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Posted May 23, 2013 by `Roxas`

As the sun rose, Kyon, the Townie, was found with 37 stab wounds in the chest.

As FAW, Speed and Apollo gathered for the meeting, they began to wonder where Jo was. As they split up, Speed with Apollo and FAW on their own, they heard a cannon boom.

Looking around in confusion, FAW began running down an alley. A whistle blew by her head as an arrow stuck into the wall of the building. A second arrow hit her just below the rip cage. She could only scream out in horror as a third arrow approached her mouth. Another Townie dead.

Meanwhile, Apollo and Speed had rode out on horseback to see if Jo ran off into the wild to avoid being killed. As Speed and his steed led the way up a narrow path, Apollo threw a tomahawk at the back of Speed's head. As the Townie fell off his horse and down into a ravine, Apollo turned around to town to celebrate with Jo.

The Mafia finished off the last two town members.

1. chiefsonny - Townie
2. Redack - Townie
3. Count Dooku - Townie
4. hezekiah - Mafioso
5. Kyon - Townie
6. Yeano - Mafioso
7. Pirate_Ninja - Townie
8. Feral - ??? Sensor
9. Black Yoshi - Townie
10. Trever Leingod - Governor
11. white lancer - Vigilante
12. CtR Black - Townie
13. Kaotic - Townie
14. Jo Nathan - Godfather
15. The Bandit - Cop
16. MajorasMask9 - Assassin
17. Female Alpha Wolf - Townie
18. Castrael - Janitor
19. Apollo J-Money - Mafioso
20. Speed Bike Pro - Townie
21. Hindenburg - Townie

Player scores will be determined and posted in the next couple of days.

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37 stab wounds in the chest.
in a row!?

May 23, 2013
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Pirate_Ninja

He's dead, does it matter? {:P} Yup, in a row.

May 23, 2013
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`Roxas`

Quite nice. Quite nice indeed. (duck)

May 23, 2013
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Apollo Justice

Why not 38?

May 23, 2013
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MajorasMask9

Lessons I think we can learn from this game:

  • Always listen to Redack, even if he's not killed off in the first couple rounds
  • Always vote for Yeano (again)
  • Never trust Majora, ever
  • If the Godfather role is included in the game, it has been assigned to Jo Nathan


    Lessons I think the Mafia can learn:

  • Always kill Redack early, period

    • May 23, 2013
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    Jo Nathan

    He's dead, does it matter?
    well, just try not to stab anyone on your way through the parking lot

    May 23, 2013
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    Pirate_Ninja

    ... Too late. There was a small child in my way.

    May 23, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    Sigh.

    May 23, 2013
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    Speed Bike Pro
     

    Good job Apollo and Jo. You guys played really well.

    May 23, 2013
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    The Bandit

    Another lesson I think we can learn is that, if someone contacts you through OOG communications, the correct response is always: Fuck off, idiot.

    That crap is going to be bad news for you, always.

    May 23, 2013
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    The Bandit

    A fun game to watch {:P} a little bit disappointed with the town's efforts but it was really close and I like that.

    May 23, 2013
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    White Thunder

    Hahaha, thanks, Bandit. It was very fun/suspenseful/intense for my first game but I liked it that way. {:P}

    May 23, 2013
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    Apollo Justice

    Good lord, that dead thread was long.


    The Bandit:
    You people and your Skype and Yahoo tomfoolery...

    A fucking men Jo Nathan. I hate that shit.


    {y}


    Redack:
    It's ok... Everything is going exactly as planned... No need to panic...





    white lancer:
    Gave Jo a pass for most of the game since he said he was going to be gone before it started, but it definitely is suspicious that he's remained quiet even though he's back now (and he never expounded upon whatever theory he was going to bring up that one day).


    At one point, I thought for sure this would have ended me. My "theory" was going to basically out Majora and Yeano's scheme - a Mafia outing a Mafia who's outing a Mafia? Who'd expect that? But going through with that seemed very selfish on my part so I hesitated. I was 100% sure Majora or Yeano were going to get it that night so my plan B was to go through with the plan the next Day, but Majora got outed before I had the chance so I never mentioned it ever again.

