Mafia

That is a really, really, really terrible block, Governor. Shame on you.

On an unrelated note, I know it's probably a pain in the ass, but it's so incredibly helpful when the hosts put the current ratio and the remaining roles in the threads. Like, really. We appreciate that. : /

It would appear that Apollo has a secret admirer... Do I hear the song of lovebirds...?

This is gonna split the town down the middle.

So who was against killing Apollo? Majora was...

Oh God, Apollo has got to be laughing right now.

Too bad we don't have enough active players to end the next Day round in under 24 hours.

I'm not afraid to restart the bandwagon.

Can't say I'm surprised. Rocky was always kinda of an inactive person, even on the other board.

The Townspeople are dropping like flies...not a good direction to be continuing on :<

Also, there is no voting right now Feral. It's still night.

Oh yeah, sorry!

I would like to share some information I got from a trusted resource.


This is information I got from the person claiming to be the Watcher. While I am pretty sure this is very accurate information. He decided to share this info with me in case he gets killed tonight, but doesn't want to out himself yet by chance he survives the night.

Do with this information as you will, but I think I know who I am voting for next round...

Well, that is wonderful news to hear. Now we know that Apollo is 100% guilty(Mafia/SK), seeing as she can't be the watcher.

Looks bad for Jo to, though possibly for different reasons.

So then, these results not only validate Jo's Tracker claim(see ya next game. 8.( ), but the Journalist as well, since the Watcher has no reason to lie. With the Tracker, Watcher, and Journalist all covered, Apollo is left only with a non-townie role, almost certainly the second Serial Killer.

It could also mean that he was contacted in private by someone that's not actually the Watcher. We already knew everything that the Watcher supposedly revealed to Lightvayne. Not saying it's fake because I'm leaning more toward believing it, but I just hope Lightvayne is a good judge of character right now ;). I trust u tho

Who be so cynical that they would lie to a new guy?

DIE MAFIA

Night has ended. Just waiting for Mayor Lancer to allow us out.

That thread title is great.

Alrighty, lets sum things up. There are 11 players left. 5 are town sided, 2 PRs and 3 townies.

3 are Mafia

2 are SK sided

Then there is the Journalist

Jo and Vayne are confirmed innosent(Vayne wouldn't have helped the Watcher if he wasn't town sided).

Apollo is confirmed guilty(she can deny it all she wants, but no jury would aquit her now).

Jo and the Watcher should both reveal their results for last night.

Remaining suspects are

Myself(to be fair, I'm not proven innosent)

Roxas

Yoshi

Majora(Top suspect for me)

EvilGuy

Excavator

Bubba

Hindenburg

It is well known that Apollo and Shadowwalked are caboose companions, so at least the save makes sense.

Can someone remind me, before we MURDER HER, how we know Apollo moved around at night, other than the Journalist (who can lie) and the Watcher's testimony (which may also be someone lying to the new guy) a few posts ago?

And plz don't suspect me for trying to defend apollo if she turns out to be a serial killer or mafia because i'm NOT OKAY

I'm still sticking to the facts

Why am I your top suspect Feral >:^[

For the record Lightvayne's claim earlier does not confirm he's not guilty. The results he posted were things we knew already from Jo Nathan and the Journalist. Lightvayne could have been tricked or lying about the results to drag out the Watcher, seeing as the Watcher is the only role that's not been claimed.

I'll admit it's very unlikely that Lightvayne is lying, but can we trust his source? Why would the Watcher tell Lightvayne their results of all people if the Watcher supposedly didn't watch Lightvayne? Why not reveal the information to the Tracker?

And I hope you don't think I'm being skeptical for the sole purpose of being a grumpy player that wants to keep people from being lynched for minor reasons but I'm just bringing up both sides of the argument. I feel like the worst lynches made in the game are the ones made rashly based on evidence that isn't entirely sound, because the other side of things are overlooked.

And I'll probably vote for Apollo later but I think we should hold off before we pile on votes. Jo Nathan, Watcher, and Journalist should be able to share new results.

People are so caught up on lynching me that they're not even examining what happened during the night round ???

