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Posted September 24, 2014 by Helius

Sorry, had to restart because PN was off of the list!

But you find yourself... dead! Isn't that like temporary here?

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Feral, please welcome: Chief and Lancer!

September 30, 2014
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Helius

Wow, silenced one round and killed the next. Guess I wasn't meant to play this one, huh. I wouldn't have had much time due to being out of town for a wedding all weekend and then moving the rest of the time, so I didn't mind being silenced, but I was hoping to play once things settled down in the next few days or so...oh, well. Somebody's gotta die first.

September 30, 2014
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white lancer

It is unfortunate; however, you can add your speculations here!

September 30, 2014
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Helius

Please welcome Count Dooku to the land of the dead!

October 1, 2014
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Helius

Mafia are picking off power players it seems :/ Suspect Bandit will be among the next to go.

October 1, 2014
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Count Dooku

Please welcome CtR Black!

October 1, 2014
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Helius

Ah, justice.

October 1, 2014
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Count Dooku

Ah, justice.

:p

I was thinking you were the journalist, but hey you had a pretty useful townie role so I'm not mad

October 1, 2014
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CtR Black

But anyways, the marksman doesn't do anything at night, not even communicate with the other mafia members. So unless I've missed something, that journalist thing was bs. happy the guard took the kill so they don't get points.

October 1, 2014
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CtR Black

Were you the first to vote for the Mafia kill? Because I believe that gets you seen.

Also, I think each mafia member is seen 'leaving' their house at night. So the journalist could have seen you out and about, and just assumed/lied about you being Mafia.

But eh. Special club was just me and one other person. It would have been nice to strategize but... we're both townies essentially.

October 2, 2014
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Count Dooku

I was the Marksman before the game was restarted. They don't even have access to the Mafia thread, so they have nothing to do with the Nightkill. Not sure why they would be shown as leaving their house during the night as they have no night actions. He certainly wouldn't have had any reason to visit chief last night, which is literally the only way the Journalist could have had a real idea that CtR was Mafia (if they staked out chief and saw CtR visit) rather than any other power role...which is why I would have been hesitant to believe them until CtR kinda panicked a little.

October 2, 2014
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white lancer

I think this game is going to be pretty chaotic. The Journalist seems like they're going to do and say whatever pleases them. The town has complete trust in the journalist, which could work in favor for either side. However, I'm also thinking the guard trusts the journalist. The guard may have already decided to kill me after only reading the article, so that may be good for the mafia.

I think MM9 may be mafia. He jumped on my vote pretty quick after the article came out. It would have been pretty advantageous of him to do so if there were a chance of me being mafia, since a lot of people don't really seem to know how the marksman role works.

October 2, 2014
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CtR Black

Well, it is going to be pretty chaotic, and I imagine that we'll see that with tomorrow.

October 3, 2014
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Helius

Please welcome Speed Bike Pro to the afterlife!

October 4, 2014
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Helius

just two more town-sided kills!

I'm kinda leaning toward Roxas being mafia

October 4, 2014
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CtR Black

Please welcome Castrael!

And I expect to see Kyon in here pretty soon.

October 6, 2014
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Helius

Wow, what a waste Kyon.

October 6, 2014
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Castrael

Damn, we're blowing it.

October 6, 2014
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Count Dooku

I agree and now, Apollo suddenly shows herself. :/

October 6, 2014
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Castrael

Hey guys.... hoo boy.... how about that Game of Thrones episode last night......

lol

hey Cas. I feel strongly responsible for you death, due to the whole "Cas has a history of targeting Dooku whenever she has any kind of killing power." Bandit post.

October 6, 2014
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CtR Black

gee i wonder who could be mafia

October 6, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Apollo was actually silenced the other day so that's why we didn't hear from her.

October 6, 2014
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Helius

I keep forgetting Silencer is in play. :/ Sorry

Goddamnit cas stop saying shit like


It's a game. We're supposed to cast suspicion on other players.

:( I forgive you. I actually know the whole reason so you're safe.

October 6, 2014
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Castrael

Btw, that was at CtR Black.

October 6, 2014
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Castrael

I hope Roxas seriously just threw the entire mafia under the bus. I love me some good ol' spite, baby.

