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day three nay then in bacon

Posted April 28, 2013 by `Roxas`

The town watched as Dooku and Helius went back and forth in their arguments, but the town wasn't certain until Majora backed up Dooku's argument with a vote for Helius. As FAW submitted the twelfth and final vote, Helius' fate was sealed.

With a smug look on his face, Dooku kicked the chair out from underneath Helius. The Godfather was dead.

1. chiefsonny
2. Count Dooku
3. hezekiah
4. Kyon
5. Vandy
6. Pirate_Ninja
7. Feral
8. Black Yoshi
9. Helius - Godfather
10. white lancer
11. Jo Nathan
12. The Bandit
13. MajorasMask9
14. Female Alpha Wolf
15. Castrael
16. Apollo J-Money
17. Speed Bike Pro
18. Hindenburg

Ratio:

143

Townie (x11), The Governor, The Commissioner, The Dragon, Mafioso, Godson (x2)

24 hours or until all Night Actions are in.

There are 96 Replies


1. Commissioner Check
2. Mafia Kill
3. Dragon Kill
4. Power Packs/Skill Sets

April 28, 2013
`Roxas`

As the little town awoke
Well, all but one bloke
They searched high and low
Wondering where he'd go
With bites from dogs
And his bed with the hogs
All wrapped in bacon
Is the Townie Jo Nathan

1. chiefsonny
2. Count Dooku
3. hezekiah
4. Kyon
5. Vandy
6. Pirate_Ninja
7. Feral
8. Black Yoshi
9. Helius - Godfather
10. white lancer
11. Jo Nathan - Townie
12. The Bandit
13. MajorasMask9
14. Female Alpha Wolf
15. Castrael
16. Apollo J-Money
17. Speed Bike Pro
18. Hindenburg

Ratio:

133

Townie (x10), The Governor, The Commissioner, The Dragon, Mafioso, Godson (x2)

72 hours or 11 votes for the same option.

April 29, 2013
`Roxas`

That's very interesting, time to go see if Jo Nathan made any observations that would make him a Mafia target.

For the record, Jo told me via PM that he was a townie last night. *Apparently* he tried to burn Hindenburg's house down to prove his innocence.

Odd that the host hasn't made note of it, though. Perhaps he was making the arsonist part up.

April 29, 2013
Count Dooku

Day three, not two.

Nice job with the lynch yesterday, my hunches have been off lately.

April 29, 2013
hezekiah

He can't try to burn down a house if he's dead by the time that act would be done.

April 29, 2013
`Roxas`

Day three, not two.

Thank you.

April 29, 2013
`Roxas`

He can't try to burn down a house if he's dead by the time that act would be done.

Ah, quite right. Power packs went last in the order of things.

Well, looking back there wasn't much.

Jo Nathan agreed with me, for the most part.

Jo Nathan was suspicious of MM9 at one point in Day 1.

Jo Nathan was a relatively early vote for Helius during Day 2, before it looked like he was going to be lynched.

---

On another note, do any of our power packs have results to reveal? A sensor result would be wonderful.

April 29, 2013
Count Dooku

I always liked Jo Nathan, very nice man, always fed my dogs on the way to school.

April 29, 2013
Kyon

I wonder why Hindenburg is being targeted so much...?

April 29, 2013
Speed Bike Pro
 

Because he's the town jester.

April 29, 2013
Kyon

We have an excellent cushion right now--a 10-person lead means we won't be in a mislynch-or-lose scenario until day 7 at the latest, and that's assuming we lynch a Townie every single day. We've also got about 5 people that I'm tentatively considering innocent, though I think only Dooku is 100% confirmed (on that note, I don't think Hindenburg was the best target for Jo anyway since we already have at least some reason to think he might be innocent).

The question we need to answer now is what to do with that cushion. As I see it, we have two options: we can play aggressively, pushing for lynches in the hopes of getting lucky or gaining information, or we can take it slow and wait for info from the Commissioner. There's not a clear best choice; I don't really have anyone on my radar as of now, so playing aggressive for me would mean taking a complete shot in the dark right now, but we also have to remember that Innocent Commissioner verdicts aren't all that helpful since the Godsons could always have a Godfather power pack.