    May 23, 2013
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    Jo Nathan

    Yea I didn't expect Jo to be the other Mafia... I was becoming certain that it was Speed.

    Always listen to Redack, even if he's not killed off in the first couple rounds


    Please don't, I'm not perfect {:?}

    May 23, 2013
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    Redack

    so frustrating to watch those last few days because I was so sure of the town's death spiral (cry)

    Soon as I had the free time to try and do something about my suspicions of Apollo - it was gonna take some prying to get anything that could actually convince people - you offed me! Jerks.

    Kudos on a game well-played, though. Wish I'd been available for more of it (look)

    May 23, 2013
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    Pirate_Ninja

    Oh hey... My guess on the last Mafia was right. I should probably start not second guessing myself {:P}

    May 23, 2013
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    Female Alpha Wolf

    Speed is mafia.

    May 23, 2013
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    Kyon

    i didnt get any notifications Oo that this game was over

    May 23, 2013
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    Castrael

    Speed was the Mafia's marionette doll so, so hard.

    May 23, 2013
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    Hindenburg
    Life's path is never straight.

    Holy shit, I didn't see that coming...Speed was a TOWNIE?!!?

    May 23, 2013
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    Black Yoshi

    Yup! He did all that and legitimately thought he was HELPING the town!

    May 23, 2013
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    Hindenburg
    Life's path is never straight.

    Please don't, I'm not perfect {:?}


    What are you talking about? Youre suspicion of Apollo was spot-on, even if half the Town wasn't willing to follow it.

    Also:

    a Mafia outing a Mafia who's outing a Mafia?


    Mafia-ception (hehe)

    May 23, 2013
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    Black Yoshi

    *Your

    May 23, 2013
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    Black Yoshi

    The reason I sighed is because I am STILL ONE HUNDRED PERCENT CERTAIN that chiefsonny is mafia!!!!!!! I'd like an autopsy report on my desk by closing time because this silly notion that he is a "townie" is clearly false, forged, etc.

    So, who's hosting game 18?

    May 23, 2013
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    Speed Bike Pro
     

    Dang, been awhile since I have seen the Mafia win a game! Good work Mafia people.

    Please don't, I'm not perfect {:?}


    Redack being humble!? What is this sorcery?!

    May 23, 2013
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    Trever Leingod

    Congrats to the winners.

    Apollo J-Money - Mafioso

    who would have thunk it{fp}

    May 23, 2013
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    chiefsonny
     

    Damn, forgot.

    Good job Hosting `Roxas`{y}

    May 23, 2013
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    chiefsonny
     

    Good show. Now, who tagged my reply where I successfully identified Apollo in an unlocked thread? Bwahaha... chiefsonny, those wild accusations really hurt the town, sloppy arguments make me think you're mafia.

    May 24, 2013
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    LLight

    Now that the game is over, I think it's time for our obligatory HAPPY TIMES GOOD GAME FRIENDSHIP AND LOVE DANCE PARTY FIESTA WOOOOOOOOO











    May 24, 2013
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    Speed Bike Pro
     

    Anyway, sorry for anyone who was scarred by me interfering in a game that I wasn't part of, in a thread that wasn't locked to non-players in this here forum. I shant be returning to the GTX0 Mafia games, I suppose. Only slightly happy that I was right.

    Nobody grants points for ingenuity nor unreal charisma. Only game resets and heartbreak. {:(}

    May 24, 2013
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    LLight

    Now, who tagged my reply where I successfully identified Apollo in an unlocked thread?

    I did, considering that it could have had major implications in the game, and it should be obvious that you shouldn't have even been discussing the game in a public manner, regardless of whether a thread is locked or not. It would have been one thing if you had requested being a part of the dead thread from the start and stating your thoughts there, but the way went about it was in poor taste.