October 7, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

`Roxas` is now joining the eternal fraternity of the dead.

October 7, 2014
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Helius

Why do you say that, Speed?

October 7, 2014
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Castrael

Because I want them to die and I shall delight in watching their murder.

October 7, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

And I think it's hilarious that a crew of people using the typical "so busy irl" excuse would be undone by someone backstabbing them.

October 7, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

I don't think he threw anybody, but maybe Apollo, under the bus. He said Jo was silenced, that they were killing marjora tonight, and other stuffs

October 7, 2014
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CtR Black

I just read the thread and yeah, he threw some of the Mafia plans out there and I don't see how he threw Apollo under the bus though.

After last game, chief had to leave early. Speed is hit and miss.

To
I think chief was killed earlier due to his last game. One of the Mafia members prob wanted revenge. - Sep 30. Night 2


I was right about this in the beginning of the game. I was a bit confused with Ghowilo but I also had my eye on Roxas as well.

October 7, 2014
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Castrael

Oh, Nathan too. He's on my list of suspects. I could be wrong though.

  • Nathan
  • Ghowilo

    • October 7, 2014
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    Castrael

    He said they silenced Nathan. and I donno how ghowilo plays, but he seems innocent to me.

    October 7, 2014
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    CtR Black

    I think it's his first time so I have no idea.

    He said they silenced Nathan.


    That makes sense. Honestly, I didn't know there was a Silencer role. I tend to stay away from it.

    October 7, 2014
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    Castrael

    I actually didn't throw any of my teammates under the bus, but casting shadows of doubt on townies is fun.

    Initially when you said that Cas, I was worried you were going to come after me.

    But most of my goodbye post is true. MOST

    October 7, 2014
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    `Roxas`

    whatever

    October 8, 2014
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    Speed Bike Pro
     

    Initially when you said that Cas, I was worried you were going to come after me.


    I was going to, but Ghowilo kept putting suspicion on me.

    I give thumb ups to Majora's reaction to my death though. <3

    October 8, 2014
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    Castrael

    It was either you or Flare, and we felt you were the bigger threat.

    October 8, 2014
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    `Roxas`

    Can you tell me in a Spoiler if Ghowilo is Mafia or not? I think he's Townie but had to be sure. I would have voted for you if I had the back up. But, I got so annoyed that I just didn't care anymore.

    October 9, 2014
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    Castrael

    Please welcome Jo Nathan and the Bandit!

    October 9, 2014
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    Helius

    lol

    October 9, 2014
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    Jo Nathan

    Nice one, Granny! I was curious about Nathan

    October 9, 2014
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    Castrael

    Pretty clear at this point that the Mafia are targeting players they perceive to be an asset to the town.

    I wish we could play under assumed names because of stuff like this.

    October 9, 2014
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    Count Dooku

    I wish we could play under assumed names because of stuff like this.


    Post as our role instead of our names?

    October 9, 2014
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    Castrael

    Cas- I really did think you were mafia at first, but I'm glad I came to my senses and withdrew my vote for you. In case it wasn't clear, the serial killer should technically want to kill mafia just as much as the town does, because the serial killer loses with the town if the ratio tips in the mafia's favor. I basically view myself as a vigilante, except I have to kill the town afterwards.

    Roxas- as soon as I saw I was silenced, I figured either you or Majora had to be mafia. I also suspected chief and then remembered that he's dead already.

    The Bandit- I was pretty sure you were innocent and was screaming at my monitor for everyone to stop voting for you. I'd like to think that you survived that day round because everyone heard me...

    Not gonnna lie - I'm pleased with my intuition this game because I'm usually dead wrong about everything. I think I'm finally able to get good reads on people, and it only took me, what, 20 games? (duck)

    October 9, 2014
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    Jo Nathan

    Post as our role instead of our names?

    Well no, not as your role. That would defeat the purpose of the game.

    Ideally you'd have a system that assigns everyone a name mask from some list.

    Failing that, the ability to set your own name would be cool. But the assumed name needs to not show up under your account, or mods can figure out who's who anyway.

    I think it'd mix up the game quite a bit. No more '___ has a history of ___ as ___'. No more 'Lets kill ___ on round 1 because they're a good player.'