April 29, 2013
white lancer

Gollies, I would love to concoct some fantastic strategies with you guys but, you see... I have slight memory problems, and I'm having trouble grasping the millions of potential power roles that come from these wizard packs. I'll let you know if I happen to get the Dairy Queen employee power pack for the night, though!

April 29, 2013
Speed Bike Pro
 

Hell we don't need any strategies. We have power packs. Talk about dumbing down a game.

April 29, 2013
chiefsonny
 

We need to figure out the Mafioso first, Dooks. We can't have random killings at night. If you think we should have the cop investigate Nathan's death?

April 29, 2013
Castrael

The journal that morning had an article from a budding journalist that read:

"I apologize for withholding this information, fellow Townies, but I didn't know how the gosh diddly darned heck this power pack stuff worked and I still pretty much don't.

I am an eager young journalist, and on the first night, I scoped out MM9's house. Black Yoshi snooped around first, entering MM9's home and copping a feel of his firm, tender, sleeping buttock. I know not what else he did, because at that point I began undoing my pants and everything else is a blur.

However, before I left, I also saw White Lancer on the premises. Keep your wits about you, gentlemen. Black and White may very well turn out red.

-Anonymous"

(Apologies for the erm, sensual details, but that's how it was written...)

April 29, 2013
Trever Leingod

There's not a clear best choice; I don't really have anyone on my radar as of now, so playing aggressive for me would mean taking a complete shot in the dark right now, but we also have to remember that Innocent Commissioner verdicts aren't all that helpful since the Godsons could always have a Godfather power pack.

I have mixed feelings. If we play too aggressively, townies are likely going to die before we get results.

If we play conservatively and no kill, it gives our commissioner extra time to possibly get a guilty verdict. The issue here is that we could spend several days no killing (while the mafia pick us off) only to have the Commissioner killed before we get results.

I say we weigh our options day-by-day. Lynch if we have suspicion, like with Helius, but delay with a no kill if we don't have much.

Also, anyone with a sensor pack should send me a notification so I can announce that the town has one (and we can figure out who to lynch so we get results).

(on that note, I don't think Hindenburg was the best target for Jo anyway since we already have at least some reason to think he might be innocent).

I was... really very alarmed that he targeted Hindenburg. Especially when there was some possibility that Hindenburg was the Commissioner. I'd say we're fortunate it didn't play out as it could have.

April 29, 2013
Count Dooku

That confirms the innocence of a particular individual in my mind.

April 29, 2013
Speed Bike Pro
 

@the journalist article

April 29, 2013
Speed Bike Pro
 

The Journalist is so obvious, it's hilarious.

April 29, 2013
Kyon

I am an eager young journalist, and on the first night, I scoped out MM9's house. Black Yoshi snooped around first, entering MM9's home and copping a feel of his firm, tender, sleeping buttock. I know not what else he did, because at that point I began undoing my pants and everything else is a blur.

This is... interesting. By 'first night', I'm assuming Night 0. MM9 is a popular guy for spying on.

April 29, 2013
Count Dooku

I'm also wondering how Dooku avoids getting killed at night.

Hmmm.

April 29, 2013
chiefsonny
 

Potion Pack – Gives the player the ability to save a person from death. The player will be notified at night by the Wizard of who will die the next morning but will not be told of how they would die, and will be given the choice of saving them rather than randomly guessing who to protect. This pack will only occur once during the game, and it has a very low probability of occurrence.

Please note us hosts agreed to the above change to the original pack details... originally only Mafia-based kills would have been reported but that makes the Potion pack, however rare, just too darn good.

April 29, 2013
Trever Leingod

I'm also wondering how Dooku avoids getting killed at night.

Hmmm.

{fp} Really?

April 29, 2013
Count Dooku

im mafia

April 29, 2013
Kyon

Damn, my suspicions are off this game. I think it has to do with the fact that I have a recital fast approaching, and my sleep patterns have been worse than Xhin's lately. Anyhoo, either Kyon just gave himself away or he's just being himself and joking around. Either is equally likely at this point, though I'm far more inclined, obviously, toward the former.