The Bandit, a guilty party, is dead. That's new information. There's no new information surrounding me. Use the discussion time to your advantage.

Yeah, lynch me, whatever, but this is a game with 24 players and 5 guilty people left, meaning even if I am, there's still four left. So consider being tactical and let the day go on for the full 72 hours so you can get more information out of it than just "kill Apollo LOL"

Well, with the Executioner dead, we don't have to worry nearly as much about piling on votes, so...

My target did visit someone, but based on who died, I am pretty positive I've nailed down either the journalist or the watcher. To protect his identity from the Mafia, I feel I should keep the result to myself for the time being.

@Apollo: I'm going on the assumption that you're the current serial killer, in which case I want to thank you for ridding us of the executioner. It will certainly make things a bit easier going forward. It's almost a shame we have to lynch you... {:?}

Hehe, do you really think it's wise of you to vote against me, Black Yoshi?

You wouldn't want me to tell the town your role, after all, would you? That'd certainly be bad news for you. {:?}

.........................................????????

.........................?!?!?!?!?!?!?

The Bandit revelation has moved me from 90% sure to 99%.

Yeah, cause that sure as hell wasn't suspicious at all.

As for the information I posted, I had this well before the Journalist posted their info. I was only told to post it to help back up the story. So I 100% believe this resource. As for this night round, I'm waiting to hear more info and I'll keep everyone up to date.

...I also just kinda realized that this is almost making me look like the Journalist. I would like to confirm I am not for the record that I am not...

Well, it's not exactly like my goal is to evade suspicion. Unfortunately the Journalist has done more than a beautiful job of painting me in a beautifully false negative light ^_^;;

I mean, I'm going to be almost definitely lynched today regardless.

Yoshi's reaction is WAY more curious then Apollo's comment. Don't know what made him think Apollo could possibly know his role(He and Apollo would both have to be Mafia, with the Ninja inactive, in which case Apollo wouldn't threaten to throw him under the bus), but were he a town role, he'd have nothing to fear from any role reveal. The fact that he is so easily spooked from such an easy trap shows he is hiding somthing.

More info from the Watcher



Not really anything helpful as he could still be the Ninja...

Also yeah BlackYoshi, you kinda threw yourself under the bus on that one. You may want to at least make an attempt to explain yourself

The only thing that's going on is that Apollo is guilty and trying to pin that guilt on poor, innocent me.

Then why bother changing your vote? Why are you no longer voting for her? If you have nothing to hide, then maybe you should put your vote back

Was going to do it when I got home, so I could actually make it official (I'm on my phone right now).

Black Yoshi Changed his vote to Apollo Justice

I highly doubt you are innosent. If you are, you made a dumb, fatal mistake by allowing Apollo to manipulate you so easily. If you were townsided, Apollo's threat would have meant nothing to you and you woudn't have changed your vote.

My best theory is that Apollo is the Serial Killer. She made that comment out of desperation using somebody already suspected. She never expected you to be Mafia and actually respond. You acted hastily and gave yourself away, Mr. Mafia

Too late now! You can't save yourself by undoing your mistake! The mistake is already made!

Apollo, Yoshi, Bubba, EvilGuy, Excavator

Throwing him under the bus would mean we're on the same team, wouldn't it?

No, no, I wouldn't do that. Not to one of my own kin. (:$)

I was blackmailed.

Now, this has made me quite a bit more informed on certain matters, and made things easier to deduce. But you guys have been meanies so I don't think my little old heart can handle revealing the rest of my knowledge and thoughts. I already have 6 votes anyways and requested waiting the full 3 days, but I guess no one wants my cooperation.. Awwwwwh..

The Bandit being killed was a warning.

Black Yoshi being threatened is a step up from that.

NO ONE BLACKMAILS APOLLO JUSTICE >:^[

...now that I'm home, let's make this official.

Black mail

Black YOSHI

Yes, everything is starting to make sense now....

The Black Yoshi thing is odd. But let's just see Apollo's role before we go forward.

What the everloving fuck is going on here. First thing's first, goodbye you HARLOT.

Also, I'm pretty sure Black Yoshi is either possessed by an evil spirit or he's a bad guy, so...

