Mafia

Well I'm definitely upset that Hindenburg wasn't actually the Ninja, because if he was we'd have already won. But eXcavator being the Serial Killer was such a lucky break for us, because if he was innocent we'd be screwed, but now we have a good chance at taking the win by the next day. I'm not 100% sure who the Ninja is, but I do have my suspicions and I'll post my thoughts later.

But I am pretty sure I know who the final mafia member is.

Well, it's down to three posibilities including myself. Our power roles are now useless. My credibility is shot. My perfect theory was anything but.

Obviously, I'm gonna be lynched and the town will lose. If I was the Ninja, I'd throw in the towel in a second, but I'm not.

Sorry guys, I fucked the town over again. I'll keep my promise and retire.

Welp, at this point I don't think there is anything any of us can do. No one can track this guy, and more than likely one of the 3 power roles are going to die tonight.

(sad)

You townies have some tough decisions to make.

I really hope Roxas dies and this becomes Feral vs Majora.

Roxas will not die. If Roxas is innocent, the Ninja will definitely leave him alive as he was a top suspect.

I really think it's between Roxas and Majora. I could see it being Feral, but I suspect the other two a lot more.

It's Roxas, guys. All three power roles have spoken tonight, and since their actions are pointless, they should have gotten them in when they first came on. The night hasn't ended, though, and the Mafia's kill should be obvious. Of the three possible suspects, only Roxas hasn't posted.

I haven't got my night action in yet, and probably won't for another 20 hours or so.

Just to keep things interesting.

You're an ass.

I'll just ignore this forum until tommorow, then.

If this game doesn't end by Easter morning, I will blatantly get myself host-killed to end it. I have a very busy holiday ahead of me, and am sick of this game.

I'm not holding the game up. Anyone in a mafia position would let the entire night round run it's course.

Can we agree to not let Bubba influence the final round in any way? Like, just ignore that he exists? He's proven today that he'll lie in his Journalist results just to get a lynch, and he's shown he'll be deceptive to get people on the wrong track (ie referring to Apollo as "he.")

He's also shown he doesn't care about the town by pretty much forcing his vote on the town in the last round, and his actions hurt more than if he said nothing.

The ratio will be 3-1 in the next round, that's three town-sided roles and one mafia. The three town outnumber the one mafia and Journalist combined. I propose that we literally ignore everything Bubba and the Journalist article say. We don't need him anymore. His vote won't count for anything if we reach a consensus, and I'd rather an important vote like the next round's not be mislead by someone who's clearly on his own team. We should leave it up to the people actually playing with the town's best interest in mind, rather than their own.

Not intending to be harsh or personal or anything but I hope you can see that it's in our best interest to do so, Bubba :).

Just FYI, I didn't put my action in until just now. I didn't think to do so sooner because I know it's useless.

Also I think it's been way too long since we employed the coin flip curse, so I will do that right now.

Heads = Roxas is the Ninja

Well, things aren't looking too good for you, Majora. (duck)

GTX0 coin y (cry)

I thought the curse was broken a while back anyway... (:S)

Maybe it was broken. Or maybe it just needed a break. ¯\(°_o)/¯

It's impossible for me to gain any more journalist points, as the check is now useless. My credibility is also now shot. The Hindenburg article was my last hoorah as the journalist. So unless the last remaining mafia wants to contact to me and work something out, I'm most definitely on the side of the town.

I hadn't posted because I was at work and this couldn't. after the discussion towards the end of last round, I'm fairly certain that Feral is the ninja.

That being said, I still have my eye on Majora as a possibility after my big post last round.

Apparently me and Jo both visited Majora in the night. Of course that's not anything helpful...

At this point in time I have no clue who the hell to vote for.....but, I'm gonna take a stab in the dark here and vote for you Majora. I don't know what it is....but something to me screams that you are trying a bit to hard to seem like a townie. I can't really put my finger on it, but its all I have to go on....

