Mafia

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I KNEW IT

I knew it.

HOLY CRAP

Oh, man, I am so stoked right now! That couldn't have gone better. And wow, we were *this* close to utter disaster--MM9 and Yeano playing against each other was brilliant. I wasn't even really looking at MM9 all that hard because I was so focused on Yeano.

Oh, and since the Mafia know this by now anyway, I may as well come out and say I'm the Vigilante. I think I've done my part this game. :D Guess I'm going to die tonight. I'm taking off very soon, but if the round is still going when I get back I'll post any thoughts that I have.

And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling vigilantes...

See you soon white lancer. Congrats on making it to Day 4.

:(

Thank you, Majora. A game well played, for sure--there were only a couple of things that felt a little off about you (stealing mah arguments >:-{ and not pulling the trigger with voting Yeano), but I don't think I would have caught you even if I had survived. You and Yeano going against each other was amazing.

So, uh...wanna tell us if Feral was the Sensor? ;)

If The Bandit was the cop, then Feral was the Sensor.

MM

YOU DOG, YOU

Whoa, didn't see that coming...

Thinking about it...yeah, the Sensor is almost certainly dead. MM9 was willing to toss his vote in with a very small pool of voters against CtR last round, when he really didn't need to.

So yeah. After tonight, I think it'll be safe to say it'll just be a ton of Townies vs. the last two Mafia.

Guys hurry up and vote so white lancer can stop theorizing he's too on the right track!

Me either. But it doesn't surprise me. He knows how to play a role.

Good game as usual MM9.

Is anyone else not surprised they both were Mafia? This is very similar to the strategy Majora used a few games back.

I see chief preemptively answered my question... {:P}

That's 8 votes out of 12. Night 5 plz.

According to what `Roxas` posted in the narrative at the beginning of Day 4 we need 9 votes.

Oh, I forgot about that.... s0z

G-guys... Just end it... I can't go on...

good to know I can trust myself sometimes <3

No! It's a trick!

It was me! I visited him disguised as MajorasMask9 trying to prove his innocence but everything went wrong because... because...

We're lovers!

....

I didn't get my fill of soap operas today...

Last words, real quick: just because someone has 'led a charge' against a Mafia member, DON'T trust them completely. This Mafia has already shown a tendancy towards going for their own.

Guys hurry up and vote so white lancer can stop theorizing he's too on the right track!

I like how y'all listened to MM9's advice on this one. {:P} I was hoping to get back in time to post a detailed account of my theories, but twas not to be.

Perfect timing, old sport.

I'd like to take the stage first by officially announcing my suspicions of one Redack.

This vote is subject to change, but I think this serves our humble town best. It's time you answered for your crimes, sir... if I can even call you that.

First, I'd like to present the curious case of our loved but not forgotten sensor, Feral.

Even though I tried to present a case in the early goings of this game that Feral was indeed the sensor, it was based more on my gut feelings than actual deduction. After all, this was the only quote said Day 1 that could have possibly indicated Feral's true role:



And even then, using that to ascertain Feral's role was improbable at best. So how in the gosh darn diddly heck did MajorasMask9 know to assassinate him? Guessing his role after one day based on that meager quote alone would have been reckless and foolish at best. This is where Redack enters the picture.

Redack has played outside the boundaries of the game much more so than he has played within them. Most of his interactions with other participants occurs outside of the game and his in-game activity has tailed off as a result. He had 5 posts in Day 1, 4 posts in Day 2, 3 posts in Day 3, and 0 in Day 4 (which was to be somewhat expected since Day 4 was a kill assassin day). Regardless, he posts less and less as he interrogates people more and more. The purpose of this is mostly to point out that Redack does most of his work where the public eye cannot see.

To further add to the above point, Redack's activity across the site is well documented. Yet, he still does not post often in the game threads. For some reason or another, he is constantly active on the site but refuses to contribute very often to Mafia. I'll leave that much open to your interpretation.

Now, to trace this back to Feral. Feral was ASSASSINATED, ladies and gentlemen. That's right, killed in cold blood by the devious MajorasMask9 before he could do any sensing. This is the point where I suspect extreme foul play outside of the game. Someway, somehow, Feral's role was GIVEN to MajorasMask9 on a SILVER PLATTER. It was not merely guessed, no... It goes much deeper than that... And this is the case I make for you on this lovely afternoon: Redack was the medium through which Feral's role was given to MM9.

