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NOTE: If any moderator could sticky this thread, unsticky the Day 1 thread, and lock the Special Club Member's thread (League of Extraordinary Gentlement), that would be great.

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MajorasMask9

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Well, I'm the other special club member, for what good it does to reveal now.

Redack was highly suspicious of Lancer and Zanic in the special club thread, and went as far as to say that if he died during the night round he was sure Lancer was mafia.

In memory of the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (No normies allowed), I'm putting in a vote for Lancer.

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Count Dooku

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Well, last game Redack's suspicions were spot on, and it seemed like he was on the right track so far this game. However, killing lancer is a big step, especially since if he isn't Mafia that's a huge blow to the town. I'm on the fence about this one- what were his reasons?

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Redack was particularly suspicious of what Lancer said here:

if they know who visited the silenced player, they may want to reveal a little early since they've more than likely figured out the Silencer.

Given that on a normal day round we have a few people who are quiet, it seems like an attempt to get the watcher/tracker to reveal early so the mafia can kill them off. The silencer isn't really a big deal to the town IMO, so POTENTIALLY sacrificing him to kill off the watcher or tracker is a smart play...

More than that, and this is really just circumstantial, Redack mentioned yesterday that he was going to accuse Lancer on AIM of being mafia to see what happened. That he appears dead after doing such is rather telling.

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First off, I'm floored that Dooku and Redack wound up in the Special Club together and I don't think there's any real reason to doubt that claim (although if Dooku's lying and you're the real other member of the Special Club, please come forward). That being said, I'm not in the Mafia and going off of "X would want Y dead" never works because there are always a number of reasons to kill off players, including simply to make other players look suspicious. My guess is that Redack was taken out just because he talked a lot last round and the Mafia were wary of him.

Redack's instincts are usually good, but ultimately they're just instincts and they're wrong this time. I was aware he was suspicious of me and also aware that he would have told other people of his suspicions of me, so I was hoping he would survive the night. Killing him wouldn't have accomplished anything if I were Mafia because it would just have made me look more suspicious.

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Given that on a normal day round we have a few people who are quiet, it seems like an attempt to get the watcher/tracker to reveal early so the mafia can kill them off. The silencer isn't really a big deal to the town IMO, so POTENTIALLY sacrificing him to kill off the watcher or tracker is a smart play...

The Silencer is 1/4 of the Mafia (and only 3 of those 4 are capable of being caught by the W/T) so it's worth sacrificing the Watcher/Tracker in order to catch the Silencer. Ultimately it pays off much more for the Town (especially since we would still have the other role along with the Nurse, Sheriff, and Special Club Members) because 1 special role for 1 Mafia is a good trade-off.

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Killing him wouldn't have accomplished anything if I were Mafia because it would just have made me look more suspicious.

No... it wouldn't have. Redack basically ignored you in the day thread yesterday, his suspicions were only broadcast in the Special Club thread.

Redack's instincts are usually good, but ultimately they're just instincts and they're wrong this time.

Last game he had me, Yeano, and Roxas figured out :P He's generally been spot on and he had one final suspicion.

Basically, Redack notes that you don't typically defend Zanic. In past games, you've not made excuses for what he was up to or why he wasn't posting. But this game, we got this:

Sorry for my absence, guys. I'm obviously not Silenced--Zanic and I were at a family gathering this weekend.

Now it does explain your absence... but it also covers for Zanic, which I find interesting.

The Silencer is 1/4 of the Mafia (and only 3 of those 4 are capable of being caught by the W/T) so it's worth sacrificing the Watcher/Tracker in order to catch the Silencer. Ultimately it pays off much more for the Town (especially since we would still have the other role along with the Nurse, Sheriff, and Special Club Members) because 1 special role for 1 Mafia is a good trade-off.

I have to disagree, because the watcher/tracker can help us find ALL the mafia, not just one member. The difference is, when we lose that '1 special role for 1 mafia' it just helps the mafia hide better. That's a net loss for the town.

I'm trusting Redack on this.

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Count Dooku

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=No... it wouldn't have. Redack basically ignored you in the day thread yesterday, his suspicions were only broadcast in the Special Club thread.

Yes, it would have, because as I said I knew Redack would have mentioned his suspicions to someone else.

=Basically, Redack notes that you don't typically defend Zanic.

I don't typically defend Zanic, and I wasn't defending him there. I'm not sure what role he has, but it's always good to have some form of accountability to explain for one's absence and he could provide that for me. If he lied and said we weren't gone that weekend, I would have known something was up. I'm fairly confident I've said something like this in previous games (that Zanic and I were both gone for some reason or another) and I'll try to dig it up when I get a chance.

=I have to disagree, because the watcher/tracker can help us find ALL the mafia, not just one member. The difference is, when we lose that '1 special role for 1 mafia' it just helps the mafia hide better. That's a net loss for the town.

It's not a net loss for the Town though, not when there are so few Mafia members to begin with. The Watcher/Tracker can help us find three total members of the Mafia (not all the Mafia, as the Ninja is immune). Taking down one member for the Mafia (especially a powerful role like the Silencer) is 100% worth it with the current setup IMO, because 1) we have multiple detecting roles, so that we won't be left in the dark if one of them goes down; 2) the roles that we have are potentially powerful but unreliable, so even getting one solid Mafia confirmation is potentially more than we can hope for; 3) if the W/T get any valuable information, there's no guarantee that they won't be the Mafia's next target, so they should share any good info they get when they have a chance rather than risk losing it when the Mafia targets them; 4) it's not even a 100% sacrifice because of the presence of the Nurse, who isn't completely useful as a protection role but might serve as a deterrent for the Mafia if they think the Nurse would be protecting a claimed role--they might not even target the W/T for fear that the Nurse has them covered.

There are a lot of reasons why an early Watcher or Tracker reveal would be beneficial--#2 and #3 in combination are especially important IMO--and honestly, you don't seem to have thought this all the way through. Yes, Redack's instincts are usually pretty good, but they're obviously not infallible. Last game he got you and Yeano but he was completely wrong on his third choice, which he thought was either Shadow or Xhin, and he's completely wrong here.