I think it's safe to say that Apollo just confirmed that she's the Serial Killer with that post.

Could you elaborate on the "blackmailing" a little more? I know you don't necessarily want to help us, but at least, when did it start and what did you do? More specifically I'd like it if you could give insight on which kills were made by you and which were made by the mafia.

Also worth noting: EvilGuy and eXcavator are the only people who haven't spoken this round, meaning one of them is likely silenced. If either of them are the Admirer it's likely they won't be able to kill tonight.

Would like clarification from white lancer as well: If someone is silenced, since they're silenced the entire night, the silenced players are technically roleblocked, correct?

And please can we not get an eighth vote for Apollo just yet? Journalist has yet to post an article, and the silencing targets are still unknown. Apollo could also reveal information that could be used to incriminate other mafia members. If anything I'm more suspicious of the people who are voting for her because if she is turning on the mafia now of course the mafia would want her dead so she doesn't talk more.

Just slow things down a little... ok.................

I could do some explaining, Mr. Majora (:$) but I won't be by a computer until a bit later on, so if I get 8 votes I'm toast, and I'm also not revealing any information if everyone is going to be so damn hasty, I'm not saying anything {:?}

Sorry I said not saying anything twice I'M TYPING THIS WHILE WALKING TO GET DUNKIN DONUTS COFFEE OK WOULD A GUILTY PERSON EVER DO THAT

This will give us a bit of a buffer in case some wise guy comes in here to end the round early.

Sigh... I suppose... Let's hear what the hussy has to say...

Good evening, lovely Townspeople ^___^

Seeing as I will be dying today as it is, regardless of what I say, I believe now is a better time than any to make a confession.

As most of you know, I grew up as a young Chef, enjoying the good things in life simplistically with just a touch of cajun... I was that way until just a few weeks ago.

As I was cooking a chicken quesadilla with yellow rice, I looked out my window and I saw the figure of brilliance, magnificence, and beauty... He shone bright, like a ray of sacred light from the moon...

It was then that I knew who he was. Perhaps he never knew me, and he never knew my life's doings, but I admired him more than I'd ever admired anyone else, anything else in my young life.

Then, I was shoved into this small town of 24, and I saw him again... I glowed, I was glowing so hard it hurt - the man I had admired so deeply was standing right in my presence. Though we only had a brief encounter with everyone before we went to bed for our first Night, Night 0...

... I was startled awake by the sharpening of a knife. I got out of bed, wrapped in my Pokemon blankie and put on my slippers, and I saw him... I saw the man I so fondly admired sharpening a machete.

I thought... No, no.. He couldn't... be... ...

... could...

he...?

I meandered off back into bed, finding it difficult to fall back asleep (reprising my role as the Insomniac)

The next day when we all met, I saw everyone had a large prejudice against my hero. Thinking it was all just fun and games, I brushed it off and walked off to bed...

... but The Bandit clearly got to him first.

I was hurt, beyond imagination... I was broken, and I got to the point where I no longer thought life would be worth living. Tears streamed down my face as I headed back to my small cottage, but they were merely a fraction of the watery representation that my entire being was drowning in. But... there was something at my doorstep.

A machete... with a note...



I felt... relief. He knew. And it was time I avenged his death... I had to do it all, in his name.

That night, I decided to lay my revenge on my former Lover. Hehe, he didn't take so kindly when I shoved the machete through his heart... The one I used to hold close to my own.

... The next day, everything changed.

I received notice that I had been investigated by a Mister Count Dooku, and after only a few hours, I had already been found out. Needless to say, I was stuck between a rock and a hard place... the Mafia threatened to destroy me if I did anything, said anything, or killed anyone against their wishes. Hell, I had to seek approval from them before each of my night kills at the risk of being blown to smithereens. I had no leverage. I had nothing. All I wanted to do was avenge the person I had admired so much, but I couldn't even do that without having a knife to my throat...

So I killed SD Yoshi and Lady Flare, regretting every move, not even wanting them dead... It hurt so much as I saw them both scream in agony, but I had to... for myself and the one I lost...

