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game 11 dead thread

Posted August 31, 2012 by MajorasMask9

Nearly!

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September 2, 2012
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Yeano

u hacker

September 3, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Well that sucks!

September 5, 2012
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Redack

Ah you see, it always serves to have a progeny and backup plan... I just hope they go for Lancer, and hopefully my potentially flawed logic is right which also means Zanic is mafia... So we may get two of them :D

September 5, 2012
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Redack

Ugh Xhin's gonna get away with those ridiculous lies because no one on this site other than Dooku (even if he wasn't special club number) would be able to see through them {:(}

September 5, 2012
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Redack

So this has been bugging me a little...

Why has no one picked up on the fact that Xhin says he doesn't think Dooku is Mafia whilst at the same time holding a vote to lynch Dooku... Seriously? No one notices this? I mean ignoring all the other things to pick apart with what he's said this strikes me as the most obvious and its one everyone has missed {:(}

September 6, 2012
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Redack

Damn I'd love to see inside the mafia thread right now. Lancer is sooooo mafia. I don't think I've seen townie lancer pull a move like the one he's done on #85 but it'd be nice to see if I am right about Zanic and who the final is.

Feral is probably right about it being one of the less actives. If this night round takes too long it's probably Hez as the others have returned now. Though he could just be a non-mafia power role :/ they should probably vote him off (after lancer damnit!) or else he could slip under the radar {:?}

September 7, 2012
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Redack

BUT the final mafia isn't the silencer... That'd be either lancer or zanic if I'm right about them. Someone (Kassie claimed her) was silenced day 1, if it was an inactive played that'd not be true and I believe her.

September 7, 2012
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Redack

I demand you sell me something.

September 7, 2012
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Yeano

I could sell you Dooku's soul and his first born child... He's sold those to me like a hundred times already...

But I don't want to, how about I sell this golden statue of Yeano?

September 8, 2012
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Redack

Okay, hi fellas. Sorry for the absence, no real excuse... honestly I just forgot about mafia. I went in to add the additional points, but it seems like somebody already Redack's?


Somebody already Redack's?

September 8, 2012
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Redack

But I don't want to, how about I sell this golden statue of Yeano?


It's a trick! It's only gold-plated and won't even prevent you from getting voted off the island! Definitely not worth 10 coins!

September 8, 2012
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MajorasMask9

I would prefer Dooku's sole.

That would make walking extremely awkward.

September 8, 2012
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Yeano

Meh they lynched #85... Hopefully now they'll turn on Lancer so I can be avenged (no)

September 8, 2012
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Redack

The trap was set. The bait was taken. Let's just hope the catch was sucsessful(fricken Ninja).

It's my own fault that I am here. I stupidly overlooked a vital reply from Knux which led me to reveal WAY to early.

In the end, I voted for Lancer cause he seemed passive and evasive. Two people who voted for him died. Well, as a parting gift, Lancer is roleblocked this round.

September 9, 2012
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Feral

Yea, my initial logic on lancer might not have been solid but he's acting differently... I don't understand why they can't see it. The claim that the move against 85 was just bad too, I don't know how enough of them fell for that -_-

September 9, 2012
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Redack

Also Zanic seems to be... Uh, maybe more aggressive? More angry? Something along those lines... Which would support my belief that if Lancer is mafia then so is Zanic. It's in huge contrast to the last time he played as mafia too where he was extremely passive, so he's probably doing it intentionally.

September 9, 2012
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Redack

Idiot town has no clue what they are doing.

Town really had no decent roles, though. They are ALL more trouble then they are worth. I'd be astonished if the Mafia didn't win.

September 9, 2012
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Feral

I've no idea who the newcomer is though... The problem there is they can very easily act like a townie because they only have access to the same information {:?}

Will have to keep watching.

September 9, 2012
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Redack

Town really had no decent roles, though. They are ALL more trouble then they are worth. I'd be astonished if the Mafia didn't win.


