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day 6 late is better than never

Posted April 14, 2014 by white lancer

Once again, the Town had Apollo Justice in their sights as the day round started. Once she confessed to being the Serial Killer, she was immediately arrested and put on trial and sentenced...oh, wait, that's not what happened. I must have been mistaking this town for one with a sane criminal justice system. This Town, however, embraces vigilante justice (hence the lynching every day), and when Apollo confessed, they saw it as an opportunity to dispense even more vigilante justice. Whether it works out remains to be seen, but when Black Yoshi tried an unusual (and ineffective) means of throwing off suspicion when Apollo called him out, the Town quickly struck a deal with Apollo and voted out the Silencer.

1. The Bandit - Executioner
2. Roxas
3. Speed Bike Pro - Townie
4. Black Yoshi - Silencer
5. Jo Nathan
6. Kyon - Townie
7. MajorasMask9
10. Moonray
11. Feral Wolf
12. Apollo Justice
13. EvilGuy0613
14. eXcavator
15. Lady Flare - Townie
16. Bubba
17. hezekiah - Thug
18. chiefsonny - Nurse
19. Lightvayne
20. Count Dooku - Mafia Investigator
21. Marvalo - Townie
22. RockyT - Paranoid Gun Owner
23. Shadowwalked - Governor
24. Hindenburg
25. SDYoshi - Townie
26. Pirate_Ninja - Gunsmith

24 hours or until all Night actions are in.

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Excellent.

Now this is who we have left:

Roxas
Jo Nathan - Tracker
MajorasMask9
Feral Wolf - potentially the Admirer
Apollo Justice - Serial Killer
EvilGuy0613
eXcavator
Bubba
Lightvayne
Hindenburg - potentially the Journalist


Now which of these are most likely to be Mafia? There are two of them. I have a couple hunches but I'm not entirely confident of them.

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Jo Nathan

Don't worry, Apollo will spill the beans. And then we'll gut her like a fish in full public display.

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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

The remaining two roles in the Mafia are the Ninja and the Mafioso, meaning, if I'm not mistaken, that if the Ninja votes first to kill, the Watcher/Tracker/Journalist won't pick up any results. So I think it's unlikely you guys will have solid proof, just my word when it comes to the next day round, depending on what happens. {:?}

On another note, EvilGuy and eXcavator both really should come in here and speak. They've both barely contributed anything nearly this entire game besides to say "sorry guys been busy", which is fine since a lot of us have been busy, but I expect something more substantial than that. Wouldn't they risk being host killed since they didn't speak all day round?

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Apollo Justice

that if the Ninja votes first to kill, the Watcher/Tracker/Journalist

Is that really how the Ninja role works? So all checking roles are useless as far as detecting mafia goes as long as the ninja is alive?

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Bubba

Yeah, but

Ninja: Immune to detection by the Watcher or Tracker


I just checked the Night 0 thread, and the Ninja should thus be track-able by the Journalist. Journalist has no outward incentive to work with anyone, though, so it wouldn't be as reliable as Tracking or Watching results for the Town.

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Apollo Justice

The Ninja is also immune to the Journalist--that role should have been added to the Night 0 thread. Also, to answer MM9's question from the day round (since I didn't have time this morning), the Silencing did wind up effectively being a roleblock this game since they lost access to their threads.

As to Host Killing, I really hate doing it, especially this late in the game, but both eXcavator and EvilGuy will need to contribute more. Otherwise, they'll force my hand and I'll have to take them out at the end of the next day round. EXcavator in particular just barely escaped being Host Killed with Rochy. That being said, this was a relatively short Day round so not posting in it isn't an automatic Host Kill.

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white lancer

You are safe so long as a Mafia(preferably the Assassin) winds up dead come morning. It won't be hard to figure out who the Mafia's target is come morning. It would be astonishing if it wasn't you or Jo.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

I think I'd like to approach this slightly differently.

I'm thinking that I'll kill whoever the majority of the town says they want to kill. Actually, I really like this idea.

The only condition is that anyone who hasn't spoken in the past day if voted for substantially, I'll only kill if they speak beforehand. I think that's only 2 people, but I don't want to kill off an inactive person if they'll just be host killed otherwise.

I like this idea more because, with me being a third party (even though I'm not happy with the Mafia, I'm also technically not aligned with the town and you were all about to lynch me anyways), it gives a better sense of neutrality and I'll be more comfortable in my position at the moment anyways. Consider it a night-lynching, if you will.

Sound good?

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Apollo Justice

Hmmm... but the problem is that the Mafia could base their kill on this information and give them an advantage. Any suggestions?

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Apollo Justice

Well there's only so much you can say other then agreeing with everyone when you don't know much of anything. Also I don't know if my post just get by passed but I've actually tried to contribute. May not have been that helpful or pretty obvious but yeah.

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EvilGuy0613

I wasn't implying that you weren't being helpful, but you haven't posted very much throughout the game is all - inactivity near the end of the game really can hamper things and totally change the outcome {:?}

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Apollo Justice

kill mafia plz

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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

Agreed with Hindy, NO DEAL! You are in no position to bargain. Either a Mafia dies tonight or you don't survive another day.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

I don't understand when me explaining why I haven't been posting much turned into a bargain. That's just typically how I play mafia. (Asks the others who came from the same site I did.)

April 15, 2014
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EvilGuy0613

I was talking to Apollo, EG, not you. I have no issue with you.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

I have a bad feeling about three specific individuals but I don't know if it's because I'm reading too much into things. Chances are all three of them are innocent and I'm barking up the wrong trees... I guess I'll just wait and see what the new round brings us.

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Jo Nathan

It was finally time. They had had their fun for a while, but now it appeared to be backfiring, and it felt like they no longer had any choice. So it was that the two remaining Mafia member went out for a kill perhaps brought out by desperation. Per the plan, one of them entered the house by the front door, while the other circled around back. They struggled with the lock for a moment, as their partner was usually the one who dealt with these sorts of things, but eventually they got it and opened the door.

"Hello."

The Mafioso froze at the sound of the voice, and slowly turned their head around the room. As their eyes adjusted, they finally caught sight of one Apollo Justice, sitting nonchalantly with a gigantic shotgun pointed at his head.