No... it wouldn't have. Redack basically ignored you in the day thread yesterday, his suspicions were only broadcast in the Special Club thread.

Yes, it would have, because as I said I knew Redack would have mentioned his suspicions to someone else.

Basically, Redack notes that you don't typically defend Zanic.

I don't typically defend Zanic, and I wasn't defending him there. I'm not sure what role he has, but it's always good to have some form of accountability to explain for one's absence and he could provide that for me. If he lied and said we weren't gone that weekend, I would have known something was up. I'm fairly confident I've said something like this in previous games (that Zanic and I were both gone for some reason or another) and I'll try to dig it up when I get a chance.

I have to disagree, because the watcher/tracker can help us find ALL the mafia, not just one member. The difference is, when we lose that '1 special role for 1 mafia' it just helps the mafia hide better. That's a net loss for the town.

It's not a net loss for the Town though, not when there are so few Mafia members to begin with. The Watcher/Tracker can help us find three total members of the Mafia (not all the Mafia, as the Ninja is immune). Taking down one member for the Mafia (especially a powerful role like the Silencer) is 100% worth it with the current setup IMO, because 1) we have multiple detecting roles, so that we won't be left in the dark if one of them goes down; 2) the roles that we have are potentially powerful but unreliable, so even getting one solid Mafia confirmation is potentially more than we can hope for; 3) if the W/T get any valuable information, there's no guarantee that they won't be the Mafia's next target, so they should share any good info they get when they have a chance rather than risk losing it when the Mafia targets them; 4) it's not even a 100% sacrifice because of the presence of the Nurse, who isn't completely useful as a protection role but might serve as a deterrent for the Mafia if they think the Nurse would be protecting a claimed role--they might not even target the W/T for fear that the Nurse has them covered.

There are a lot of reasons why an early Watcher or Tracker reveal would be beneficial--#2 and #3 in combination are especially important IMO--and honestly, you don't seem to have thought this all the way through. Yes, Redack's instincts are usually pretty good, but they're obviously not infallible. Last game he got you and Yeano but he was completely wrong on his third choice, which he thought was either Shadow or Xhin, and he's completely wrong here.

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white lancer

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Yes, it would have, because as I said I knew Redack would have mentioned his suspicions to someone else.

How would the mafia know that killing Redack would make you appear suspicious? They didn't know he was Special Club. They didn't know he'd be talking to me about his suspicions.

You're a valuable player for the town, and lynching you isn't something I'd do lightly, but the more we argue the more certain I am that you're mafia (and if you're mafia, I'm certain Zanic is mafia too).

The fact that you want our only information gathering roles revealed and out of the way is especially telling to me. It isn't a good strategy because like a role claim it just tells the mafia who to kill.

I'm standing by my vote, and I hope the town will too.

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Count Dooku

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The Mafia wouldn't have known that killing Redack would make me look suspicious, but if I were Mafia I would have known. It wouldn't have made sense for me to do that, knowing that Redack would have a backup system ready, since it wouldn't accomplish anything.

I'm fairly confident that you aren't Mafia, unless there's a counter-claim on the Special Club, which is why I'm a little confused as to why you don't see the strategy behind the Watcher or Tracker coming forward. Perhaps you think it would be better for them to hoard their information and get killed off before they have a chance to share? That's quite frankly a stupid strategy and usually you're smarter than that. The fact that you can't see the merits of the strategy makes me think you're just too caught up in your instincts to look at the facts. :-/

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white lancer

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seemed a tad suspicious of Dooku as well, don't forget.

Anyway, not really sure what to believe. As a townie, i've recklessly voted with only circumstantial evidence (what we have here with Lancer) and encouraged votes that either turned out to actually be our enemies (saying enemies cause there were some 3rd party ones in the past) or important townie roles. Point is, Lancer may well be a key role. Plus all we have is still mere suspicion anyway.

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Shad~

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The Mafia wouldn't have known that killing Redack would make me look suspicious, but if I were Mafia I would have known. It wouldn't have made sense for me to do that, knowing that Redack would have a backup system ready, since it wouldn't accomplish anything.

When I was mafia last game I did things that 'Wouldn't make sense if I were mafia' and they ended up winning the game for the mafia. I'm not buying your explanations Lancer, Redack's hit another nail on the head.

I'm fairly confident that you aren't Mafia, unless there's a counter-claim on the Special Club, which is why I'm a little confused as to why you don't see the strategy behind the Watcher or Tracker coming forward. Perhaps you think it would be better for them to hoard their information and get killed off before they have a chance to share? That's quite frankly a stupid strategy and usually you're smarter than that. The fact that you can't see the merits of the strategy makes me think you're just too caught up in your instincts to look at the facts. :-/

Without a doctor, having them come forward is suicide. The nurse blocks their night abilities, making them useless. The fact that you're still arguing for a strategy that so blatantly loses us power roles makes me extremely suspicious of you because you're a BETTER PLAYER than that.

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Count Dooku

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... Personally, I think Dooku is tell the truth. I just like throwing all the possibilities. And claiming the other Special member is like the perfect cover atm.

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Shad~

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This is all very interesting since I was the other member of the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Redack told me to keep my mouth shut because of what happened last game, but I feel like I should step forward since Dooku seems pretty adamant about his role.

Redack didn't *really* find Dooku suspicious, he just has a habit of always targeting his friend and he told me earlier he hopes the mafia kills him with poisonous spiders.

Redack did in fact find Zanic suspicious, though he mentioned talking to Dooku about it right before he died. The white lancer thing is totally out of left field though, which makes me think Dooku's insistence on killing him is because he has ulterior motives. Really, killing a possible tracker or watcher this early in the game isn't worth it.

It's definitely a strange move, but then again Dooku convinced the remaining town to vote his way last game. I'd like to figure out what his actual motive is for it before the day round ends.