Redack went to Feral and asked him his role in private. Knowing no better, Feral complied, thinking that Redack was a townie looking out for his best interests. But do you honestly believe someone who said the following:



... to be innocent after all of the shady back-alley tampering they have done?

Our beloved sensor was offered up like a sacrificial lamb to be cut down and slaughtered like a pig... and it was Redack's doing.

Safe to say after Majora's foible, Lancer's death was all but inevitable. It was far more likely for the Mafia to target Lancer as a Townie, considering there are still eight left -- plenty of room for the Mafia to hide yet.

I think Speed needs a bit more in-depth investigation. His absolutely certainty last round that Feral was the Sensor, then claim that that was gathered solely from reading the thread up to that point, had me stepping back a bit in surprise, quite honestly. And then, later on in the round, he said



...and then even later, he said



He was trying to swing the vote off of Yeano (a Mafia) and onto CtR (a Townie). Sure, I was suspicious of CtR, but Speed basically telling the whole town to vote off one of our own is pretty corrupt in my book.

@Speed

Nope, you're just going for me because I accused Apollo of being Mafia {;)} but I don't think you yourself are Mafia, even after this most hurtful betrayal.

Although I do agree that Feral was probably the sensor and I have suspected that the Mafia likely knew is role with certainty somehow (he likely trusted one of them with that information).

Black Yoshi, I understand why you might think Speed is in the Mafia, but I am nearly certain that Speed is just a Townie. I also think you're a bit fickle and erratic when it comes to voting for people.

First, you indicated Redack. You also indicated chiefsonny, but the more quotes, the more confusing (for me).

Long story short, some things Redack said last round seem off, now that my mind is in a better state.


The first thing he said was this:

Redack: Redack is harmless... Please don't kill Redack

A few dozen posts later, he said something to this effect:

Redack: @Castrael:

What role did you get?


Why would he contradict himself? Of course, one or the other or both of these posts could be just a joke, but there's always the chance that he could be Mafia.

… And then everyone questioned Black Yoshi and were thrown off by his.. not very contradictory findings.

That said, the reason I thought he was contradicting himself was that asking someone about their role seems like something the Assassin would do -- and come to think of it, I doubt that, even jokingly, Redack would be that daft as to practically give himself away. My suspucions are waning fast.

Okay, then Black Yoshi moves on to another suspect, CtR Black.

Anyway, now that you mention it, Majora, CtR has been rather quiet this game -- perhaps too quiet. He's usually a quiet player to begin with, but when he's Town-sided at least he makes an effort to contribute. When he's Mafia, he'll sometimes go for a day-round or two without posting a damned thing. He would be a damned good target for Sensor results.

… Then, Castrael mentioned that Redack has been active on GTx0, but not in Mafia, and BY says:

@Cas: Huh...that's not like Redack at all. If he were busy IRL, he wouldn't be around the site at all, but for him to be active in JS but not here...

Need I mention that he even VOTED for CtR in Day 2 (changed it to Castrael after), despite using this as ammo against Speed Bike Pro?

I still feel like CtR has been playing too under-the-radar even for him, and usually that only happens when he's Mafia.

My purile mind sees this as a backdoor claim of Mafia -- firstly because he's apologizing to Castrael about not taking the fall, and secondly because he's certain he'll die this round (if that's what "glob world" actually means).

For now, though, CtR has my highest suspicion.

Hmmm...some of the things Speed has said in this round especially have raised some red flags with me. However, CtR is probably the best option. His playing style this game seems to scream Mafia. Majora and lancer claimed last round that they could not get a good read off of CtR since he hasn't posted all that much, but I feel that it's because of his inactivity, and because of what he's said when he has posted, that he is so suspicious.

I don't see why he'd accuse Speed of being in Mafia almost solely because Speed thought CtR was in Mafia. Black Yoshi was even MORE accusatory towards CtR than anyone else was. He was the one that planted the seed in my head that it could be CtR, which is why I voted for him to be lynched. I'm sure Speed felt similarly.

What I'm trying to say, Black Yoshi, is that you can't seem to make up your mind. So, I find it hard to truly follow your leads when you've accused so many people at this point.

I also find it a little strange that you never really spoke out against Yeano or MM throughout their shenanigans. I'm not saying I think you're Mafia, but I'm also not saying I trust what you say.