That said, that Journalist article has narrowed down our Mafia search immensely.

April 29, 2013
Black Yoshi

why you all gotta watch my house huh???

April 29, 2013
MajorasMask9

im mafia

me too.

April 29, 2013
chiefsonny
 

Well I used a Spy Pack last night and this was the last thing said in the Mafia thread and I quote from a quote:

"STOP LOOKING AT ME."

Take from that what you will but I have an idea...

April 29, 2013
Female Alpha Wolf

Take from that what you will but I have an idea...


Let's here it(hug)


April 29, 2013
chiefsonny
 

Well I used a Spy Pack


Boy, wish I had a toy.

April 29, 2013
chiefsonny
 

I'm also wondering how Dooku avoids getting killed at night.

I'm actually still waiting on an explanation of this from Chiefsonny, because it makes no sense whatsoever.

April 29, 2013
Count Dooku

Even though most people are going to pass off Kyon and chief's remarks as humorous ramblings, I actually suspect both of them to be mafia. If anyone suspects a 3rd person, maybe we can wrap this up early and get back to a normal game.

April 29, 2013
Speed Bike Pro
 

I feel the person who said that was a jokester... and there are only a few jokesters here... (duck)

April 29, 2013
Female Alpha Wolf

I'm actually still waiting on an explanation of this from Chiefsonny, because it makes no sense whatsoever.


Just trying to get the town all stirred up. That's what I'm supposed to do. Nothing personal.

April 29, 2013
chiefsonny
 

Even though most people are going to pass off Kyon and chief's remarks as humorous ramblings, I actually suspect both of them to be mafia. If anyone suspects a 3rd person, maybe we can wrap this up early and get back to a normal game.


Now theres a man after my own heart. A man that enjoys a GOOD game.

April 29, 2013
chiefsonny
 

Just trying to get the town all stirred up. That's what I'm supposed to do. Nothing personal.

... I'm hovering over the button to vote for you, but I don't understand what you're up to.

April 29, 2013
Count Dooku

Just trying to get the town all stirred up. That's what I'm supposed to do. Nothing personal.

A very poor attempt to divert the town's attention to other things, no doubt.

You are trying awfully hard this round to mingle with the townies despite minimal posting in earlier rounds. Nothing is a dead giveaway so I won't blame anyone for not believing me, but your behavior is telegraphing a secret mafia identity to me.

April 29, 2013
Speed Bike Pro
 

Well damn, the vote counter's not reset.

April 29, 2013
chiefsonny
 

It's okay, Dooku... Listen to your heart... See, he wants death anyways. RIP, chief.

April 29, 2013
Speed Bike Pro
 

a secret mafia identity to me.


Secret, Secret.

"im mafia"

"me too."

Nothing secret about that. And when this games over and you read the threads, it will put things in perspective.

April 29, 2013
chiefsonny
 

So... what? You and Kyon are throwing the game?

April 29, 2013
Count Dooku

Nothing secret about that. And when this games over and you read the threads, it will put things in perspective.

Okay... So... Yeah, that's a definite admission of guilt for both Kyon and chief. I guess we can throw darts at a board to determine the final mafia person or something.

April 29, 2013
Speed Bike Pro
 

Well that's kinda lame.

Why Chief?

Was it the power packs? :(

April 29, 2013
Female Alpha Wolf

So... what? You and Kyon are throwing the game?


Throwing the game. This game was fucked up from day one. 14-4 and the town has 10 Power Packs. Talk about one side being overpowered.

The Mafia has 3 good skill sets, used 2 of the best ones last night. Guess what. They didn't work.

And why are you whining. 13 townies will get their points for wining.

And don't tell me as a ex-host, you could not see how one sided this game was.

April 29, 2013
chiefsonny
 

Do I still get exceptional playing points for accusing Kyon and chief even though they threw in the towel? (look)

April 29, 2013
Speed Bike Pro
 

I guess we can throw darts at a board to determine the final mafia person or something.


I doubt that. That person is not happy at the one sided power that the town has.