I dunno! Something to remember is the amount of confirmed innocent roles. Once the Sheriff makes a kill, their role is confirmed. Count Dooku is also pretty much confirmed innocent being the Special Club Member. In an endgame situation, it could get pretty difficult for the mafia to convince people to lynch someone that's innocent, especially if the Watcher and Tracker hold off on revealing until the end. If the town ends up taking out even two mafia members, I think it'll be a bit difficult for the mafia to pull off a win.

I think the only thing in this rolelist I'd change if it was ever used again would be the ratio of sleepwalkers:townies. Make it so there are less sleepwalkers, and also change it so their roles are revealed as "Sleepwalker" at death.

September 9, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Roles were fine, I'd agree many one too many sleepwalkers...

Also looks like the town has picked up on Zanic's aggressiveness,

September 9, 2012
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Redack

Yep, Zanic couldn't have made it any more obvious he was guilty. In turn, he is defending Lancer WAY to hard. I think you got a hole-in-one on this game, Red.

The Newcomer could easily last till the end by laying low and blatantly not joining the main group. If it's someone like hezy, FAW, or Serpe who are posting just enough to avoid getting host killed, they are set.

Kassie does seem to fit the timeline of Mafia member as well. She DEFINATILY has a night action.

September 9, 2012
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Feral

Game 3--Died the night before Day 3 when selecting a Mason target
Game 4--Killed by the Vigilante the night after Day 3
Game 5--Killed the night before Day 3 by the Mafia
Game 6--Voted out by the Town on Day 3, saved by the Governor, then killed the night after Day 3 by the Arsonist
Star Wars Empire--Executed by the Town on Day 3
Game 7--Arrested by the FBI Agent the night before Day 3
Game 9--Targeted by the Mafia the night before Day 3 (but survived, as a result of me being the Doctor)
Game 10--Voted out by the Town on Day 3

...look at this record. If I ever host again, I'm going to ban Day Three.

September 10, 2012
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white lancer

I may as well include a special mention of Day Three of Game 8--the game I was hosting--after which I 'died' as I went on vacation and so stopped hosting. That's also the day I made my screwup and missed the Governor's save.

Day Three is obviously the domain of the black lancer. :(

September 10, 2012
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white lancer

Black Lancer? Is he related to the Black Knight?

I guess you really got caught in the sibling mess back there. Guilty or not(and his behavior strongly points to the sooner), I expect Zanic to be lynched tomorrow.

Redack, well done! I think you have truly become the best Mafia player in GT.

September 10, 2012
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Feral

Nope, no relation. And Zanic definitely dug himself a hole in the last hours of that day round--I was going to try to save him but after all that it was impossible.

Majora, one question. Were the roles completely randomized? Dooku told me that part of the reason he was so convinced Zanic and I were both Mafia was because he didn't think the roles were random.

Oh, and for the record:

1. We were planning on killing Redack well before he antagonized me on AIM. Mostly because I knew he would antagonize me sooner or later.

2. I still stand behind the strategy I put forth that looked so fishy to Redack--if the Watcher/Tracker have concrete proof of one Mafia (especially with such a small pool of Mafia to start with), it's better for them to come out with it than risk wasting it when they get nightkilled.

3. I also legitimately found #85 suspicious, and I was half-convinced he was the Newcomer when I directed my vote toward him. I figured that I was most likely dead that round anyway, so if he was the Newcomer he'd get a little cover from my accusation, and if I wound up surviving and he turned up Mafia that would also probably give me some cover. I was as surprised as anyone when he turned up as a Townie.

4. The 'Zanic and I' statement (first sentence of my first post in the game -_-) was probably my biggest misstep. I think I was just overthinking--I recall deleting it, and then putting it back in because I remembered myself saying something similar in previous games. I guess I thought it would make me sound more casual and I thought I would be able to defend it, when I really should have realized that it would probably do more harm than good.

5. I also definitely got a little too defensive against Dooku at the start...but it worked for one round, at least. My guess is that my survival that round had more to do with my 'reputation,' so to speak, than my arguments--people were just reluctant to kill me because they knew I could be helpful if I were on their side.

September 10, 2012
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white lancer

Damn I'd love to see inside the mafia thread right now.

