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day 2 whoville is celebrating

Posted November 27, 2012 by Feral

As the residents of Christmas Village arived at the workshop, they heard White Thunder scream. Running to the side of the building, they found him laying in the snow. He was badly shaken, but very much alive. Laying behind him, axe in hand, was a furry green body. Before he could kill Thunder, somebody put an icicle through the back of White Lancer, AKA: The Grinch.

Xhin
chiefsonny
hezekiah
Helius
Trever Liengod
White Thunder
Roxas
White Lancer-The Grinch
CtR Black
Jo Nathan
The Bandit
MajorasMask9
Female Alpha Wolf
Frustro
Serpe
Castrael

Villagers-11
Humbugs-5

72 hours or 10 of the same vote.

There are 78 Replies


Well then... That was luck.

November 27, 2012
`Roxas`

For some reason I don't remember the Grinch story ending that way {:P} but at least I'm alive.

November 27, 2012
White Thunder

He was a mean one, Mr. Grinch.

November 27, 2012
Serpe

If I ever have children, that's how I'll tell the story to them.

November 27, 2012
Jo Nathan

Jim Carrey STILL SUCKS

November 27, 2012
The Bandit

:P Santa Clause is one of the best Christmas film, in my opinion.

But, I didn't see that one coming at all :D

I'm glad to be alive and well.

November 27, 2012
Castrael

Christmas

November 27, 2012
MajorasMask9

I think figuring out the word this round will be tougher than last.

November 27, 2012
`Roxas`

Well Jim Carrey is bleeding out through his icicle wound now so cheer up. Thank goodness we don't have to see things like this anymore:



November 27, 2012
Jo Nathan

I see absolutely nothing wrong with the above picture.

November 27, 2012
Serpe

That looks horrible.

We definitely need to be more careful now. with the words we say, etc.

November 27, 2012
Castrael

Well, I would still like to murder someone.

November 27, 2012
The Bandit

Jim Carey has been host killed to save him the torture of being trapped in the crazy village with you lunatics.

"P-A-R-T-why? 'Cause I gotta!"

November 27, 2012
Feral

Any reason for going after me, Bandit?

November 27, 2012
`Roxas`

Haha, @ Feral.

Jim Carey is pretty bad.

I'm seen a couple of his films.

Bandit just wants some action going on.

We still need to fin the humbugs though :P

November 27, 2012
Castrael

Shame on you, Jim Carrey. Showing up your wife like that. I love that man.

My optimism soars now~. The only downside is that, since the (green guy) and (debbie-downers) were unaware of each other, I think the tactic of looking back on posts relating to white lancer goes out the window.

... I will not be silenced again. (no)

November 27, 2012
Frustro

Glad I went back after Trev got shut up for the round and noticed the link between the two of you and Thunder. (hehe)

We know the night round ended fairly, meaning that everybody who has a special power (GoCF, Frosty, Santa, TT and CLW, Scrooge, etc) either used their power or chose not to by saying so.

chief is immune until we get the Humbugs. With quite a few people silent on their own last round, I'm still not sure who to go for, but with Frosty still in play we have to be careful. He/She is more of a hindrance to both sides, more so the town. Given that Frosty can only use his/her power twice before dying, they could either help the Town take out an additional two Humbugs, getting us to Scrooge quicker, or almost ensure a Humbug win with two wrong guesses (along with two Humbug kills).

November 27, 2012
`Roxas`

Hey. I like Jim Carey. Has no one seen Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind?!
And I must say that this post was almost epic.

November 27, 2012
Female Alpha Wolf

Um, did Roxas not vote for Castrael at all last round? I went back to start building my case and I can't find it. I know he changed it to Not Voting or No kill or whatever. I could have sworn he did. : /

November 27, 2012
The Bandit

Roxas wanted to vote for me, but he never did. he was just as suspicious as you lot were. :D

Yes, the humbugs are usually the quiet ones or the tricksters, right?

November 27, 2012
Castrael

Oh. Well. Um.

November 27, 2012
The Bandit

I stated that if I had to vote for somebody, based off of last round, it would be Cas. I never did, and instead put my option at "Not Voting."

Almost epic? Girl, it was epic when I walked in. {8D}

All joking aside, though, we need to start discussing who to vote for this round. We can afford a couple of off kills (assuming Frosty doesn't act). I highly, highly doubt all the Humbugs have spoken this game.

That takes us down to hezekiah, Serpe and CtR (unless I'm missing somebody). Out of those three, I feel most comfortable going after Serpe, based on the way that (she?) has played in the past. We can't just ignore the quiet players, but we also can't ignore the talkative ones (says the most talkative thus far).

November 27, 2012
`Roxas`

:P

It's been epic since I first came along.

From what I remember, hezekiah and CtR are the only ones who have yet to speak. Serpe has already introduced himself last night.

