko!

May 7, 2013
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`Roxas`

That last post by Hindenburg sure sounds like something the Vigilante would say.

May 7, 2013
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hezekiah

Just a thought, Apollo does a lot of "reading" in this forum, but no posts for the entire duration. Why? Could it be that she be he, the part of the mafia men in this here game? That's a whole lot of reading for a whole lot of forum without any posts. Just seems suspicious to me because it seems like the perfect opportunity for discussion at the rate of traffic being generated to this forum.

Eh I know I'm not a participant in this game, but here's to hoping someone gets the idea. Curious to know if I'm right.

May 8, 2013
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LLight

The post I was making when I died was actually to ask the Janitor to hide Trever's body instead of Feral's. Speed's doing his best to make it pay off for us anyway, it seems.

May 8, 2013
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hezekiah

lancer is my next guess.

May 8, 2013
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White Thunder

Well damn, hopefully nobody saw a reply in the rant thread before I moved it. (cry)

May 8, 2013
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`Roxas`

I think you should move it in here.

May 8, 2013
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hezekiah

I'll go dig it up from the Bin now, I guess.

May 9, 2013
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`Roxas`

And since everybody that's in this thread is on staff, there aren't any issues with seeing it.

May 9, 2013
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`Roxas`

Actually I'm not any more {:P} they really should remove my Mod icon.

May 9, 2013
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White Thunder

I'm not pissed anymore. Still disgusted and a bit hurt that someone would take atvntage of my naivety, but resigned to the fact that it's my fault for being so gullible and knowing the the town will hate me when this is over.

Having read through day 2, the town is really squirming like worms on hooks. They are completly directionless and grasping at straws.

Well, all except Speed who has no idea how accurate his theories have been. Talk about a bull's eye.

Oh, and Roxas, you added Kaotic under the wrong account. He wanted to use his Kaotix one, which is why he is inactive. Could you please talk to him about playing? Thanks.

May 9, 2013
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Feral

lancer was the one who added him to the list. We were under the impression that was the account he'd be using. Is there any way we can ghost him into that account?

May 9, 2013
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`Roxas`

{fp}{fp} Well, I undid the tag on it so now that you can see it, Thunder.

May 9, 2013
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`Roxas`

Thunder, I was the sensor, hense why the town will revive me so they can lynch me themselves.

I have to talk to him. He should be able to access the game himself. I think he is confused with how it works.

May 9, 2013
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Feral

Oh geez.

May 9, 2013
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White Thunder

Everybody, give a nice, cold warm Dead Thread welcome to Castrael!

May 10, 2013
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`Roxas`

I'm getting tired of being thrown under the bus.

<< This game ain't fair.

May 10, 2013
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Castrael

Things just don't go your way; you're the new(er) Trever!

May 10, 2013
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`Roxas`

Town is getting quite lucky so far.

May 10, 2013
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hezekiah

^ yeah they are. Poor Cas, I don't really think she did anything wrong. And I can't believe nobody has said a word against MM9 yet.

May 10, 2013
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White Thunder

I just told the Mafia to go after Dooku. Prob won't listen though. I've been the newer Trev since I was a Townie. xD

Thanks Thunder. :3 I definitely didn't.

May 10, 2013
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Castrael

I am now 90% certain that Speed is Mafia. He tried to turn the lynch wagon from Cas to CTR early on, and only changed his vote to reflect the rest after resigning to Cas' death.

May 10, 2013
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Feral

Yep, Cas and I will always go fast most games (shifty) They just can't stand to let us live {troll}

May 10, 2013
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Trever Leingod

But you still can't beat the early death record held by Xhin and Red.{:P}

May 10, 2013
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Feral

Gay.

May 10, 2013
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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

My pre-game joke-guess that Dooku was Mafia was wrong... oh dang (duck)

Hindy, you think Speed could be the Vigilante?

May 10, 2013
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White Thunder

Heh, I can tell you that all of you are wrong on your guesses.

May 10, 2013
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Castrael

The one game where I'm utterly not paying attention and of no credible threat to anyone... and they kill me.

CASTRAEL >.<

May 10, 2013
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Count Dooku

And now we wait. *sits on throne*

May 10, 2013
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`Roxas`

No idea, Whitey. Possibly, but I doubt it. He DID try to deflect from Castrael though, which is a little out of character, so I think he might be Mafia.

May 10, 2013
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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

Cas just lied anyway. We already know Majora is a correct guess because Roxas confirmed it.

Hindy and Dooku, sorry that my gullibility caused the town their biggest weapon. Majora is a master manipulator.

May 10, 2013
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Feral

Wait, what role were you?

May 10, 2013
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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

Oh, I forgot you guys mentioned Majora.

Sorry about that.

I HAD to Dooku! <3

May 10, 2013
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Castrael

Feral was the Sensor, Hindy.

Cas and hezy, what were the Mafia's thoughts on how to deal with Redack? Just wondering with him having a record of being spot-on with his suspicions. I thought he'd be dead by now.

(Unless he's Mafia, which I doubt. If that's the case just PM me and tell me, 'cause I really wanna know.)

May 10, 2013
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White Thunder

No idea.

The only plan that I know of is, is Majora and Yeano going against each other. Both are Mafia. They haven't said much of Red. I don't think.

May 10, 2013
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Castrael

Damnit, Lancer! Don't let Majora manipulate you into killing Yeano(obviously innocent now)! Listen to Speed and Redack!

May 10, 2013
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Feral

The Vig was worried that they died because of the Thread Title. (hehe)

May 10, 2013
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`Roxas`

Whoop, missed Cas' last reply. Well, their plan worked. They have Lancer hook line and sinker.

May 10, 2013
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Feral

Im guessing the Mafia is hoping to have the town lynch one of their own.

May 10, 2013
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Castrael

Well, Chief caused some uncertainty with his semi-wanting to play, but it seems cleared up. I can see this round going the the end with no concensious.