"I wasn't sure you were one of them. Hard to tell with you being so quiet all the time. But I guess I have my answer now, hmm?"

"Hold on, Apollo," EvilGuy stammered. "I'm just here to--"

"Save it," she waved his words away. I'm done taking orders from you guys."

"But..."

BLAM!!!/i]

With that, the Mafioso tumbled to the floor, and Apollo paused to revel in her near victory. It had been a long time coming, but at last they were down to just a single Mafia member. By they way, where was that pesky Ninja...?

By all accounts, Ninjas are too quiet to hear, and maybe that's why this one alone had eluded Apollo's sights. They certainly eluded her hearing this time, except for when they finally wrapped their arms around Apollo's neck. "You're done, alright. We didn't have any more orders for you." Then, with a brutal twist, the last Mafia snapped the Serial Killer's neck and slipped out into the night.

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white lancer

Well I guess this was not anything entirely surprising.

Revised list of survivors:

Roxas
Jo Nathan - Tracker
MajorasMask9
Feral Wolf - potentially the new Serial Killer
eXcavator
Bubba
Lightvayne
Hindenburg - potentially the Journalist


Roxas did not appear to leave his house. Not that it proves anything with the Ninja around.

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Jo Nathan

Thanks you Apollo. And I take back what I said about that being a bad block by the Governor.

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Bubba

Tracker/Watcher/Journalist should have no interesting results this round considering they'd only be able to see themselves, and not a killing role. I'd like to propose the idea of a mass roleclaim at this point or by the beginning of the next round. While the watching roles will be able to see the new Serial Killer, they won't be able to detect the Ninja, limiting their usefulness by a bit. Right now the ratio is 5-1-1-1 which puts us at a significant numbers advantage where we can almost brute force our way to the end with no problems.

I'm still suspicious of Feral as the possible Admirer/Serial Killer, as well. Also have minor suspicions of eXcavator and Roxas, but they've been a bit too quiet to get a read on.

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MajorasMask9

Majora, you could have saved me a headache by coming forward as the Tracker earlier.

The only ones left who could have trusted and known Vayne well enough to work with him are you and Excavator, and Excavator wouldn't have tracked himself day 1.

I'm gonna have to pick between Bubba and Roxas today. One of them HAS to be either Mafia or SK. Safe to guess Excavator is the other.

Hindy, if you are the Journalist, which is 99% likely(you weren't really silenced day 2, were you?), you might as well come forward. If it Isn't Hindy, then I ask the real Journalist to reveal so we can eliminate another suspect. I promise, we have no reason to harm you.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Townie, and I invite all three power roles to follow me tonight. I have nothing to hide.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Townie, and I invite all three power roles to follow me tonight. I have nothing to hide.

With the ninja being the only mafia left, that's a mighty bold statement.

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Bubba

Majora, you could have saved me a headache by coming forward as the Tracker earlier.


Lol... Except I'm not the Tracker.

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MajorasMask9

Wow great it's not like we wanted the Ninja gone instead of the Mafioso or anything you PROMISCUOUS CHAMBERMAID

Yes, Feral, I was silenced day 2. And now that it is revealed that it was Black Yoshi, it makes even less sense. I dunno if I'm comfortable with mass roleclaim now since there is, you know, the Ninja still alive, but there aren't many other options at this point since Apollo has left us with a Ninja and didn't TELL US WHO IT FUCKING WAS

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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

On another note, EvilGuy and eXcavator both really should come in here and speak.

secret decoder ring, it's excavator

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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

No one said they thought I was the Ninja. I was trying to prove to Majora the best I could that I am not the Serial Killer.

Lynch me if you want, but it won't help you.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Apollo deliberately didn't tell us who the Ninja is, so we are more apt to lynch at least one or two more townies before we nail him. That would give the remaining Serial Killer a better chance at victory. Makes sense.

Also @Feral: I already claimed Tracker. lol

With only one Mafia and one serial killer left, false-claiming would be suicide for them; ergo, I guarantee this will not be a repeat of what happened when I roleclaimed a couple games ago.

And now that it is revealed that it was Black Yoshi, it makes even less sense.


Well he could have been urged by his teammates. Who knows.

I too am for a mass roleclaim. I already claimed, and I know who the watcher is but will allow him to claim for himself if he so desires.

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Jo Nathan

Well, if it's not Majora, then it has to be Vayne himself.

If either Roxas or Bubba is a town-alligned power role, it's in their best interest to reveal themselves.

If I was forced to vote for someone right now, it would be Excavator.

Also, I think we should take this round a bit slowly.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

So let me get this straight... When we were putting our trust in a claimed Serial Killer you were willing to end the round immediately because you were sure it was a smart move, and you pointed a finger at me for wanting to take it slow and think about it, and now you want to take this round slow?

I didn't want to say anything as to not give the mafia/serial killer ideas in the night but they could have completely screwed the town over last night. If they worked together for even one more round and killed two confirmed innocents (Say, Jo Nathan and someone else) we would be at a ratio of 3-2-2-1 with less power roles and we'd be outnumbered by the mafia and serial killers. Thankfully that didn't happen and we still have a significant advantage.

But that was a very real possibility and the hastiness you showed in the last round (and attacking me for wanting to think it through, and not immediately bandwagoning in that initial 10 or 20 minutes) is one of the reasons I think it's very likely that you're the Serial Killer.

To clarify I'm not saying I think we shouldn't take this round slow. Rather, I'm pointing out what I see as unusual behavior on your part.

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MajorasMask9

my green leaked (ashamed)

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MajorasMask9

I don't have usual behavior.

As I said, if you want to lynch me, I won't fight it. I'd just laugh when you lost the game.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Neglecting the Journalist, we have 7 players. As far as the Mafia's victory condition is concerned, the ratio is 6 vs 1. We could actually afford a mis-lynch or two.

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Jo Nathan

Seeing as activity died down a bit...

For what it's worth, not that it'll be easy to differentiate between the Ninja and Serial Killer considering they're both "guilty," I think we should focus our lynch on who we think is the mafia Ninja. Maybe have Jo Nathan track Feral to confirm whether or not he's the Serial Killer. Have the Watcher and Journalist watch whoever they want (if they're in contact, perhaps work together to ensure you're watching two different people.) With three roles that can watch players and two killing roles, the Ninja will probably be mostly worried about the Serial Killer, while the Serial Killer will be worried about the Ninja and the Watching roles.