    May 24, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    And I wouldn't have noticed had Yeano not brought it up to me on AIM. (:|)

    Glad to hear you'll be returning after a year! {:P}

    May 24, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    Well had I known in advance that I'd take a peek at this game on whim, I surely would have asked! Had I known my unfair powers of observation were correct (which I didn't), it might have been poor taste, but since I didn't 100% know, then it's not. Fair enough? Those kinds of replies always illicit shaken responses from the accused, I hear. And dammit I said I was sorry.

    May 24, 2013
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    LLight

    AUGH! It feels like every time I actually feel satisfied with how I played a game, my team winds up losing. I'm pretty sure most of my best games have happened when I've been on the losing side (although I've of course had some pretty bad games on the losing side as well).

    Definitely solid play by the Mafia as a whole, and extra congratulations are in order for Jo and Apollo for carrying the torch to the end (and on Apollo's first game, too!). I was leaning towards Jo being the last Mafia (along with Apollo, who I was fairly confident about) for most of my time in the dead thread, but I definitely started to wonder about Speed especially during the last day round. Did you and Apollo plan that No-Kill at the end of that one day, Speed? That was what had me worrying about you--Apollo suddenly expresses suspicion of you and you don't even blink?

    Another lesson I think we can learn is that, if someone contacts you through OOG communications, the correct response is always: Fuck off, idiot.

    That crap is going to be bad news for you, always.

    Agreed. One final lesson: never No Kill when you're up by three and the Mafia can only kill one player per night. It's better to get information by lynching someone you're not very suspicious of than not to lynch anyone at all, especially when there are no power roles that you would risk hitting. Heck, that's one of the (very, very) few situations where getting yourself lynched might help, but only if it's a choice between that and No Kill.

    At one point, I thought for sure this would have ended me. My "theory" was going to basically out Majora and Yeano's scheme - a Mafia outing a Mafia who's outing a Mafia? Who'd expect that? But going through with that seemed very selfish on my part so I hesitated. I was 100% sure Majora or Yeano were going to get it that night so my plan B was to go through with the plan the next Day, but Majora got outed before I had the chance so I never mentioned it ever again.

    I was hoping to bring that up again. It was one of the things I was planning on saying if I got back home in time to write out a big long post before MM9 got lynched, because you not saying your theory right then didn't quite sit right with me. Alas, 'twas not to be. :(

    Oh hey... My guess on the last Mafia was right. I should probably start not second guessing myself

    I was counting on you pulling through for us in the end...again. :( But I definitely understand second-guessing yourself. It's tough to take a leadership role at the end of the game and risking blowing it for the Town if your suspicions are incorrect.

    May 24, 2013
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    white lancer

    Also, I have a bit of an announcement: I started a working full-time last Thursday, so my activity levels will be lower than before and I won't be easily accessible during the weekdays. I'm not stepping down as Executive Host, at least not yet, as I think this game and the hosts are largely self-sufficient without me watching over them all the time (which is why I feel safe playing in the games). If it does become a problem, I'll step down and let someone else take it up.

    May 24, 2013
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    white lancer

    Well, now you know. And sorry if it seemed that first reply was hostile, I was typing it up as you were replying, I guess. (cry)

    May 24, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    Man, that Mafia thread was so much fun to read through! Y'all were like a real Mafia family in there. {:P} Some thoughts:

    Apollo, maybe you can argue you got him mixed up with CtR Black, who only said "hi" in the last round.

    That's exactly why I didn't pay too much attention to that particular post! >:-{ By the time I died, the only reason I had to think Apollo was even a little suspicious was her redirection of the vote off of Yeano.

    Just PMed him and he's a vanilla Townie. He never lies to me.

    {fp} DOOKU! WHY?

    Okay, I've been combing through Day 1 (haven't even gotten to Day 2 yet since it ended), and I'm getting a very strong cop vibe from Black Yoshi.

    That's kinda funny, because I was thinking the same thing. Mainly because of how he emphasized that the Mafia this game must be REALLY good--I thought he might be trying to get a message across that he checked a "power player" (my bets were Yeano, then Redack, and kinda but not really MM9) and found them Guilty.