May 11, 2013
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Feral

Somthing odd about Speed. His certainty of my role seems to confirm him being Mafia, but why is he blabbing it to the town? Trying to cause intentional confusion, perhaps?

Hindy, you didn't say anything to him did you? I know you guys are close friends, and it is easy to let somthing slip in a Xat like atmosphere.

May 11, 2013
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Feral

Like I said, I think he may be Mafia. I have no idea what he's doing at this point, but I am more upset that there wasn't even a funeral for me...

May 11, 2013
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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

...

May 11, 2013
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hezekiah

I'm with Hezy on this...

{fp}

May 11, 2013
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Castrael

This round is boring.

May 12, 2013
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White Thunder

Too boring. Way too boring.

May 12, 2013
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`Roxas`

Very boring. I agree. but lets see if people follow Redack to lynch Majora. If they don't lynch Majora, fhen Redack's dead next round. I think.

May 12, 2013
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Castrael

It's boring because we're dead {:P} Being dead isn't a whole lot of fun.

May 13, 2013
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Trever Leingod

Hoo hoo hoo hoo,
Show Spoiler


May 13, 2013
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`Roxas`

Another 3-fer?!? We are so lucky {:P}

May 13, 2013
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White Thunder

ALAS! That shall not be the case, though a Mafioso and the Cop will be joining tonight, and the Vigilante the next.

May 13, 2013
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`Roxas`

Damn. Mafia is on a roll.

May 13, 2013
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Feral

Welcome, CtR Black, The Bandit and Yeano! Oh, and soon to be MM9 and white lancer too!

May 14, 2013
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`Roxas`

Hi Yeano...

May 14, 2013
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hezekiah

Preemptive hi MajorasMask9...

May 14, 2013
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hezekiah

Wow, this place is filling up fast! With Majora and Yeano both gone in one fell swoop(basically), the entire game is gonna change.

Be interesting to see who steps up to lead the town now...

May 14, 2013
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Feral

I play bad.

May 14, 2013
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The Bandit

Yeano!!! Grrr

May 14, 2013
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Castrael

ownage

May 14, 2013
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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

Unfortunate. Good for lancer, though. We didn't expect him to be the vigilante at all.

Also, Bandit, we were more expecting you to be the Vigilante, but were open to the possibility of you being the Cop.

May 14, 2013
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Yeano

I had a feeling lancer was a power role. But, I wonder what Redack is. Also, this game will end quick.

May 14, 2013
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Castrael

Well, that's all the town power roles, so Redack is a Townie, as is everyone else town-sided who will be alive during the next day round.

May 14, 2013
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Yeano

Welcome Majora... :/

May 14, 2013
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Castrael

Everyone in the town said they were too focused on Yeano to think about MM9. I, on the other hand, had MM9 pegged right away and wouldn't have suspected Yeano unless Cas has told us he was Mafia. So either I'm just selectively skilled or entirely lucky. One or the other.

May 14, 2013
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White Thunder

sigh Helllloo :(

Preemptive hi white lancer.

Two mafiosos left and I honestly think they might stand a good chance at winning. Depends on how the next Day round goes.

alsoimsorryferal

May 14, 2013
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MajorasMask9

Was just going over numbers and stuff and it seems that as long as the town mislynches two more times the mafia will win.

white lancer will die tonight and I'm almost positive chiefsonny will be the next nightkill target after lancer. If a townie gets lynched Day 5 and again in Day 6 the ratio at the start of Day 7 will be 3-2. At this point, the mafia will probably be able to tie the vote and kill someone at night.

Pretty exciting stuff.

May 14, 2013
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MajorasMask9

white lancer will die tonight

Don't know if I'd set that in stone just yet. The others haven't really discussed things since you were booted. {n} Honestly, I was expecting much more entertaining discussion in the Mafia thread AND Day threads.

May 14, 2013
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`Roxas`

I cannot believe the town went for CtR Black over Yeano, he had guilty written all over him. He always plays the same way as Mafia {:P} The town isn't doing too bad considering a few mislynches and the Assassin helping the Mafia pulling off two kills a night. And now to just finish off the last two...

May 14, 2013
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Trever Leingod

Everybody, give a Dead Thread welcome to white lancer!

May 14, 2013
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`Roxas`

I see the game getting very quiet now. Yoshi and Speed are the only big debaters left(Red and chief aren't really into this game). Cas said that Speed isn't Mafia(I'm not fully convinced of that, but...), so if Yoshi is one of the remaining Mafia, they may have it.

May 14, 2013
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Feral

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May 14, 2013
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MajorasMask9

I cannot believe the town went for CtR Black over Yeano

I thought CtR was guilty too, which was why I didn't think it really mattered too much when I switched my vote. If I had paid more attention afterward I would have swung it back around, but I just abandoned the thread. But, yeah, Yeano was the obvious choice. Every post he made was just super weird to me. Maybe he always talks like that, idk.

Everyone is always suspicious of Redack. : /

May 14, 2013
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The Bandit

You people and your Skype and Yahoo tomfoolery...

A fucking men Jo Nathan. I hate that shit.

May 14, 2013
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The Bandit

Wow, that was the most fun game of Mafia I've had in a while. Didn't hurt that it was also the best game I've played in a while--had a big hand in the deaths of four Mafia members and zero Town members. I'm not really sure who the last two are, though--I could see a convincing case for almost anyone.

Unfortunate. Good for lancer, though. We didn't expect him to be the vigilante at all.

That was the main reason I took a shot on the first night. Hezekiah wasn't exactly a random choice, but I wasn't especially suspicious of him, either. I think I had a longer explanation as to why I picked him in my thread, but it boiled down to me choosing not to target any of the big talkers (MM9, Yeano, Redack) or any of the newcomers, and I saw hezekiah as potentially the most dangerous Mafia member. Big talkers like MM9 and Yeano are definitely dangerous players, but they also talk more and give you more opportunity to read them; additionally, they can be hugely helpful if they turn out to be on the same side. I didn't expect hezy to post often enough for me to get a solid read on him, which could have been a devastating UTR game on his part.