    October 9, 2014
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    Count Dooku

    Oh, I think get where you're coming from.

    Adding some suggestions; wouldn't it be better if we all just created a new alt name for the sole person of Mafia then?

    October 9, 2014
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    Castrael

    I really did think you were mafia at first, but I'm glad I came to my senses and withdrew my vote for you. In case it wasn't clear, the serial killer should technically want to kill mafia just as much as the town does, because the serial killer loses with the town if the ratio tips in the mafia's favor. I basically view myself as a vigilante, except I have to kill the town afterwards.


    I haven't been Mafia in the longest time or even a power role.

    October 9, 2014
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    Castrael

    *reason. not person. damn typos.

    October 9, 2014
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    Castrael

    Adding some suggestions; wouldn't it be better if we all just created a new alt name for the sole person of Mafia then?

    No. Mods can easily verify alt names. Would require some work on Xhin's part.

    October 9, 2014
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    Count Dooku

    Also, it's pretty difficult to disguise your posting style as well. The simple way you talk online may be enough to give you away in spite of a name change.

    October 9, 2014
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    Speed Bike Pro
     

    Eh, that's not as big of an issue.

    Some of the folks who make huge posts might have that occur. And moreover, you can consciously modify your style to keep under cover.

    October 9, 2014
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    Count Dooku

    Some of the folks who make huge posts might have that occur. And moreover, you can consciously modify your style to keep under cover.


    Yeah, I'll see a lot people do that; Majora, Dooku, etc. Just to throw some examples out there. I'll try to do that as well, but it's hard. Especially when I'm Mafia... :/

    But anyway, back on topic. I think it's find having our names as it is. It'll cause a lot of confusion for someone.

    I thought "Epic Mafia" was one of your ideas, Dooku.

    October 9, 2014
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    Castrael

    *fine

    October 9, 2014
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    Castrael

    I agree it's easy enough to disguise one's posting style. It just requires a bit of effort.

    YOU'LL NEVER GUESS WHO I AM, CHUMPS

    October 9, 2014
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    Mystery Person

    Well, I thought for sure Flare would have joined us last night after the set up I made for my fellows. :/

    And yeah, I figured Jo, I figured.

    October 9, 2014
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    `Roxas`

    YOU'LL NEVER GUESS WHO I AM, CHUMPS

    Jo Nathan plz

    October 10, 2014
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    Count Dooku

    So you're the jerk who killed me, Jo... >:-{

    October 10, 2014
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    white lancer

    Interesting note... normal identifiers do not work in Mafia (currently) that staff would have access too.

    October 10, 2014
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    Helius

    So you're the jerk who killed me, Jo... >:-{




    October 10, 2014
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    Castrael

    I didn't realize the Marksman didn't participate in a thread with the other mafia. :O

    October 10, 2014
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    The Bandit

    Yeah, no, my death was bullshit. Or the result of me incriminating myself the first round. I must of done that very well to be the first investigated. I hope I'm the fool next game.

    October 10, 2014
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    CtR Black

    It's probably a good thing I was Silenced the first round, because otherwise I would have pointed that out and potentially gotten CtR out of being killed. :P

    October 10, 2014
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    white lancer

    So you're the jerk who killed me, Jo... >:-{


    I just thought you might have tired of getting killed on the third round of every game so I thought to mix things up a bit and break tradition. :/

    October 10, 2014
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    Jo Nathan

    Mafia:

    `Roxas`
    CtR Black

    Townies:

    ????

    October 10, 2014
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    Helius

    Look back at Day 2, the Journalist was clearly being deceptive for points. He suggested CtR Black was mafia yet he would have had no evidence to come to that conclusion, as CtR Black was the Marksman (doesn't have a night action at all.)

    Finally.

    I really hope ghowillo isn't mafia.

    October 10, 2014
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    CtR Black

    Interesting note... normal identifiers do not work in Mafia (currently) that staff would have access too.

    IP and clicking on the name doesn't work. But you can easily do a username search, leading to an IP, leading back to the actual user. Hence how I determined that Mystery Person was JN.

    October 10, 2014
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    Count Dooku

    Cheater

    But yeah, I guess there's no way around that at the current moment. I think it would be worth trying, though, if there's a way to restrict that.