If you guys are interested, I'll paraphrase everything Redack said here, but the fact that I'm the one revealing it (even though redack said it) might sway you guys' opinions too much, and I'm trying to avoid a repeat of last game.

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Xhin

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Well, two people are claiming it. That means one is almost certainly mafia. We should prolly pick between the two with who we find most suspicious atm. Dooku, or Xhin.

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Shad~

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=Paraphrase of the Leage of Extraordinary Gentlemen

No actual quotes are given here, because it breaks forum/game rules. I'm also omitting my own input and the inevitable banter we get into (except the opening line, because that was actually pretty funny).

** Redack says hi, but gets a bit irate that he's paired with the guy who broke the last game. He tells MM9 to host kill me and save the town.

** He says that Dooku is too active this game and deserves to be killed with poisonous spiders.

** After some banter, I tell him that I'm pretty busy IRL, and he says that's good and even if I get unbusy, I should just keep my mouth shut and let him handle our role.

** He says that Shad is playing a terrible game, but he doesn't think he's guilty.

** I panic a little bit when he says in the main thread that he's convinced I'm innocent, but he points out that he was talking about white thunder, and I should fix team phoenix instead of misinterpreting everything.

** A bit of banter while we choose the name "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" for ourselves. He wants "Legion of Doom" but I tell him that we're townie-sided so we should try to roleplay more with our roles, to which he tells me that if he wanted to roleplay he would hire himself to JS. MM9 likes the name though. I end with the greatest joke ever (which he doesn't respond to :(((( )

** Long pause and then he tells me he thinks Zanic is playing under the radar, or trying and failing to.

** The round's coming to a close, so that night we talk about who our suspicions are. I think Feral is suspicious, but he talks me out of it because he says I'm overanalyzing things. He suggests I get on AIM, but I want there to be a record of things just in case, while he thinks I'm being overly paranoid but agrees. I can go over this in more detail, but we basically convinced each other to not think anyone was suspicious  so it was pretty fruitless (except for the Zanic thing, which he wouldn't let go of).

** I promised I'd evaluate his suspicions in more detail (because I was basically just saying no to be contrary), but IRL and laziness apparently caught up so by the time I got back online, he was dead.

Paraphrase of the Leage of Extraordinary Gentlemen

No actual quotes are given here, because it breaks forum/game rules. I'm also omitting my own input and the inevitable banter we get into (except the opening line, because that was actually pretty funny).

Redack says hi, but gets a bit irate that he's paired with the guy who broke the last game. He tells MM9 to host kill me and save the town.

He says that Dooku is too active this game and deserves to be killed with poisonous spiders.

After some banter, I tell him that I'm pretty busy IRL, and he says that's good and even if I get unbusy, I should just keep my mouth shut and let him handle our role.

He says that Shad is playing a terrible game, but he doesn't think he's guilty.

I panic a little bit when he says in the main thread that he's convinced I'm innocent, but he points out that he was talking about white thunder, and I should fix team phoenix instead of misinterpreting everything.

A bit of banter while we choose the name "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" for ourselves. He wants "Legion of Doom" but I tell him that we're townie-sided so we should try to roleplay more with our roles, to which he tells me that if he wanted to roleplay he would hire himself to JS. MM9 likes the name though. I end with the greatest joke ever (which he doesn't respond to :(((( )

Long pause and then he tells me he thinks Zanic is playing under the radar, or trying and failing to.

The round's coming to a close, so that night we talk about who our suspicions are. I think Feral is suspicious, but he talks me out of it because he says I'm overanalyzing things. He suggests I get on AIM, but I want there to be a record of things just in case, while he thinks I'm being overly paranoid but agrees. I can go over this in more detail, but we basically convinced each other to not think anyone was suspicious so it was pretty fruitless (except for the Zanic thing, which he wouldn't let go of).

I promised I'd evaluate his suspicions in more detail (because I was basically just saying no to be contrary), but IRL and laziness apparently caught up so by the time I got back online, he was dead.

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Xhin

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Oh and he mentions talking to Dooku over AIM late that night (crazy Brit sleep schedules). I'm not posting the AIM logs here, because we really shouldn't be talking outside of the game anyway. Basically though he just said that he thought Dooku was most likely innocent even though he wished he was the vigilante so he could kill him.

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Xhin

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Hold on now. I don't understand everyone's suspicions of me. Dooku says that he finds me suspicious because Lancer posted about him and me being at a family reunion? That is completely ridiculous. Especially the part where Dooku says that Lancer has never posted about me being gone. That's just wrong. Earlier during June, I recall being gone for an entire week and Lancer posting that I would be out of town.

As for Redack, I don't understand why he thinks my behavior is off of what it normally is. I've posted maybe once due to the fact that I am back in school and unable to be on here all hours of the day.

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Well, Redack never used that logic in the L.E.G. thread unless he told Dooku and didn't tell me :(

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Xhin

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Wow, what an interesting development.

Xhin's story seems convincing. This just sounds too much like a real developing conversation between Xhin and Redack, if you know them both well enough and how they speak to each other.

Count Dooku's story is a bit more... unusual. Not entirely unbelievable, but made in a way that seems a bit too natural and normally said by someone like Redack. He has some evidence against white lancer, but it's not nearly enough to make me suspect Lancer.

I would think Dooku is Mafia before Xhin or white lancer, but for the moment I will hold off to see how this develops. Dooku may just be the Prosecutor.

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Trever Leingod

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Something isn't adding up, and I'm not refering to Xhin's suspicion of me...

Shad, how come you didn't pass along Roxas' message like he asked you too? The one about his sudden absence for family reasons? Did you not want it known he was away? Probably wanted us to think he was silenced, since the real silencing victim was..... NOBODY!

The Silencer was blocked and couldn't silence anybody. The only individuals who didn't post last day were Roxas and hezekiah(both now known to be away) and Kassie(for whom inactivity is the norm).

So the question is, who got role blocked? The Hooker wouldn't target the Silencer, so it must have been whomever the Nurse targeted.

Now for the fun part. "I" am the nurse, and my target in day 1 was... Xhin!

