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day 4 two steps back

Posted April 8, 2014 by white lancer

In the wake of the losses from the previous night, it was Count Dooku who came under the Town's scrutiny thanks to the Journalist's article the previous day round and chiefsonny's accusation that he was not the Nurse. One by one, the votes trickled in:

The Bandit
Bubba
chiefsonny
Jo Nathan
Lady Flare
Apollo Justice

The Town held their breath as the magical number of 6 was reached, wondering if they were about to witness another execution. And indeed, it wasn't long before the hooded figure made their awful presence known, as they strode forward out of the crowd bearing a wicked-looking axe. The condemned Dooku begged and pleaded for the Governor's mercy, but the Town's PA system was silent, and the Executioner carried out their grisly deed.

The Town shook their heads, thinking that an Execution meant that they had killed another of their own. But a thorough examination of the body revealed something curious: a sweet PI kit, complete with a pair of cool shades. It wasn't hard to deduce from this that Count Dooku was the Mafia Investigator.

1. The Bandit
2. `Roxas`
3. Speed Bike Pro - Townie
4. Black Yoshi
5. Jo Nathan
6. Kyon - Townie
7. MajorasMask9
8. Moonray - Serial Killer
9. Feral Wolf
10. Apollo Justice
11. EvilGuy0613
12. eXcavator
13. Lady Flare
14. Bubba
15. hezekiah - Thug
16. chiefsonny
17. Lightvayne
18. Count Dooku - Mafia Investigator
19. Marvalo - Townie
20. RockyT
21. Shadowwalked
22. Hindenburg
23. SD Yoshi - Townie
24. Pirate_Ninja - Gunsmith

24 hours or until all night actions are in.

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But a thorough examination of the body revealed something curious: a sweet PI kit, complete with a pair of cool shades.


Read that as Sweet Pie Kit. would not mind one of those.

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MajorasMask9

Despite a good try, Dooku seemed much more desperate toward the end there with his defence. Townies tend to give up earlier in the argument and accept their lynching.

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Bubba

I wouldn't use that against him really. At least, in the times when I'm a town-sided role and the mafia or town want to lynch me, I fight until the end in trying to prove my town-sidedness. I don't think I've ever been in a position where I've accepted a lynch, save times when I've been caught by an uncounterclaimed cop. I think most people wouldn't honestly!

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MajorasMask9

What's this aroma in the air? Is that ownage I smell...?

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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

Day 4:

Dooku's Application for Government Support: DENIED

So read the message from the Governor on the bulletin board when the Town woke up in the morning. Several of them nodded in satisfaction, while others yawned and went back to sleep...until someone shouted, "There's a body on the carousel!" And yes, this town does have its own carousel (but no roller coasters, unfortunately), because why not? Sure enough, the rest of the Town found the grisly sight: Lady Flare, the Townie, had gone out for a midnight ride, and there she had been found. The carousel pole went straight through her body--don't ask me how.

At the shout about the body, one member of the Town had rushed to the hospital to try to find something that could help. As they rummaged through the shelves frantically, they soon became aware of a constant drip...drip...drip noise. A thorough search of the bathroom revealed no leaky faucet, but upon exiting the bathroom the Townsperson happened to glance up...to see chiefsonny's decapitated head hanging from the ceiling fan, dripping blood on the floor. Once reported, the Town's authorities searched the rest of the hospital, and while they didn't find the rest of chief's body, they did find a hospital uniform with his name sewn into it. Chiefsonny was the Nurse.

7-4-2-1
72 hours or 9 votes for one option (5 for Executioner kill)

April 9, 2014
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white lancer

Also, I'll be checking the last couple of rounds for inactivity at the end of this day round. I really wouldn't want to Host Kill anyone at this point in the game, but...

April 9, 2014
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white lancer

How am I not dead? I've been inactive as Hell and am barely into this game.

I have to get caught up. I'll get back to you guys.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Reading through the last two days, two individuals jumped out at me due to the way they played the Dooku/Chief situation. I figured out that Chief was the Nurse long before he revealed his hoax. Seeing as how Bandit figured it out as fast as I did, yet never backed down from siding with him, I'm pretty sure he is innosent.

Also, for reasons I can't reveal, I am 100% sure Hindy is innosent and truly was silenced.

There was somthing odd about how Apollo held back so much without taking a strong stance, and only voted begruginly in the end. I find it very unlike her to get fooled so well. Not painting her guilty, though.