    October 10, 2014
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    Jo Nathan

    Gonna be a fun ending, I forsee. However, some presumptions are correct while others are wrong.

    October 10, 2014
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    `Roxas`

    Inb4 MM9 is journalist

    October 10, 2014
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    `Roxas`

    I always find myself saying that if I ever get a certain role, I won't play. But, I play anyway. :/ I love Mafia too much. It's all Apollo's fault.

    (hehe) Kidding at it being Apollo's fault.

    October 11, 2014
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    Castrael

    I dislike being an actionless role.

    October 11, 2014
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    CtR Black

    I dont know the players well enough to read their innocence.

    October 11, 2014
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    CtR Black

    I dislike being an actionless role.


    Same and I've been townie 18 times in a row.

    October 11, 2014
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    Speed Bike Pro
     

    Please welcome Lady Flare to our numbers... apparently, Kyon likes killing off townies. Perhaps we'll see him soon!

    October 11, 2014
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    Helius

    BRAVO, KYON, BRAVO! SAVES US A NIGHT KILL (that should have been used last night).

    October 11, 2014
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    `Roxas`

    It's really interesting that by Day 4: 47.6% of the players who initially started are dead. I'm hoping that number will rise.

    Your fellow brethren debated on which direction to go with your threat.

    October 11, 2014
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    Helius

    Fairly certain Majora will die this night.

    October 11, 2014
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    `Roxas`

    Awwww, Marjora isn't mafia? :'(

    October 11, 2014
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    CtR Black

    No, he isnt.

    Also, wtf, Kyon

    October 11, 2014
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    Castrael

    That's the last time I protect you Kyon. Hahaha. Just kidding. (Maybe)

    October 11, 2014
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    Lady Flare

    I'd like to think that Apollo might be Mafia. Along with hezy. :/

    October 11, 2014
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    Castrael

    I was hoping my little bait at MM9 would have had you covering him last night, Flare, leaving you open for he kill. At least, that WAS the plan.

    October 11, 2014
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    `Roxas`

    I played it safe and protected a definite innocent.

    October 12, 2014
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    Lady Flare

    All mafia members move at night regardless of inactivity or position.


    ????????

    Why

    October 12, 2014
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    The Bandit

    Yeah, not sure I would agree with that ruling unless the same applies to town players.

    October 12, 2014
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    `Roxas`

    Yeah, I don't understand either. Only assigned rules with night actions move at night.

    October 12, 2014
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    Castrael

    *roles not rules

    haha, oh geez

    October 12, 2014
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    Castrael

    haha penis

    October 12, 2014
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    Speed Bike Pro
     

    Wow, Speed

    October 12, 2014
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    Castrael

    That's a mistake on my part. I've been trying to update the game in between work and home. I'll have to clarify that but I've been running under the assumption that all roles move except Granny (for obvious reasons)

    October 12, 2014
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    Helius

    Can't wait to see what this night round will bring...

    October 13, 2014
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    Jo Nathan

    So the apprentice would be moving around on Night 0.

    October 13, 2014
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    CtR Black

    The Apprentice doesn't move at all. I think.

    Apprentice - No special powers at first. Replaces the role of the first Town-sided power role to die in the Game.


    October 13, 2014
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    Castrael

    Please welcome Bubba and Kyon!

    October 14, 2014
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    Helius

    Apprentice moves. I have talked it over with the Journalist because there was an issue. I'll actually be deducting points from myself because of a mistake I made (mainly because the roles aren't very flushed out with this group). I also have been trying to update rounds when I have time and if it makes it convenient to update them. Since I primarily work 3 - 11 PM CST time... this has been a challenge.

    October 14, 2014
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    Helius

    Kyon = Revenge.

    Granny seems powerful.

    October 14, 2014
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    Castrael

    Granny really doesn't do anything except play the game. Technically, Granny can be killed if a majority of people vote for that person. That's the downside to the Granny.

    For the Serial Killer and Mafia aspect, once one of their numbers dies, they know who not to go after. It puts the Granny at disadvantage because everyone knows who the Granny is. It's very situational.

    October 14, 2014
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    Helius

    This is the closest the serial killer team has ever gotten to victory.

    GO ADMIRER! I BELIEVE IN YOU

    October 14, 2014
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    Jo Nathan

    SHSL Serial Killer Admirer.