With three watching roles, even if the Ninja and Serial Killer both kill two of them, there will be a third alive that can still get results on the Serial Killer.

The Ninja we're going to have to find by gut instincts. We have the numbers now though so we have a decent amount of room for error.

Unless we're certain that someone is the Serial Killer, I think examining past rounds and determining likely mafia players would be our best option for today's lynch.

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MajorasMask9

u beat me...

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MajorasMask9

Kind of mixed up my thoughts at the end of that big paragraph but hopefully my point came across alright :)

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MajorasMask9

As confusion mounted and the Town dithered over what to do, a paperboy ran up with the newest issue of the Journalist's column. Would this be what the Town needed to make a move?

"I contacted Apollo Justice after it was clear he was the Serial Killer. He informed me that Hindenburg is *likely* the Ninja disguising himself as the Journalist with his constant Apollo bashing and voting, and that he himself would be killing evilguy, who he is 100% sure is mafia.

Roxas was my previous check that wasn't revealed, he stayed in and had no visitors.

I checked Hindenburg last night in case of a slip up by the mafia, he stayed in and had no visitors."

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white lancer

Well, I now know 100% who the Journalist is.

Since this proves my out of date Hindy-Journalist theory wrong, I have no problem lynching him in the long run.

We know that Jo, Roxas, Hindy, and the Journalist can't be the Serial Killer. Watcher is still the wild card here...

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

We can't rule out Hindenburg or Roxas as the Serial Killer if you're basing it on the Journalist information that was just posted. The current Serial Killer was an Admirer up until this day round, meaning they would have never made any kills (Apollo was the one making kills.)

Interesting report none the less. Especially the part about talking to Apollo OOG and her suggestion that Hindenburg is the Ninja. As I said, lynching the Ninja today would be much more beneficial than lynching the Serial Killer, and based on that I think I'd be willing to vote for Hindenburg.

We still have over 48 hours left though and (correct me if I'm wrong, lancer) we'd need 5 votes to end the round? (I've heard that 2/3 rounded up is used for the votes but IIRC Yeano used to use 60% rounded up, so idk.)

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MajorasMask9

I've been taking 2/3s rounded up, so 6 votes.

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white lancer

If Apollo the Serial Killer and the third-party Journalist were in talks, we can't be entirely sure that they didn't strike up some kind of deal to help protect the remaining Serial Killer somehow, in return for tipping the Journalist off on Hindenburg for an easy point.

In fact, if you look at all previous threads, almost every single use of an asterisk is by Apollo herself. It's almost as if she wrote that article and sent it to the Journalist to post. Except it would be weird for Apollo to refer to herself as a "he"...

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Jo Nathan

There are definitely some oddities about this whole situation. I have to go to bed before I over-think this too much.

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Jo Nathan

I contacted Apollo Justice after it was clear he was the Serial Killer.

This bitch doesn't even know Apollo is a girl, first of all.

Hindenburg is *likely* the Ninja disguising himself as the Journalist with his constant Apollo bashing and voting

Nowhere have I ever said I was the Journalist, although it was convenient that people apparently thought I was to avoid everyone jumping on me and instantly lynching me like in every game. Also, calling Apollo a "loser" is hardly befitting of my artful speechcraft up to this point, but w/e.

The fact that Feral and MM are so willing to lynch a possible Townie when we're down to like 3 people is disturbing to me, though.

Anyway, now that my Journalist anti-Mafia pseudo-smokescreen is gone (THANKS DICKHEAD) I guess I'm up for the mass rolecall. im townie

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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

I don't believe the report. Why wouldn't Apollo tell us that she was planning on releasing more info with the journalist? I mean, it's possible it was a last second thing or Apollo just wasn't interested in helping the town. But I'm not buying it.

But the idea of Hindenburg disguising himself like the article mentioned isn't far-fetched, and is something I did pick up on. Journalist probably noticed it too and is working for some points.

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Bubba

Holy replies, Batman.

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Bubba

The fact that Feral and MM are so willing to lynch a possible Townie when we're down to like 3 people is disturbing to me, though.


Just listing my current thoughts, I definitely wouldn't put a vote in this early. What are your suggestions for this round? I'd rather wait until we hear from everyone before we vote as a group. I think it would be very telling if we know exactly who each player thinks is suspicious and should be voted for.

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MajorasMask9

Because a mass role claim at this point would be really helpful. {:/} we'd end up with four or five townie claims and only three being legitimate.

Also, I don't think that Apollo would only give us half the information to finish off the Mafia and leave us out to dry or mislead us.

I still think the last mafia member is either Hindy or Bubba, and I'm more inclined to lean towards Hindy.

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`Roxas`

Bubba left his house in the night. You don't see anyone else visiting him, however.


If he was seen leaving the house, then I think we can rule him out as a possible suspect. Same goes for anyone else seen leaving there house. That would help narrow it down a bit

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Lightvayne

Since the cat is out of the bag, confession time. I'm the journalist. My entry is 100% true however, Apollo did speak to me and tell me that she was pretty sure Hindenburg is the last remaining mafia. Whether or not we can believe her word is questionable though. I used male pronouns to pin the journalist on either lightvayne or excavator, two players who wouldn't know Apollo's gender. I came close to revealing myself in my entry, but decided to keep it under wraps for one more round.

Bubba - Journalist
Lightvayne - Watcher
Jo Nathan - Tracker
Majora
Feral
Roxas
eXcavator
Hindenburg - Mafia? (according to Apollo)

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Bubba

Then it's settled. The three townies, mafia, and serial killer are two of the following players, meaning we should lynch one of these people:

2. Roxas
7. MajorasMask9
11. Feral Wolf
14. eXcavator
24. Hindenburg

I said earlier that I wouldn't be against a roleclaim and I'm not, so this coming out doesn't seem like a bad thing. My only fear was that seeing as the Journalist and Watcher were previously unknown, it was likely the two killing roles could have shot a townie (or themselves) and narrowed the list even more. But now I think it's likely that both roles will kill confirmed innocents like Jo or Lightvayne.