It's really not all that interesting--I was basically just vomiting ideas and strategies out without much feedback from the other players.

Well, as a parting gift, Lancer is roleblocked this round.

Heh, I targeted Zanic that night round.

Town really had no decent roles, though. They are ALL more trouble then they are worth.

It certainly didn't feel that way from the Mafia side. I was freaking out because I thought the Watcher/Tracker had the potential to be majorly damaging--sure, most of their checks were likely to be useless, but they had the potential to identify the Silencer 100% (and since there were only four of us, losing one member seemed like a huge blow). The Sheriff was messing with a bunch of the end-game scenarios/strategies I had going on in my head (you have no idea how much I was hoping he would off Dooku that one round). The Nurse seems worthless until you follow the strategy I outlined in the first day round--using the Nurse as an aggressive roleblocker rather than a passive defender. I was terrified you were going to target the Ninja that last night round, wind up saving yourself, and get virtual confirmation of another Mafia member.

And then, of course, we had the Special Club. It was really unfortunate that Dooku and Redack were in the club together because they could be 100% certain each other was innocent, they could strategize, and when they grew suspicious of me I could only get rid of one of them while the other was a confirmed innocent in the eyes of the Town (Xhin's shenanigans notwithstanding), so I had a crusader on the loose against me and I couldn't even really question his credibility. Xhin also got pretty much shafted with that because he had to try to convince the Town to lynch someone who was confirmed Town-sided--he did the right thing in claiming Special Club because that was the only way he was going to get close.

Truth me told, I definitely thought the numbers were more in the Town's favor from the start, mostly because the Mafia numbers were so low. The Defense Attorney and the Prosecutor balance it out a little bit so I don't think it's too far off, but we didn't even use our Mafia abilities for fear of being tagged by the Watcher/Tracker.

September 10, 2012
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white lancer

Majora, one question. Were the roles completely randomized? Dooku told me that part of the reason he was so convinced Zanic and I were both Mafia was because he didn't think the roles were random.


The roles were definitely randomized--three times even, due to me assuming we wouldn't get any more sign ups after certain points. If Kassie hadn't joined the game, Dooku would have ended up being Special Club Members with Xhin, and before that it was like, FAW and someone else.

September 10, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Redack, well done! I think you have truly become the best Mafia player in GT.

I disagree, as I've now noted a few times my basis for Lancer wasn't very strong. However the whole "Zanic and I were at etc etc etc" was a real dead giveaway (for me at least) that you were on the same side. You may well have done that before, but from my observations if you're on opposite sides you very rarely do it... Then I just had a bunch of things that kept making me think you were mafia and all the while Zanic gets more and more defensive for you {:P}

And then, of course, we had the Special Club. It was really unfortunate that Dooku and Redack were in the club together because they could be 100% certain each other was innocent...

I can usually tell when Dooku is innocent regardless, we know each other too well {:P} so I often just avoid targeting him until he's like the last one (or until he deserves death!).

September 10, 2012
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Redack

What the heck were the exact reasons for Knukles getting host-killed? I don't see any reason why he should be kicked out of the game for anything that happened on the site at this point, especially considering how blatantly ineffective attempts at keeping him away are.

It's especially troublesome for out Defense Attorney, considering that Knukles was the attorney's client. That just screws him over.

I'm just saying there better be a very good reason for it. Even though this is just a game on the site, and that the overall site rules override any rules related to the mafia game, kicking him out of this game isn't going to stop him from coming back to the rest of the site. If anything a ban from the next game on would have been even slightly more practical. But again, I don't know the exact reasoning for his hostkill.

September 10, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Actually, the one time I did it before I was the Doctor and he was Mafia. :P

And I figured you probably would have used Dooku as your confidant anyway, which is why I considered having him silenced the night we killed you. Only reason I didn't was because I figured it wouldn't do any good--I thought he'd just tell someone else via AIM and my guilt would be even more confirmed. That's why I don't like IMs in Mafia. More damaging than you knowing he was innocent was the fact that I couldn't even question his credibility at all, and since he was confirmed innocent the Town was more willing to listen to him.