I'm going to vote for the person who I think is undoubtedly the Ninja: Roxas. I had a relatively big post written up but it got deleted :'(. But this is a good enough recreation:

Like I said earlier, I'm fairly certain I know who the Ninja is this game. I say this because IMO it feels overwhelmingly obvious that Feral isn't the Ninja. I think Feral has been the most genuine about his actions and responses this game. Feral's been one of the most outgoing players, and outgoingness is usually a pretty strong indicator that someone is town-sided. I know in my past games as mafia, I'd be overly defensive about myself and rarely on the attack. I'd never bring attention to myself because I know that bringing attention to yourself when you're guilty will only give people more reason to examine your actions, and when you're mafia, you will make a bad play or two that people will see.

And that's the big reason why I think Roxas is the Ninja over Feral: Roxas has been sitting back and has rarely been on the offensive. Feral and I have worked our butts off trying to push the town in the right direction. Even if the end result wasn't the most favorable (though I've had my share of clearly helpful moments,) I'd say I was a driving force in the early rounds, when inactivity was a major problem and we needed someone to step up and take charge. I was literally pushing the town forward some rounds. And that's my reasoning to you for why I'm not the Ninja.

There are some things Feral has done that make me want to initially say "yes, he could be the Ninja." I think the idea that he wanted the Tracker and Watcher to be on and the person he suspected as the Serial Killer could be a point in favor of him being the Ninja (clear his name while he has the chance, if the Serial Killer didn't die.)

Take it for what you will. For me personally, the vote is between Roxas and Feral, and I feel pretty strongly that Feral isn't the Ninja. Hopefully I'm not dumb for trusting him after his actions last round, but I didn't get a mafia vibe from them. I'm really confident about this choice.

Too much typing (cry).

I'm not going to vote yet though, I still want too give Roxas a chance to respond before I make a vote, just to be on the 100% safe side. Like I said though, this seems open-and-shut from my perspective.

My reasoning for suspecting Feral is the exact opposite of Majora's, being that Feral has been TOO emotional this game. Almost as if he is going out of his way to look like a stressed out townie.

On the other hand, when I first posted my Hindenburg article, Majora initially believed me and was ready for a Hindenburg lynch.

and based on that I think I'd be willing to vote for Hindenburg.

That excerpt is from his first post after the article. Majora is too good to take a journalist article for face value.

I never got much of a read on Roxas.

For the same reason I thought he was the SK, I don't think Majora can be guilty: He was dead set on killing the Ninja, to the point of ignoring the SK.

@Bubba- I'm truly flattered you think I'm that good an actor.

I may have initially believed it to be true, but this was more me thinking it was something Apollo would do (revealing the Ninja's identity to the town in some form. She'd already killed two mafia members beforehand) than it was me believing a Journalist claim. Later in the round you'll see my opinion on the article changed drastically, to where I even stuck with my vote for Roxas instead of voting for Hindenburg because something seemed off about the situation.

I was thinking it through, and one plausible scenario was that you got in contact with Apollo, and that she decided to work together with you to lynch the Ninja and thus help her teammate. Obviously this isn't the case, but it definitely was not out of the realm of possibility :).

But yeah. I really do think Roxas has to be the Ninja. Not saying Feral is a bad player at all, but in mafia and in real life, usually there's a relatively clear distinction between when someone is being genuine and someone is lying. When someone lies, they usually leave out the subtleties that they normally wouldn't consider unless they weren't lying. When I look at Feral I see someone that's pretty genuinely a townie. I don't know how to describe that in words any better :(.

I'm a townie, I can't really prove that (nobody can prove anyone's role definitively if you want to be technical,) but I sure as hell can defend myself on that matter. But from where I sit, I'm pretty damn sure Roxas is the Ninja.

I know it's between Feral and Majora to who is the ninja. I'm one of two townie roles left, Bubba is the Journalist and Lightvayne is the watcher.

Really the only reason I have to suspect Feral is his reaction at the end of the last day round.

Majora, however, I have a few more reasons.