Anyway, yes I am a townie and I think I trust Feral and Roxas over Hindenburg and eXcavator as well. Feral in particular seems the most townie-like of the group.

So my current thoughts for today are that we should lynch Hindenburg or eXcavator. I'd lean more toward Hindenburg for the sole reason that Apollo mentioned him possibly being the Ninja, which is slightly larger threat than the Serial Killer considering they can't be seen by the Watcher/Tracker/Journalist.

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MajorasMask9

I used male pronouns to pin the journalist on either lightvayne or excavator


I didn't want to say anything because it would expose Lightvayne, but that's been done anyway, sooo.... yeah, not a bad plan on your part, but my previous tracking results ruled them out as the journalist. {:P}

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Jo Nathan

Honestly I can't decide who I think is most suspicious. I'll have to go through all previous rounds and try to pick up on some things.

I won't compile another deluge of text like I did that one time, though. That turned out to be a big f!@#ing waste... {:/}

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Jo Nathan

I'm almost tempted to say we should vote for eXcavator actually. He's been very quiet and if he is mafia/serial killer we don't really have anything to base it on. It's hard to say I want to not vote for Hindenburg after what Apollo told us, but we should keep in mind Apollo didn't claim to know with 100% certainty that Hindenburg was the Ninja. I'd feel pretty bad if we lynched Hindy and he was innocent, with eXcavator being the Ninja and only slipping under the radar because he hasn't talked much.

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MajorasMask9

Sorry for my inactivity today. Spend the morning and afternoon in bed puking my brains out. Nasty virus going around here.

So, I'm not the Serial Killer anymore, Majora? What changed your mind?

I think Pollo is wrong about the Hindy. If he was Mafia, why would Yoshi have Silenced him day 2? He seemed honestly surprised when it was revealed that Yoshi was the one who Silenced him. We have less then 24 hours left today, and we need to do something. Since he is inactive and we have breathing room, I have no problem doing this:

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

I'm sure you guys understand my reasoning for this. I'm going to trust Apollo, and get some journalist points while I'm at it.

I'd like Lancer to comment on a inactivity for excavator. How much less does he need to post to get one?

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Bubba

If he was Mafia, why would Yoshi have Silenced him day 2? He seemed honestly surprised when it was revealed that Yoshi was the one who Silenced him.


It's actually happened more than once before, that the Silencer targeted a fellow Mafia to try to make him/her appear innocent. Hindy could have just been acting like he was surprised.

But we can't know for sure at the moment.

For what it's worth, I'm opposed to voting for eXcavator right now because he's facing a host-kill anyway unless he posts this round.

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Jo Nathan

So, I'm not the Serial Killer anymore, Majora? What changed your mind?


I just think the way you worded things this round make you seem more townie-like, but don't think I'm not going to analyze everything else you say ;).

Besides, like I said, I think our best shot is to lynch the Ninja this round. I think the Ninja almost has to be either eX or Hindy based on what I've seen these past few rounds. If we lynch them, and they're the Ninja, then we have four people who could possibly be the Serial Killer and three watching roles that can now collaborate OOG. The SK would have nowhere to hide.

And @ Feral regarding the Silencer: I see your point in how he appeared surprised, but you of all people should know being silenced means next to nothing. You silenced yourself in the first round of a mafia game a while back!

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MajorasMask9

Lol, I remember silencing myself! Backfired so bad that I was killed before it lifted, and never even got to post in the main thread.

April 16, 2014
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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Guys, we can't "no lynch". What is the plan?

To be safe:

April 16, 2014
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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

If eXcavator doesn't speak by the end of the day round, he will be Host Killed. Hate to do it so late, but...

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white lancer

You guys are seriously considering lynching me based on what Apollo said in what was most likely a lie by Bubba to get, and I quote,

some journalist points while I'm at it.

And for that matter, why is it narrowed down to me and eXcavator? Why are Roxas and MM more innocent than me either?

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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

I'm hesitant because I don't want to look like a dumbfuck but MM is being very insistent on killing someone who is likely a townie. Hell, two of them in one round, it would appear. That sounds like a great strategy to get most of the cannon fodder out of the way if you're a Ninja or Serial Killer.

April 17, 2014
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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

Yeah, no way you and Excavator are both innocent. Since Excavator will likely be host killed, you are the next best bet. Convince me of you're innocense, and I will change my vote.

Once the Mafia is dead, the Serial Killer can't win any way. With three confirmed innocents, he has no way to kill everybody off.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

I'm not saying we are both innocent, I'm saying that we are both potentially innocent.

But again, please explain why I am any more suspicious than you or MM other than the hunch of a dead serial killer written in an article by a Journalist who just wants easy points. Convince me of YOUR innocence why don't you.

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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

Bubba
Jo Nathan
Lightvayne
Roxas
MajorasMask9
Feral Wolf
eXcavator
Hindenburg

Leaving out the Journalist, the ratio is 5 - 1 - 1

Worst case scenario, eXcavator is hostkilled and turns out to be innocent, we lynch Hindenburg and turns out to be innocent, and the Ninja and SK each kill one innocent. That would bring the ratio down to 1 - 1 - 1 for the start of next round.

How would it play out at that point? Even if the Townie survives and one of the others get lynched, the ratio is tied 1 to 1 and the town automatically loses at that point.

We really can't let ourselves get overconfident at this point.

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Jo Nathan

Holy crap I can't believe how many times I used the word "point"....

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Jo Nathan

I'm hesitant because I don't want to look like a dumbfuck but MM is being very insistent on killing someone who is likely a townie. Hell, two of them in one round, it would appear. That sounds like a great strategy to get most of the cannon fodder out of the way if you're a Ninja or Serial Killer.


Who are you claiming is very likely innocent? You or eXcavator? Either way, I'm open to suggestions on who to lynch, I just don't think that of the five "Townie Claims" (Me, Roxas, Feral, You, eXcavator,) that both you and eXcavator are both innocent. I think I'd trust Apollo's judgement if what she said to Bubba actually happened, especially if she was 100% certain that EvilGuy was mafia and killed him because of that. If she had been working with the mafia for the majority of the game (which according to her, they told her who to kill for Nights 2 and 3,) I think it's likely she'd know more about the goings on of the mafia, especially if they were telling her who to kill. She killed two mafia members back to back Nights 4 and 5, so if she said that you're likely the Ninja it's hard to ignore that as a sign of evidence supporting your guilt, as inconclusive as evidence is in this game.