    ShadowMoonray: If I die within the next couple of nights, I have informed an agent to deal with you personally

    Did you have an agent this time, Redack? I know you've done that in the past...

    white lancer is hard to tell. I think his day arguments point away from him being the cop, and I know he would never take the risk to shoot hezekiah in Night 1 as the vigilante.
    white lancer: Not the vigilante, probably not the cop.

    :-}


    Also, interesting that you guys killed Bandit thinking he was the Vig. I had assumed y'all guessed he was the Cop based on his accusation of Yeano late in the round.


    He is indeed a butt.

    Truer words have never been spoken.

    ALSO NIGHTKILL CHIEFSONNY YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO LYNCH HIM GOODBYE CRUEL WORLD

    lol

    I think white lancer would be the only one alive to actually call you out for that. And you guys are killing him tonight so it shouldn't matter too much.

    Bah, you know me too well. I was totally going to say something about that. {:(}

    And I love the extended strategy-fest between JN and Apollo that takes up roughly half the thread once MM9 went down. Especially when you were convinced Apollo was going to die, and when you realized you probably had the game in the bag. And man...I didn't realize just how extensively Apollo played Speed. Well done.

    May 24, 2013
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    white lancer

    Speed needs to work on his subtlty and his not painting a freaking bullseye on himself.

    I owe the town a huge apology. I made a very quick fatal mistake in not taking atvantage of the potential opening Majora gave me. WAY to quick to stick my neck out like that.

    Also, I request to actually be subtracted a point since I was DQed afterwards for illegal out of game communication(not that it made a hell of a difference) after my death. I was suppose to lose all points for the game, but since I wouldn't have earned any, I think it's a fair compromise.

    Jo, you really showed some stuff this time around. However, this games MVP is easily Apollo. To be made Mafia in your first game, and actually survive and win is phenominal. I think you might actually be the first to acomplish that feat.

    May 24, 2013
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    Feral

    Did you have an agent this time, Redack? I know you've done that in the past...


    Nah I was bluffing this time {:P}

    May 24, 2013
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    Redack

    However, this games MVP is easily Apollo.


    This. Her mastery of manipulation was the single most helpful thing for us, without a doubt.

    May 24, 2013
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    Jo Nathan

    Also, I request to actually be subtracted a point

    You just won't get any points; no points will be docked.

    May 24, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    I wouldn't have gotten any anyway.

    But thanks.

    May 24, 2013
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    Feral

    I have to say, I was extremely, extremely impressed by white lancer's play as Vigilante. One, he single-handedly took out two members of the Mafia; two, he compleeeetely tricked the Mafia into thinking the Vigilante was someone who could be quite impulsive (and I saw that was his exact strategy when I looked through his thread). I was afraid he would be the reason we lost after MM9 tried to assassinate him but failed.

    However, this games MVP is easily Apollo. To be made Mafia in your first game, and actually survive and win is phenominal. I think you might actually be the first to acomplish that feat.

    Awwwh, shucks, thank you (:$) I was SO happy as you can see in the Mafia thread once we unofficially won. Gosh, it was just so exciting, especially because I didn't realize that the Mafia wins quite less often than the Town. This game was a lot more fun and extensive than I originally imagined but I'm very glad I joined. Needless to say I'll be joining in the next ones {:P}

    Her mastery of manipulation was the single most helpful thing for us, without a doubt.

    (evil) I hope that's not a bad thing though, haha. But it was I think it was very helpful to our success that you stayed relatively quiet during the game (though I knew you had to for the beginning, at least). It just kind of took the spotlight off of you. Little did everyone know we were doing lots and lots of planning {:P}

    Anyways, thank you guys for such a great game! And great job hosting, Roxas!

    May 24, 2013
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    Apollo Justice

    STOP USING SO MANY SMILEYS

    May 24, 2013
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    Hindenburg
    Life's path is never straight.