    Go go go!

    October 14, 2014
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    `Roxas`

    I honestly think the Granny is a quite powerful role...it's pretty rough for the Mafia and especially the Serial Killer to have an (essentially) unkillable confirmed innocent, and that gets so much harder for them to deal with the longer the game goes on and makes the 2 vs. 1 at the end so much more difficult. I personally think that the Mafia/Serial Killer/Vig targeting the Granny should result in a mutual kill.

    I'm not really a fan of having all of the power roles move at night--I would just restrict that to the ones with actual actions--but it's definitely up to the Host's discretion. It maybe just needed to be clarified at the start of the game. Here, the main effect was that it made the Journalist and Tracker much more powerful roles, and maybe that was by design.

    October 14, 2014
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    white lancer

    Trying to balance this game was definitely a challenge. I don't think this set up has been tried before, and if it has, then we're seeing what can be really done. If I had left it any other way, one side would have been over powered than the other. That being said, the Mafia has had rather bad luck this time around and perhaps that one side is OP.

    What made it more interesting in dynamics is that you have the Apprentice and Admirer in play. It's basically a go ahead for a Town sided player or Serial Killer death. There are problems with the role setup definitely. Its actually something the Journalist was kind of enough to point out. I, of course, will be giving suggestions on how to fix certain aspects of the game.

    As well, if any of you have any suggestions on how this should be improved, let me know.

    October 14, 2014
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    Helius

    fuck.

    October 14, 2014
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    Kyon

    Welp. Was planning on throwing Lightvayne under the bus this round (seeing as his death was inevitable) and seeing how far I could have rode it. Hezekiah is playing a good journalist. Thought he was making himself too obvious as the journalist and was actually the granny trying to bait the mafia into a kill.

    Mafia moving every night regardless of their role definitely threw me for a loop.

    October 14, 2014
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    Bubba

    And Sdyoshi's inactivity didn't help us. I really believe we could have passed him off as the journalist after Hez's article and killed Ghowillo that round.

    October 14, 2014
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    Bubba

    CAN SOMEONE WIN ALREADY PLEASE

    October 14, 2014
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    Speed Bike Pro
     

    I doubt my teammate will emerge victorious, between the journalist still out there snooping around and the granny basically being untouchable... but it's still awesome that one of us will have outlived the mafia so we at least have that.

    I'm eager to see how things go down when the numbers start dwindling and there's less room to hide.

    October 14, 2014
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    Jo Nathan

    Is Lightvayne telling the truth, Jo?

    October 15, 2014
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    `Roxas`

    I'll never tell!

    Ok I'll tell. No it's not Pirate.

    October 15, 2014
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    Jo Nathan

    Hmmm... Interesting, Light. Very interesting. Send the town into a frenzie with almost no way for them to stop the Killer.

    Light dies this round. Hez dies in the night. PN dies tomorrow. What's that 4-0-0-1? One of the night kills will most likely be the Granny, ending the game.

    October 15, 2014
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    `Roxas`

    Well, my cohort knows who the Granny is so I wouldn't count on the Granny making any more kills during the night.

    October 15, 2014
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    Jo Nathan

    Touché

    October 15, 2014
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    `Roxas`

    Honestly my prediction is that SK will get lynched. The granny will role-claim and force SK to either counter-claim or deal with a confirmed, unkillable innocent. The journalist might also post incriminating evidence if he isn't the next SK target.

    October 15, 2014
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    Jo Nathan

    Please welcome, Lightvayne!

    October 15, 2014
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    Helius

    Lol, omg. Mafia gone. If Majora is Serial Killer, I'll scream.

    October 15, 2014
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    Castrael

    So if hez isn't the next victim I'll be uber sadface.

    October 15, 2014
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    CtR Black

    Yeah, I have no clue who the hell the SK is, its was a shot in the dark, but meh, fun game overall. ^_^

    October 15, 2014
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    Lightvayne

    Or, it's Apollo. Just saying.

    October 16, 2014
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    Castrael

    Or it's Black Yoshi or it's EvilGuy0613 or it's Pirate Ninja or it's Ghowilo or it's hezekiah. You heard it here first, folks.