Xhin must have figured out that I was the one who blocked him when I started discussing the silenced party, hense his "suspicion" of me.

How's THAT for a theory? ;D

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Feral

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Point of that last thread is that I think both Xhin and Shad are Mafia now.

{b}Feral votes for Xhin{/b}

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Feral

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Shad, how come you didn't pass along Roxas' message like he asked you too? The one about his sudden absence for family reasons? Did you not want it known he was away? Probably wanted us to think he was silenced, since the real silencing victim was..... NOBODY!

Tf? I copied and pasted it like he said. He didn't say anything about that to me.

Point of that last thread is that I think both Xhin and Shad are Mafia now.

{b}Feral votes for Xhin{/b}

Thats cute. His story just made sense to me. Once again, you'd just be wasting ammo on a townie.

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Shad~

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This was all I had:

you mind copying and pasting this to the main thread when it is opened? Include the timestamp and all for when this message was set. Hello fellow Mafia players. I probably will not have steady internet access through this Labor Day Weekend. I am in the process of helping a friend move her father's apartment in to his new house. If this does change, I will try to gain access to the site. Best of luck everybody, and see you when I get back!

I left out the first part obviously because it was irrelevant. So don't give me shit for his vagueness. I just delivered the message as he said to.

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Shad~

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Funny. He messeged me on FB asking me to inform the staff of his situation, "like Knux posted in the Mafia thread for me".

Unless I missed something(and I apologize if I did), you never posted any such message.

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Anyway, with a stunt like that, i'm now 80% sure Feral is mafia. I never got anything about what he said at all, and he prolly just made it up in some odd attempt to frame me. And idc how out of character for him that sounds.

Dooku, and Feral are both likely mafia in fact. Feral just had to think something up to take the aim off Dooku, don't fall for his tricks.

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Shad~

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Unless I missed something(and I apologize if I did), you never posted any such message.

reply number 1346528633 in the last thread for this game.

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Shad~

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Aww FUCK!

Just looked back through day 1 and Shad DID relay Roxas' message. Don't know how I managed to overlook that, but my game is over. Go ahead and lynch me. You will be doing me a favor since the Mafia is guarenteed to kill me tonight, now that I have revealed in vain.

With no theory, no suspicions, and virtually no chance of surviving to day 3, there is no reason for me to continue playing.(Not angry, just feel like an idiot)

Enjoy the game, guys, and I will see about ressurecting the League with Red in the Dead thread.

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Feral

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Eh... It looked like you were trying to just screw me over purposely. Though I was disturbed when Redack, and someone else brought him up in the last thread about him being talkactive, and prolly silenced as if I had never posted it.

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Shad~

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Relax, Feral. Redack already argued me out of thinking you're suspicious. Problem is, you *always* make yourself look more suspicious as time goes on :P

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Xhin

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Yeah, that was me, because I missed your reply and didn't know he was away. Honest, but fatal, mistake.

If it's worth anything, I targeting Dooku this round.

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Feral

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Thanks, Xhin, but I'm still, in all likelyhood, dead. I now have a HUGE bull's eye on me and no means of protection. There is no Earthly reason why the Mafia WOULDN'T take atvantage of a guarenteed kill on such a big threat to them, since I can roleblock the Silencer, Ninja, and New Comer.

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Feral

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Thanks, Xhin, but I'm still, in all likelyhood, dead. I now have a HUGE bull's eye on me and no means of protection. There is no Earthly reason why the Mafia WOULDN'T take atvantage of a guarenteed kill on such a big threat to them, since I can roleblock the Silencer, Ninja, and New Comer.

Then see if you can save yourself. May as well. At least we'd better know your on our side, which could help us.

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Shad~

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Impossible. The fact that I would also roleblock myself would cause a paradox. Majora foresaw that and put that I can't target myself in my description.

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Feral

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What? It'd just make you a normal townie for night. I don't see why it's so harmful. Oh well.

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Shad~

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I have received a message from Count Dooku that he would like me to share.

say I'm at work and would like a chance to reply... I can't get logged on my phone...

-Count Dooku

Basically he wants to reply before you lynch him, but can't access the site at the moment. Your guys's call.

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I've already explained how my strategy is valid, Dooku, so if you're just going to ignore that I'm not going to bother arguing with you about it any more. It does make me a little suspicious of you because you should be able to see the strength in that strategy, but I also have some issues with Xhin's story. I know that Redack thought I was suspicious, and I don't know why he wouldn't tell his special guild partner about that. My vote will go toward one of those two, but there are reasons to be suspicious of both so I want to see how this plays out; right now, though, unless Xhin has a REALLY good explanation, I'm leaning toward voting for him.

Also, Feral's reveal makes me a little nervous. I would support the Nurse revealing if they had a good reason to think they had stopped a Mafia kill (because then they most likely would have roleblocked the Ninja, opening things up for the Tracker/Watcher to get the remaining Mafia members), but the Silencer is more iffy because the Mafia could choose just not to silence someone.

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white lancer

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... Aside from the ghost of Redack haunting this game and throwing everything into chaos...

Redirecting back to the whole Dooku thing, it doesn't make much sense why he would pose as the other Spe-- League member. It couldn't have been a Mafia plot just to draw out the other Gentleman, seeing how the role is entirely useless now. Not to mention it's a bad move to try to incriminate white lancer using that stunt if he is the Prosecutor. I'm not saying he is - I think Xhin more than proved he was the real second Gent. Personally, I'll wait for Dooku's explanation before voting for him, though.

And it's okay, Feral. For what it's worth, I'll now always envision you as the Joker in his nurse outfit. /megusta

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Frustro

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SPECIAL CLUB, SPECIAL CLUB, SPECIAL CLUB!

Any way, I will review Day One Thread and make notes and list them here, then do the same thing here (once I am done eating dinner).

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I'm wondering if Xhin is the Prosecutor and Count is his target.....

I mean, I'm wondering what the odds are that, if Count were Mafia, he would pretend to be the club member when the real club member can speak up? This is cause for doubt, but then again he could be counting on such doubt to protect him.