My reasoning for lynching eXcavator (and for what it's worth, when I mentioned killing him I only meant just killing him, not the both of you,) was because he's the only really inactive player amongst the group of 5, meaning he isn't going to be easy to read at all. I'd rather we kill him (eliminating either a guilty player, or an innocent role that the Mafia/SK can hide behind) than kill someone that the old Serial Killer allegedly said was likely the Ninja, only to find out we were wrong, and still have an inactive player to deal with (tbh I didn't realize eXcavator would be host-killed this round, otherwise I wouldn't have suggested lynching him.)

We can still mislynch this round and have strong numbers, but I'd obviously rather avoid that. However I think eXcavator would be a safe lynch.

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MajorasMask9

Honestly this whole Hindy thing seems to me like it's just going to turn into another classic "aw shit hindsight's a bitch" mistake.

To be quite frank, the person who strikes me as suspicious the most is Roxas. If he's Mafia, then he's had one fun time just sitting back watching us all flail around like chickens with our heads cut off. I accused The Bandit of being Mafia because he seemed like he was playing it way too safe, and I've been observing the same thing about Roxas.

Besides, it always seems like fate that Roxas and I kill each other or at least try to. I don't know why, that just seems to always happen.

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Jo Nathan

And I actually have more to add to my reasoning, but I'm just too tired to go sifting through the previous rounds tonight. I'll try to do that tomorrow.

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Jo Nathan

Well, this is great. Just when I thought we were on the same page, we wind up all over the friggen board.

The Serial Killer will be lynched next round. I know who he is. I'm just trying to concentrate on the Assasin as he is the bigger threat.

I will not say who it is or how I know until night. It will be easier to force him out after the next set of night kills.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

The Serial Killer will be lynched next round. I know who he is. I'm just trying to concentrate on the Assasin as he is the bigger threat.

I will not say who it is or how I know until night. It will be easier to force him out after the next set of night kills.


Would just like to say that I know the Ninja is a bigger threat at this point, but killing someone who's definitely guilty is better than killing someone who might be a townie at this point. How are you so sure you know who the Serial Killer is anyway?

Because if you have concrete evidence that someone is the Serial Killer, then keeping them alive to try to kill the Ninja is pointless (Ninja, not Assassin.) Because the only difference between the Ninja and Serial Killer is that the Ninja is immune to being seen at night, but if you know without a doubt that someone is the serial killer, then you don't need a watching role to confirm their guilt since it's already known. If you see what I'm saying.

But I don't see how you could definitively establish the identity of either the Serial Killer--or even the Ninja for that matter--at this point, given the information we know.

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MajorasMask9

A little thing called "observation". This person has followed a pattern over the last several rounds that is easy to see once you know what to look for. I don't have concrete evidence(I'm hoping the night kills will provide it), but in each previous round, they have continued their pattern, and my suspision has grown, and I am now 95% certain.

I already asked Jo or Vayne to track them tonight. The other can track me.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Ok so I had an entire post written up where I was going to argue that "lynching only eXcavator would be the safest lynch," only to look at the numbers and realize that isn't true. We need to lynch at least one guilty player this round or we'll be almost guaranteed to lose.

If one player dies this round and they're innocent, we're very likely to be screwed. The ratio at the end of the day will be 4-1-1. If both the Ninja and Serial Killer kill a confirmed innocent (which there are two of, Jo and Lightvayne,) the ratio will be 2-1-1. If that's the ratio, then even if we lynch a guilty player, the end of day ratio would be 2-1, and the remaining guilty player would kill an innocent and win the game.

But if we kill even one guilty player this round, that increases our odds of winning significantly. Suppose eXcavator dies (innocent) but we lynch a guilty player (or suppose eXcavator is guilt and we accidentally lynch an innocent player.) The ratio will be 4-1 at the end of the day. At the start of the next day, it would be 3-1. That's a mislynch and lose situation, but at least we'd still have a chance to win.

Obviously killing two innocents would be bad as well, but IMO the odds are in our favor if we let eXcavator be host-killed and lynch someone else in hopes that we lynch one confirmed guilty player.

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MajorasMask9

Who are you claiming is very likely innocent? You or eXcavator?

Either, but obviously I'm going to say I'm a Townie so that makes me very likely innocent. That being said, I guess I'd be in favor of lynching Roxas, if not just because he seems to have been flying under the radar this whole game for some reason.

Also, it seems to me that Feral's "i know who the serial killer is but i'm not saying anything because reasons" is a ploy to evade being lynched tonight.

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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

Also, it seems to me that Feral's "i know who the serial killer is but i'm not saying anything because reasons" is a ploy to evade being lynched tonight.

Yeah, he's acting odd with his many "I know who it is, but can't say" claims. That's twice now with the journalist and Serial killer.

My problem with lynching Roxas and excavator is that they've been too inactive at this point. Naturally, if you're a power role you're going to be more inclined to play the game. Taking out a more active role right now may be the better move, especially when it comes to voting down the line.

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Bubba

Also, it seems to me that Feral's "i know who the serial killer is but i'm not saying anything because reasons" is a ploy to evade being lynched tonight.


I have to agree with this. With the roles that are left, there really is no way for you to possibly know who the SK is (unless its you :P ). We already know, who the Journalist, Watcher and Trackers are (Me, Bubba and Jo). There really is no investigative roles left.

Admirer - ?
Ninja - ?
Tracker - Jo
Watcher - LV
Journalist - Bubba
Towniesx3 - ?, ?, ?

Remaining unaccounted for players
Roxas
MajorasMask9
Feral Wolf
eXcavator
Hindenburg


At the moment, NO ONE, can detect the Ninja, so any info the power roles have are pointless. The Admirer just became the serial killer, so previous to the last night round, this role would not have left the house because there wasn't anything they could do. The remaining townies also don't have a role, so no one would detect them leaving either.