September 10, 2012
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white lancer

He's been global banned. After discussion on the mod forum I think Feral agrees he should have left it to you/yeano to deal with it.

So the reason for the host kill is because he can't participate due to the global ban.

September 10, 2012
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Redack

As for Knukles, it looks like the admins have decided on a no tolerance policy for him, even in Mafia. They probably should have let you handle that yourself, though.

You could probably just randomize a new target for the Defense Attorney.

September 10, 2012
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white lancer

I thought he'd just tell someone else via AIM and my guilt would be even more confirmed.

That'd be breaking the rules. If you're silenced you shouldn't be allowed to talk about it via AIM either, at least that's how I always play. Once I'm dead or silenced I discuss the game in a very minimalistic way (unless, such as your case, I know you're mafia and in which case I vent my annoyance regarding the town {:P})

That said, always have two backup plans in case one fails... I just forgot to have a second this game {:(}

September 10, 2012
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Redack

As for Knukles, it looks like the admins have decided on a no tolerance policy for him, even in Mafia. They probably should have let you handle that yourself, though.

Don't refer to it as a collective decision plox!

Feral did it before I got online and the first thing I did when I got online was say he shouldn't do it (noting that I was probably too late to stop it). Chief agreed as well.

September 10, 2012
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Redack

Chief agreed with me that is.

Also MM9 I've deleted the two youtube replies I made because they were causing that stupid glitch with google chrome -_- just in case you wonder why they vanished.

September 10, 2012
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Redack

You could probably just randomize a new target for the Defense Attorney.


Well, I'm giving the Defense Attorney a choice for what they want to do (new client or no client). It would be kind of a dick move to just randomly assign them a new client without consent, especially if it ended up being someone like Zanic who is arguably confirmed to be lynched next round regardless of anything that is said.

But it still kind of sucks for them! Although I will say that Zanic could probably use a good attorney... :)

September 10, 2012
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MajorasMask9

That said, always have two backup plans in case one fails... I just forgot to have a second this game

That was the other reason I didn't silence him--figured you probably had told someone else as well. Almost did it anyway, but a combo of the presence of the Watcher/Tracker and the whole AIM thing made me decide against it.

And I'm similar re: AIM; actually, I hardly discuss the game at all outside of the main thread except with you and occasionally Dooku, Zanic, or hezekiah (and I pretty much never initiate OOG communication). It's just not explicit in the rules that silencing in the game = silencing on AIM, so I didn't want to risk it.

September 10, 2012
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white lancer

What Zanic needs is a miracle worker at this point. I don't see it ever happening even with a defense attorney on his side.

September 10, 2012
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white lancer

It's just not explicit in the rules that silencing in the game = silencing on AIM, so I didn't want to risk it.

Personally, with any rules, I view it as the intent of the rules that matter not the actual wording. It's pretty clear that silencing means no discussing the game on AIM as well. I think anyone that would argue "it's not specifically in the rules" already know they broke the rules and just want to get away with it {:P}

September 10, 2012
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Redack

Well, once lancer turned out guilty I knew it would either be me or Dooku. Ah well, at least I helped lynch lancer. (Sorry buddy, had to help out my team {:P}) I wasn't sold on 85 but he was still the next best target after lancer and it didn't look like we could convince the town to get lancer on Day 2.

This might be the first time I've been a Mafia kill. Proud moment for me, even if I would have preferred survival points.

Two games in a row Redack has been absolutely spot on (so far, anyway, we'll see about Zanic). Props to you sir. Thoughts about the rest of the Mafia?

September 11, 2012
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White Thunder

From what lancer is saying in here, plus the fact that they left Dooku alive to go after Zanic, I'm starting to think he might be innocent.

September 11, 2012
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White Thunder

I was going to warn you all to review the rules about deleting, but it appears there are no rules about deleting!

Don't delete without the Host's permission.

There. It will be added to the forum rules... Along with accessing the Mafia Panel without being a Host.

September 11, 2012
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Yeano

(Sorry buddy, had to help out my team )

No hard feelings, mate! Oh, and Redack's already been spoiled on the third Mafia member (although not, apparently, the Newcomer?), so don't let him pass that off to you as brilliance.