I cannot believe the town went for CtR Black over Yeano, he had guilty written all over him.

You're telling me. I was about as confident that Yeano was guilty as I ever have been about anyone (I always second-guess myself, but this time I was almost sure), and it was a little surprising to me that not a whole lot of people picked up on what I saw. Redack especially surprised me, though I suppose it's possible that he had the opposite problem--while I was focused on Yeano, he was focused on MM9.

Everyone in the town said they were too focused on Yeano to think about MM9. I, on the other hand, had MM9 pegged right away and wouldn't have suspected Yeano unless Cas has told us he was Mafia. So either I'm just selectively skilled or entirely lucky. One or the other.

The last time I played with MM9, I wound up finding him suspicious based on low activity the first couple of day rounds and me reading too much into some of his posts. I was making a conscious effort not to do that with him this time because he often seems a little fishy to me even when he isn't. There were two things that made me a little wary (he never actually voted for Yeano, and he practically copied my arguments against Redack and Yeano without acknowledging that), but yeah, I was too focused at Yeano at that point.

I honestly wouldn't blame the Town for being suspicious of Redack. I was trying to figure out his inactivity myself--I even toyed with the possibility of him being the Cop and playing an UTR game (though I didn't think he would spend a check on Castrael). I also was wary of him when he didn't seem to pick up on Yeano.

May 14, 2013
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white lancer

I'm wondering if Redack has ever made it to Day 5 before. {:P} Despite how suspicious he looks, it was probably dangerous for the Mafia to leave him around this long. It's time for him to consult his witch doctors again.

A fucking men Jo Nathan. I hate that shit.

I don't disagree entirely. I never go out of my way to talk to anyone outside of the game because I prefer to have everything out in the open. Sometimes Redack or (very rarely) someone else will contact me on AIM, though, and we'll talk for a little bit. Ironically, I'm pretty sure I blocked Redack on AIM one game because I didn't want to talk to anyone except in the main thread, and then I forgot to unblock him. (hehe)

May 14, 2013
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white lancer

One more thing (and potential controversy alert): I'm officially voiding any points Feral might get from this game (including victory points, if applicable) because he contacted me about the game after he was killed. I don't know that it really affected the game all that much, as it actually mostly made me suspicious of Redack and I spent the next couple of days debating whether the Sensor was still alive or not anyway, but it's hard to unsee something like that and I'm sure it affected my thinking on an unconscious level even though I was trying to forget it.

Sorry about that, Feral, but I feel like that's a rule that I need to be strict about (because it can potentially ruin a game). I'm trying to decide if that's harsh enough, tbh. :-/

May 14, 2013
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white lancer

If I hadn't been revealed as the Assassin I was going to go after Redack last round too. Was in the middle of writing up a reply and everything. I felt he did way too much communication off-site (without going into detail regarding the last mafia members, I'm pretty sure he contacted at least three of us individually off-site,) to the point where I thought it was enough to use against him. That, and I heard that some people were already pretty suspicious of him based on private communications. I almost think it would have been an easy lynch, especially with the amount of new players that haven't seen him post all that much.

May 14, 2013
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MajorasMask9

Despite the fact that Majora and I weren't quite the dream team we hoped to be, I think we did some pretty nice setup before we died.

We were able to identify and almost complete the process of eliminating all town-sided power roles, even if we had luck on our side.

Now, it remains for the rest of the mafia to see this to the end, which could potentially work, seeing as how everyone seems suspicious in some aspect, so mislynches are quite possible.

May 14, 2013
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Yeano

I'm not saying it's a sure shot that the Mafia wins this game, but if we do, it really has been a team effort.

Sure, Majora has been the most helpful by eliminating Feral at the beginning of the game by sheer luck, but all of us (except hezekiah because he didn't have a chance to contribute {:(}) have been extremely useful to our success so far.

Castrael didn't get to do much before she was killed, but she helped. And certainly the other two mafia members will earn their stripes by the end of the game (even though one could argue they've been useful enough already - whatever our plan is).

May 14, 2013
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Yeano

And certainly the other two mafia members will earn their stripes by the end of the game (even though one could argue they've been useful enough already - whatever our plan is).


Dude you have no idea how surprised I am that Redack isn't going after Speed. I think he's going to make it to the end, despite Black Yoshi suspecting him.

May 14, 2013
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MajorasMask9

I was planning to be more active this game too, lancer (crs)

May 14, 2013
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hezekiah

If only I stayed a bit longer in the game. :/

May 15, 2013
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Castrael

Redack's in a rough spot as the last "power player" standing--especially for someone with his reputation, there are always people who are going to be wondering, "hey, why isn't that guy dead yet?" Even I was going to be a little worried about that--if I had made an analysis post before that last day round ended, I was planning on expressing some misgivings about Redack before advising that the Town trust him...for now. The best course of action for the Town would be to leave him alive for several rounds and hope that a) he helps smoke out the last two Mafia members or b) the Mafia decide it's too much of a risk to keep him alive and Nightkill him. If neither of those happen, you can always lynch him later (which was my thought process when I backed down on him after Castrael), but it's risky to get rid of a player like Redack if you're not 100% sure. They've got some breathing room, so there's no urgent need to take him out.

I'm not saying it's a sure shot that the Mafia wins this game, but if we do, it really has been a team effort.

Sure, Majora has been the most helpful by eliminating Feral at the beginning of the game by sheer luck, but all of us (except hezekiah because he didn't have a chance to contribute ) have been extremely useful to our success so far.

Castrael didn't get to do much before she was killed, but she helped. And certainly the other two mafia members will earn their stripes by the end of the game (even though one could argue they've been useful enough already - whatever our plan is).