If he's telling the truth, I have no idea why Xhin would claim the club member role since it would be suicide, but if he's the Prosecutor targeting Count, at least Xhin would die with two extra points.

Honestly I'm weary of both of them right now, but I'm more suspicious of Count. I won't rule out the possibility Xhin's story is an elaborate fabrication, but it really is convincing.

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Jo Nathan

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Certainly casts guilt on Dooku. I will also wait for his response. Worst comes to worst is that Dooku isn't lying and we lynch him; however, at that point we know that Xhin is Mafia or Prosecutor and that both lancer and Zanic have a high probability of being Mafia. Win-win.

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White Thunder

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Okay, so here's what I observed from Day One:

Role Reveal

As always, this seems to be brought up on Day One (seemingly only AFTER my Cop play). Trever says this is a maybe in his mind and that it could be beneficial. White Thunder thinks it would be better to save this until later on (1346518873). Redack (1346505226) and Dooku (1346521323).

Random notes:

Knux doesn't observe no Cop this game (1346536138). In my opinion, he makes up for this by pointing out the Ninja can cover his or her tracks (1346538058). Feral (1346545178) brings up thinking for ourselves. #85 makes a remark about no voting (1346592583).

Votes:
Knux randomly votes for White Thunder (1346529119).
Xhin no kills.
Knux randomly changes his vote to Serpe.
#85 no kills (134668329). I find this a bit off after his remarks I noted above.
Jo Nathan no kills.
white lancer is not voting.
Redack no kills. He also predicts his death (1346707578).
FAW no kills.
White Thunder no kills.
white lancer changes to no kill.
chiefsonny votes for Kassie. Immediately changes to not voting.

=END OF DAY ONE

Day Two:

Redack does indeed die in Night One, as he predicted.
Dooku claims as the other Special Club Member. He goes on to say that Redack was suspicious of brothers lancer and Zanic. He votes for lancer.
Knux randomly votes for hezekiah.
Xhin counterclaims the SCM (1346878945) and votes for Dooku.
Knux changes his vote to Dooku.

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`Roxas`

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I still don't understand. Why would I have a high probability of being mafia. I've done nothing to insinuate that other than a gut feeling which is basically useless.

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Zanic

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In all honesty, I don't see the basis of suspicion on you either, Zanic.

I am leaning towards voting for Dooku, but I will wait for him to come back and make some replies or see if there is any other "evidence" others may have gathered in support of or against Dooku.

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`Roxas`

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Thats a very oddly specific list..

Anyway, i'm waiting on what Dooku says as well. I'm doing a guilty till proven innocent thing. (look)

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Shad~

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Actually, thinking about it I'm not sure either of these guys are Mafia. It seems strange for a Mafia member to claim to be part of the Special Club without being part of it (since they can just be counter-claimed), and there really doesn't seem to be any benefit to it. My money is on Xhin being the Prosecutor.

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white lancer

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Actually, thinking about it I'm not sure either of these guys are Mafia. It seems strange for a Mafia member to claim to be part of the Special Club without being part of it (since they can just be counter-claimed), and there really doesn't seem to be any benefit to it. My money is on Xhin being the Prosecutor.

That dosn't make any sense either cause then he's just as much risking himself getting lynched, which dosn't really help him other than point-wise if he does. And the idea of hiding under the secret club is with all this talking going on, Dooku prolly caught wind that Redack told Xhin to say nothing, thus if he did, he prolly saw this as a free ticket to innocence.

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Shad~

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I found Count Dooku suspicious when I read what he said so I'm on board for that

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#85

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But why would either Dooku or Xhin expose themselves needlessly like this? If Dooku was Mafia and wanted me dead, he could easily accomplish that with a nightkill rather than try to ram it through the Town. And if Xhin was Mafia why would he claim a role that was already out in the open like that? Doesn't seem worth it since neither of them were really under any suspicion beforehand.

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white lancer

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I really do need to put a sticky note on my laptop to check this thread. I missed the night round. :( I actually was here during the first day round but I was silenced. *shakes fist at Silencer*

For what it's worth, I'll now always envision you as the Joker in his nurse outfit. /megusta

I chortled at that.

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Kassie The Eevee

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But why would either Dooku or Xhin expose themselves needlessly like this? If Dooku was Mafia and wanted me dead, he could easily accomplish that with a nightkill rather than try to ram it through the Town. And if Xhin was Mafia why would he claim a role that was already out in the open like that? Doesn't seem worth it since neither of them were really under any suspicion beforehand.

Because Dooku prolly assumed he wouldn't be exposed, and Xhin felt he had to step up and say something so he can't steal an innocent ticket. Way I see this anyway.

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Shad~

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yeah i personally think that would be a really dumb thing for a mafia member to try. count dooku's not inexperienced, he's very good as we saw last game. i dont think mafia would risk one member in the attempt to lynch one townie.

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CtR Black

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Some people don't think everything through is another thing, so theres a fair chance he didn't have a logical reason at the time IF my theory is correct.

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Shad~

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Five people have not posted this round:

1. CtR Black
2. Female Alpha Wolf
3. Serpe
4. hezekiah
5. chiefsonny

@Whomever the watcher is- might be a good idea to stake out my place tonight. Either you will discover a Mafia breaking in to kill me or scare them off, allowing me to live another day. Win-win for me.

I, myself, do not plan to use my abilities tonight.

September 6, 2012

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Feral

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lol, scratch CtR from the list!

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Feral

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count dooku's not inexperienced, he's very good as we saw last game. i dont think mafia would risk one member in the attempt to lynch one townie.

It does seem that way, but I wouldn't rule him out completely. He certainly is a crafty one, and after the bold moves by Yeano to cement his apparent innocence early on in the previous game, I won't be surprised by anything.

I have to think now... I want to place a vote tonight but I don't know for whom.