I actually completely disagree with Dooku's strategy on how to use the Sheriff right now. The best way to use the Sheriff is for him to lay low and hope to survive to the end--his killing power is really only useful when the Town's back is against the wall and they are waffling between two targets, or when someone needs to be lynched and they can't seem to get enough votes to lynch someone. Other than that, his real power is in the fact that he'd be a confirmed innocent, and that has a greater impact near the end of the game. The Town doesn't really lose much if he dies before using his power, so he can afford to wait on it (though I still say the opposite is true of the Watcher/Tracker if they have concrete info).

Oh, and for the record, Zanic and I have run into the IP issue Dooku is talking about before--in Xhin's game I saw his role a day or two (in-game) before I was killed (and he saw mine, but that was pretty much confirmed anyway). It didn't end up being a problem because by the time I saw it the roleclaim had already narrowed down the list of roles enough that it didn't matter, but the way I dealt with it then (and the way we'll deal with it in the future if it comes up) is that we simply won't comment on each other's roles. We're going to have to work out a system of making sure we log out after posting so that it will hopefully not be an issue, but it won't be foolproof.

September 11, 2012
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white lancer

Have you mentioned whether or not the Newcomer has joined the Mafia yet? Or would you rather not say?

September 11, 2012
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White Thunder

The Newcomer joined the Mafia the night before I was killed. I honestly don't care if you guys know who the Mafia is and I'd be fine sharing it as long as it doesn't leave this thread.

September 11, 2012
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white lancer

Some people like the intrigue of guessing. I don't mind being told if everyone else agrees, and of course I'm not gonna tell anyone else.

September 11, 2012
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White Thunder

Redack's already been spoiled on the third Mafia member (although not, apparently, the Newcomer?).

I have??? If I have then I honestly can't remember who it is, right now my main guesses are one of the people that was inactive at the start. Certainly if not mafia then at least one is a power role, the nights are taking the full time. As mentioned at the start I suspect Hez, based on agreement with something Feral said in the main thread... But the problem with Hez is that he doesn't post nearly enough and what he does post isn't usually much to go on. I'm also wondering about Frustro, we've not seen much of him so its hard to judge but he's been rather reserved about lynching potential mafias... Maybe he's just being cautious, or maybe he's being so in hopes of joining them. I can't tell. {:?}

I was going to warn you all to review the rules about deleting, but it appears there are no rules about deleting!

Don't delete without the Host's permission.

There. It will be added to the forum rules... Along with accessing the Mafia Panel without being a Host.


:( Normally I wouldn't but it was becoming tedious reading this post due to that god damned glitch and since it was the dead thread I thought you'd not mind {:(} Sorry :(

September 11, 2012
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Redack

Not my best game. It was unfortunate that I had to be in a terrible mood. I didn't even get to claim watcher.

Time for Redack to be full of himself.

September 11, 2012
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Zanic

Time for Redack to be full of himself.

Haha, well you have to admit he was spot on.

September 11, 2012
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White Thunder

I can't apologize enough, Majora. I was just SO pissed off at Knuckles for taking advantage of me and putting me at odds with the rest of the staff that I wanted to do anything to hurt him mentally, and knew that his biggest target was Mafia. It was a very un-admin-ly thing to do, and I am going to lay low for awhile, and not do any moderating stuff. Last thing this site needs right now is two unstable admins...

September 11, 2012
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Feral

Oh, and yeah, I now know all the roles. I plan to be VERY quiet in this thread so as not to spoil anything.

September 11, 2012
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Feral

Time for Redack to be full of himself.


Maybe later...

September 11, 2012
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Redack

You told me a couple of days ago that Majora told you who the Mafia are, Red! And I'm pretty sure I mentioned the last Mafia member to you once or twice assuming that you already knew.

Time for Redack to be full of himself.

As if Redack needs a specific time to be full of himself. :P

September 11, 2012
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white lancer

You told me a couple of days ago that Majora told you who the Mafia are, Red! And I'm pretty sure I mentioned the last Mafia member to you once or twice assuming that you already knew.