Indeed, the Mafia have played this game well so far. You two going against each other so hard was awesome, and it's pretty crazy how much chaos that single use of Castrael's Janitor power caused. And these last two (whoever they are) have played well to get to this point without having major suspicion on them. It's pretty cool that you lost an average of one Mafia member per day (through a combination of luck and detective skills) but still have a decent chance of winning the game.

I do think that if Speed's Mafia, he may be overplaying his hand here. He's already got some suspicion on him because he twice attempted to deflect the vote off a Mafia member and onto CtR, and if he leads the charge against power player Redack and gets another innocent lynched, I could see the Town turning on him.

I like how no one is even looking FAW's way. She's a sneaky one--last game she showed up and saved the game for the Town in the last couple of days, and it wasn't the first time she's done that. If she's Mafia, I would be very, very concerned about her, and if she's Town, she's one of the bigger threats left IMO.

May 15, 2013
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white lancer

I was planning to be more active this game too, lancer

Heh, sorry about that. I just saw one post by you in the first round and decided I probably wouldn't ever get a good read off of you if you were Mafia, so you seemed like the best target!

I want to know why you guys offed Trever. Did you suspect that he was a power role, or was that just luck? My pet theory was that y'all wanted to foster the illusion that Feral's kill was random, so you picked someone else at random as well. {:P}

May 15, 2013
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white lancer

Well I certainly can't answer why they killed Trever, nor can I even remember who the last 2 mafia are...

May 15, 2013
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hezekiah

If I recall correctly, Majora made a list of people who could potentially be the Cop based on Day 1 posts. For whatever reason, Trever was at the top of the list or we picked him from the list or something.

I don't remember all too clearly, but once the game is over, we can check for sure.

May 15, 2013
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Yeano

I have no issue with losing my points. Though he is to much of a gentleman(and Mafioso) to say it, I sent him the same message. I was beyond pissed at the time. I actually intended to inform, and discuss with, you and Roxas of the messages after the game ended, so I could be punished however you saw fit.

BTW, Majora, you DO know that I will never be able to trust you in game again, right?

May 15, 2013
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Feral

*him being Count Dooku.{:/}

May 15, 2013
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Feral

That is correct, Yeano.

May 15, 2013
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`Roxas`

I like how no one is even looking FAW's way.

She was my last cop check. :(

May 15, 2013
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The Bandit

I like how no one is even looking FAW's way.

Yeah really. She's the complete opposite of Cas, she's always overlooked and rarely found suspicious no matter what she does.

If I recall correctly, Majora made a list of people who could potentially be the Cop based on Day 1 posts. For whatever reason, Trever was at the top of the list or we picked him from the list or something.

I'd like to know why I was a suspect as the cop. It'll be interesting to see when the game ends.

May 15, 2013
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Trever Leingod

Am I the only that tries to lynch her or is this a guy attack "popular" girl that talks too much kind of thing?

May 15, 2013
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Castrael

XD

May 15, 2013
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Castrael

???

May 15, 2013
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`Roxas`

No idea, all I can say is, people are very good when it comes to pegging you as Mafia, which you have been a lot (more than me and I've been playing longer, and you were Janitor twice). I dunno how though, since your reasons for inactivity is generally the only thing that differs and it seems that's all anyone needs to shot you down.

May 16, 2013
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Trever Leingod

I think it has more to do with a general vibe Cas gives off when she's Mafia. It's hard to explain and I can't really put my finger on what it is that makes her seem guilty, but something about her definitely seemed off. I toyed with the idea of taking her out first round instead of hezekiah (also thought about going for chief), but I decided that she dies early so often that I wanted to let her play longer. You really have the worst luck when it comes to being assigned as Mafia, Cas.

May 16, 2013
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white lancer

Yeah and being Mafia sucks. I think it's because almost everyone here knows me :/

May 16, 2013
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Castrael

I've been playing since game 1, and have only ever been Mafia twice. I seem to be a magnet for townie power roles, though.

May 16, 2013
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Feral

Rather bland day round. (cry)

May 17, 2013
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`Roxas`

Sorry Roxas, I'd make it more exciting but I'm dead...

:P and Redack will probably try and kill me again

May 17, 2013
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Castrael

I'm thinking maybe the rounds need to be shortened with as little activity that there has been.

May 17, 2013
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`Roxas`

Three hours remain in the round; two votes for Redack, one vote for Apollo, one vote for Speed, and one Not Voting.

`Roxas`


Read this in Jeff Probst's voice.

May 17, 2013
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MajorasMask9

Welcome, Mr. Redack...

May 17, 2013
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Yeano

...and Redack takes one for the team.

May 17, 2013
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Feral

ehehheehhehehehhehehehhehehehhhhhheehh

May 17, 2013
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MajorasMask9

It's ok... Everything is going exactly as planned... No need to panic...

I think we might lose guys, Speed won't even consider the possibility that Apollo is mafia and everyone else is so inactive.

Also Majora, are you mafia?

May 17, 2013
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Redack

Why don't you ask the cop?

May 17, 2013
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MajorasMask9

I did, he says you're guilty.

May 17, 2013
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Redack

I like the night thread title Rox {:P}

May 17, 2013
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White Thunder

I did, he says you're guilty.


No, you didn't. Because if you were the cop or were in contact with the cop, and I was investigated, you would know that I'm innocent.

May 17, 2013
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MajorasMask9

But I actually did and he actually says you're guilty.

May 18, 2013
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Redack

{fp} I don't believe they actually killed Redack... the town is being rather dumb right now.

May 18, 2013
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Trever Leingod

But I actually did and he actually says you're guilty.


No you didn't because I'm not mafia you jerk!!

