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day 9 you have reached your destination

Posted February 11, 2015 by Female Alpha Wolf

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As the passengers killed their last victim, Speed Bike Pro. They suddenly felt the roar of the engine descend into a soft meow. A squeaking came from the brakes as the train began to slow down. The remaining passengers couldn't believe their ears. They had made it... They were finally free from the murder train! And what better way than to celebrate? Gamble in Vegas!

Rushing and cheering off the train, they stopped instantly as they were met with a... sight. It was not the sight they had been expecting. There were no bright lights and pretty girls selling cigars and cigarettes. Instead there was nothing but a desert wasteland. And that is when they realized that they had gotten onto the wrong train.

Oh well! At least the good guys won!

The Players Club:
1) Speed Bike Pro
2) ~~hezekiah~~ Watcher
3) ~~The Bandit~~ Passenger
4) Ghowilo Gambler
5) EvilGuy0613 Passenger
6) white lancer Lover
7) ~~Hindenburg~~ Jesse James
8) ~~Lady Flare~~ Passenger
9) ~~Lightvayne~~ Eccentric Mystery Novelist
10) ~~CtR Black~~ Passenger
11) Xhin Doctor
12) ~~Pirate_Ninja~~ Passenger
13) ~~Jo Nathan~~ Bandit
14) Kyon Passenger
15) ~~Chaos Incarnate~~ Butch Cassidy
16) ~~Feral Wolf~~ Lover
17) ~~chiefsonny~~ Bill Miner

I'll do points later on since I have some stuff to do!

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Just want to say two things to the Mafia team-

1. You managed to guess my role from the start by a "subtle hint" I never actually gave. My comment about losing two townies referred to me and the player who would be killed in the night, not the other lover. I was fully aware of the role.

2. I'm saddened at how much you guys underestimated me. Chief mostly. I'm getting the feeling he doesn't like me very much anymore. Yes, I pretty much am to blame for CtR's death, and yes, Speed fooled me good, but that doesn't make me a bad player or good lynch prospect. I did pretty much single handedly start the bandwagons against both Jo and Chief.

February 11, 2015

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Feral Wolf

The Rogue Wolf

The issue isn't

The odds of being town-sided 5 games in a row

It's

The odds of being town-sided 5 games in a row given you've been town-sided 4 games in a row

You're right. We only just covered Conditional Statistics like... literally today.

February 11, 2015

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Ghowilo

I don't see Ghow as creative or patient enough to pull that off.

Ummm... Fuck you Feral, you know nothing about the inner workings of my mind.

February 11, 2015

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Ghowilo

I did pretty much single handedly start the bandwagons against both Jo and Chief.

*Ahem* I think you may have had some help in figuring those two out. ;) But I agree--I think you played well that game.

That was a lot of fun for me personally, mostly because I was engaged and I felt like I had my finger on the pulse of the game from pretty early on. Also, I managed to survive for once, and it was a close and exciting game, so yay! :) I'll read over the threads and see if there's anything interesting to comment on.

February 11, 2015

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white lancer

Posting this from the dead thread, cause I'm still not understanding how this works:

whoa whoa whoa back the freakin train up here.

I was right about Hindenburg being Mafia?
WTF? They why did my results not show him leaving or anyone coming in to his cabin like past mafia games would have?
I'm feeling like I got a bit screwed here.

In a recent past Mafia game when I was the Godfather, yes I looked innocent, but since the other mafia members had to visit me during the night to get their "directions", I eventually got found out.

I'm calling shenanigans on this. :<

This happened a few games ago. I was set as the Godfather and SDY1 was a mafia thug along with me. Even thought SDY1 was inactive pretty much the whole game, the watcher at the time saw SDY1 coming and leaving my room, so why didn't I get the same type of result when I was in Hindenburg's room on the first day?

February 11, 2015

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Lightvayne

How people 'visit' a room changes from Host to Host. I believe the way FAW did it is the most common way of doing it (at least, it's how I would do it if I was hosting): only the Mafia member who voted is counted as leaving their house during the night (unless they're the Godfather/Ninja), along with any Mafia power roles like the Silencer. The way you describe it is highly unusual and really gives too much power to roles like the Watcher IMO--I think that was a one-of game and it's not the norm.