For now, I'm just gonna hope eXca stays inactive as that will eliminate the possibility that he could be one of the bad guys. I'm going to vote for Feral for now though it hopes that he better start explaining what he knows for the good of the town. If we don't get a response from him...well, then he's probably about as guilty as you can get

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Lightvayne

Also Hindenburg...

Don't think I forgot about Apollos claim about you....

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Lightvayne

this is EXACTLY why I didn't want to say anything. Now I have to share with NO evidense, and no doubt the clever SK will use it against me, get me lynched, and end the game. With my difficulty putting my thoughts into words, this will suck...

the Serial Killer is Majora.

I first grew slightly suspicious of him when he attempted to frame me. I disregarded this as my mind being defensive. It was when Majora began directing our attention toward the Admirer and away from the SK that I began to really think this through.

I went back to the Apollo stuff. Majora was extremely worried about trusting him and repeatedly talked us into delaying the lynch. In the end, he voted Yoshi anyway. I realized that it made more sense that he was delaying while he was secretly talking to Apollo and making plans with her. He always intended to kill Yoshi.

See, what we failed to take into concideration is that there is no reason that the Admirer wouldn't have contacted the Serial Killer. The new SK already knows EXACTLY who the Ninja is.

So, why does Majora not try to subtly lead of toward the Ninja? Because getting a townie lynched(as he did Excavator early on) would be MUCH more beneficial to him. Not only would it lessen the town's lead, but would allow for TWO night kills- Jo and Vayne- leaving only one investigative role. As long as Bubba didn't track him(and Bubba would have no reason to), he just leads the rest of the town in lynching the Ninja, night kills one of the two remaining townies and wins the game.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Or we could all just vote for Hindenburg, someone who Apollo was pretty sure is mafia.

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Bubba

Not nessesaraly. Apollo could easily have set us up to kill an innosent to give her TRUE ally a boost.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Not the Serial Killer and lol @ you saying you're certain I am.

It was when Majora began directing our attention toward the Admirer and away from the SK that I began to really think this through.


When did I do this?

I have problems with a lot of what you said (I don't even know what you were saying in the last paragraph?) I've been trying to lynch the Ninja this round, the only people I never brought up as possible lynch targets were you and Roxas, and I was going to say why I don't think Roxas would be a bad lynch target last night since his name came up, but I was falling asleep and was like "lol whatever." Unless you're the Ninja or you know Roxas is innocent, I don't see how I've been steering us away from lynching the Ninja. In fact I explicitly posted that only lynching eXcavator is a bad play just in the event that he's innocent. According to your logic, I'd still be pushing to only lynch one player.

My problem with lynching Roxas and excavator is that they've been too inactive at this point. Naturally, if you're a power role you're going to be more inclined to play the game. Taking out a more active role right now may be the better move, especially when it comes to voting down the line.


Roxas hasn't been that inactive, but there's always the chance one of them could be the Serial Killer. They would have been an Admirer in the previous rounds, which is basically a non-power role.

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MajorasMask9

my italics leaked :(

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MajorasMask9

I told you I suck at wording things.

I'm putting my Mafia carreer on the line. If you are not the Serial Killer, I will retire from Mafia once and for all. I am sick of feeling like a moron because of this game.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

And I know votes are being thrown all over the place right now and my name is one of them but I still want to vote for either Roxas or Hindenburg. I get the strong feeling Feral is just a misguided Townie which is why I don't think we should be killing him this round.

Roxas has been kind of inactive but kind of not, which makes me a little worried. As Jo Nathan pointed out he has been kind of laying low and going with the flow a lot of the time. I know in the past when he's been a town-sided player he'd be one of the people pushing for lynches or making big plays (like his signature early cop claims.)

Hindenburg I want to lynch strictly for the fact that Apollo said he'd likely be the Ninja (I don't think Apollo would lie about that after killing two other mafia members back to back.) I think it's more likely though that Bubba made it up in hopes to get another Journalist point. It just seems too like him, especially after showing how already deceptive he's been with referring to Apollo as "him." Part of me wants to believe because of it being convenient if Hindenburg is the Ninja, but part of me knows that Bubba would definitely lie about that ;).

I think the only reason I'd want to vote for Hindenburg is because Bubba obviously won't be voting for anyone else, and with eXcavator being inactive and Roxas obviously not voting for himself, we'd only get 5 votes max. But honestly and maybe this is dum but the more I listen to Hindenburg the more I want to believe he's innocent, and the more I believe Bubba is being classic Bubba with the Journalist article.

But w/e voting for Roxas. I think this is a safe lynch.

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MajorasMask9

Don't retire!!! It's normal to make mistakes in mafia. It's pretty abnormal to not make mistakes. Even I made some bad plays this game, but when you're a Townie you literally have no information to go on except what other people say, and even then you have to wonder if they're lying or not.

But I'm not the SK (or Ninja for that matter :),) and I was just wondering what you were referring to in your post. If you mean the time when I brought up the possibility of you being the Admirer, I wasn't pushing to lynch you then, I was saying I found it suspicious how you were pushing to take votes off of a confirmed Serial Killer.

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MajorasMask9

God, I don't even know what's going on this game. Since eXcavator is probably being kicked out next round and he MAY be a Townie I really don't want to kill any Townies on top of that. On the other hand, Jesus this has been a long game and I want it to end.

I'll vote for Roxas because Kingdom Hearts sucks, but if he's a Townie then MM is guilty for sure, because Feral's right on one thing, he keeps trying to lead a lynch on people who have a high chance of being a Townie. First eXcavator, then me, and now Roxas, all for rather unconvincing reasons. I realize there's not much to go on, but you are bloodthirsty as hell when one fuckup could cost us the game and apparently no one else finds that suspicious so w/e, bye Roxas.

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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

To be fair, I'm the one who started the charge against Roxas. And I am going to be pretty damn embarrassed if I'm wrong.

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Jo Nathan

Roxas hasn't really been around since yesterday...

Honestly, this is probably a huge mistake but I'm going to switch my vote back to the original plan of Hindenburg

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Lightvayne

I'm just too damn tired of this.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

Roxas- 4
Hindenburg- 2

Unless Roxas makes it back, it all comes down to Bubba...