November 27, 2012
Castrael

We can't just ignore the quiet players, but we also can't ignore the talkative ones (says the most talkative thus far).

Like you? :P I say we vote for Roxas. ha. ha. just kidding, but seriously. Anyone can be a Humbug. I think Xhin might be a humbug. he hardly spoke

November 27, 2012
Castrael

Must have missed Serpe's post, I'll go back and check.

November 27, 2012
`Roxas`

Serpe only said "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MILK AND COOKIES." Odd, if ya ask me. Possible she (or he?) is a town-sided role, but also possible a humbug-sided role.

November 27, 2012
`Roxas`

Just a little Futurama reference, Roxas. X: Not a cause for concern.

November 27, 2012
Serpe

(shifty) I'll take yer word, for now.

November 27, 2012
`Roxas`

:D and there goes Serpe.

I think we should worry about hezekiah and CtR for now. And Xhin >.> just because. he can screw around with just about anyone.

November 27, 2012
Castrael

Serpe was making a reference to Fry from Futurama saying "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!" Even if it wasn't a reference, there's still virtually nothing suspicious about that anyway. I'm not defending Serpe's innocence in the slightest, but it was eating at my nerves seeing him getting accused based on that.

November 27, 2012
Frustro

Sorry for forgetting about the game over the break, we had a couple uncles in town. At least I didn't have a night action to neglect!

Definitely caught a break with the mafia offing the FBI-type role. Not thrilled about having a Voodoo-type role again, but it does seem to be a bit better balanced this time out.

November 27, 2012
hezekiah

I actually thought it gave the Mafia too much of an advantage. Not only would the Grinch be targeting the town which composes the majority of the players, but the Mafia would also be immune to his kills should one of them be targeted. The Grinch dying before he could do anything is the best thing that could have happened for the town. I consider it an early Christmas present - that Scrooge may not be such a bad guy after all. {:P}

November 27, 2012
Jo Nathan

@Tiny Tim and Cindy Lou Who, please see your thread for an important notice.

November 27, 2012
Feral

Humbugs or not, they'll come out. :D I say we take a good guess.

November 28, 2012
Castrael

Ironically, White Lancer was probably targeted due to his performance last game. If you play well, you're a threat. (facepalm)

November 28, 2012
Helius

I don't remember Lancer being a target at all though. o.O

November 28, 2012
Castrael

Guess I don't have anything to worry about.

It's likely that the mafia is more experienced players who would know that Lancer is a threat. If that's true, it's certainly doesn't exonerate Castrael, but I don't think she's mafia.

November 28, 2012
The Bandit

He means, the mafia wants to eliminate good players so that they're less likely to be discovered. Lancer is a good player, so they killed him.

November 28, 2012
The Bandit

After that bone head move I pulled last night, I was debating what to do.

1. Fake being silenced.

2. Fake being inactive.

But I instead decided to see how you townies liked the present I put under your tree.

If I pick anyone but lancer "aka The Grinch" old Ebenezer and his crew get 2 kills, but instead we loose a potential Ally.

Note to self: No more dumb moves.(facepalm)

November 28, 2012
chiefsonny
 

The best bet of the game is to try and stay alive. It doesn't really help others who are silent or active. >< I think talking more helps so that way we can figure what's going on. But, yeah, it's tricky. We need to relive Day one and find out who the humbugs were.

and this is my first game so I won't take any offense to that. :3

November 28, 2012
Castrael

I think

I think I'm going to vote for Helius.

I'm not overly suspicious of anyone but if I had to pick someone from the group to vote for it would probably be Helius. Or The Bandit? I can't give specific examples because it's just an intuition thing, so if anyone has any reasons to vote for someone else I'm open to change votes. Just feel like we might as well lynch someone tonight.

November 28, 2012
MajorasMask9

Uh... Majora... if you all you have is intuition? Why vote for me?

@Castrael, it was because he was a pivotal player last game that I think he got targeted this round.

November 28, 2012
Helius

@Helius: Oh okies. I didn't even realize until now.

I'd vote for CTR Black: My reason: He could be planning behind our backs as we speak. :P

what do you guys think?

November 28, 2012
Castrael

Because I just feel like we might as well lynch someone tonight and I'm not overly suspicious of anyone except for you (and maybe The Bandit).

I'm not saying we should all bandwagon on you, I just wanted to get a vote in. If anyone has any better ideas, I'll change it. But honestly so far we have no objective evidence (or credible subjective evidence) to go on, so it's a bit hard to pick someone that sticks out as being suspicious--I'm just picking who currently sticks out (IMO) as suspicious.

November 28, 2012
MajorasMask9

I don't think CtR has posted, and I think it's a really terrible idea to vote for someone just because they're inactive.