May 18, 2013
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MajorasMask9

I seriously wanted to just kill off all remaining players because that's how slow things are going. {fp} Also, while it doesn't really matter, Kaotic might be host killed without points being deducted since there was an oversight on his and our (lancer and my) part. Sucks that it has to come at such a critical point in the game, but it would hurry things up a little bit. I'd at least like to get a game in before I leave!

May 18, 2013
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`Roxas`

You know, ending the day round late didn't exactly help matters.

May 18, 2013
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hezekiah

Not only are you Mafia, Majora, but you stabbed me in the back. So, Apollo and Kyon then? I trust Red's judgement, and have suspected Kyon for awhile(since he started targeting Speed with no motive). I believe Kyon has been nervous of Speed for awhile because Speed's hunch of my role was right.

May 18, 2013
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Feral

To be fair I actually had to decide whether or not I trusted you telling me you were the Sensor :(.

May 18, 2013
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MajorasMask9

@Majora, I just had the strangest sense of déjà-vu...

As for final mafia. If I had to guess from my four current suspects I'd go for Jo Nathan and Apollo... Chief is quiet, which is very odd, but then so was I for most of the game and Kyon's move was probably more of a joke... Just seems too obvious if he is mafia.

May 18, 2013
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Redack

You're a cheater anyway :'(

Seriously though I have no idea how you possibly picked up on some of those obscure things you did (such as Apollo mentioning hezekiah saying "hi" but getting it confused with a mafia thread post, despite the fact that he barely talked Day 1 and CtR Black went the entire day just saying "hi"), and then decided "This set of obscure clues is way more important than every other obscure thing that's happened" and went after the mafia with seemingly 100% certainty. You just seemed to latch on to one thing we did wrong and tried to use it to lynch us, without going after anyone town-sided ever. It just seems way too good for even a normal townie.

I KNOW THIS SOUNDS WHINY AND COMPLAINY but it was a frustrating game. Redack was like that monster in a horror movie that somehow always knows where the main character is. The idea that he was cheating came up a bit IIRC, but I'd like to believe he wasn't and won't even assume he was.

May 18, 2013
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MajorasMask9

Had errands to run early yesterday afternoon, so there was no choice but to end it late.

May 18, 2013
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`Roxas`

I believe Redack used some form of outside communication, same as you. Could be wrong, though.

Why would I have lied about being the sensor? The smart thing for me to do was to lie and say I was a townie. That way, if you were(as was the case) Mafia, you wouldn't actually know my role, and even if you were the Cop as you claimed, I could take the time to build up the trust. My truly biggest mistake was throwing all my apples in one basket at once.

I should have picked up on Jo. Considering how talkative he usual is, he did a great job of slipping under the radar all game. Apollo is new to this, on the other hand, so I didn't know how to read her, and am surprised Red did so well.

Knowing he is a plain townie, I am very impressed with Speed's hunches.

May 18, 2013
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Feral

The difference between what I did and Redack's outside communications was that I doubt people told Redack what their roles were. Outside communication doesn't mean "I'm automatically going to find out everyone's secrets," because the person still has to actually tell you what their role is.

While Redack did use outside communication a lot, it's not like the mafia would tell him "Yeah, I'm the Janitor."

May 18, 2013
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MajorasMask9

And there was originally some concern that you were a Townie or the Cop claiming to be the sensor to ruin an Assassin attempt. While unlikely, the possibility existed.

May 18, 2013
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MajorasMask9

My mafia suspects during the game:

Castrael, she's so obvious do I even need to explain myself?

Majora, whilst we've since established that actually you simply forgot I'd told you. Your attempts to get my lynched didn't add up when you said how I'd asked you to lead the charge on Castrael, since I'd told you why I wanted to I found it extremely suspicious you were doing that to me!

Apollo, eh. I've explained that in the main thread.

I didn't pick up on Hez and because of his quiet nature in this game I probably would've ignored him until late game, even then I don't really know if I would've suspected him. Would've depended what happened.

Yeano... I mostly assumed he was innocent because Majora was trying to incriminate him and I was already fixed on Majora. I did consider the possibility you were both playing us by having your little argument, so that one of you would become "innocent" when it was done but in the end I didn't believe that was the case. Ultimately it didn't matter because the town decided to side with Majora and then Majora fucked up so they both died {:P}

How I play the game is I read everything you all say and I go with my gut feelings, which usually end up being right. I don't put nearly as much thought into it as I let you believe. When I start to suspect someone, then I observe them and hopefully find something to confirm my feelings, but usually I just go with my feelings.

As for my use of outside communication this game... To be honest, I'm fed up of dying on Night 1 or 2 and I believed that being quieter within the game would keep me a live longer. Whether or not that's the reason I survived so long I don't know, but that's why I did it. The only person who can legitly complain about anything I did this game is Majora and I already apologised to him & told him how detailed he looks and giving him flowers.

May 18, 2013
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Redack

How I play the game is I read everything you all say and I go with my gut feelings, which usually ends up being right. I don't put nearly as much thought into it as I let you believe. When I start to suspect someone, then I observe them and hopefully find something to confirm my feelings, but usually I just go with my feelings.


This is also why sometimes my suspicions don't make sense.

May 18, 2013
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Redack

The idea that he was cheating came up a bit IIRC, but I'd like to believe he wasn't and won't even assume he was.

When I was Mafia I said the same thing {:P} and then we killed him Night 1 of course.

May 18, 2013
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White Thunder

Yes, I recall reading that comment Mr Thunder.

Back to the game thought. Chief is looking pretty suspicious to me... He went fairly inactive for a while and now he's come back, no "sorry I was busy" or anything.

I'd say he's highly likely to be one of the final mafia.

May 18, 2013
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Redack

Oh another reason I suspected apollo was because MM9 listed her to me in a list of mafia... Some of which turned out to be lies but I figured some were probably true so that I'd ignore them.

May 18, 2013
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Redack

Darn it Redack, maybe you should keep the suspicions to yourself. {:P}

May 18, 2013
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`Roxas`

Also if the mafia were revealed in this post, I ain't read it... I prefer not for you guys to spoil my guessing.