I'm mildly suspicious of Jo, first off. He was pretty set on Dooku's side for most of the round, before EXCLAIMING about understanding what Bandit realized and changing his vote. Jo is a very serious individual. While he does have his sense of humor, I have never seen him YELL before... and I hired and trained the guy on his forum. I just don't buy his sudden turn and think he may have been saving face when Dooku's fate was sealed.

I have a strong gut feeling that Black Yoshi is guilty. Can't really place it, but somthing about his playing bugged me from the start and just got stronger as I went. I think he is playing much more defensivly then usual.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

I don't think I've ever seen Cheifsonny fake a role claim in this game. Pretty good play by him to solidify that lynch.

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Bubba

<b>"There was somthing odd about how Apollo held back so much without taking a strong stance, and only voted begruginly in the end. I find it very unlike her to get fooled so well. "</b>
^This very much. While I know I'm somewhat new here, I did notice this a bit too. I also have to agree about Jo. I noticed this earlier on, but didn't say anything as I wanted to make sure before making any accusations. Now that I know that I'm not the only on thinking this, I would like to start off by voting for Apollo. I'm not going to be around much today so I'm gonna get my vote in now.
As for Black Yoshi, I haven't really been paying attention to him this game. I'll have to read back and see what I find.

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Lightvayne

asdf idiot above has no clue how to make those bold quote tags work -_-;

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Lightvayne

@Lightvayne: You got it almost right. Just use brackets instead of the greater than/less than signs.

Also:

He was pretty set on Dooku's side for most of the round, before EXCLAIMING about understanding what Bandit realized and changing his vote. Jo is a very serious individual. While he does have his sense of humor, I have never seen him YELL before


I HAVE YELLED BEFORE, both in and out of Mafia. This is nothing new. :/ I exclaimed because I realized The Bandit was right when he said it was very obvious and I felt silly for not seeing it until chief spelled it out for me.

At any rate, with the Serial Killer, Mafia night kill, possible lynching and the paranoid gun owner still around, I figure this is an opportune time to share my results as the Tracker before I die.

Night 0 - eXcavator - did not visit anyone
Night 1 - Speed Bike Pro [deceased] - did not visit anyone
Night 2 - (I didn't use my action this round)
Night 3 - The Bandit - did not visit anyone


It's even more embarrassing for me because Dooku said he visited me on Night 1. If he really were the nurse, my action would have failed, so this should have clued me in A LOT SOONER that Dooku was lying. I had forgotten that the Nurse role-blocks, so.... yeah. I'm dumb. sry

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Jo Nathan



There was somthing odd about how Apollo held back so much without taking a strong stance, and only voted begruginly in the end. I find it very unlike her to get fooled so well. Not painting her guilty, though.


It's normal for me to come in end-day round and become active then as opposed to the rest of the round - if you look through past games you'll see it. I don't really do it knowingly, especially this time since I had a ridiculously busy weekend (I posted on the site sparingly if at all??). And as far as the begrudging vote for Dooku went, I'm pretty sure I was the first person this game to voice suspicion of him at all during Day 2 (when Bubba seconded it), so I certainly wouldn't call my vote made in a "begrudging" manner - I was just afraid that Dooku's insistence on being the Nurse was actually him being the Nurse. I doubt myself a LOT when people false claim, because personally I find it to be incredibly risky, so I'm usually inclined to believe the speaker - like when Bandit claimed Watcher a few games ago.

^This very much [in response to Feral's tidbit about me]. While I know I'm somewhat new here, I did notice this a bit too.


Even regardless of how little you said about the vote, am I the only one who thinks voting so early in the round with the Executioner around (and the 5 vote threshold which is not a lot!!!) is a bad idea for a Townsmember?

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Apollo Justice

Meant to also quote that Lightvayne voted for me after saying that bit... but I figure you all can gather that.

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Apollo Justice

By the way, @ Mr/Miss Journalist, great job. If I'm correct, you get +1 point for leading the town to lynch Dooku.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

I have a strong gut feeling that Black Yoshi is guilty. Can't really place it, but somthing about his playing bugged me from the start and just got stronger as I went. I think he is playing much more defensivly then usual.


So what, just because I was on choir tour when we started and couldn't post as often as I usually do makes me guilty?

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Black Yoshi

Now that the Count Dooku and chiefsonny show has been canceled, things should be slightly less hectic.

Not sure who I want to vote for, so I won't vote for now. I'll have to look over things tonight or tomorrow (since I'll have the day off for my birthday).

I'm picking up vibes that I don't like off of a few people, but like I said, I'll address it at the appropriate time.