    October 16, 2014
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    Speed Bike Pro
     

    Assuming hez is the journalist, I want the sk to target him. It'll the rest of the game up to chance

    October 16, 2014
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    CtR Black

    @Speed: (duck)

    October 16, 2014
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    Castrael

    Everyone be ready to say hello to our Journalist \o/

    October 16, 2014
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    Lightvayne

    I think killing the Journalist would be a terrible move. It's a waste of a kill for one, as the Journalist doesn't impact the ratio, and also hezekiah should be on the SK's side at this point. The Journalist should want the game to go on until the very last day. The more day rounds there are, the more lynches he is able to influence. Just killing the Serial Killer right now would be the worst outcome for him.

    October 17, 2014
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    The Bandit

    Oh, yeah. The Journalist has a bulletproof vest y'all. Terrible kill. TERRIBLE

    October 17, 2014
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    The Bandit

    At least I think that's what happened. : /

    October 17, 2014
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    The Bandit

    Prob inactivity tbh

    October 17, 2014
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    Jo Nathan

    I didn't give anyone a bullet proof vest.

    October 17, 2014
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    Helius

    I agree with Nathan.

    October 17, 2014
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    Castrael

    Hmm.... reading what Majora's saying about the ratio, but don't third-party roles like the Journalist not count toward the town ratio? If the ratio gets to 1 - 1 - 1, wouldn't that be the end?

    October 19, 2014
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    Jo Nathan

    Well, that is something that the Journalist brought up in his post. If we get to a situation where it's just the Granny and Serial Killer, then the Serial Killer will lose because the Granny can't be killed at night.

    But I imagine that a 1 - 1 - 1 is more likely. In which case, the game would officially end; however, I might just let it go forward if we wanted to see how it played out.

    October 19, 2014
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    Helius

    I think the only way that happens is if he's states on the final day that he staked out MM9 and saw him leave

    October 19, 2014
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    `Roxas`

    Serial Killer wins as the person standing. That's what it says in the roles section.

    October 19, 2014
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    Castrael

    If we get to a situation where it's just the Granny and Serial Killer, then the Serial Killer will lose because the Granny can't be killed at night.

    Well, the Serial Killer doesn't have to kill at night, so that would be more of a tie right?

    October 19, 2014
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    The Bandit

    Please welcome, EvilGuy!

    October 20, 2014
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    Helius

    @The Bandit: I'm pretty sure what the Serial Killer is doing is let the town mislynch their own.

    October 20, 2014
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    Castrael

    This talk about the win conditions isn't making sense to me. If we go off of previous games, they indicate that immunities, actions, vests, the day and night cycles, even remaining night actions if the mafia kill is what brings the ratio down - all of that is thrown out the window once the ratio conditions have been met. If I may play devil's advocate for a moment, suppose we played a game where a mis-lynch resulted in a ratio of 1 - 1, with a Doctor being the remaining town role. Even though the doctor has the ability to protect him/herself during night rounds, that doesn't get considered- the mafia simply win.

    October 20, 2014
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    Jo Nathan

    I wasn't aware of that, but it makes a lot more sense.

    October 20, 2014
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    The Bandit

    Yeah, when Mafia ties it up with the Town, they automatically win. But, the Serial Killer has to be the last person standing. That's the one thing I hate about Serial Killers.

    October 20, 2014
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    Castrael

    Plot twist: the kill each other.

    October 21, 2014
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    `Roxas`

    This talk about the win conditions isn't making sense to me. If we go off of previous games, they indicate that immunities, actions, vests, the day and night cycles, even remaining night actions if the mafia kill is what brings the ratio down - all of that is thrown out the window once the ratio conditions have been met. If I may play devil's advocate for a moment, suppose we played a game where a mis-lynch resulted in a ratio of 1 - 1, with a Doctor being the remaining town role. Even though the doctor has the ability to protect him/herself during night rounds, that doesn't get considered- the mafia simply win.

    Yeah, I pretty much agree with this. It's pretty unfair that the Town could win just by killing the Journalist without ever figuring out who the Serial Killer was. I feel pretty strongly that the Serial Killer should win like the Mafia do--it's pretty standard that 'scum' roles all win automatically if they tie the Town's numbers, and I really don't think that should change just because one of the roles is the Granny. That setup means that the Serial Killer was almost guaranteed to lose the game from the very beginning because the Granny is virtually unkillable, which isn't fair when they already had the worst chance of winning.