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Jo Nathan

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I wouldn't put it past Dooku to have used Yeano's "cup-switch strategy" or whatever that reverse-reverse-reverse-reverse psychology idea was, by using such a blatantly reckless move to make us start questioning whether he couldn't be Mafia because of that move or if he knew we'd assume that.

But, again, we'll have to wait for his side of the story.

September 6, 2012

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Frustro

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I am posting so that you guys know I'm not Silenced or whatever. Today has been a horrible day and honestly, this has been the last thing on my mind.

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I wouldn't put it past Dooku to have used Yeano's "cup-switch strategy" or whatever that reverse-reverse-reverse-reverse psychology idea was, by using such a blatantly reckless move to make us start questioning whether he couldn't be Mafia because of that move or if he knew we'd assume that

I watched that game very briefly. That sort of thing happened just about every game with SOMEONE, from what I saw. Some sort of reverse psychology, or more than one reverse. Yeano just did it more brilliantly. Thats something you always gotta watch out for.

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Shad~

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No problem, FAW. We all have off days.

At this point, I am confident that chief is the Silenced one.

hezekiah has been MIA from the site since last week...

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Feral

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Okay, defense time. You've no idea how annoying it is to be at work and be informed you're about to be lynched.

Xhin isn't mafia, I'm certain of that. Counter claiming me, when my death will only reveal 'Count Dooku the other Special Club Member' doesn't help the mafia at all. I'm essentially a townie at this point, so there's no point.

The only real answer is that Xhin must be the prosecutor, just trying to fulfill his role. I gave him the opening he needed when I claimed Special Club, and he took it.

Please understand that if I am mafia, claiming special club IN THE SECOND POST OF THE DAY would be suicide. Its easily counter claimed by the real club member.

But Dooku, you say, surely if you were mafia you could have silenced the other special club member!

If I have that kind of luck, I'll be off to Vegas in the morning. Killing one special club member and silencing another? Astounding!

I'd like to think I'm a good mafia player. I've had my fair share of excellent observations (Hezekiah having janitored and assumed the role of sniper, for example). I wouldn't risk a useless roleclaim that has no benefit to myself or the mafia.

That said, I'd like to officially file a complaint with the host over Xhin's FAKE account of what happened in the Special Club thread. Its a clear violation of the mafia rules:

=You may not under any circumstance (unless specified by the Host), copy and paste any of the information contained in a role specific thread (Mafia Thread, Doctor Thread, Sheriff Thread, etc.) or make up content from one of those threads and portray it as having been copied and pasted. This also applies to screenshots of the thread. If this is done, the Host will take action accordingly (which can result in an in-game sanction, host-kill, or, if particularly egregious, a ban from the forum). This also applies for your role.

He made up content (because, frankly, as the real Club member I KNOW its made up) and presented it as genuine. Honestly, this kind of shenanigan is out of line as far as I'm concerned.

So there you have it. I'm Special Club, and the way me and Redack proposed/defended positions on Day 1 shows pretty clearly we were working together. Xhin is the prosecutor trying to get me lynched for his points, and he's done an impressive (if dirty, in my opinion) job of incriminating me.

But if you lot are worth a damn, you'll see it makes no sense for me to be claiming special club as a member of the mafia. Not one damn cent worth of sense.

Meanwhile, the mafia must be enjoying our sidetrack to Prosecutorial Misconduct Town. I'm keeping my vote for Lancer, and I hope that if I die, by the town's hand or the mafia's, that when you see I'm Special Club you'll lynch Lancer for me to atone for your misdeeds!

Okay, defense time. You've no idea how annoying it is to be at work and be informed you're about to be lynched.

Xhin isn't mafia, I'm certain of that. Counter claiming me, when my death will only reveal 'Count Dooku the other Special Club Member' doesn't help the mafia at all. I'm essentially a townie at this point, so there's no point.

The only real answer is that Xhin must be the prosecutor, just trying to fulfill his role. I gave him the opening he needed when I claimed Special Club, and he took it.

Please understand that if I am mafia, claiming special club IN THE SECOND POST OF THE DAY would be suicide. Its easily counter claimed by the real club member.

But Dooku, you say, surely if you were mafia you could have silenced the other special club member!

If I have that kind of luck, I'll be off to Vegas in the morning. Killing one special club member and silencing another? Astounding!

I'd like to think I'm a good mafia player. I've had my fair share of excellent observations (Hezekiah having janitored and assumed the role of sniper, for example). I wouldn't risk a useless roleclaim that has no benefit to myself or the mafia.

That said, I'd like to officially file a complaint with the host over Xhin's FAKE account of what happened in the Special Club thread. Its a clear violation of the mafia rules:

You may not under any circumstance (unless specified by the Host), copy and paste any of the information contained in a role specific thread (Mafia Thread, Doctor Thread, Sheriff Thread, etc.) or make up content from one of those threads and portray it as having been copied and pasted. This also applies to screenshots of the thread. If this is done, the Host will take action accordingly (which can result in an in-game sanction, host-kill, or, if particularly egregious, a ban from the forum). This also applies for your role.

He made up content (because, frankly, as the real Club member I KNOW its made up) and presented it as genuine. Honestly, this kind of shenanigan is out of line as far as I'm concerned.

So there you have it. I'm Special Club, and the way me and Redack proposed/defended positions on Day 1 shows pretty clearly we were working together. Xhin is the prosecutor trying to get me lynched for his points, and he's done an impressive (if dirty, in my opinion) job of incriminating me.

But if you lot are worth a damn, you'll see it makes no sense for me to be claiming special club as a member of the mafia. Not one damn cent worth of sense.

Meanwhile, the mafia must be enjoying our sidetrack to Prosecutorial Misconduct Town. I'm keeping my vote for Lancer, and I hope that if I die, by the town's hand or the mafia's, that when you see I'm Special Club you'll lynch Lancer for me to atone for your misdeeds!

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Count Dooku

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Voting No Kill for now, just because I don't think either Dooku or Xhin are Mafia and I don't want either of them to die. I'm willing to change my vote if there's some compelling evidence against someone else but I think voting either of them out would be a mistake.