    Official Point Tally for Game 17.2

    Apollo Justice +5 (Surviving, Winning, Good Play)
    Jo Nathan +5 (Surviving, Winning, Good Play)
    MajorasMask9 +3 (Winning, Good Play)
    Yeano +3 (Winning, Good Play)
    Castrael +3 (Winning, Good Play)
    hezekiah +2 (Winning)

    Female Alpha Wolf +3 (Surviving, Good Play)
    Speed Bike Pro +2 (Surviving)
    chiefsonny +1 (Good Play)
    Redack +1 (Good Play)
    Count Dooku +1 (Good Play)
    Kyon +1 (Good Play)
    Pirate_Ninja +1 (Good Play)
    Black Yoshi +1 (Good Play)
    Trever Leingod +1 (Good Play)
    white lancer +1 (Good Play)
    CtR Black +1 (Good Play)
    The Bandit +1 (Good Play)
    Hindenburg +1 (Good Play)
    Kaotic 0 (Inactivity due to Registration Issue)
    Feral 0 (Illegal Communication with Living Player)

    May 24, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    Good play is sorta subjective... Can I at least get a +0.5 for good play from the mafia's perspective?

    May 24, 2013
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    Speed Bike Pro
     

    I did consider that and would do so, but I'm certain things were established early on that only full point values could be awarded/docked.

    May 25, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    `Roxas`
    Not sure if the Guest Host can access the Main Document for Player Scores at the top of the page. But if you're not, once you're sure there won't be any changes and the scores for this game are final. I will make the changes in the Main Player Scores Document for you.

    Again good job.

    May 25, 2013
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    chiefsonny
     

    Yeah, I'm not able to. I (or white lancer) will leave this thread up [read: unlocked] for a few days so that everybody has a fair chance to determine whether the points given out were done justly. Getting a thread for Game 18 up wouldn't be a bad idea for now either. (:S)

    May 25, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    I am a bit inclined to think lancer should get another good playing point, just because he took exactly two shots as the Vigilante and he killed two Mafia with them, and no townies. Also his strategy to mislead the Mafia from identifying his role worked pretty well.

    May 25, 2013
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    Jo Nathan

    Redack should also get something extra for his OoG logs and accurate identification.

    May 25, 2013
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    LLight

    I know it doesn't really work like this, but saying that white lancer and myself played an equal game here is kind of ridiculous. He definitely deserves more points.

    May 25, 2013
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    The Bandit

    white lancer definitely deserves more points. He basically took down half of the mafia on his own (while hezekiah was pretty luck-based, he did a calculated shot with Yeano and managed to fool me into thinking there was no chance he was the vigilante, which messed up my Assassin kill.)

    May 25, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    white lancer +3 (Good Play, Beneficial to Town)

    Any issues with that?

    May 25, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    {y}

    May 25, 2013
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    The Bandit

    Huzzah! Good to have people who will complain on my behalf. {:P} Like I said, I was satisfied with my play this game and it's especially gratifying to hear the Mafia members acknowledge that I was a thorn in their side. {:P}

    One little nitpick about the points: surviving the game is only worth 1 point. So adjust the points for the surviving players accordingly and I'd call it good. ^_^ I'll get the sign-ups for the next game up momentarily.

    May 25, 2013
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    white lancer

    Also, whoever updates the points can add +1 Good Hosting Points to Roxas. I barely noticed his presence during the game, which to me is the mark of a good host. ^_^

    ...I STILL wish I could update the scores myself...

    May 25, 2013
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    white lancer

    I was afraid he would be the reason we lost after MM9 tried to assassinate him but failed.

    I was hoping that would be the case. {:(}

    Also, re: Feral, I've decided that breaking game rules will result in forfeiting the right to host the next game, as well as all points that you would otherwise have earned. That strikes me as adequate punishment for minor offenses. I want to reserve bans from playing for serious/repeated offenses.

    May 25, 2013
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    white lancer

    I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT I SPEARHEADED A LYNCH IN CASE THAT WAS FORGOTTEN IN THE POINT TOTAL.