    October 21, 2014
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    white lancer

    Please welcome Ghowilo!

    October 21, 2014
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    Helius

    the Apprentice is found dead with a picture of Jo Nathan by his side.


    Ghowilo... I didn't know you felt that way. (:$)

    October 21, 2014
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    Jo Nathan

    I've always loved you Jo Senpai.

    October 21, 2014
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    Ghowilo

    Sorry Evilguy, I thought it was either you or Pirate Ninja.

    I think it's definitely pirate ninja, unless we've been thrown for a loop and MM9 isn't the granny, but I doubt that because everyone posted yesterday and no one claimed granny, though I suppose an inactive player would do that without even thinking about MM9 being the granny.

    I hope we haven't been duped, and again, sorry. No hard feelings?

    October 21, 2014
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    Ghowilo

    Jo, is the Serial Killer MM9? I'm starting to think it is.

    October 22, 2014
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    Ghowilo

    That seems pretty unlikely because there's no reason for the Granny not to counterclaim at this point--they're already aware that the SK knows who they are. Majora is almost certainly on the level.

    Pirate seems like he's playing similarly to last game, but it's always nerve-wracking seeing someone like Apollo both still alive and not actually helping the Town win. I might be inclined to vote her off for that reason. It seems pretty clear that not killing anyone the previous night round was calculated to cast suspicion on EvilGuy, and I could see both P_N and Apollo pulling that stunt. Yoshi's only a maybe in that regard, which is why I'd be less suspicious of him. I haven't been paying the closest attention to this game, though, since I've been dead for most of it. :)

    October 22, 2014
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    white lancer

    No problem Ghowilo. It was kind of hard to tell and I didn't expect my towine claim to be totally bought.

    On the other hand I told myself the person who broke the tie could ppossibly be the serial killer and MM9 did just that.

    October 22, 2014
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    EvilGuy0613

    why is Apollo still alive

    October 22, 2014
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    The Bandit

    My only real reason for not suspecting MM9 is that JN discredited that early in this thread. Unless he suspected folks of cheating, I don't see why he'd do that. I also agree that a granny counter-claim at this point would make things pretty hairy, though I don't think it's particularly likely that a "real granny" hasn't counter-claimed yet.

    I'm starting to think PN is a townie, even though I thought him the most likely candidate after EvilGuy, my intuitions been off here in the end game. I'm leaning towards Black Yoshi at this point though I agree that it could definitely be Apollo.

    Maybe I just don't know PNs antics enough to make a good judgement call, but he seems legit in his recent responses.

    October 22, 2014
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    Ghowilo

    We could very well be looking at a 1 - 1 - 1 here.

    October 23, 2014
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    Helius

    The Town should have really killed Apollo yesterday and PN today IMO (or maybe hezekiah yesterday would have been fine, but I think it's too late to go down that road). If it was Evil Guy or Black Yoshi, then whatever they deserve the win.

    October 23, 2014
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    The Bandit

    I still don't understand why people still sign up when they know they'll be inactive. I'd like to hear more of Apollo's opinion.

    October 23, 2014
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    Castrael

    This looks like a scene out if Dangan Ronpa, is2g

    October 23, 2014
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    `Roxas`

    Please welcome, Journalist hezekiah

    October 24, 2014
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    Helius

    I was so close...

    October 24, 2014
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    hezekiah

    I entered the day round thinking P_N was the SK, and ended it believing that it's BY (since he's the only potential townie who wasn't wanting to kill me).

    October 24, 2014
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    hezekiah

    Yeah, Yoshi not pulling the trigger on hezy does make him look pretty suspicious. He generally looks suspicious even when he's innocent IMO, but that particular action speaks pretty loudly.

    October 25, 2014
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    white lancer

    Nice crowd here.

    October 26, 2014
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    hezekiah

    I still strongly feel that the SK should win if they manage to get it down to just themselves and the Granny. They shouldn't be penalized for not getting rid of the essentially unkillable Townsperson. Also, technically speaking, the Town wouldn't have fulfilled their 'win condition' either at that point so I don't know how they would get the win--it should be a draw if anything.