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`Roxas`

As the Town discussed recent events and decided what to do, one of them casually picked up a newspaper and started reading...when suddenly, they noticed that the Journalist had posted the following article:

"Black Yoshi stayed in on Night 2. He had no visitors.

Apollo Justice was seen leaving Lady Flare's house on Night 3. Tea party, perhaps?"

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white lancer

No question for me now.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Such hastiness would be silly if you want more discussion and an avoidance of an Executioner hit, as I literally just said in my previous post -_-

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Apollo Justice

Now would be the perfect time for the journalist to lie. He/She is coming off a Dooku lynch and Apollo already had some heat on her before the article. Trying to get some cheap points?

A good feature for future games might be a time stamp on the article. Or maybe Lancer could tell us when the journalist requested the article, before or after Apollo's name was thrown around.

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Bubba

Unless I'm missing something here, what reason would the Journalist need to lie for?

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Lightvayne

It's still possible that Apollo is the Watcher (unless I missed somebody claim it), but I do have high doubts about that. She was one of the names that went through my head earlier today. Even with all that, I will still abstain from voting

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`Roxas`

There was a time a few games back when The Bandit was a Journalist, told the truth for a couple of rounds to get people lynched, and then lied about his results to get someone lynched when in actuality he didn't have any legitimate information to share (the Journalist gets 1 point every time they influence the lynch, whether or not it's for good or bad intentions.)

There's also the possibility that the Journalist could be siding with the Mafia or Serial Killer (most likely mafia if either.) The Journalist can be a very flip-floppy role since they are third party.

I think a big point in favor of this idea is that there is a Paranoid Gun Owner in play. Targeting people at night is risky, but if the Journalist got in contact with Count Dooku before he was lynched it's possible he formed an alliance with the mafia. This way the Journalist wouldn't have to actually visit people at night, but could still post articles that could get people lynched, while still in the mafia's favor (note how the Journalist didn't post an article last round but did this round. If we mislynch now we probably won't have a good chance to turn things around.)

Even if Apollo did visit Lady Flare, there's always the possibility that she's the Watcher and visited the mafia's kill target (the Mafia has a Ninja, whose night actions can't be seen by any role.)

I do think we should definitely hear from more people before we vote, especially if only 5 votes are needed for an execution.

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MajorasMask9

I would venture to say it's more likely that Flare was the serial killer's target.

Also nobody has brought up the fact that this would be the second time the journalist allegedly visited Apollo this game. Maybe it really happened, but I can't be certain... why would the journalist decide to go back to Apollo a second time? How often does the journalist role do something like that?

Something about this doesn't sit well with me.

April 10, 2014
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Jo Nathan

Jo Nathan asked me to discuss ideas with him yesterday. I told him I'd rather wait until Day4 started before we discussed anything (simply because, in the unlikely event that he was mafia, I didn't want him to derive anything about my role). Despite my caution, I do think he's innocent. I really don't see him as mafia coming toward me- there's really no reason for him to single me out, and that kind of alliance is more likely to hurt him rather than me.

The Journalist going after her twice IS weird... However, if he was going to lie, why wouldn't he just pick someone he hadn't picked before? That's a pretty fucking big oversight.

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The Bandit

Not to mention the Journalist failed to mention who they watched on Night 2. In Day 2--the Journalist's first article--they mentioned that:

-Night 0: Apollo visited nobody.
-Night 1: Count Dooku left his house.

Despite no article in Day 3, the Journalist still should have gotten a result. But instead they claim that they watched Apollo on Night 3 and that she visited someone who died, but didn't mention that [some person] did or didn't leave their house on Night 3.

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MajorasMask9

I'm pretty sure I know who the Journalist is. I also have a feeling I know why they visited the same person twice, but can't say without them being outted. Right now, I have no reason not to trust them.

If Apollo is a town power role, she needs to reveal whatever results she has. Otherwise, I will continue to push for her death.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Yep, much as I am usually a bad judge of people, it just fits way to well to be wrong.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Actually, am I the only person who finds it suspicious that the Journalist didn't know who Count Dooku visited in Night 1 but somehow knows who Apollo visited in Night 3? I'm honestly questioning the credibility of the Journalist this round.

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MajorasMask9

...I wanna cry. There is always one little overlooked detail that winds up shattering my ttheories, no matter how sound.

Everything I discovered HAS to be incorrect because I forgot that a silenced power role can't access their thread.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

I'm pretty sure I know who the Journalist is. I also have a feeling I know why they visited the same person twice, but can't say without them being outted.