April 29, 2013
chiefsonny
 

Yeah... I kinda agree with chief. I thought it was kidna ridiculous. Cuz even though we're regular TOwnies we still have the chance to get Power Packs to get some actual power. Times that by the amount of Townies we have...

April 29, 2013
Female Alpha Wolf

This game was fucked up from day one. 14-4 and the town has 10 Power Packs. Talk about one side being overpowered.

By my understanding, all the townies aren't given power packs. We have 10 -possible- power packs, and during the night round a few are possibly handed out...

Plus the Mafia seemed to have potential. Assassin pack, janitor pack.

April 29, 2013
Count Dooku

Dooku is correct. And when you take into account the inclusion of packs like Movie Goer and Outsider that don't actually benefit us, you are somewhat exaggerating the power of our packs. Only somewhat, though. I agree with the mafia's gripes to an extent.

April 29, 2013
Speed Bike Pro
 

"Why Chief?"

"Was it the power packs? :("

Yes, it made one side way overpowered.

Look I lovethe Mafia game, that's why I'd rather play than host and why I've played in every game.

I've been town sided
I've been mafia
I've been 3rd party. Gambler, Lover{fp}

But I've never see a game so much onesided.

So why drag it. The town can't lose. So get the most points you can get and let's play a real mafia game. Hell, even Dooku's Aliens was better than this and as a Alien I lost. But at least it was fun.

You guys can win this in 3 days. We won't be making anymore night kills unless we vote to off each other.

April 29, 2013
chiefsonny
 

Soooo... Is this game over? I don't think its fair to leave their last team member kinda high and dry for the rest of the game.

April 29, 2013
Female Alpha Wolf

Plus the Mafia seemed to have potential. Assassin pack, janitor pack.


Had 2 Assassin Packs last night. No kills from either one.

And you guys don't have to vote us out. We can keep playing.

April 29, 2013
chiefsonny
 

I actually thought the mafia had a decent enough chance to win this from the start. But Dooku's psychic powers eliminated the biggest role of all after two rounds and now Kyon and chief have turned themselves in for questioning after my intensive investigating (right guys). So, it kinda snowballed from "maybe the town having a power advantage" to "hello we are the mafia pleased to meet you" in a matter of one round.

April 29, 2013
Speed Bike Pro
 

I don't think its fair to leave their last team member kinda high and dry for the rest of the game.


I will not say who that person is. After Kyon made his post and I knew he was serious about not being happy with the way the game was set up, than I made my claim.

April 29, 2013
chiefsonny
 

now Kyon and chief have turned themselves in for questioning after my intensive investigating (right guys).


And a good job you did.{y}

April 29, 2013
chiefsonny
 

Has anyone even noticed how quiet Hindy has been? He's much more talkative around Speed.

I am an eager young journalist, and on the first night, I scoped out MM9's house. Black Yoshi snooped around first, entering MM9's home and copping a feel of his firm, tender, sleeping buttock. I know not what else he did, because at that point I began undoing my pants and everything else is a blur.


Yoshi and Lancer, I'm keeping an eye on. I don't think chief is Mafia. and Kyon's definitely joking.

April 29, 2013
Castrael

I honestly don't see why either would lie unless this was some super intense plot....

Doubt it.

April 29, 2013
Female Alpha Wolf

Don't worry, we have no reason to suspect Hindy.

April 29, 2013
Speed Bike Pro
 

And yeah, you are thinking about this too hard. Kyon and chief are mafia. We just have to find the final member.

April 29, 2013
Speed Bike Pro
 

And just let me say this.

With 18 people signed up to play and `Roxas` hosting this could have been one helluva fun game.

No power pack or skill sets.

12 Townies

2 3rd party

4 Mafia

Could have been great. And I hope the next game will have the numbers and a great game setup.

April 29, 2013
chiefsonny
 

I honestly don't see why either would lie unless this was some super intense plot....


Because, I'd like to think that Chief could be a Godson. They're saving the Mafioso's life. But, that's just me thinking too much. I just wanna hope they're pulling are leg or something.

I also don't like how there are a lot Power Packs. It wouldn't be fair.