    October 26, 2014
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    white lancer

    Is this game still going on?

    October 26, 2014
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    Bubba

    Should be.

    October 26, 2014
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    hezekiah

    I'll laugh if Polly J is the new SK

    October 26, 2014
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    `Roxas`

    I was out of town on business... thought I could update it, but wasn't able to do so.

    October 26, 2014
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    Helius

    PNs antics


    October 26, 2014
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    Pirate_Ninja

    MM9 has to vote, then the games over I suppose.

    October 26, 2014
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    Ghowilo

    I still strongly feel that the SK should win if they manage to get it down to just themselves and the Granny. They shouldn't be penalized for not getting rid of the essentially unkillable Townsperson.
    in the future I would agree with this, but since we were told it wouldn't work that way this time I would be quite opposed to that changing mid-game.

    Also, technically speaking, the Town wouldn't have fulfilled their 'win condition' either at that point so I don't know how they would get the win--it should be a draw if anything.
    yeah, they just live out a very awkward life together in their lonely little town where the SK creeps up to Granny's window every night, sees her cradling a shotgun in her rocking chair, and heads back home muttering curses under his breath. And nobody wants to move into a town whose population is 50% serial killers.

    October 26, 2014
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    Pirate_Ninja

    Yoshi really gave it away with his "I know who it is though!!" like it's some secret. The last real townie would know Majora is Granny, so he should also know that the other person is the SK.

    Should be an easy decision for Majora.

    October 26, 2014
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    The Bandit

    In which Majora will b SHSL Detective (Male)

    October 27, 2014
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    `Roxas`

    in the future I would agree with this, but since we were told it wouldn't work that way this time I would be quite opposed to that changing mid-game.


    Yeah, under normal circumstances I think the SK would win in a 1v1 scenario period, but it's at the host's discretion so I agree with this.

    Can't wait to see what Majora does.

    October 27, 2014
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    Jo Nathan

    I understand that position, P_N...it just doesn't make sense to me that this day round actually doesn't matter at all--the Town could just No-Kill and win anyway, and the Serial Killer has already lost despite not yet getting caught. Guess they're just fighting for survival points at this point.

    I never thought I'd see the day where both Apollo and Majora survived to the last 3...Majora, of course, had help, but still.

    October 27, 2014
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    white lancer

    I totally disagree with letting the Town win if it comes down to SK and the Granny. I don't care what the Host said.

    October 27, 2014
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    The Bandit

    Yeah, I think some oversight might be needed here, if the SK survives this lynch s/he should win.

    October 27, 2014
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    Ghowilo

    oh, don't misunderstand - I don't think it should count as a win for the town either if it hits Granny v Admirer. I thought calling it a draw with +1 for each side (since winning is usually +2) might work, as neither side can really accomplish its goal unless one player decides to concede.

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    October 27, 2014
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    Pirate_Ninja

    eagle sucks

    October 27, 2014
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    Speed Bike Pro
     

    also *fart noise* @ bringing IRL into the game to make a decision

    October 27, 2014
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    Speed Bike Pro
     

    Gonna be an interesting ending, regardless of how it's done. I'm practically on the edge of my seat.

    October 27, 2014
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    `Roxas`

    I'm on the edge of my bed because it's putting me to sleep.

    October 28, 2014
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    Speed Bike Pro
     

    Kyon must die next game. Doctor's orders.

    October 28, 2014
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    Lady Flare

    Yes, Madame Doctor!

    October 29, 2014
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    `Roxas`

    Game over lol

    October 29, 2014
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    Jo Nathan

    But who reigns supreme?

    October 29, 2014
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    Ghowilo

    Interesting...I was expecting MM9 to vote for Yoshi. I think I likely would have voted that way myself, just because the way Yoshi's been speaking this round seems a little forced (the constant emphasis on 'I'm a Townie' and whatnot), but I would definitely have been worried about Apollo either way since it's very strange for her to survive this deep into the game when she's not Mafia. Without her vote for hezekiah, I might have gone the other way. I don't remember the vote for Castrael, though, so maybe if I were in the game I would double-check that and have it inform my opinion?

    October 29, 2014
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    white lancer

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