You seem to have a lot of knowledge right now. First you know Hidenburg is innocent (something I still HIGHLY doubt, but I'm willing to put it aside for this round), and now you know the Journalist isn't lying?

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The Bandit

lol jk

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The Bandit

Right now, it's important to remember that there's more than just two options. The Journalist could be lying and Apollo could still be guilty, or the Journalist could be telling the truth and Apollo is innocent.

I think it's a lot more useful to just examine whether Apollo is a good lynch target and leave the Journalist article to the side for right now.

Personally, the only suspicious thing I find about Apollo is that she's still alive. Usually the mafia would have killed her by now. I didn't notice any of the stuff that other people mentioned in her last reply, but that's just me.

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The Bandit

Lol I'm dum @ not noticing the Journalist said that Black Yoshi didn't visit anyone on Night 2. Disregard that part of my last posts.

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MajorasMask9

The Journalist going after her twice IS weird... However, if he was going to lie, why wouldn't he just pick someone he hadn't picked before? That's a pretty fucking big oversight.

The article says Apollo left Flare's house, while when Apollo was checked the first night her house was actually watched and she stayed in per the article. Unless I'm wrong and they both work the same way and the Journalist is just wording them differently.

there's always the possibility that she's the Watcher and visited the mafia's kill target

But Apollo can't be the Watcher, since she was already investigated on Night 0 and stayed in.

Asking White Lancer again if he can reveal at what time the Journalist put in his request for the article. It being before Feral's 2nd post could reveal a lot. I find it odd how the two people Feral singled out in his post were the two mentioned in the article.

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Bubba

Huh. I hadn't considered any of that. I'm really not on top of things right now. This is the first game I haven't gone back and reread previous threads. I think that explains pretty much everything Bubba, and I'm more than willing to just off Apollo. I don't see any reason to doubt the Journalist now.

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The Bandit

I'm not the Journalist, Bubba. I thought Hindenburg was(who else would call Apollo a "loser"?) until I realized that the fact the Journalist posted his first article on day 2 while Hindy was silenced, and not day 1 as I first thought, makes that impossible.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Since theoretically the Journalist articles should be posted instantly if I'm around, I don't see a problem with giving a timestamp. The article was posted Wednesday morning at 7:52 EST.

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white lancer

I haven't had any time and I'm not going to have any time until mid-afternoon tomorrow but as one may expect I have things to say so for the sake of no execution it'd be super sweet if we could at the very least hold out on lynching my butt for a day

*insert sailor moon picture here but can't literally because stinky mobile

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Apollo Justice

Is it true that a silenced player with a power role cannot post in their own thread? This had never occurred to me.

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Jo Nathan

To make a little sense out of the articles in question:

Apollo was visited by the journalist on Night One
Lady Flare was visited by the journalist on night two

The only thing Apollo has really said was avoid the executioner's limit. No don't vote for me or offering a reason why she'd be seen leaving LF's residence. No alternative has been given. There are still two full days left, so anything could happen, but I am weary.

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`Roxas`

Yeah, Jo. When you're Silenced, your role is changed to Silenced, so you can no longer access your normal threads.

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The Bandit

So wait...the Journalist said s/he saw Apollo visiting Flare last night, and then Flare winds up dead this morning. Only two reasons this is possible: either Apollo is a killing role (Mafia or Serial Killer) or she just happened to be there when someone else killed Flare.

Holding my vote for now, considering that the latter seems a bit more likely to me.

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Black Yoshi

I'm suspicious that Apollo apparently has a night role and is still untouched by either the Mafia or the serial killers and I kind of want to murder her... But at the same time, she is my mom... Hmm...

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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

I had a huge reply to this, and then I refreshed the page on accident and now it's dead so after I get over the pain of losing what I wrote, I'll put in my two cents.

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Shadowwalked

For the record, only Excavator, EvilGuy, and Rocky haven't said anything this round. I can't really speculate on which is silenced since I don't know their posting activiy and habits.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf



I legitimately have no excuse as to why I went to Lady Flare's house, because I didn't visit there. I could sit here crafting an elaborate response for "why I had a tea party with Lady Flare" (besides the obvious reasons that it would be totally kickass), but I didn't, and I have no idea why the Journalist is claiming it ¯\(o_O)/¯

.... except for the fact that they obviously aren't a fan of me this game. When they visited me Night 0, they called me a "loser"...

What a loser!