February 11, 2015

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white lancer

New exec-host and first time game host.

They are still learning how everything works.

All things considered, I think FAW did a great job. Better then I ever did. I couldn't even finish my game! lol

February 11, 2015

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Feral Wolf

The Rogue Wolf

An idea for a new Mafia role

"Pollman" - Collects the votes from each mafia member and turns them into the godfather. Transferable

Essentially, this would make it so that when the mafia votes, only one person visits everyone else. Of course if the watcher watched ANY mafia member(excluding the Pollman), the Pollman would show up on their radar. This eliminates the chance of revealing all mafia members by watching the Godfather.

Just a thought, but figured I'd throw it out there.

February 11, 2015

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Ghowilo

I'm pretty sure I explained this already, Lightvayne.

Hindenburg was not a power role. He didn't have to leave his room to Silence anyone or hide anyone. He just voted with his Mafia members to kill people.

So he didn't leave his room, thus why I said he didn't leave his room.

And that role doesn't really make sense Ghowilo since Mafia don't leave their rooms to vote who to kill. It would make sense in a game where that was required though but that seems like it'll be confusing.

February 11, 2015

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Female Alpha Wolf

Good game everyone! So close to the end...(cry)

By the end of the game I always turn out to be suspicious due to poor choices.

February 11, 2015

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EvilGuy0613

Hmmmm.... I seem to recall it working that way at least for the Christmas mini game, it's too late to go back and look for the precedent I'm thinking about, maybe some other time. I was certain that mafia visited the godfather at night.

February 11, 2015

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Ghowilo

And that role doesn't really make sense Ghowilo since Mafia don't leave their rooms to vote who to kill. It would make sense in a game where that was required though but that seems like it'll be confusing.

Typically, the first Mafia member to cast a vote WOULD leave there room, as they are the one who does the actual killing. That is why the Godfather role exists, as he is the only Mafia who can leave their room without being seen.

The other thing to consider is that some hosts play as if the Mafia all meet up in the Godfather's room at night, but as far as I know that is optional depending on the host. It can be a major handi-cap for the Mafia games with a Watcher/Tracker.

February 11, 2015

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Feral Wolf

The Rogue Wolf

Hindenburg was not a power role. He didn't have to leave his room to Silence anyone or hide anyone. He just voted with his Mafia members to kill people.

So he didn't leave his room, thus why I said he didn't leave his room.

And I get that part, I'm just confused why I didn't see anyone else come in the room. I understand different hosts have different rules and I'm not blaming you, you did and excellent job FAW, but certain inconsistencies like that should probably be worked out within the community.

February 11, 2015

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Lightvayne

I think the confusion here FAW is lancer was thinking along the same lines as I. The mafia visits the godfather at night.

February 11, 2015

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Ghowilo

It should be consistent in every game. That really isn't the type of thing to leave up to the host IMO.

I don't really care how it is either way. I think that the Watcher might be a little OP if all the mafia leave their house every night, but idk.

February 11, 2015

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The Bandit

I think he'd be OP if all mafia visit the Godfather, in the event that he watched the Godfather, they'd all be revealed. That's why I suggested the Pollman role.

February 11, 2015

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Ghowilo

Well, that's why the Godfather is immune to those roles, so no Mafia can be spotted attending their nighly meetings. They can be seen leaving their rooms, but not entering the Godfather's.

February 11, 2015

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Feral Wolf

The Rogue Wolf

That wasn't what I was saying at all, Ghowilo. I think the way the host did it in the game Lightvayne is mentioning is very unusual and not how I would do it at all--I would only show Mafia power roles (e.g. the Silencer) moving at night, as well as the first person to vote for the kill target, but I don't think they should be shown as visiting each other (or the Godfather) unless they actually try to silence him or something. FAW did it the most common way of doing it, which is probably the correct way. There might be some confusion in that I know the Lovers have been shown to visit one another each night (or some variant thereof), but I think the game Lightvayne is talking about is the only instance in which each Mafia member visits the Godfather during the night round.