Silly Black Yoshi... You do not want to start with me. (evil)



First of all, I'd like to point out that I originally voted for Yeano. Obviously, that does not guarantee anything in this game which has involved an intense facade of infighting amongst MM9 and Yeano but I went with my gut and wanted to take out Yeano. However, I felt that was a bit ambitious and began to doubt myself especially since I found MM9 equally as suspicious.

I'd like to call attention to this quote from myself during the start of Day 3, before all of this hullabaloo started:



As we all know, CtR turned out to be a townie but both he and Yeano were chief candidates for mafia roles in my mind long before CtR's or Yeano's death. At the time, I was also suspicious of MM9 but withdrew that from posting publicly because I didn't want the two to know that someone might have been onto their track.



That was posted around midnight, roughly 10 hours before the end of the round. The human body needs at least 8 hours of sleep and since I'm currently on summer break, that means I tend to get anywhere between 8-10 hours of sleep. I had no intentions of going out of my way to post again in the thread before I missed the deadline, so I voted for Yeano in the case that I did miss it. Unfortunately, I came back in time to change my vote for CtR Black which is something I regret doing. I explained myself in the Day 3 thread, however.



I got wide eyed at the prospect of breaking up the MM9/Yeano love affair but realized that I was lacking in evidence to accomplish such a feat... so I went back to the person who I thought was a "safe" vote and that was CtR Black. Besides, I thought it was a good idea to take the attention away from them so that they'd have more time to do their thing and as we know, more time in Mafia = more time to screw up. But it was essentially meaningless since CtR Black ended up being a townie and white lancer effectively ended it himself. RIP, white lancer.



That would be a mighty fine point if I knew then that CtR Black was a townie or that Yeano was mafia. All I had were suspicions, and my suspicion of CtR Black was ultimately incorrect.

Since you seem to have forgotten, it would also be worth noting that in Day 2, I tried to present my case for CtR Black while a vote was building for Castrael who would turn out to be the janitor. In both cases, I have just had shit luck. I've never played a mafia role before but it seems like attempting to swing votes to other people is a very elementary and transparent defense tactic. I was merely trying to call attention to the person who stood out the most to me.



I'm curious as to what is guilty about this?



Sure, I welcome whatever must be done to clarify my innocence but I feel I have done an adequate job of addressing your points about me.

Oh, just to clarify, everything I put in bold was stuff Black Yoshi said. I don't know how to do the quote box text stuff. (cry)

I wish it could be dismissed so simply, old chap... But alas, it served to catch my attention and I have researched you since then. Accusing Apollo of being mafia when I feel she has done nothing to indicate any mafia allegiances is somewhat suspicious in its own right, but I have been trying to piece together your behavior ever since then and you have your fair share of good and bad... But I feel the bad deserves more attention called to it than the good.

Apollo, in order to do a quote, you can do this:

(quote)put quoted text here(/quote)

But replace the () with square brackets []




I'm hesitant to use that as evidence against Redack, only because a lot of people (it seems mostly everyone except my antisocial self) extend their playing to areas outside of GT. You people and your Skype and Yahoo tomfoolery... (shifty)

Granted, I feel there are other reasons to suspect Redack, but there are reasons not to. I'm not ready to cast a vote for anyone just yet, not without going back to review the previous rounds more closely. With the revelation that Majora and Yeano were both Mafia, I feel there is some insight to be gained.

[quote]TEST[/quote]

If I did that right it should show you have to do quotes properly.

That certainly wasn't the only reason I'm wary of Speed -- I've found him a mite suspicious from Day 1, but as the game has gone by, he has seemed to slip up more and more, and some of his later posts just don't seem to make sense to me.



Because both of them are really good players and both of them are almost impossible to read unless you're Redack? My purile mind just saw it as two Townies accusing one another, and ignored it since at the time I was just damned sure CtR was Mafia.

but as the game has gone by, he has seemed to slip up more and more, and some of his later posts just don't seem to make sense to me.

Would you care to quote the posts in question? If they are any of the ones you've already quoted, I have addressed those already.

This is honestly a waste of time but I don't mind proving my innocence.

Aside from acusing me at this stage in the game, I've not found Speed too suspicious.

I also think basing anything on the Majora VS Yeano exchange will produce flawed results. They were really convincing. Majora was a bit overboard, but I already suspect him after he tried to push suspicion on me based on something I said on AIM. He claimed to me it was accidental as he forgot my reason, but I wasn't buying that! Probably was an accident to be fair but it worked out in the end.