No, but I'm completely serious. The only conclusion I'm drawing is that the Journalist doesn't like me and for whatever reason is saying I visited Flare's house - obviously someone visited Flare's house on account of the fact that she's dead, but it just as easily could have been someone else's name thrown out there since it's, *ahem*, baloney that I visited her house.

Oh, and if you're going to ask why I didn't respond for so long, 1. I have not at all/barely been on my computer for almost two days now, 2. I've been busy with work, and 3. the truth is on my side (as corny as it sounds (:$)), so I wasn't particularly worried - it also drew out some discussion which is nice.

Also, the Mafia have a Ninja, which would mean that the Night-kill is undetectable, which would mean that if I actually were a killing role, I could only be the Serial Killer, unless the Mafia didn't use their Ninja role last night (which I guess is possible since some people have missed their night actions).

Also,

The only thing Apollo has really said was avoid the executioner's limit. No don't vote for me or offering a reason why she'd be seen leaving LF's residence. No alternative has been given. There are still two full days left, so anything could happen, but I am weary.


I said at least once or twice in this day thread alone that I wouldn't be available to give a substantial response until this afternoon. And suddenly you're coming out of the darkness to talk when you've been barely active before, so I don't really think it's fair for you to be calling me out on not offering a response immediately despite being quite inactive/quiet yourself until now, when a solid accusation is thrown out (by the Journalist against me). Strikes me as someone waiting for a solid opening.

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Apollo Justice

I'm suspicious that Apollo apparently has a night role and is still untouched by either the Mafia or the serial killers and I kind of want to murder her... But at the same time, she is my mom... Hmm...


That's what SDYoshi always said to me before he passed away... You two were the best pair of boys a momma could have asked for... (fedup)

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Apollo Justice

Fair enough.

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`Roxas`

Okay, now I'm not sure what to think. First I'm inclined to believe the Journalist article, now Apollo claims that she wasn't at Lady Flare's last night...had I cast a vote, I'd be repealing it right about now.

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Black Yoshi

I'll explain my vote when I get to the desktop.

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Bubba

I'm not buying it. No way the Journalist is lucky enough to guess which house would be targeted by a killer so as to place false blame. And before anybody says anything, I am not buying into the whole "Journalist-Mafia alliance" theory.

Second, I find it funny that Apollo is using the EXACT defense that Bandit happened to suggest. Isn't hard to see where Apollo took the idea from. If she turns out to be innosent, then we know we can't trust the Joutnalist, and they will be unable to get anymore points after this.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Second, I find it funny that Apollo is using the EXACT defense that Bandit happened to suggest. Isn't hard to see where Apollo took the idea from.


I just read through all of The Bandit's replies and I have literally no idea what you're referring to.

Also Feral, I don't think you were in the game where The Bandit was the Journalist and he both lied and told the truth about several things (the one I hosted), so it's not hard to see why the Journalist would lie... if they want to mix things up (for whatever reason), they will. It's literally the exact same thing being done the last time the Journalist was used.

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Apollo Justice

I'm not buying it. No way the Journalist is lucky enough to guess which house would be targeted by a killer so as to place false blame.


The Journalist wrote the article after everyone knew Flare was dead. So that point is void.

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Apollo Justice

I'm not buying it. No way the Journalist is lucky enough to guess which house would be targeted by a killer so as to place false blame. And before anybody says anything, I am not buying into the whole "Journalist-Mafia alliance" theory.


From my understanding of things, the Journalist would have HAD to have targeted Lady Flare in order to tell that Apollo was the one who visted her. If the Journalist visited Apollo, they only would have gotten the result that "Apollo left her house."

The Journalist doesn't need to tell the truth in their article. The argument you listed (that the Journalist would have had to be very lucky to target the person who died) does not have to be the case, because they could have targeted anyone and just pinned the blame on Apollo without having visited Lady Flare (as in, they saw Lady Flare and chiefsonny died, and simply said "Apollo visited Lady Flare" without having any legitimate proof of this.) It's actually much less likely for the Journalist to have legitimately investigated Lady Flare.

I'm getting very bad vibes from this and think it's entirely likely that the mafia teamed up with the Journalist. The mafia are low in numbers and the Journalist would have no reason to disagree with such a proposition if the two groups got in contact (though I'd think it would be more likely that the Journalist contacted them afia if this were the case.)

I don't really have any major suspicions of Hindenburg but I don't feel comfortable voting for Apollo right now.

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MajorasMask9

though I'd think it would be more likely that the Journalist contacted them afia if this were the case


.....

them afia

I don't know what to make of this, folks... I just don't know...