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

There seem to be some reservations about voting for Roxas. Why don't we talk about them before committing.

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Jo Nathan

I'm reluctant to kill anyone other than MM or Feral but it seems like no one will jump on those bandwagons, so Roxas it is.

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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

I just lost the post I've been working on for the past ten minutes... {fp} goddamn it. I will elaborate on my reasoning for suspecting Roxas when I get home from work.

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Jo Nathan

I have had enough talking. This round has completly burned me out.

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

I don't personally think Feral is guilty based on his responses the past few rounds. Maybe it's just me but it seems clear that Feral has been the most genuine about his strong feelings regarding other player's guilt or innocence (even if they've been occasionally wrong.) That genuine response isn't the easiest to fake.

You've said that I'm out for blood for likely townies but not everyone can be a likely townie. I think Feral is a likely townie which is why I don't want to vote for him. You've mentioned that you think Roxas/eXcavator are likely townies, but what reasons make you think Feral/me are not?

eXcavator is going to die from a hostkill most likely and honestly as I've said we need to kill a guilty role this round. If eXcavator is guilty, that is the most convenient for us. But it's risky to put all our chips on one death when killing just 1 innocent can lead to a town loss, but 1 guilty and 1 innocent would give us a significantly better chance at winning. Objectively speaking, the odds are better if we kill two players. In my mind it's a toss-up between you (Hindenburg) and Roxas. Your actions this round make me think you could be innocent and Roxas hasn't spoken much this round.

That's why I'm going to stick with my vote for Roxas.

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MajorasMask9

Unless Roxas makes it back, it all comes down to Bubba...

No, my vote is already in for Hindenburg. It's up to Jo and Roxas now.

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Bubba

I've already said why I don't think you or Feral are innocent, and I've also already said I don't think Roxas and eXcavator ARE townies, I'm saying they very well could be. We're just spinning our wheels here and I'd just like if we could murder someone and get it over with.

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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

Um... Hindy, ANY of us "could" be town-sided. That is the point of the game.

We are split down the middle with little more then 1/2 day left(I realize I said the same thing yesterday, but was going by the OP, which was the night round).

Anyway, the time for talking is over. Jo, the final call is yours. If you decide you want to lynch Hindy, I will change my vote to prevent a tie.

We need 5 votes to end the round, right?

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Feral Wolf
The Rogue Wolf

In process of getting a reply to everything typed out. Please don't kill. (cry)

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`Roxas`

The point of the game is finding out who isn't town-sided and then getting rid of them. What a Ninja or Serial Killer would do is take shots in the dark at people who are relatively inconspicuous and hope everyone else follows, which is what MM seems to be doing.

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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

Jo, the final call is yours.


Aw damn, I hate when that happens.

All right Roxas, I will happily read what you have to say. Just understand that I found you suspicious for the following reasons:

  • Amidst a series of joke votes for Redack, your vote was the first that looked like it was serious.
  • In addition to that, Dooku and hez followed shortly after, the latter even going so far as to provide a justification that was invalid.
  • Multiple times you said you were unsure of who to vote on, and that you had some thoughts but would share them later (but you never did) - and to be fair, I could understand if this is due to IRL issues keeping you from the game.
  • Lady Flare called you out for flying under the radar, and Apollo Justice stepped in to defend you. This piece of evidence might be a stretch, but I feel it is at least worth considering because Apollo subsequently killed Lady Flare and said the Mafia made her do it, possibly to get Flare off your case without getting their own hands dirty.
  • And your overall not-posting-very-much behavior. Which, again, I could understand if it were due to IRL stuff keeping you busy.



    @Hindenburg: to be honest, Majora is high on my suspect list as well.

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    Jo Nathan

    obviously I'm going to say I'm a Townie so that makes me very likely innocent.

    Pretty sure the wolf said the same thing when he disguised himself as a sheep.

    I know in the past when he's been a town-sided player he'd be one of the people pushing for lynches or making big plays (like his signature early cop claims.)

    I also wasn't away from my laptop for 10+ hours a day either. Naturally so, I wouldn't be able to be as active as I would like.

    but if he's a Townie then MM is guilty for sure, because Feral's right on one thing, he keeps trying to lead a lynch on people who have a high chance of being a Townie. First eXcavator, then me, and now Roxas, all for rather unconvincing reasons. I realize there's not much to go on, but you are bloodthirsty as hell when one fuckup could cost us the game and apparently no one else finds that suspicious so w/e, bye Roxas.

    So which is it? Do you stand against the witch hunt that MM9 is making or are you with it?

    To be fair, I'm the one who started the charge against Roxas.

    You merely threw my name into the fire was all, hardly a charge. Besides, it's natural that one of us go after the other, isn't it?

    -----

    Now, for some insight for those who have played Mafia here on GT for some time:

    MM9 has used people who are relatively inactive in throughout the game as a target late when he is the last person for his team. He is a phenomenal player and a hard one to go against. But that shouldn't be reason enough to go with his vote. He's done things like this before to win the game when he has been severely outnumbered.

    My original suspicions of people who could be Mafia (day 3 or 4?) included Bubba and Hindy. Guess which one is practically confirmed innocent. Hint: It's not Hindy. I'm not saying that I am innocent by any means, but I am much more inclined to believe Bubba's article from Apollo as I am damn near anything else this round.

    Feral seems to be flip-flopping among votes this round, which is keeping me pretty weary of him.

    eXcavator is... well, all but alive at this point.

    Lightvayne, from what I can tell, has been the only person to really remain calm throughout this round.

    My vote goes to Hindy for two reasons: The Article and me not wanting to die.

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    `Roxas`

    What a Ninja or Serial Killer would do is take shots in the dark at people who are relatively inconspicuous and hope everyone else follows, which is what MM seems to be doing.


    I'm not taking shots in the dark though. I'm using the process of elimination, which is a valid strategy. If you're going to say that the Journalist article indicating you're likely the Ninja isn't valid evidence to use against you, I don't know what you would consider evidence.

    You say I'm bloodthirsty for townies, but my question to you is if you agree with what I said earlier about killing two players this round being objectively a smarter decision than none? I can't tell if you're arguing against that or not.