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That's good enough for me. It does add up entirely if what Dooku is saying is correct.

I do still want to point out that #85 came across as... wanting to get a lynch when it looked that was the way things were going in Day One, but then reversing to No Kill later on in the round. I still find it a bit off, but not enough to garner a vote from me.

My vote is not intended to be an attack on the person. As Feral said, what we need to do is avoid mob mentality as was the case last game and in early games and go as we individually want to do. I'm going with the person I feel may be tricking us in to believing that he or she (or non-gender binary pronoun here) may be playing us as a simple -minded bunch as it came across last game.

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`Roxas`

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It wasn't copied and pasted though, it was paraphrased. I'm well within the rules here. I didn't even share my awesome joke.

But if you lot are worth a damn, you'll see it makes no sense for me to be claiming special club as a member of the mafia. Not one damn cent worth of sense.

I know, which is why the only explanation I can come up with is that you think other people will question it not making any sense and won't vote for you because of it. That's actually a brilliant overall strategy -- you'd get to seem like the L.E.G. but if someone counterclaimed you'd have a defense against it.

As for the motivation, well, you were the first person to target someone this game (white lancer). It's possible that you're the prosecutor and your L.E.G. defense (plus the brilliant "it doesn't make sense for me to be anything else!" thing) would keep you alive throughout the game.

The mafia wouldn't kill you because you're essentially a townie and they want to kill special roles, and the town wouldn't kill you because you being guilty wouldn't make sense.

That's just a guess though. Knowing me, I'm probably way off :P

I know that Redack thought I was suspicious, and I don't know why he wouldn't tell his special guild partner about that.

No clue. When we were going back and forth about our suspicions you weren't mentioned once. Maybe he was planning on voting for you this round and didn't want me to change his mind.

Since we went over the possibility of Zanic first, and I tried to show him how he was completely wrong about that, maybe he thought that I'd change his apparently deep convictions about white lancer.

I honestly have no idea.

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Xhin

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Interesting. I'm not sure which way to go. I really think we have to kill one of them today, because we are 100% sure that one of them is lying. Even if they're just the Prosecutor that's still better than lynching a townie which we are still liable to do at this point.

As for other ideas, I am also a little suspicious of 85 and JN, and I think it's entirely possible that Kassie is Mafia and stayed silent yesterday to fake being silenced, thus clearing her name. No accusations, just a possibility.

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Xhin's last reply confirms one suspicion I had.

It has been quoted several times where Dooku said he knew Redack found him suspicious. Asuming Dooku is telling the truth about his role, this makes zero sense. Why would Redack find his partner suspicious? That SHOULD be the one person he ISN'T suspicious of.

Either I misunderstood something or Dooku made a glaring error that I was the only one who caught...

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Feral

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That's quite the possibility Feral. Unless he didn't trust his partner.

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`Roxas`

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It wasn't copied and pasted though, it was paraphrased. I'm well within the rules here. I didn't even share my awesome joke.

There was no awesome joke, because you weren't in the thread Mr. Prosecutor. My complaint stands. You trying to get out of it on a technicality is annoying. You fabricated the contents of a post to 'prove' your claim and as a result some people have believed you. That's dirty playing and its clearly against the intent of the rules.

Interesting. I'm not sure which way to go. I really think we have to kill one of them today, because we are 100% sure that one of them is lying. Even if they're just the Prosecutor that's still better than lynching a townie which we are still liable to do at this point.

If you have to lynch someone, please lynch Xhin first -_- At least then you'll see he's not the Special Club Member, he's the prosecutor. And then you'll see I'm the Special Club Member and we can MOVE ON. We're distracted because Xhin wants his prosecutor points and its helping no one but the mafia.

But preferably don't lynch Xhin. I don't want him lynched, he's just doing his role, but I don't want to get lynched by him because you were all too stupid to see through his nonsense.

Either I misunderstood something or Dooku made a glaring error that I was the only one who caught...

I'm referring to last game. Redack was suspicious of me last game and he was correct in his suspicions. I'm saying that last game Redack's suspicions were right on the money, and the town ignored him. This game the same thing is happening with Lancer.

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Count Dooku

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I think we should just lynch one, honestly. We know ones lying, and we will never get anywhere on this issue until ones dead.

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Shad~

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Also, majora can't.... really say Xhin is lying or not, cause then that may screw over the the game. Plus Xhin owns the site, and he can overrule everyone, so. (no) I feel for you though if your telling the truth.

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Shad~

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Hmm, well obviously if you were trying to get the town to accept your innocence for the rest of the game, you would try to get the one guy who is on your case host-killed. But then the town would know you're lying when I'm revealed as the Gent. So maybe you're just doing that to get me to shut up.

Honestly, your motivations don't make any sense, but on the other hand you did say:

When I was mafia last game I did things that 'Wouldn't make sense if I were mafia' and they ended up winning the game for the mafia

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Xhin

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I'm never not suspicious apparently. {:?}

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You're clever, Xhin, but I'd like to think the people playing this game are more intelligent than that.

Hmm, well obviously if you were trying to get the town to accept your innocence for the rest of the game, you would try to get the one guy who is on your case host-killed. But then the town would know you're lying when I'm revealed as the Gent. So maybe you're just doing that to get me to shut up.

Only you won't be host killed, which is unfortunate as you've clearly violated the rules, and if I'm lynched the town will find out you're lying.

Here's the predicament:

If you lie to the town there's no consequence. They lynch me today, find out I'm in the Special Club, and tomorrow you say 'lol prosecutor' and they forgive you. Technically you're town aligned, so they won't lynch you.

You have little to lose by counter claiming me and much to gain if it works.

But I'm done arguing it. We'll go in circles forever and it'll probably get me killed.

If I have to die, I want it to be on my terms. And you know what? I don't want you to get the points for it.

If the Sheriff is paying attention, please use your day kill on me. I implore you. If Xhin is to be believed, I am a member of the mafia stupid enough to claim Special Club Member at the start of the day round. I beg you, kill me so that Xhin is denied his lynch bonus points and the game can progress onward.