I only knew one member of the Mafia for sure at the time, but it wasn't exactly difficult to guess the others. Over a few days, it became more than clear to me who was tying the metaphorical noose around my neck...

Man, it's a good thing I didn't listen anymore just as I'm hitting the dust - that Bandit really needed to go. I didn't even get a thank you - how rude! (shifty)

But... now is the time of my perish.

I'm the Serial Killer, and I know all of the remaining Mafia.

You are not lying, since Yoshi's guilt is crystal clear.

Maybe we can strike a deal, Pollo, out of respect for Moon. If we lynch Yoshi today, you have to kill one of the remaining Mafia tonight. Not like you owe them anything. That will show us you are on our side. If no Mafia dies tonight, you die. Simple.

To show my good faith...

But the Serial Killer is immune to night detection, meaning either Apollo or Lightvayne/the Journalist is lying. It's probably you, Apollo. {boo}

Me last night:



{:(}

Nope, I'm not immune to night detection. I also can be night killed. {:?}

OMG I'M SORRY JO NATHAN I DIDN'T MEAN IT I DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT PART OF YOUR REPLY PLS FORGIVE ME

And @Feral, I'd be more than happy to do that - but I have a hard time thinking it'll pan out how we hope. I'll likely be night-killed the coming night for striking back at the Mafia anyways, but it'd still let me get a kill in, I suppose.

No worries, Apollo, all is forgiven.

Except, you know, the innocent killings. Those will take slightly longer to forgive.

Oh gosh... The truth really will set me free... Thank you, kind ones... (:$)

also in true apollo justice tradition, die mafia

Hmmmmmm....... On one hand, Apollo needs to die at my feet like a worm before she can strike down any more townsfolk. On the other hand, much like the rabid, flea-bitten mongrel she is, she may turn and slay the Mafia. I don't know what to make of this...

...

The original Serial Killer(Moonray) was imune to detection. The Admirers turned SK are not.

You could always just name the remaining Mafia, Pollo. It would just leave the remaining Admirer, which shouldn't be to hard to deduce.

Wot @ all the vote switches

I'd still recommend against reaching the 8 vote mark because there's still a lot I want to look back on, especially regarding the Mafia/Serial Killer picks. But I find it a little discomforting that we're this close to ending the round immediately after the Serial Killer (who previously said she wasn't going to help the town) posted admitting to being the Serial Killer, but not giving the names of the rest of the mafia members.

And Feral's reply strikes me as very Admirer-like. I don't really get that vibe from the other people, but the way he talked seemed very not-townie like.

I'm not sure which way I'll be voting yet but I definitely want to do some math before voting, especially with the numbers as close as they are!

(cry)

after the Serial Killer (who previously said she wasn't going to help the town) posted admitting to being the Serial Killer, but not giving the names of the rest of the mafia members.

Would just like to emphasize that I'm not AGAINST this right now I just definitely don't think we should jump on it at a snap :). I'm still thinking it over, but I hope it's at least understandable why I'd be uneasy about it.

THAT is why I am so certain you are Guilty, Majora. The town has tons of angles to play and some very clear theories, yet you won't glance at them more then a second before concocting wild theories and delaying as much as possible. It's not so much that you look guilty as it is you seem detrmined to hold back the town.

I'm in no rush to end the round, but I'm certainly not afraid of an early end either. I have a good idea of things.

The town has two angles: kill Black Yoshi or kill Apollo. I'm not denying that, I'm saying not to make a snap judgement on it (we went from 6 votes for Apollo to 6 votes for Black Yoshi in about 10 minutes.)

I'm saying I think you're the Admirer for the way you worded it, not that I think it's a bad idea.

"Let's put our trust in Apollo and work with the serial killer to kill the town." You make it sound like killing Apollo isn't a valid strategy in this regard, and seemed much too willing to go along with it without even asking her for her input. Like you're against killing Apollo. That's what I want to express--that it seemed like something really shady just happened.

If you think any of this is unlike me you clearly forget what it's like to play mafia with me ;). I'm usually always coming up with wild conspiracy theories regardless of how likely they are. But I haven't come up with any wild theories this round, so I'm not sure what you're talking about?