April 29, 2013
Castrael

*our

April 29, 2013
Castrael

Oh, and another by the way, just in case you think I'm just pissed about my role (I Love being Mafai by the way in a normal game).

Even our Executive Host had concerns about the Power packs giving the town to much power and making it hard for the Mafia to get a night kill.

April 29, 2013
chiefsonny
 

My favorite game was prob Feral's game and Dooku's game was definitely interesting. Those are the only games I remember though. But, if we end the game early, maybe a restart or we could just keep playing, but it wouldn't be fair to the last Mafia that's standing.

April 29, 2013
Castrael

Hmm... Yoshi seems to have visited Majora two nights(0 +1) in a row. Either he was incredibly lucky to have gotten two packs in a row or he has a permanent power. Majora seemed to have no strange effects in day 1 or 2, so whatever Yoshi did was unsucsessful both times.

Something else. By day 2, 4 packs had been given out. I have my potion and the confirmed innosent Dooku had his medkit. We have two claimed Journalists. We have two perma-powers with potential night action, one of whom(TheDragon) we know hasn't acted. If both journalists can be trusted, we have three individuals moving at night for unknown reasons: Yoshi, Hindenberg, and Lancer. I'm guessing that Lancer was the Journalist from Day 2. If Yoshi was the Cop, I can't imagine why he would visit the same person twice. At this point, I am asuming that me and Lancer recieved our packs on night 2, while Dooku got his on night one, along with the Journalist from today. Yoshi can NOT be that Journalist since he wouldn't report seeing himself, so today's Journalist must be Hinden.

Therfor, Yoshi has to be a Godson! Will put in my vote when I am on my laptop tonight.

April 29, 2013
Feral

^^{fp}

April 29, 2013
chiefsonny
 

Guess I should have read the whole thread before posting. Didn't realize it was blown. But yeah, I'm 99% certain that Yoshi is the last Mafia.

April 29, 2013
Feral

I'd like to think that Yoshi, Chief, and Lancer could be Mafia as well.

April 29, 2013
Castrael

Can't speak for Kyon, but I doubt Chief is lying. It explains the anger he showed toward the hosts in his Mafia discussion post in the mod forum a few days ago.

April 29, 2013
Feral

Was waiting to reveal until later, but since it appears that my ass is on the grill, I'm actually the Commissioner. I didn't visit anyone on Night 0, but I did visit Majora on Night 1 and got an Innocent verdict. I investigated Speed last night-round and got a Guilty. Hmmm...

April 29, 2013
Black Yoshi

DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNN omg plz don't kill me ahhuuuuu~

J/K, I'm innocent. I will gladly invite you into my home to investigate me again tonight while the conditions are... more favorable to me... bweheh...

April 29, 2013
Speed Bike Pro
 

Has anyone even noticed how quiet Hindy has been?


Laughing. Hard.

I'm not joking by the way. I've discussed it with other playing members are we all came up with the consensus that this game had too much shit in it and how we wanted it to end.

I joked about role claiming in the mafia thread, but after that Assassin fail bullshit I was so done.

April 29, 2013
Kyon

*AND

April 29, 2013
Kyon

I'm willing to bet Yoshi is lying to save his butt.

Three reasons Speed is innosent in my eyes-

1. Yoshi was seen at Majora's on night 0. Can't see why the journalist would lie.

2. Only one Mafia voted for a kill by the end of night 1, obviously Dooku's rival, Helius. Speed is notorious for his impatients and wouldn't have not voted.

3. Speed and Kyon are very close freinds. I can't see Kyon throwing in the towel and Speed not following suit.

April 29, 2013
Feral

There is a scenario in which both I can be innocent and Black Yoshi can be the commissioner, which I believe is the case. He isn't lying.

April 29, 2013
Speed Bike Pro
 

Well, if by chance, Yoshi isn't lying, then the last Mafia is 100% White Lancer, the second individual named in what would have to have been a phony journalist report from last night. The only reason The Mafia would fake a Journalist report is to make one of their own seem innosent. Using both Yoshi and Majora's names would have been to add to the suspicion already on them.

This would mean that Speed(Outsider) and FAW(Spy)were gifted last night.