And well, that's another reason I was quieter this game Roxas. People have a tendency to jump on my suspicions, which granted thus far have been fairly good (but only by luck). One day it's going to get innocent townies killed {:P}

May 18, 2013
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Redack

One o' these days, ol' man Red, one o' these days! {>:(}

May 18, 2013
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`Roxas`

oh hey an update

*sees title*

welp


sorry, innocents whose blood doth stain my hands. But I couldn't find much to go on at times and ended up deciding that doing something at least had a chance of being productive instead of sitting back and hoping for something suspicious to happen. 'Cause there's been a lot of silence around this sleepy burg.

Oh well, my excess workload ends tomorrow so I should be able to approach things with a clear head soon.

May 19, 2013
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Pirate_Ninja

ha, cute read this thread was. Confirmed the nagging suspicion I had but didn't bother sharing because I had no way to back it up - I have no re(dack)putation to put much force to a gut feeling based only on what I know about someone, so it felt pointless to point fingers when the sum total of my evidence was "because shut up I bet it's true."

My suspicion for the other remaining mafia member is notably less concrete and I'm curious to see if anything comes of it. Now to sit back and watch my stories~

May 19, 2013
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Pirate_Ninja

Roxas, how come they need 6 out of 7 people to vote for the same person for a lynch? That doesn't make sense, as it would force one Mafia to out the other...

May 19, 2013
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Feral

Seriously though I have no idea how you possibly picked up on some of those obscure things you did (such as Apollo mentioning hezekiah saying "hi" but getting it confused with a mafia thread post, despite the fact that he barely talked Day 1 and CtR Black went the entire day just saying "hi"), and then decided "This set of obscure clues is way more important than every other obscure thing that's happened" and went after the mafia with seemingly 100% certainty. You just seemed to latch on to one thing we did wrong and tried to use it to lynch us, without going after anyone town-sided ever. It just seems way too good for even a normal townie.

I KNOW THIS SOUNDS WHINY AND COMPLAINY but it was a frustrating game. Redack was like that monster in a horror movie that somehow always knows where the main character is. The idea that he was cheating came up a bit IIRC, but I'd like to believe he wasn't and won't even assume he was.

Heh, I know that frustration. I imagine anyone who has ever played as Mafia while Redack was on the other side has experienced that (although he wasn't infallible this game--he did miss Yeano, at least, for pretty much the same reason I missed MM9). I recall that one game where Redack found me suspicious based on me mentioning that Zanic and I would be gone for a few days, despite the facts that a) it was true and b) I had covered for Zanic before, in a game where he was Mafia and I was a Townie. In situations where the logic doesn't quite add up (like some of my logic for going for Yeano this game), I pretty much assume that the person just has a read on their target and is looking for ways to convince the Town to side with them. I doubt Redack's cheating and I can't imagine this game would be very much fun for him if he was--I just think he's very good at reading people.

Why would I have lied about being the sensor? The smart thing for me to do was to lie and say I was a townie. That way, if you were(as was the case) Mafia, you wouldn't actually know my role, and even if you were the Cop as you claimed, I could take the time to build up the trust. My truly biggest mistake was throwing all my apples in one basket at once.

You shouldn't have mentioned your role at all, at least in a game with an Assassin. {:P} I'm pretty sure I cautioned against doing that in one of my first posts in this game.

Knowing he is a plain townie, I am very impressed with Speed's hunches.

Why? Haven't most of his hunches been wrong? I mean, he did get the Sensor thing right, but he's been playing very aggressively recently against all the wrong people. I'm not surprised people find him suspicious.

The difference between what I did and Redack's outside communications was that I doubt people told Redack what their roles were. Outside communication doesn't mean "I'm automatically going to find out everyone's secrets," because the person still has to actually tell you what their role is.

While Redack did use outside communication a lot, it's not like the mafia would tell him "Yeah, I'm the Janitor."

While this is true, I think it overlooks the fact that it's much harder to act Innocent than it is to be Innocent and behave normally. More OOG communication = more chances for you to slip up and say something that someone like Redack can pick up on. With rare exceptions like Feral's role reveal earlier this game, OOG communication is far more helpful to the Town IMO.


I didn't pick up on Hez and because of his quiet nature in this game I probably would've ignored him until late game, even then I don't really know if I would've suspected him. Would've depended what happened.

Exactly why I picked him as my first target. He would have survived late into the game and been a source of confusion no matter whether he was Innocent or Guilty.

As for my use of outside communication this game... To be honest, I'm fed up of dying on Night 1 or 2 and I believed that being quieter within the game would keep me a live longer. Whether or not that's the reason I survived so long I don't know, but that's why I did it.

I wondered if that might be the case. I spent some time trying to figure out why you were being so quiet--toyed with the idea of you being the Cop and almost had myself convinced on multiple occasions that you were Mafia. But you have a worse track record of dying early than myself or Xhin at this point, so I understand simply wanting to survive longer.

Also if the mafia were revealed in this post, I ain't read it... I prefer not for you guys to spoil my guessing.

The other Mafia members have not been revealed in this post...in fact, I suspect some of the Mafia members have engaged in a little bit of misdirection here. {:P} I really don't know who the last two are. Apollo was on my radar for being the one who actually started the bandwagon against CtR that saved Yeano, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if she turned up Guilty. I had no good read on Kyon (I counted his vote against Cas as a point in his favor, albeit tentatively since MM9 and Yeano going at it made me nervous), or P_N for that matter. Gave Jo a pass for most of the game since he said he was going to be gone before it started, but it definitely is suspicious that he's remained quiet even though he's back now (and he never expounded upon whatever theory he was going to bring up that one day). It would be a toss-up for me between him and FAW. I've mostly considered chief innocent because of that Day 1 Townie claim.