Lol, I actually can't remember who it is!

September 11, 2012
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Redack

You can't remember? Obviously you've been drinking too much. :P

September 11, 2012
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white lancer

...NOW Dooku realizes how ineffective the Watcher/Tracker can be. :-/ That's exactly why I said it would be better for the W/T to reveal if they had concrete info on the Silencer--they're really not useful for much else as long as the Ninja's alive. Funny how he jumps on me for suggesting that they reveal (and also jumps on Trever for suggesting a roleclaim) but then suggests pretty much the exact same thing--if he weren't confirmed innocent such screwy and all-over-the-place logic might get him lynched, but he can afford to do that since the Town knows not to go after him.

I guess there's a shot that the Watcher/Tracker revealing now would get them some info (there are a few things they might be able to virtually confirm--the presence of the Sleepwalkers might actually wind up helping them right now), but it's a risk because it might just wind up presenting the Mafia with easy targets. I probably would have had them lay low so that they could reveal near the end as confirmed innocents.

September 11, 2012
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white lancer

This could totally count as a spoiler, but the Watcher/Tracker results wouldn't reveal much at all except possibly leading the town in the wrong direction. Roxas missed one night when he was out, and Kassie missed two nights.

The two targets Kassie tracked both did nothing at night. Out of Roxas's three watcher reports, the only one where he got a hit was one showing Kassie visiting someone.

I can totally see Kassie ending up lynched if Roxas thinks she's the Newcomer, and she doesn't have time to claim Tracker.

September 11, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Oh, because, Kassie is the Tracker and Roxas is the Watcher.

Spoilers!

September 11, 2012
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MajorasMask9

I can totally see Kassie ending up lynched if Roxas thinks she's the Newcomer, and she doesn't have time to claim Tracker.

Except that I silenced Roxas.

September 11, 2012
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Zanic

Oh right.

Well, next round!

September 11, 2012
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MajorasMask9

I just realized that my plan to claim watcher would've been great because I had silenced Roxas.

September 11, 2012
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Zanic

I was looking forward to seeing what the outcome to that would have been. Was almost disappointed to see that Frustro decided to shoot you when he did.

September 11, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Um, yeah, with those results it absolutely wouldn't be worth it for them to reveal. Of course, they could think that maybe their results would be worth something with the other person's results so they might reveal anyway.

We were fairly confident Kassie was one of the two. Roxas was a little more interesting because he was playing weird, but obviously I knew he wasn't Mafia. I know for a while I thought he might be the Defense Attorney, but I think I was just generally uncertain. We were going to keep him alive for a while just because he didn't believe Dooku's story. I would expect Dooku to join us after this next round, as I know they were talking about killing him earlier; with the possibility of the Watcher/Tracker revealing tomorrow and the Sheriff already revealed, it would be the best option IMO--if they take out Dooku they'll be sure of taking out a confirmed innocent, which they need to do right now.

September 11, 2012
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white lancer

I think Trever might me Mafia, other than that I've got nothing.

September 11, 2012
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White Thunder

I was looking forward to seeing what the outcome to that would have been. Was almost disappointed to see that Frustro decided to shoot you when he did.

Yeah. If Frustro had waited like another hour to shoot me, I would've woken up and claimed the role.

September 12, 2012
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Zanic

This thread died...

September 12, 2012
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Feral

Seeing how this is the dead thread, It's quite fitting.

And I think Dooku is making a mistake. He seems to have left out a few more people {;)}

September 12, 2012
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Zanic

The suspense is killing me.

September 13, 2012
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White Thunder

@Majora- Just a suggestion, but you may want to give day 4 a 12 hour or so extention to make up for the downtime.

September 13, 2012
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Feral

Oh my gosh. Everyday is taking so long. It sucks being dead.

September 13, 2012
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Zanic

^^^ Also being host

I think we had two days and three nights so far that went the full 72/24 hours? I know that tomorrow is the two-week mark for the game.

September 13, 2012
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MajorasMask9

It's cool that the Town is putting Frustro's reveal to good use. Otherwise they'd have to waste today's vote on Zanic.