April 29, 2013
Feral

I got my gift during Night 0. I just decided to use it.

April 29, 2013
Female Alpha Wolf

good to know we pack up our toys and go home all pouty-like

10/10 starter experience

April 29, 2013
Pirate_Ninja

impatients

April 29, 2013
Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

FAW, PN, and Hindenburg all posted within the same minute. Confirmed for mafia. I'll get the firing squad.

April 29, 2013
Speed Bike Pro
 

Perfect! Thanks, FAW, you just ended the game. Since we now know who all the packs from the first two nights went to(Dooku-medkit, FAW-Spy, Feral-Potion, Hindenberg-Journalist), we know for certain that the jounalist report claming to be from night 0 was indeed fake, making Lancer the 100% final Mafia.

Come to think of it, Chief did say that the executive host was unhappy with the packs, which I don't recall him saying in the mod forum thread.

April 29, 2013
Feral

First off, I didn't write this day thread, Roxas did - so even if the Assassin skills sets were used by Mafia, it would have been Roxas to overlook their usage. Secondly, the Assassin skill set is used just the way it always has been - you have to take a guess at the victim's role and no guesses were made, thus they weren't officially used. So essentially, Roxas not applying the powers was correct.

April 29, 2013
Trever Leingod

I'm with Feral on this one. Lancer has to be the Mafioso. Chief a Godson. and then, Yoshi the other Godson (unsure though)

April 29, 2013
Castrael

Speed already alibied Yoshi. Kyon is likely the other Godson.

April 29, 2013
Feral

Forgot to reset the table before this round, so if you have voted, please revote.

Throwing the game. This game was fucked up from day one. 14-4 and the town has 10 Power Packs. Talk about one side being overpowered.

Firstly, you're making it seem like everybody gets a pack every night, when only four townies do. Second, this isn't the first time a game has had that wide of a margin. If there were a 5-13 or 6-12 ratio, the game would only last a few rounds.

Had 2 Assassin Packs last night. No kills from either one.

Yes, and the reason for the lack of kills from them were from user errors.

April 29, 2013
`Roxas`

Kyon/chiefsonny/white lancer are the Mafia. Done, wrap it up, etc, whatever. Town wins, I'll take my points now.

April 29, 2013
Speed Bike Pro
 

Actually no, I'm not sold on white lancer. But Kyon and chief are 100% mafia. Just vote them off and get it over with.

April 29, 2013
Speed Bike Pro
 

nyah

April 29, 2013
Kyon

We should just reset the game and let Roxas host it solo... I'll bow out a few games.

April 29, 2013
Trever Leingod

And now we will fight to the death over who dies first.

April 29, 2013
Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

poo

It's also worth noting that there are a handful of participants who haven't contributed at all. No one from the active bunch jumps out at me, perhaps the final mafia is one of those more quiet people.

April 29, 2013
Speed Bike Pro
 

Well, fuck me for not having all of the mafia roles memorized. I assumed assassin was a mafia vigilante. Thanks for clearing it up AFTER the fact though. That's really goddamn helpful.

I know it sucks being a regular townie and all, but they're there for a reason. Trying to remove that suckage kills the game. Always. If you can't have fun just trying to guess who the mafia are (you know, actually playing the game), then don't play. We have never done a game with a zillion chances at power roles that wasn't complete shit.

April 29, 2013
The Bandit

Okay, I guess The Bandit is the last mafia then. I'll take my points on a silver platter please.

April 29, 2013
Speed Bike Pro
 

wtf I'm not mafia. You're sounding PRETTY suspicious.

April 29, 2013
The Bandit

Jesus Christ, I don't know why you guys think Lancer is Mafia.

Suspected Bandit after he tried to nudge Helius over no-kill hill on the second day, but that wasn't enough until now.

Kyon, Bandit, Chiefsonny.

Personally... I'd almost just rather have the hosts meet in their thread and call the game. If the mafia have really revealed themselves, we should just start over. Don't drag this out any longer than it has to be dragged.

April 29, 2013
Count Dooku

I just said I'm not mafia. What more do you want?

April 29, 2013
The Bandit

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