ANYWAYZ Helius did suggest a role claim. I hate that idea too, but I don't think it makes him guilty. : / I'll probably vote for Roxas again if nothing else comes up. I would like to kill someone, considering most of our roles are completely useless.

November 28, 2012
The Bandit

Like chief said though, someone could fake be inactive. that's why I suggested it.

What about Trever? He made a post about Scrooge that one time.

November 28, 2012
Castrael

Except our roles AREN'T useless, just restricted with what they can do.

Frosty gets two kills before sacrificing themselves.
Rudolph is a great role, assuming the person that has the role knows what to look for in replies to try and lock on to somebody.
CLW and TT know who each other are, so they are definitely the biggest advantage the town has if you think about it (unless neither of them receives an Elixir).
Santa is obviously a very good role.

November 28, 2012
`Roxas`

What about Trever? He made a post about Scrooge that one time.


I think everyone has said something about Scrooge... We all know that Chief is Scrooge.

Are you trying to play dumb with us...? (shifty)

And I'm not in favor of wasting a round on inactive people either, because they may pop back up and help us get the Humbugs (hike I kinda did in the game before last(hehe) ) Feral will do something against them, right?
Though I also don't really see a role claim helping us right now either.

As far as anyone being guilty in my eyes, as usual I'm clueless :/ The only people I can think of is Cas and Roxas but I don't really have anything to back me up... Yet!

November 28, 2012
Female Alpha Wolf

I hate to bring this up. But I don't see the name of

Ebenezer Scrooge on that list.

I'm a nice guy (NOT) I gave you guy's a nice present.

November 28, 2012
chiefsonny
 

The way my day has been going... might as well.

November 28, 2012
Helius

k

November 28, 2012
The Bandit

No, our roles are pretty useless. Santa isn't going to just hand out gifts and risk giving the mafia immortality. So, until he knows who is innocent he's useless. Obviously he can be powerful later on. The mafia will disguise their last posts, making Rudolph useless. Frosty is a one hit vigilante, and a vigilante is never very useful. The twins are useful only because they won't vote each other off.

So, yeah. I'd much rather have a doctor and a cop. : /

November 28, 2012
The Bandit

Some gifts can only be used on a certain day though, right? v.v

Also, we should really vote for something and I'm not voting for Helius just because.

I am worried about Roxas though. He could be just playing with us. Trying to get into our ideas and all :3

No hard feelings :P Of course

November 28, 2012
Castrael

A few notes:

1. Santa's gifts can be used by those who have them during any night round of their choice.

2. Inactive players will be dealt with as nessesary.

3. To the individual who requested to be added to the game midway through, I'm sorry, but that would be impossible to implement fairly. Not only would it be unfair to the other players, but your side would immidiatly be known via the ratio. I highly encourage you to register for the next game.

November 28, 2012
Feral

...and two people just got jinxed.

November 28, 2012
Feral

Eh. Not sold on Helius. But I guess we should lynch someone today.

November 28, 2012
White Thunder

Detective time yet again!

November 28, 2012
`Roxas`

Well we can eliminate Thunder and Roxas and myself as those who said the word, so it would have to be two among these players who said it:

Castrael
Helius
The Bandit
chiefsonny
Majora
Female Alpha Wolf

November 28, 2012
Jo Nathan

I know Feral can't be glued to the thread for all 86,400 seconds in a day, so I'm not sure how far back to go.

If we only go back two hours from when Feral posted, that would rule out Majora. And I guess it would rule out Helius too because I don't see anything Christmas-related in his last reply.

November 28, 2012
Jo Nathan

It's The Bandit and Cas. Look at their last replies before Feral posted.

November 28, 2012
`Roxas`

Buuuuuuuut I wouldn't hold a match up to a candle just yet. That's just at first glance. Might be better to investigate a bit more.

November 28, 2012
`Roxas`

gifts. and i feel like roxas is simply trying to distract us by talking about silence words, which dont affect the game that much. also he suggestd lyching inactives (the 2 of us) which has a higher chance of being fruitless than ful if u look at the ratio. even if we both were mafia, there are still 3 others out there where time would be better spent finding them then going on a gambit 4 inactives. this also makes me suspicious of cast

November 28, 2012
CtR Black

...and Silenced. lol

November 29, 2012
Feral

Losing Lancer was a major grace for the town but really unfortunate for him. Really, the Grinch role played just perfectly could amass you huge points. If one managed to get Cindy Lou the first night, and then you managed to get townies every night after that, you could easily get like 10 points in a single game.

Also, sorry about the general inactivity. For one, I was jinxed the other day, and two, college work is killing me right now. If I live long enough, I'll be much more active when my group projects are over with. :D

November 29, 2012
Trever Leingod

I kind of disagree with the silence words not affecting the game that much. But I will agree with you on the point about lynching inactive players most likely not giving any favorable results, seeing as we already know that everyone with a night action last night submitted their actions before the 24 hour limit.