September 13, 2012
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white lancer

Don't know what hezy's been doing this day round. Does he think that the Town will just forget he existed if he doesn't post at all?

September 14, 2012
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white lancer

Between me, Shad, and 85, there are 3 townies gone, which means there are 4 townies remaining.

Chief, FAW, Serpe, CtR, JN, Trever, hezy. That's 7- two are Mafia and one is DA. I've been suspicious of Trever since Day 1, I'll guess he's the Ninja, and that hezy is the Newcomer, while CtR is the DA.

September 14, 2012
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White Thunder

Wahoo, got CtR right.

September 14, 2012
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White Thunder

Poor CtR gets pegged as suspicious every time except when he actually is Mafia.

September 14, 2012
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white lancer

Given how the Town's suspicions have been going, I would kill Roxas tonight if I were still alive. The Mafia should know by now who the Watcher and Tracker are and it is probably important to take them out soon. Of course, Dooku is still a confirmed innocent and he's doing a lot of thinking so taking him out might be important.

September 14, 2012
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white lancer

Unfortunately (for the mafia anyway), Kassie tracked Roxas in the last night round and saw him visiting Dooku. I imagine this is just going to end up with the two of them confirming each other's roles (or at the very least, confirming to Roxas that Kassie is the Tracker). If they roleclaim Tracker and Watcher I doubt hezekiah or the newcomer would counterclaim them.

When they do that the town will have 4 living confirmed innocent roles, and 6 people who will claim townie (including hez and the Newcomer). Dooku will probably go after hezekiah again this round, leaving the Newcomer as possibly the last mafia member, and in order for them to pull off a win they'd have to kill the 4 confirmed innocents and then sneak out of a 1v2 scenario.

Could be an intense ending, could be they both die consecutively in Days 5 and 6, though! Still looking forward to see what happens.

September 15, 2012
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MajorasMask9

I guess you just confirmed that hezy is Mafia, like I didn't know that already, especially looking at his post today, but thanks anyway.

September 15, 2012
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White Thunder

Kind of thought it was already brought up actually! Oh well

September 15, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Yeah, Frustro wasn't a terrible kill but out of the four confirmed innocents (not counting Xhin) he was the worst target because he wasn't a ringleader like Dooku and he didn't have any power left like Kassie or Roxas. Tough battle for the Mafia now especially with hezy drawing attention for being overly quiet.

September 15, 2012
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white lancer

So this is what Hell looks like.

... I like it.

September 15, 2012
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Frustro

Lol hezy is so dead

September 15, 2012
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White Thunder

Aaaand there goes the Ninja! With the help of the Tracker and Watcher, they'll hopefully weed out the Newcomer in short enough time. For some reason I'm thinking it's chiefsonny or Trever.

September 15, 2012
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Frustro

I was always thinking it was Trever. We'll see.

September 16, 2012
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White Thunder

These puns are killing me inside. (no)

September 16, 2012
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Frustro

Fuck all this roleclaiming.

Like seriously.

September 16, 2012
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hezekiah

Roleclaiming makes the game too damn formulaic, and I'm pretty sure I've been stuck as mafia just about every time it happens. Really fucking annoying to be done in by simple probabilities. And the goddamn downtime didn't help matters either. I checked in NUMEROUS times today, but the first time I got on, I was dead.

I suggested yesterday that FAW kill Roxas, the assumption being that he would stake out Kassie and see the kill otherwise. At least this way it's a 75% or whatever chance she skates through the night un-Tracked. We killed Frustro because he was absolutely confirmed as town-sided and not a townie. Roxas and Kassie, there were slight hopes of lynching. Obviously didn't work.

September 16, 2012
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hezekiah

Just posting here (kind of pointless since you guys aren't playing anymore! But it was the quickest way I could think of writing a message to mafia) to say that my Internet's been out for a while now and I may not be able to end the round too early today depending on why it's out. As of now all night actions are in, but I still need to grab a sleepwalker target and fix the playerlist on my computer, which could take a while. I'll try to update it as soon as we get Internet again.