Honestly, if I were in the game now, I would seriously consider voting for Speed. Not even just because of him leading the charge on a couple of mislynches--he's just been playing an unusually aggressive game especially since MM9, Yeano, Bandit, and I got taken out. But I think he's mostly been confirmed innocent in here, so what do I know?

May 19, 2013
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white lancer

I recall that one game where Redack found me suspicious based on me mentioning that Zanic and I would be gone for a few days, despite the facts that a) it was true and b) I had covered for Zanic before, in a game where he was Mafia and I was a Townie.


I remember this one. The interesting thing was that the time before, which was and still is the only other time I can recall you didn't cover for him and that time you were on different teams... Therefore I assumed you were mafia (I think we'd already got Zanic when I started going for you?).

May 19, 2013
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Redack

Gave Jo a pass for most of the game since he said he was going to be gone before it started, but it definitely is suspicious that he's remained quiet even though he's back now (and he never expounded upon whatever theory he was going to bring up that one day)
this is why I was somewhat suspicious of him as one of the remaining mafia. I was considering one spot as a tossup between Jo/Black Yoshi/Redack, but given that most of my suspicion on Jo was based on that fact I only bothered to mention my suspicion of Yoshi during the vote for Redack. Fingering Jo based only on "why aren't you posting more yet" didn't seem like much of a case (especially given how easily someone could say much the same about me). With Yoshi I could've at least thrown some quotes out to maybe stir up a reaction that conclusions could be drawn from. Except for the part where I'm dead now...best-laid plans of mice and men and all that.

The spot I alluded to earlier as a personal gut feeling was Apollo. I had a fairly strong hunch she was mafia based on her behavior, but with an impending deadline and no hard evidence to make a case for it I bowed out and backed the Redack vote as plausible since the votes were tied.

May 19, 2013
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Pirate_Ninja

lancer, whatever happened to Zanic? He was fun to play with.

If chief really is Mafia it's pretty clear that JN is too. If Apollo is Mafia my guess for the other would be Kyon.

May 20, 2013
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White Thunder

It's like Speed is trying his hardest to look guilty.

May 20, 2013
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The Bandit

HE'S MAFIA

May 20, 2013
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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

Should I say who the Mafia are or not?

May 20, 2013
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Castrael

(hehe)

May 20, 2013
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Castrael

the pain of losing me has driven them to lash out at each other, oh the madness of it all~


At this point I'm definitely feeling Apollo and Jo. With no real powers left to throw around, I think he's trying to gain a little trust by distrusting his ally on the ropes - he'll need it if that is indeed the case. And I'm kinda surprised that Speed is so deeply in Apollo's corner - I kinda thought the things that drew my suspicion toward her might have a similar effect on him but it seems not to be the case. Maybe it's because I'm wrong, but I'll honestly be surprised if that's the case.


Should I say who the Mafia are or not?
I don't mind either way, but if I had to choose I'd say no. Suspense!

May 20, 2013
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Pirate_Ninja

Redack has requested that the deceased Mafia not reveal who their living comrades are.

May 20, 2013
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Feral

Roxas, how come they need 6 out of 7 people to vote for the same person for a lynch? That doesn't make sense, as it would force one Mafia to out the other...

Didn't realize five votes would be the threshold until right now. {fp} Thank you for pointing that out, however.

May 20, 2013
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`Roxas`

I'm beginning to think I was wrong about Speed.

May 20, 2013
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Redack

Wait, no, the voting threshold was 6. I've been basing it off of the known ratio, not the living ratio, all game. {:/}

Maybe you were, maybe you weren't.



May 20, 2013
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`Roxas`

lmao he actually did it



May 20, 2013
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Pirate_Ninja

PN, don't laugh with your mouth full please.

Next time you'll be banned for a month.

May 20, 2013
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Redack

Ugh... So we're going to lose another townie over night. I'd guess Black Yoshi but maybe not.

I really think the Mafia stand a good chance of winning this :(

May 20, 2013
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Redack

Last two are devising quite a clever plan.{y}

May 20, 2013
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`Roxas`

Goooooo Mafia!

May 20, 2013
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hezekiah

We can with through the power of FRIENDSHIP.

May 21, 2013
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MajorasMask9

I don't even remember who the two remaining mafia are, that's how long I've been dead...

May 21, 2013
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hezekiah

We can with through the power of FRIENDSHIP.
if I'm not mistaken in my guesses then that's exactly what your saving grace is right now (hehe)

Do me a favor and lose, but feel free to make it a good show.

May 21, 2013
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Pirate_Ninja

Ugh, that was the worst round ever to end in a No-Kill. Seriously, we went from having one potential messed-up vote to having to be correct every time from now on, and we got absolutely nothing in return. It's getting harder to believe that Speed's innocent after that move and his extreme aggression, although I do think both Apollo and Jo Nathan are fishy. And if those two do happen to be the last two Mafia members, look to FAW to save the day again. ;)

I remember this one. The interesting thing was that the time before, which was and still is the only other time I can recall you didn't cover for him and that time you were on different teams... Therefore I assumed you were mafia (I think we'd already got Zanic when I started going for you?).

Nope. Actually, you died and sicced Dooku on the two of us (I think you two were the Lovers or something). And part of your reasoning was that you had confronted me on AIM about being Mafia just before you wound up dead...which was a particularly frustrating argument since we as a Mafia had already decided to kill you before I had any idea you were suspicious of me. -_- That's just how the game goes sometimes, though.

lancer, whatever happened to Zanic? He was fun to play with.

He kinda lost interest after having a couple of lackluster games, unfortunately. I don't think he's even been on gtx0 in a long time.

May 21, 2013
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white lancer

Welcome, Black Yoshi, to the Afterlife!

May 21, 2013
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`Roxas`

Huh...so Speed was right after all.