    May 25, 2013
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    Kyon

    @white lancer, unless you want to wait longer, I will update the

    Player Scores Document sometime tomorrow (SUNDAY)unless someone gets antsy and does it before me. {:P}

    May 25, 2013
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    chiefsonny
     

    I'll repost all the points after I return from the store (unless somebody gets antsy and does it before me).

    May 25, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    If you're gonna reduce the points for surviving, it makes the most sense to only do it for FAW and I. Technically, we did die. Jo and Apollo should keep their point totals the way they are due to their exceptional play. Just my opinion.

    May 25, 2013
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    Speed Bike Pro
     

    Apollo Justice +4 (Surviving, Winning, Good Play)
    Jo Nathan +4 (Surviving, Winning, Good Play)
    MajorasMask9 +3 (Winning, Good Play)
    Yeano +3 (Winning, Good Play)
    Castrael +3 (Winning, Good Play)
    hezekiah +2 (Winning)

    white lancer +3 (Good Play, Beneficial to Town) Female Alpha Wolf +2 (Surviving, Good Play)
    Speed Bike Pro +1 (Surviving)
    chiefsonny +1 (Good Play)
    Redack +1 (Good Play)
    Count Dooku +1 (Good Play)
    Kyon +1 (Good Play)
    Pirate_Ninja +1 (Good Play)
    Black Yoshi +1 (Good Play)
    Trever Leingod +1 (Good Play)
    CtR Black +1 (Good Play)
    The Bandit +1 (Good Play)
    Hindenburg +1 (Good Play)
    Kaotic 0 (Inactivity due to Registration Issue)
    Feral 0 (Illegal Communication with Living Player)

    `Roxas` +1 (Good Hosting)

    Points are Final.

    May 25, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    I seriously thought that leading a lynch gave you a point. Are you telling me, who survived until the final day, got the same amount as Trever, the useless pawn that died on day 1.

    May 26, 2013
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    Kyon

    Thanks for the pity point {:D}

    May 26, 2013
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    Count Dooku

    If you're gonna reduce the points for surviving, it makes the most sense to only do it for FAW and I. Technically, we did die. Jo and Apollo should keep their point totals the way they are due to their exceptional play. Just my opinion.

    It's not really a reduction in the survival points, it's getting them back to where they've been since Game 1. I like having survival points be only 1 because I never actually get them surviving the game isn't always an indicator of actual skill at the game (though it is more for Mafia than for Town), so the point is just like a nice little bonus if you happen to make it to the end. Whether Apollo or Jo deserve +5 total points anyway is another matter (I would probably toss Apollo another good playing point because her manipulation of Speed was kinda the deciding factor), but that's entirely up to the Host's discretion and I won't change anything unless I feel something is egregiously wrong.

    I seriously thought that leading a lynch gave you a point. Are you telling me, who survived until the final day, got the same amount as Trever, the useless pawn that died on day 1.

    This is just my opinion, but I do think 1 point for being the first to vote Castrael is adequate. As I see it, the issue is more Roxas being a little more generous with the +1s than some of us perhaps would like, which removes the separation between some players who didn't really do all that much and the ones who did help at least a fair amount. I probably would remove the points from a few of the players who received them, but ultimately that's Roxas' discretion since he hosted and viewed the entire game in real time (I have zero idea if this is actually true, but I do have a suspicion that part of Roxas' generosity is due to him wanting to separate most of the players from Feral, due to him breaking game rules).

    May 26, 2013
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    white lancer

    I seriously thought that leading a lynch gave you a point. Are you telling me, who survived until the final day, got the same amount as Trever, the useless pawn that died on day 1.

    Being the first person to vote for somebody else with the reason being "Die Mafia!" is hardly leading a lynch. The only reason Trever was "a useless pawn" is because he was never able to use his ability as Governor.

    As far as I'm concerned, so long as you were moderately active in the main threads that said players would receive a point for good play, regardless of how long they were alive. The only reason Speed didn't receive a Good Play point is because of how detrimental he was to the town.

    May 26, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    Player scores have been updated in the Player Scores Document at the top of the page.

    May 26, 2013
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    chiefsonny
     

    Gay.

    May 26, 2013
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    Kyon

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