Figuring out the silence word prevents future silencings. It may not be the biggest of deals right now, but remember that silenced people can't vote (or change their vote if they've voted), and thus is still relevant. They'll also be unable to defend themselves if arguments against them come up. If too many people aren't able to vote, the humbugs could easily swing the vote in their favor without looking overly suspicious using silencing.

November 29, 2012
MajorasMask9

If too many people aren't able to vote, the humbugs could easily swing the vote in their favor without looking overly suspicious using silencing.

This is true. It is why I'm abstaining from using words that are classified for this season. I only used words last round so we could figure out what word it was, but in general, I will not be stating such.

As far as my innocence, I am innocent, but I'm too lazy to prove it... and the only true way is death.

~Hamlet style~

November 29, 2012
Helius

Wait, let me get this straight...

Majora is voting for Helius because he just wants to vote for someone, and it was either Helius or The Bandit.

Helius votes for himself in response to this.

The Bandit, in turn, votes for Helius in response to that.

I'm not sure I want to vote off Helius based on that series of events. I think I would rather vote for Roxas since there seems to be a few suspicions surrounding him already, or The Bandit for being quick to jump on voting for Helius after seeing how Majora was deliberating between him and Helius.

I'm not very sold on the guilt of anyone, but I'm less sold on Helius' guilt than the other two players I mentioned. Because The Bandit seems to be silenced and can't respond in his defense, I'm leaning toward Roxas.

I won't object if people still want to off Inpatient Helius, but I won't cast my vote for him this round.

November 29, 2012
Jo Nathan

Not buying the Helius guilt story

November 29, 2012
Count Dooku

There never really was a "story" for Helius's guilt... I just said I was basing it on my own general suspicions, and even said I don't find him overly suspicious (just a bit moreso than others).

I'm not going to vote for Roxas, and I think it'd be a bad idea to lynch him this round. The idea that he's distracting the town by focusing on "silence words" isn't really a valid argument IMO, as pointing out the silence word does nothing but help the town and prevent future silencings. After the silence word is found, we move on. I'm pretty sure that everyone that isn't a humbug had the same initial reaction to look through the replies to see if they could find a connection once Feral announced people were silenced.

This on top of the fact that he had proven to have put some effort into figuring out the silence word in Day 1 makes me think he isn't very likely to be a humbug at the moment.

(I'm referring to how he found a word that was said by two players we thought were silenced, but it then turned out to be a coincidence. If he was a humbug, he would have known the word and who was silenced instantly. The fact that he even found a different word shows he put effort into finding it, despite his role. I just think it would be more likely for a villager to put that effort in considering a villager would *want* to know what the silence word is.)

November 29, 2012
MajorasMask9

I agree with Majora. Roxas is actually playing the game... Us figuring out the Silence words early on really helps us. Because it may even cost us a round if people just say the Silece words all willy nilly coughCTRcough and then evidence pops up in favor of the innocence of that person. (Though it only drops my suspicious for him just a little though {:P} )

I'm not really feeling the guilt radiating off of Helius either... So I'm still clueless as to who to vote for this round.

November 29, 2012
Female Alpha Wolf

As of now I see zero evidence against Helius. Not sure who I'll vote for yet but it won't be him.

November 29, 2012
White Thunder

Yeah, I am thinking I will go back and review the past two rounds. I'm sure there's something somewhere that sticks out.

November 29, 2012
Jo Nathan

I am innocent, but I'm too lazy to prove it


Well, if you're to lazy to prove you'er innocent, then what help are you to that old fat dude you work for.

November 29, 2012
chiefsonny
 

Hello, anyone seen Charlie Brown?

November 29, 2012
chiefsonny
 

How many times can I change my vote? Teddy changed it 4 times one game. Is that a record?

November 29, 2012
chiefsonny
 

For the record, the only reason I've kept my vote on Helius as of earlier today is because changing it at this point would give Roxas more votes. Seeing as I don't believe Roxas is guilty right now, I'd rather have Helius receive equal or more votes until we sort out who should be lynched.

We have about 6 hours left before the day ends, so if we do want to lynch someone, we should figure it out now. I've already said why I think Roxas shouldn't be lynched, and chief voting for him only makes me think Roxas is innocent even more than before, regardless of the intentions behind his vote.

November 29, 2012
MajorasMask9

There is no limit to vote changes.

Remember, if the round ends in a tie, nobody dies.

November 29, 2012
Feral

Eh I'm not sure that chief voting for Roxas makes him anymore innocent... Could be a trap. But out of Roxas and Helius, I think I'll go for Helius mostly because he isn't willing to prove his innocence with the votes piling up. So....

November 29, 2012
Female Alpha Wolf

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