Yeano by contrast I wasn't sure on. I had entertained the theory they were both mafia, but it was fairly low on my list. I felt it was more likely Majora was looking to get an innocent lynched.

Given how close we are to rooting out the final mafia members and we're at day 5 I have to question if the sensor is still alive. My gut (witch doctors) says it was likely Feral and that he falsely trusted a mafia member with his role... However if they're still out there then it's probably getting time to give us some info.

I believe Jo said his trip had ended so it'll be interesting to hear from him a little more.

I thought this was an interesting line...



This catches my attention because this was one of the few times, if not the only time when The Bandit actually defended someone. I'm led to believe that he investigated Redack and received an innocent verdict. At the time this was posted, he would have had the chance to investigate two people and Redack seems to be the type to naturally draw attention from power roles (much like MajorasMask9 in the short-lived 17.1), so I am thinking it's relatively likely that The Bandit had staked out Redack and this post was his way of trying to leak the verdict. This eliminates the last mafioso as a role possibility... but I am now in the camp for Redack being the godfather.

While MM9 and Yeano were content with arguing amongst each other in their attempt to appear guilty to the town, the godfather too needs his own means of slipping through the cracks of the town's attention. What better way than offering up his own janitor as a tasty morsel for the town?

Let's look at a brief recap of a few days/nights:

Night 1 ... Trever (Governor)/Feral (Sensor) die, hezekiah (Mafioso) KBV [killed by vigilante]

Day 2 ... Redack is the second person to vote for Castrael (Janitor)

Day 2 ... Castrael (Janitor) lynched, *Cop/Vigilante/Godfather/Assassin/Mafioso x2 remain*

Night 2 ... Hindenburg (Townie)/Count Dooku (Townie) die, no vigilante kills

Day 3 ... CtR Black (Townie) lynched

Night 3 ... The Bandit (Cop) dies, Yeano (Mafioso) KBV, assassin fails

Day 4 ... MajorasMask9 (Assassin) lynched

I surrounded the remaining power roles by Night 2 with asterisks and italicized the vigilante kills because these are the things I want you to notice. After the wildly successful night that the mafia enjoyed during Night 1, Castrael (Janitor) was rendered relatively expendable. With the death of the governor and after concealing Feral's (Sensor) identity, that left just The Bandit (Cop) and white lancer (Assassin) as the town's power roles.

This is why the aforementioned events are relevant... With the way white lancer had been playing, concealing the Assassin's identity would have been close to meaningless. The Janitor serves the purpose of hiding the deaths of power roles so that the town is none the wiser if it loses its sensor, cop, assassin, etc. But in the case of this game, I believe we would have noticed the loss of our vigilante regardless of whether or not he was concealed because he killed someone 2 out of his 3 possible nights. If we went 2 or god forbid 3 days without a vigilante kill, I think it's safe to assume we would have all suspected something.

So with the Governor dead, the Sensor already concealed, and the Assassin being relatively invulnerable to the Janitor, that just leaves the Cop. Assuming that Redack killed his own Janitor, that would mean the mafia would have needed to eliminate the Cop as soon as possible. Fortunately for them, it only took them one more day round to kill the Cop. Essentially, Redack sacrificed the Janitor who became more of a luxury than anything for the sake of making himself appear innocent while hardly harming his own faction. Poor Castrael just had to pay the price.

To put this all in a nutshell, Redack is the godfather and killed his own Janitor.

hey

Would you care to explain why you voted that way, Supermod Kyon, aka my blood brother who has betrayed me and I am deeply hurt by this?

If the Sensor was dead, wouldn't it become unlocked and grey instead of staying locked at the top of the page and blue like the Vigilante role and all the other roles?

Because the host isn't allowed to confirm or deny Feral's role. If Feral was the sensor, then removing the sensor role would be confirmation.

I don't think Speed should be getting lynched. Feral was most likely the sensor (I'd think the real one would have come forward by now if this were not the case), and Speed was the one to suggest this early in the game. It would not make any sense for Speed to do this if he were Mafia.

That being said, I too would like to hear from Kyon regarding his vote.

Still on the fence with Redack. There just seems to be a whole bunch of redack flags with him this game, but I have a history of interpreting things as red flags when they aren't red flags... {:?}

In fact, he was the only one to suggest this when the whole town was almost certain Feral was a Townie, and everyone jumped on his boat. How would he have known Feral was the Sensor...unless he's Mafia?