In case you forgot, I started the bandwagon against Apollo yesterday. I started the re-bandwagon today.

If you don't kill me during the day round, I'll gladly kill another Mafia during the Night round. But that'd mean I have to be kept alive in the meantime. If you're not interested, that's fine, too.

But if what you say is true, you're dead tonight. Which means you're not killing anyone tonight. So this is a moot point.

Who has first priority?

@Feral: That was before she was confirmed Serial Killer

As in which night kill goes first, I should say.

...if I recall, the Serial Killer's action comes before the Mafia's, so if she is the Serial Killer, she'll get one more kill off before she dies. And then her Admirer will take over the next night-round.

That said, it is interesting that Apollo claims to know the whole of the remaining Mafia, yet she don't name any of them. For all we know, she could be one of them claiming Serial Killer with such an elaborate story that the whole Town believes you. For some reason, I'm hesitant. My reaction to her comment may have been suspicious -- it may even kill me -- but it certainly shouldn't immediately pin me down as Mafia. To my eye, and to the eyes of anyone here who has a modicum of common sense, Apollo has far more evidence against her than I do at this point.

My vote stands, even as I watch the Town Mortician prepping my coffin.

Black Yoshi, if you keep feigning innocence, I won't hesitate to reveal the remaining Mafia ^O^ I'm not naming *all* of them right this second otherwise, partially for leverage.

But hey, the risk is yours to take! I mean, your posse is the one who blackmailed me to begin with. I can't imagine it feels good to be on the other side of the coin.

On another note, I asked the host last night, and I'm pretty sure both kills will go through - even if I'm killed tonight, my kill should still be counted for.

Hmmm.. I guess feigning innocence is the wrong choice of phrasing... maybe "trying to get me lynched". Yes, much better. ^_^

Who said I was feigning innocence anymore? I realize that my ass has been handed to me on a silver platter and I won't hesitate to admit now that I'm guilty. The only thing I will keep to myself is exactly which role I am until you guys dig it out of my dead body.

...goddamn reverse psychology...from here to the end of the round, I go silent.

My biggest concern with going with Apollo is that if she indeed does know all of the mafia (and thus, the admirer does too) it puts them at a very large advantage. They can easily point lynches toward players who are mafia, and those players likely have some small evidence pointing toward them already.

But at the same time I think going with Black Yoshi will help the town more in the end. In this case, we're killing a mafioso in the day, we're killing Apollo at night, and we're killing another mafia member at night. There's really no other outcome. Black Yoshi, Apollo, and another mafia member will die if things go this way.

I looked back through the past rounds and IMO it makes sense that the "blackmail" that Apollo mentioned did go on. It would explain a lot of the problems I had with Dooku not dying in an earlier round. I didn't look into Lady Flare's death much yet but I figured I'd get this post in before you speed demons end the round.

That all said I think Feral is the Admirer. Rather than say "Apollo, tell us who the mafia are if you know who they are" or "We should kill Black Yoshi and let the mafia and serial killer kill each other" he said that we should "Work with Apollo in memory of Redack" or something like that and I strongly feel that points more toward him being the Admirer. Something to keep in mind in future rounds :). Not to mention he's been on my case this round for pointing out the possibility of him being the Admirer.

And we still haven't heard from eXcavator or EvilGuy, but apparently Feral doesn't want us to know who's silenced... (cry)

IF I KNEW YOU WERE GOING TO VOTE FOR YOURSELF BLACK YOSHI I WOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT NOW SHIT

Oh he only has 7 votes now anyway (phew)

DIDN'T MEAN TO CHANGE IT THOUGH I SWEAR.

Lol, won't hold that against you, Majora.

Pretty sure EvilGuy is Silenced. I'm leaning more toward Excavator being Mafia. That's just thinking, though. Nothing concrete there.

IDK. Apollo is playing at an odd angle here. If she's telling the truth, then she surely realizes that she's most likely not making it to the next round alive, unless this is some elaborate ruse by the Mafia. So why does she need "leverage" and why isn't she just telling us?

Have you truly not done enough damage to our town, you sick, twisted Jezebel?

And round's end