February 11, 2015

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white lancer

It would probably be good to have some default rules for the 'moving at night' question. That way, even if hosts want it to work a different way for their specific game, they can specify those differences at the beginning of their game--it preserves the freedom of the Hosts while also giving a good groundwork so the Host doesn't have to explain everything if they're just using the normal rules.

February 11, 2015

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white lancer

All in all, I think FAW did a great job hosting.

Feral and lancer, you did awesome.

Speed, you did as good as anyone could have in your situation.

Hugs for everyone.

February 12, 2015

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Jo Nathan

told you only a villain would argue toilet paper should be hung that way...

February 12, 2015

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Pirate_Ninja

next game when

February 13, 2015

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The Bandit

When FAW has a chance to post scores, I guess.

February 13, 2015

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Feral Wolf

The Rogue Wolf

^ This.

I'll post sign-ups either after FAW gets a chance to post scores or, like, in a day or two.

February 13, 2015

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Speed Bike Pro

Alright now that I'm not running around like a chicken with my head cut off, I can sit down and make scores now.

1) Speed Bike Pro +1 (good playing)
2) hezekiah +2 (Winning team, Early death)
3) The Bandit +1 (Winning team)
4) Ghowilo +3.5 (Winning team, Surviving, Good playing, Guessed white lancer would die but he was saved so I mean he was like half right...)
5) EvilGuy0613 +1 (Winning team)
6) white lancer +3 (Winning team, Surviving, Good playing)
7) Hindenburg
8) Lady Flare +1 (Winning team)
9) Lightvayne +1 (I liked your stories)
10) CtR Black +2 (Winning team, Early death)
11) Xhin +2 (Winning team, Surviving)
12) Pirate_Ninja +1 (Winning team)
13) Jo Nathan +1 (Good playng)
14) Kyon +1 (Winning team)
15) Chaos Incarnate
16) Feral Wolf +1 (winning team)
17) chiefsonny +1 (good playing)

Host: -9084349053

anyone have a problem with the scores you can ~~fight me in real life~~ lemme know but I think this is pretty fair.

February 14, 2015

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Female Alpha Wolf

No, I am not remotely happy. How did I not get good playing points when I led the charge against two Mafias and co-led the town in the second half the game? What the Hell is the point of playing the game when EVERYBODY wants to ignore my playing? It's completely disheartening.

Jo got good playing points when he was barely active for God sake!

Also, players who are host killed(Kyon) are not allowed any points. The host kill invalidates any.

This really is a major buzzkill...

February 14, 2015

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Feral Wolf

The Rogue Wolf

Maybe I am over-reacting a little bit, since it IS just points in a game, but my ego is badly bruised. It's heartbreaking when you work your ass off, and KNOW you did a good job at what you did, only to be told by everybody that your effort was nothing special worth about as much as your co-worker who never even bothered showing up. Hard to have fun when nobody wants to acknowledged you. There is no accomplishment or satisfaction at all.

February 14, 2015

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Feral Wolf

The Rogue Wolf

You led the charge against chief. Who was the second mafia person?

February 14, 2015

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The Bandit

Regardless, Feral is much more deserving of a good playing point than Ghowilo, who seemed to do nothing except confuse the Town for half the game and then vote a lot.

February 14, 2015

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The Bandit

Jo was.

February 14, 2015

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Feral Wolf

The Rogue Wolf

I figured I missed something. My bad. Have a point. And I had written in that point for Kyon but I meant to delete it after thinking about the host kill thing.

Jeez sorry.

February 14, 2015

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Female Alpha Wolf

Holy shit guys chill out.

February 14, 2015

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Ghowilo

I'm totally calm and don't give a shit either way. She asked for criticism, I offered some.

Also, I'm pretty sure getting host killed is -1? And a ban from the next game? I'm not sure, the rule page on scores doesn't seem to really apply anymore.

February 14, 2015

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The Bandit

jfc at least you got to play

February 14, 2015

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Pirate_Ninja

Mafia

day 9 you have reached your destination

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