He's been in this position while playing Mafia and has run the table by Doug so. He plays the part so well, and making him undetectable makes him that much better of a player. He only started putting my name out last round. It makes sence since we both acknowledge each other as strong players. He'd have a much easier time lynching Hindy this round than if I was dead like he wanted. But he's been dead set on getting me out.

Now that may leave some wondering why Jo Nathan was killed instead of me, right? If he had killed me last night, it would be too obvious that he was the Ninja. But go back to what JN said when he initially put his vote in for me: He and I are usually going at each other hard for a kill in the game. One could easily use this as a circumstance against me, but why would I have waited so late in the game to take him out when it would be pointless. I'd, personally, have gone after the person who posed the biggest threat to me winning the game: Majora.

All that said, I think it is obvious who I shall cast my vote for. So help me if I am wrong.

So, we have 2 votes Majora, 2 votes Roxas, and 1 vote Feral(spoken votes, not put in yet). Unless Bubba takes his vote off me, someone will HAVE to change sides or we no lynch, leading to Vayne's death.

I honestly don't believe a word of Roxas' last reply. With three possible suspects left, it would be insane for the last Mafia to kill one of them while there are two confirmed innosents as well as a redundant neutruel role still in play. More options for lynching = better chance for Mafia to win.

BTW, who's Doug?

Lol, what position is that? And you're playing this round exactly as I would have expected you to. Yesterday you were saying you were suspicious of Feral, and this round you see a vote for me and jump at the opportunity immediately, despite not being entirely suspicious of me in the last round. You don't care to make a strong argument for which of us (Feral or myself) to lynch, you just want to go for the person that looks like they'll lose, and with Lightvayne's vote on me, that adds up quick.

But I'm taking this cautiously for a reason. You've said it yourself: you're a good player. I think what you just posted is enough to fully convince me that you're the Ninja rather than Feral. You claim that if you were mafia you'd have killed me much earlier, but wouldn't I do the same to you? You're one of the only people I can think back to that has managed to get me lynched in the past when I was a townie, and I think it was for similar reasons as you're listing here.

I think Doug was an autocorrection of "doing." Unless Doug has something he'd like to say about this.

Doug?

And I'm going to put my vote in for Roxas as well. His post just made it glaringly obvious to me that he's the Ninja, and not Feral.

I meant doing.

Being the last person left on the Mafia while sacrificing your teammates along the way with it appearing to benefit the town.

And simply because I didn't directly say it, I was suspicious of you and have been for a few rounds now.

But as it has been said, it's up to Bubba unless Feral changes his vote

Who did I sacrifice exactly? I actually adamantly defended Dooku back when he claimed Nurse and IIRC I was against Black Yoshi's lynch at first, despite not having a problem with it as the round went on. Nobody's perfect :(. You've made many similar votes anyway.

And yes, you mentioned I was suspicious last round. You mentioned Feral and Hindenburg too. You seemed more certain of Feral's guilt going into this day round than me, yet you voted for me, when I conveniently already have a vote on me.

It just seems very fishy.

Pretty confident Majora is the Ninja.

I should probably vote.....

Vote text isn't showing up in the replies, but tally shows it. Game over.

Still needs four votes to end the round. And honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Roxas contacted you telling you to switch the vote (you practically begged to team up with the mafia.) Even so, nothing's ended.

Really hoping Lightvayne sees this and switches his vote. Or at least tell me that he thinks I'm guilty over Roxas. Because in my eyes it's clear as heck that Roxas is the Ninja.

I have the power to end this. What to do...

Sorry, Majora, but I can't let this sit for three days. Nothing was going to change.

Adeu!

Oh, and since the game is over, I can finally say it...

THE FINAL MAFIA IS... not me! Sorry, Bubba, wrong this time.

Disappointed you ended it just for the sake of ending it :(. Oh well.

THE FINAL MAFIA IS... not me! Sorry, Bubba, wrong this time.

But I voted for Majora...