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Apollo Justice

I legitimately have no excuse as to why I went to Lady Flare's house, because I didn't visit there.

Care to explain where you went then?

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Lightvayne

For the record I'm not the silenced one nor am I inactive. I've been having some internet troubles lately so it's been hard to keep up.

I honestly don't know what to make out of all this. The fact
that Apollo was doing something last night does strike me as fishy and I'm not really buying her defense either. I want to lynch her but with the executioner still alive I don't want do so unless we're all certain.

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EvilGuy0613

5 more post appaered before I was finished posting. -_-

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EvilGuy0613

It took you 45 minutes to write your reply? You must be double-tasking.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned this yet or not, but as Apollo pointed out, she pretty much has to be the Serial Killer if her and the Journalist can both be believed... And, based on the Journalist's earlier article, that timeline fits pretty well. She wouldn't have been able to visit anyone when the Journalist mentioned her the first time as she would have just been an Admirer with Redack still alive, so she stayed indoors.

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The Bandit

Well, I guess the Journalist specifically said it was Night0, and very few roles can move around on Night0 anyway. So nevermind, that's not very damning. I got confused based on when the Journalist wrote his article. : /

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The Bandit

Still, we can at least garner something from it. Since Apollo stayed in on Night 0, that rules out Watcher, Tracker, Governor, and Silencer, all of whom can use night actions on Night 0 (lancer, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). Since the Journalist wrote about Apollo, and thought I've seen Journalists lie, I've never seen one write about him/herself, so if our Journalist is telling the truth, then Apollo cannot possibly be the Journalist. Logic therefore dictates that she must be either Mafia, Admirer, or Serial Killer, and since she was (supposedly) seen leaving Flare's house last night, that rules out Admirer (if the Journalist is telling the truth), leaving either Mafia or Serial Killer. Either way, she's a killing role of some kind. Therefore:

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Black Yoshi

There they are, the 5 votes.. ;~;

Hmmm.. Interesting plays this game, Mafia. I can't say it's been a pleasure, since a widdle innocent is about to die by your hands, but hey...

... what goes around, comes around, am I right? {;)}

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Apollo Justice

@Feral Wolf: Yeah I posting my reply on mobile while playing 360.

(Not sure how to quote yet.)

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EvilGuy0613

[quote]TEXT[/quote]

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Black Yoshi

Ehh.. I still feel very uneasy about this. This just screams "the Journalist is lying" to me, just like that last time with The Bandit, and I hated myself for trusting him when my gut was yelling at me telling me not to. And now that she has 5 votes the Executioner will likely kill her, unless she's mafia.

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MajorasMask9

The way I see it, if the Journalist is lying, they will unable to gain anymore points after this anyway. The'll get their point for Apollo, but afterwards, their powers become useless to them, since no one will trust a word they say in their article.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

The way I see it, if the Journalist is lying, they will unable to gain anymore points after this anyway. The'll get their point for Apollo, but afterwards, their powers become useless to them, since no one will trust a word they say in their article.


This exact argument was brought up last time when The Bandit was the Journalist. It was the only reason I trusted him, but he was more interested in getting the points while he could rather than being overly interested in the long term.

And with a PGO being in play it feels extremely likely to me that the Journalist could be lying. Why risk visiting Lady Flare when she could be the PGO? Why not just make up a report to get a free lynch while you're still alive and not risk dying from a PGO kill?

There's aren't hard reasons for the Journalist to lie but they're enough to make me nervous, especially if The Bandit is the Journalist again.

April 11, 2014
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MajorasMask9

Yeah, I agree with Feral. When I lied as Journalist, it was at a point in the game where it was pretty much guaranteed who would be lynched next, and so my plan was to just say "Lynch x" after I lied and collect the points anyway. With what? 4 or 5 mafia left and two serial killers, I don't think our current Journalist is at that point, so lying would be very bad for him.

April 11, 2014
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The Bandit

*crickets chirp*

April 11, 2014
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Apollo Justice



April 11, 2014
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Apollo Justice

{boo}

April 12, 2014
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Bubba

Either the Executioner hasn't acted or Lancer is busy...

April 12, 2014
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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

The round does not end instantly when the Executioner acts. It never has--the Town has always found out if they acted once the round ends normally.

April 12, 2014
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white lancer

Sorry for being inactive so far guys, school has been crazy the last week. I'm on break now though, give me some time to catch up and I'll be more active.

April 12, 2014
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eXcavator

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