Still suspicious of him and Apollo as possibly the last Mafia. Speed because of pretty much every single thing he's said this game and Apollo because of this:

especially when not only do Black Yoshi and chiefsonny have my suspicions, but also Kyon, Jo Nathan, and FAW.


She seems to be identifying everyone who was alive except herself and Speed as being suspicious, thereby identifying herself and Speed as Mafia.

May 21, 2013
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Black Yoshi

It couldn't... it couldn't be Speed AND chief, could it? Would they do that after MM9 and Yeano did as well?

May 21, 2013
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White Thunder

FAW please

I'm all but certain Speed is bait at this point and at this rate nobody's going to catch that.

May 21, 2013
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Pirate_Ninja

It couldn't... it couldn't be Speed AND chief, could it?


Have you forgotten about Chief's apology post in Day 3? The one where he said the only reason he did that was because he was only a Townie and thus able to do that without hurting the game?

May 21, 2013
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Black Yoshi

Go Mafia! 5-2. :P Don't give in! We just need a Town to lynch someone and then we can kill someone ><

No worries Feral, I won't say who the last two Mafia are. xD

May 22, 2013
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Castrael

She seems to be identifying everyone who was alive except herself and Speed as being suspicious, thereby identifying herself and Speed as Mafia.

And then she voted for Speed. XD She's pretty much 'survival at all costs' at this point--I'd be quite surprised if she was innocent by now.

Have you forgotten about Chief's apology post in Day 3? The one where he said the only reason he did that was because he was only a Townie and thus able to do that without hurting the game?

He could have been lying about that...but I would be surprised. It doesn't seem like chief's style and I think he was being honest with that post.

If I had to guess, it'd be Speed/Apollo or Jo/Apollo. It's hard to rule FAW or Kyon out completely just because they haven't given all that much to read, but the first three are actively suspicious while the only reason the other two would be suspicious to me would be relative quietness. Speed's been acting super suspicious over the past couple of day rounds, but it's possible that he's just a Townie who has made a couple of missteps. If Jo's Mafia, voting for Apollo last round was a good move (assuming she's Mafia) since it makes him look just a bit more innocent than Speed. That might just be enough to get him the win even if it meant sacrificing Apollo, and Speed made that job even easier by forcing the No Kill last round.

One thing that Speed's right about, though, is that a No Kill on this day round doesn't have many drawbacks. Last round, it was a disastrous move, but delaying one round can help narrow the possibilities by one player. Still, if he's going to continue to vote with Apollo, the rest of them may as well vote her out this round since they might not get another chance (especially with Kyon obstinately voting Speed).

May 22, 2013
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white lancer

It couldn't... it couldn't be Speed AND chief, could it? Would they do that after MM9 and Yeano did as well?


I don't think so, his absence was a bit off but their arguments looked genuine.

That said Speed must be Mafia... Or the worst townie ever... Suggesting a second No Kill at this stage in the game!

May 22, 2013
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Redack

Redack, mind getting on AIM? Need to ask you a couple things.

May 22, 2013
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`Roxas`

Damn it, if Speed is Mafia and they win...

May 22, 2013
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Black Yoshi

I have seen enough to reach my fully confident verdict on the remaining two mafia. Allow me to reintroduce my 1-10 mafia scale, edited so that only the surviving participants remain.

chiefsonny: ∞
Kyon: 2
Jo Nathan: 1
Female Alpha Wolf: 9.999999999
Apollo Justice: 0
Speed Bike Pro: √-1


I'd just like to point out that the Complex Numbers do not form an ordered field under any possible ordering, so in order to "rank" these participants on the mafia scale, we must use the modulus.

|√-1| = 1, so Speed is still ranking himself more suspicious than Apollo, by any logical standards.

May 22, 2013
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Yeano

I noticed that too, Yeano.

Damn it, if Speed is Mafia and they win...



May 22, 2013
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`Roxas`

I've been thinking that there's no way Speed could possibly be mafia, because any actual mafia member would not act so obviously guilty, but now I'm suspecting that it's his strategy. Make himself look as guilty as possible so people will think he's innocent. It's brilliant.

May 22, 2013
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The Bandit

The last two Mafia have a brilliant plan they hope to enact that may end the game next Night.

May 22, 2013
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`Roxas`

oy, doubt they'll even need a brilliant one from the way things are going. But color me intrigued~

On one hand, I feel like I should stop doing this because I'm gonna look like the Grand Dingus if I've been wrong...but I am gonna need so much popcorn when Speed sees the light.

May 22, 2013
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Pirate_Ninja

@Roxas, am on AIM now for the next... Unsure how long but if you happen to be around the be on AIM.

May 22, 2013
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Redack

So their plan apparently involves both of them voting for Chiefsonny using walls of text full of false logic, irrational claims and misinterpreted quotes to attempt to back up their votes.

I feel like it's somehow my fault that we're about to lose this thing -- after all, I had been itching to vote Speed out last Day round but never got around to it since a) he and Apollo voted at the last second and b) I was napping when the round ended and when I woke up we were already two hours or so into Night 6.

Damn my broken circadian rhythm...

May 22, 2013
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Black Yoshi

Only way the Town can win this game, as I see it, is if Speed is Mafia. If he's a Townie, they'll never get the votes to get Apollo out, because Speed + the two remaining Mafia = half the surviving players. It's hard to see him as innocent with how he's been playing unless he's just a Townie who is currently playing poorly. Hopefully the other players will jump in there and take Speed out, because him being Mafia's the only chance the Town has. Well, unless chief winds up being Mafia.

May 23, 2013
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white lancer

I'll have some words for Chief if this game ever ends...

May 23, 2013
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hezekiah

the death of hope is a tragic thing

if only I had lived...another day...I finally had the time...to press them...

*collapse*

May 23, 2013
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Pirate_Ninja

Excellent >:^]]]]

May 23, 2013
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MajorasMask9

Gonna start working on the finale thread.

May 23, 2013
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`Roxas`

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