    I don't think you've been inconspicuous by any means Hindenburg, and I don't think Roxas has either. eXcavator is the only one I'd say is completely inconspicuous but that's because he's been inactive. And that's not any reason to say he's confirmed innocent. But I'm basing my vote on the fact that I think Feral is definitely innocent, and I think you are possibly either innocent or the Ninja. But I could definitely see Roxas or eXcavator being the Serial Killer if not the Ninja, so I think a Roxas/eXcavator day killing is objectively our best chance at winning.

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    MajorasMask9

    Amidst a series of joke votes for Redack, your vote was the first that looked like it was serious.

    Suspicious, but only after

    In addition to that, Dooku and hez followed shortly after, the latter even going so far as to provide a justification that was invalid.

    which would only make me appear to be guilty.

    Multiple times you said you were unsure of who to vote on, and that you had some thoughts but would share them later (but you never did)

    Addressed in my reply.

    Lady Flare called you out for flying under the radar, and Apollo Justice stepped in to defend you. This piece of evidence might be a stretch, but I feel it is at least worth considering because Apollo subsequently killed Lady Flare and said the Mafia made her do it, possibly to get Flare off your case without getting their own hands dirty.

    At this point in the game, it seemed pretty obvious I wasn't going to be around much. I acknowledge the point your making, but see what I said about Dooku and hez. Apollo is also a good player, and perhaps she realized that I would be an easier lynch target down the road. Besides, we all know from the infamous first Star Wars game that I don't enjoy loose ends being around, meaning I would have wanted to kill Apollo earlier on in the game.


    I'm not exactly comfortable with MM9 around for the reasons I stated already, but my gut's said Hindy for a few rounds now.

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    `Roxas`

    But it doesn't matter because everything is by EST, meaning any votes or changes after Jo Nathan's to "Not Voting" don't count. {:(}

    {boo}{boo}{boo}{boo}

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    `Roxas`

    Also, piece of evidence that went completely unacknowledged:

    Night Round started at 10:21 EST (8:21 MST).
    Day Round started at 4:24 EST (2:24 MST).

    During that time, I would have had just one hour (my lunch hours), to check into the game, get my actions in, and hope that any other night actions wouldn't have already made their selections.

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    `Roxas`

    I never was suspicios of Roxas. I know he is inactive as all hell in general. I was just trying to get people moving.

    And boom goes the dynamite!

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    Feral Wolf
    The Rogue Wolf

    I love forcing the final vote. Hindy can only survive by not only convincing Jo to side with him, but convincing two votes against him to switch sides.

    Sorry, Majora, you lost this battle. Tomorrow, you lose the war.

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    Feral Wolf
    The Rogue Wolf

    And something to keep in mind: Apollo would know who the next SK would be, which means it's likely that the Mafia also know.

    If Feral is so sure that MM9 is the new SK, wouldn't it be considered likely that he is the last remaining Mafia?

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    `Roxas`

    Feral confirmed for Mafia now.

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    `Roxas`

    Wait, what? Why would Apollo tell the Mafia who the Admirer is? How do we even know the admirer even approached her and revealed themself before then?

    That made no sense...

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    Feral Wolf
    The Rogue Wolf

    SK and Admirers were a three person team. Any info the SK shared with an A1 would be passed along to A2 in all likelihood, no? Meaning A1 likely revealed A2's identity to the mafia.

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    `Roxas`

    Wrong. The Serial Killer was not made aware of the Admirers identities, nor were the Admirers aware of each others identities. I don't know if the Admirers recieved the privious SK's knowledge upon the roll being passed down, but either way, the Apollo had absolutly no reason to betray her team mate to the Mafia, if she even knew who they were.

    That fact that the Mafia never killed the last Admirer leads me to believe that they didn't get that info.

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    Feral Wolf
    The Rogue Wolf

    It's very possible that the Admirers approached Redack privately as soon as they could, and Redack would have been able to hook them up with each other. They could have been working together for the entire game.

    That fact that the Mafia never killed the last Admirer leads me to believe that they didn't get that info.


    It is possible Apollo never told them who the other Admirer was. BUT it's possible that she did. It's also possible they discovered his identity thanks to Dooku the Mafia Investigator. Maybe they haven't killed him yet because they haven't really had a chance to yet. After all, they were pretty much forced to use their previous kill on Apollo.

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    Jo Nathan

    Jo, you are a persistant bastard. You no longer have the power to change the lynch, so can we please put Day 6 out of it's mysery?

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    Feral Wolf
    The Rogue Wolf

    Starting to get really bad vibes about Feral suddenly anyone else?...

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    MajorasMask9

    Then kill me tonight, and you won't have to worry about me exposing you.

    (Sorry if my fake agression is offending anyone. I'm just experimented. And Jo, sorry for calling you a bastard. I Went to far there.)

    I really do want Jo to end this already, though.

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    Feral Wolf
    The Rogue Wolf

    Lancer said we need six votes anyway, so my vote alone isn't going to end the round.

    Well no matter what happens, it should be interesting to see how things play out. If we don't end up lynching a guilty party this round, the town is probably screwed but at least we can take bets on whether the Ninja or the SK will take the other one out first.

    Man, I bet everyone in the dead thread is on the edge of their seats at this point.

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    Jo Nathan

    Well, thanks guys. This is exactly what I was trying to avoid the entire Goddamn round but hey, whatever, ignore the totally suspicious MM and Feral and go after me instead. At least Bubba will get his points, right? Fuck.

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    Hindenburg
    Life's path is never straight.

    So which is it? Do you stand against the witch hunt that MM9 is making or are you with it?

    The witch hunt is the only way we can win, but the way he and Feral go about it to seemingly eliminate as many people as possible in a round is offputting and screams "this is the strategy the last mafia/SK guy would make". That's all I'm saying.

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    Hindenburg
    Life's path is never straight.

    Feral is definitely acting odd, but I think we're safe with killing excavator and hindenburg this round.

    April 18, 2014
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    Bubba

    I'd feel safer with eXcavator and Roxas tho

    Why'd you have to pick Hindenburg, Bubba :(...

    April 18, 2014
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    MajorasMask9

    Reply to: day 6 late is better than never

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