How would he have known Feral was the Sensor...unless he's Mafia?

I feel like I've already explained this enough times that doing so now is a waste of several minutes that are turning out to be relatively valuable since there is a good portion of players who haven't done much at all all game.

I don't know that Feral was the sensor. No one knows that Feral was the sensor. But I deduced in the early going that Feral was the sensor based off of a hunch, not a fact. In my mind, he could have either been the cop or the sensor and I went with my hunch that he was the sensor, which we all know is likely true but not entirely because there is still a possibility that Feral was a townie and chosen by the janitor to fool the town.

You see, my point here is that I never knew that Feral was the sensor. Instead, I just assumed and have been operating under the assumption all game that he was. And as more and more events have unfolded to add to the likelihood that Feral was indeed the sensor, I am looking increasingly correct and you are seeming increasingly shady, Mr. Yoshi.

We've all been operating under the assumption that Feral was the Sensor, and you were the one who started that trend. Come to think of it, I'm inclined to believe he was, considering that the Mafia had both Yeano and Majora, both of whom are among the best players we have (not that the rest of y'all are no good, they're just exceptional) and among the best at reading people. I could see how they arrived to that conclusion based on Feral's posts in Round 1.

If it makes you happy...

That's right his body was hidden. I forgot {:P}
(where's the anime smiley face with a sweat mark when you need it)

I still think he probably told a mafia member his role. Even if they were confident from a guess, it would've been far too risky to assassinate him based on that (and as I recall we lost another power role on the same night so they'd had to have known one of them)... It seems likely either Trever or Feral trusted someone in the mafia with their role. Given who has been in the mafia so far it's no surprise.

Since I'm surprised to have survived this long, I'm just going to assume this is my final day alive. I suspect Apollo therefore my vote goes for Apollo.

She said something in one of the earlier rounds. Like "All hez said was Hi" and it hasn't sat well with me since because he never even said Hi and it made me wonder if all he'd said in the mafia thread was Hi... But she may also have just been 'summing up' his contribution in the main thread. I don't know, but I've not been able to shake my suspicion since it formed and I'd rather vote on it while I still can {:P}

A true case of grasping at straws if I've ever done seen it. Let me quote hezekiah's one and only post from Day 1:



I don't mean to speak for Apollo and please forgive me if I'm incorrect about something but it seems like she was just paraphrasing hezekiah's reply. Of course he didn't say just "Hi" but what he did say had so little substance that it was roughly equivalent to just saying hi, which is what I believe Apollo's point was.

This was Apollo's exact quote:



It's not like she went back over the previous threads to research his exact post. She had a vague memory of a vague post by a vague guy who died. I don't see the problem here.

I'd like to address this silly notion that I am guilty by virtue of "deflecting". I have already discussed both the case of Castrael and the case of CtR Black from this game in great detail and since Supermod Kyon persists with his vote, I am led to believe that he is either too close-minded to reasoning or too lazy to listen to arguments.

Without further ado, I'd like to bring your attention to the second day of game 17.1.

Immediately as soon as the day started, Count Dooku (Townie) accused Helius (Godfather) of being a mafia-based role, which turned out to be true but obviously we did not know that at the time. Anyways, Dooku remained the only one with a vote for Helius for about half of the day when suddenly several other people voted for Helius as well, including Helius himself. He basically surrendered his life with only 3 votes going against him prior to self-voting. After he voted for himself, the floodgates opened and three more people piled on which essentially sealed his fate. This is where I enter the picture with this quote:



I did not vote, either. Now, this seems an awful lot like that icky "deflecting" word that keeps getting thrown around. Rather than immediately jumping on the lynch bandwagon, I questioned Helius' curious behavior because there is one goal in Mafia, and that is to survive. Several replies later, I posted this:



In hindsight, does it perhaps look as if I was hesitant to kill him like an amateurish co-mafia member? I suppose so... but here's where the problem lies: I wasn't mafia. In case you've forgotten, the mafia in 17.1 were Helius, chiefsonny, Kyon, and The Bandit. Hmm, this is odd, I don't see Speed Bike Pro in there... Maybe if I try rearranging a few letters, or... Hmm, nope. I wasn't mafia then and I'm not mafia now.