And because the mafia probably wants to hear some good news, Roxas was watching Kassie, Kassie wasn't tracking FAW, and FAW kills Roxas. Turned out as good as it could have for the mafia I'd think!

September 16, 2012
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MajorasMask9

We'll see about that. Best would be if the person Kassie Tracked was the Sleepwalker, and visited Roxas tonight. Here's hoping.

September 16, 2012
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hezekiah

Well, last Mafia spoiled. Gonna be interesting to see how FAW handles being alone her first time as Mafia. I don't think she can win, but is she plays under the radar, she can last awhile. Of all thew "townies", chief will probably die next. There is already suspicion on him for some reason. Trever will go after that.

September 16, 2012
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Feral

I had acted on that last day round, saying I thought chief or FAW was the last mafia. Should be... fun?

September 16, 2012
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hezekiah

Could actually help her. By naming FAW, it makes it seem like a Mafia member WANTED her lynched, adding to her "innocence".

September 16, 2012
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Feral

It might help her, but the first time I saw that post I had already figured out you were Mafia and guessed that's what you might be doing. Of course it wasn't enough to convince me because until your post I thought Trever was the last Mafia, but people certainly might figure out that was your strategy.

September 16, 2012
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White Thunder

Well shoot, I thought JN, Serpe or Trever were the last Mafia.

I actually hadn't given much thought to who Mafia were this game. After Zanic's death, I was thinking hezekiah may be Mafia.

I think FAW may be able to pull this off though. She's a strong player.

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK.

Here I thought I'd make it to the end of the game. {:s}

September 16, 2012
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`Roxas`

AND PLEASE, STOP WITH THE PUNS.

September 16, 2012
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`Roxas`

I've only just started >:^]]]

September 16, 2012
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MajorasMask9

GO KASSIE! {:D} <3

September 16, 2012
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`Roxas`

It's always the fucking roleclaim.

September 16, 2012
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hezekiah

The reason I did not vote yesterday is that I work all day on weekends and I usually juuuuuust miss the chance to vote. Same thing happened to me a couple of times last game too.


That line made me laugh. Like the rounds end on a fixed schedule! If I were still alive, she would have fried herself. Let's see if anyone other then Kassie catches on.

September 16, 2012
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Feral

GO KASSIE!


nooOoo! If FAW dies I won't be able to make any more title puns. And that would just be horribly unFAWtunate.

September 16, 2012
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MajorasMask9

GO CHIEF <3

September 16, 2012
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MajorasMask9

chief's better than that. It's pretty much a given that Xhin is the Prosecutor and Dooku is the SCM.

And I agree Feral. The drawn out just would have done it.

September 16, 2012
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`Roxas`

... AIRA IS THE LAST MAFIA?! D<

That girl had me completely fooled. Like, lol wow. And now I think chiefsonny's gonna get it for voting for someone who's blatantly innocent.

September 16, 2012
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Frustro

FAW is Aria? Didn't know that...

September 16, 2012
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Feral

I get the feeling that Aria is a person on here, so no, she's Aira, from RPG Chat. RPer, Friend, Occasional Backstabber.

September 16, 2012
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Frustro

Lovely description, Frustro. {:P}

September 16, 2012
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`Roxas`

I'm just counting on her to see this later. {troll}

September 16, 2012
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Frustro

I'm sure she will.

September 16, 2012
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`Roxas`

Three votes from End Game.

September 17, 2012
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`Roxas`

Leggooo I want my winning points

September 17, 2012
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White Thunder

The only solace I take from this is that the puns will finally end~

September 17, 2012
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Frustro

Looks like FAW is going to get lynched, meaning the game is over. I'm glad this didn't turn out as conTREVERtial as some past games did, despite everything that's happened since it started. NATHAN really bad happened! When I left yesterday EEVEEning, I kind of thought Trever was going to get lynched, so I'm a bit SERPErised that FAW got the five votes in the end. Didn't COUNT on Kassie's argument being so persuasive. Looks like you townies managed to aCHIEF yet another win!

September 17, 2012
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MajorasMask9

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