Day 2, game 17.2:



At the time of this vote, Castrael only had 3 votes and no particular person was a sure thing for lynching yet. I merely posted my thoughts and voted for CtR Black while implying that my vote was still subject to change. And look at that... it did change:



The fact that I changed my vote does not necessarily indicate that I am innocent. No, I'd just like for you to compare this to the Helius case from game 17.1... awfully similar, eh? And ya wanna know the weirdest thing? I was a townie in that game.... Huh. Odd the kinds of things you find when you do a little research instead of relying on faulty logic.

Finally, I have two last quotes:





I since regret sticking my neck out for Kyon since he has not done the same for me but if you seriously follow this "deflecting" train of thought then it'd only make sense to suspect Kyon as well. So, are you going to vote for yourself first or shall I lead the way, Kyon?

And for what it's worth, I am still the most suspicious of Redack.

Thank you Mr. Bike Pro. {:P}

@ Redack, I wouldn't have taken your accusation very seriously if you didn't vote for me, but... seeing as you did...

As I look past in the Day 2 round and compare it with Day 1, I see the quote you're talking about. And I can't really remember why I put that (since I can't say I placed much importance on it...?), but it was only either for the reason you and Speed provided (summing up what hezekiah said) or that I mixed up what hezekiah said with what CtR Black said (he was the one that actually only said "hi", if you read back through Day 1; also, they are the only 2 people playing Mafia that I have never really met on GTx0, so I guess that facilitated my mix-up). I mean, I understand why it could seem suspicious, but I just didn't figure I'd be accused over something so minor, not to mention an honest mistake. But, I'm learning, because this is my first game. I hope you'll reconsider though, because...

Apollo is harmless... Do not kill Apollo {:(}

@Speed, I already noted that possibility regarding Apollo in my reply. Thanks for repeating me though, it's appreciated :)

Regardless, in this game I've learned to trust my gut feelings because the only thing I'll ever be 100% sure of is my own role. I'm sticking with my vote for now.

My current suspects for final two mafia would be:

chiefsonny- he's been quiet as town sided power role in the past, but with no power roles left (us summing feral was the sensor) then why is he so quiet?

Jo Nathan- I dunno, something about your behaviour that I can't quite put my finger on... It's like he's distancing himself from a vote on me, I feel like he's gauging it to see which way it goes before he commits. Possibly just doesn't want to incriminate himself and is innocent, possibly mafia looking to make himself innocent... I dunno, just voicing thoughts at this stage.

Apollo- My initial stuff is fairly bad and wouldn't hold up in any court... But after building this suspicion of her I simply can't get rid of it, I may be on a witch hunt here and I may well be trying to burn an innocent person at the stake... But as I said, gut feelings and all that.

Kyon- His recent vote for Speed was a bit out of the blue, I can't tell if it's a joke or what... It seems like a really bad move if he is mafia but at the same time can't rule anything out.

Everyone else is generally acting as I've come to expect and hasn't really given me much cause to suspect them. Although I'd be willing to lynch Speed if he continues to try and get me lynched, if only to remove the distraction he's causing (which the mafia can and likely will use to stay hidden).

ugh

I've kinda gotten detached from this lately because I haven't really had the time to follow it. My grandparents' estate sale is tomorrow/Sunday so I've been spending several hours a day poring over every last thing (they had a lot of things) in the house (not a small house), moving furniture and organizing and cleaning and pricing and all that jazz. So while I'm a fair bit behind at the moment, I'll say that Redack and Black Yoshi have both had my attention. Normally I'd be adding relevant info to this post but I'm halfway out the door as it is, and at the risk of seeming maybe a tad flighty I think I just want to break this stalemate up a little. Hopefully I'm not off-base.

Well I'm hardly going to let myself die if I can help it.

Well I'm hardly going to let myself die if I can help it.

Let's give our audience a show they'll not soon forget, old sport...

Also if I do happen to die, don't lynch Speed. I'm pretty confident he's innocent... Lynch Apollo, in my honour!

In fact, this is the better outcome since it'll stop the mafia using me.

Just promise me you'll lynch Apollo and not Speed.

You have approximately one hour to present a case better than "gut feelings and all that." Otherwise no, I don't see a reason to lynch Apollo.

Whatever happens, we can't forget about Kaotic -- I mean, he hasn't said a damned thing all game, at least not in the main threads. Why hasn't he been host-killed already? Isn't there a rule about host-killing for inactivity?

Regardless of how this day and following night turn out, I'd like to spend Day 6 placing the relatively inactive people under a massive microscope.

He's inactive because his account isn't/wasn't working.

Entirely not his fault.