Maybe if you're all lucky Xhin can lead you on a wild goose chase again and kill a few more townies to the mafia's benefit.

Seriously, if the sheriff is paying attention, please kill me.

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Count Dooku

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Everybody be quiet a second...

I'm pretty sure I hear Redack weeping in his grave! {troll}

Anyway, pointless to continue this nonsense sinse one or the other is guarenteed to be host killed anyway; either Xhin for fabricating a role thread or Dooku for blatantly filing a false appeal. Better to let Majora execute the offending party and go from there.

BTW, Xhin has NO athourity in the running of the Mafia game. Yeano is the supreme judge of the games. Xhin can be host killed as easily as any other player.

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Feral

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Technically you're town aligned, so they won't lynch you.

Technically he's not.

And if he's Mafia that's a good ploy to waste the sheriff's power.

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White Thunder

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I'm not executing anyone for Dooku's appeal.

You may not under any circumstance (unless specified by the Host), copy and paste any of the information contained in a role specific thread (Mafia Thread, Doctor Thread, Sheriff Thread, etc.) or make up content from one of those threads and portray it as having been copied and pasted. This also applies to screenshots of the thread. If this is done, the Host will take action accordingly (which can result in an in-game sanction, host-kill, or, if particularly egregious, a ban from the forum). This also applies for your role.

When this rule was added its specific purpose was to avoid allowing people to determine innocence based on pictures of role specific threads, or giving some form of what seems to be legitimate objective evidence of someone's role by copying a host's message word-for-word. In this case, it involves a summary of events that did or didn't happen in the Special Club Thread. I'm ruling it as not breaking a rule. I honestly don't have a problem with a description of conversations--real or fake--being posted as evidence. It isn't too different from an investigative role paraphrasing the information given by the host.

Not going to hold Dooku eligible for filing a false complaint because the rule was just misinterpreted. The game can just go on as it was.

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Given MM9's ruling, I'll be posting the true events that took place in the Special Club thread when I get home from college. At least then if you lynch me you'll have a record of my and Redack's real discussion.

And if he's Mafia that's a good ploy to waste the sheriff's power.

I've only got 3 votes toward me... a bit early to be sure I'll be lynched and try to get the sheriff to waste their power on me.

I just really don't want Xhin getting his extra points for getting me lynched. He's already got enough points to host a game, and getting killed on day 2 will certainly ensure I get very few points and have to play another few games before being eligible to host.

Personally I'd like to just move past this nonsense. Anyone that has played with me before knows I'm a better player than this. I wouldn't claim Special Club at the start of the round unless I was Special Club.

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Count Dooku

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If Count were lying and Xhin really was the other club member, I don't think Count would request Xhin to be host-killed and have his role revealed.

I don't know when I will get another chance to rejoin the thread so here's my vote.

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Jo Nathan

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Also what have I done to make myself look suspicious? {:s}

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Jo Nathan

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I don't necessarily find you suspicious, JN. I'm just not comfortable enough to go after Xhin or Dooku, and there is running the risk of randomly hitting one of them (or somehow both of them is randomly done again). It's just that to me something seems a bit off coming from you this game. Simply intuition. Whether it's right or wrong, I can't tell anybody. I'm really wary of doing anything close to mob mentality.

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`Roxas`

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After what happened last game, I came into this one with the goal of thinking things through more before posting and voting, and this could be what seems off to you. This is only the second game I really participated in so I guess I can understand your reason.

I feel more comfortable voting to lynch someone than to do another no-kill, and I feel Count is the less likely of the two to be lying about their role. That's why I voted for Xhin but I'm open to changing my vote if something strikes me as suspicious before the day ends.

To be honest, there is one person I'm very suspicious of but I want to observe him/her more before I say anything.

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Jo Nathan

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So here's the play-by-play of the Special Club thread. Paraphrased, of course, as only copying and pasting directly is disallowed.

Original Post: MM9: Some opening stuff about the Special Club. Notes that every day round we will get an optional secret task. We will not be given a secret task Night 0.

Reply 1: I state that this is going to be good.

Reply 2: Redack says this is going to be fun.

Reply 3: Redack asks if we will get points for completing optional tasks.

Reply 4: MM9 replies that as the tasks are optional, we will not receive points unless he's feeling generous.

Reply 5: Redack argues that they should be worth points, with a :( at the end

Reply 6: MM9 folds somewhat, mentions the possibility of a difficult task worth points.

Reply 7: Long drawn out 'Please' from Redack.

Reply 8: MM9 says he'll think it over

Reply 9: I state that the Special Club demands bonus points.

Reply 10: Redack agrees with me, states that Night 0 is taking forever and asks if MM9 gave an inactive person a role.

Reply 11: MM9 replies that he can't talk about it.

Reply 12: Redack states that we don't expect MM9 to talk, we expect him to die.

Reply 13: MM9 asks who would be host if he died, and who would give us points. He claims that in some way he is a third member of the club.

Reply 14: Redack complains about how he hasn't been getting good points from the last few games, asks if we're supposed to be having random conversation with the host.

Reply 15: MM9 states that we've made him post more in the Special Club thread than any other thread.

Reply 16: Redack states that that's because nothing else is going on.

Reply 17: Redack asks for confirmation on the night visits. Asks if me and him visit each other.

Reply 18: MM9 states that one of us (we don't know who) will visit the other.

Reply 19: I state that I would never visit Redack.

Reply 20: Redack is upset by this statement, tells me that I'd better visit him.

Reply 21: I ask for my previous comments to be stricken from the Special Club minutes.

So here's the play-by-play of the Special Club thread. Paraphrased, of course, as only copying and pasting directly is disallowed.

Original Post: MM9: Some opening stuff about the Special Club. Notes that every day round we will get an optional secret task. We will not be given a secret task Night 0.

Reply 1: I state that this is going to be good.

Reply 2: Redack says this is going to be fun.

Reply 3: Redack asks if we will get points for completing optional tasks.

Reply 4: MM9 replies that as the tasks are optional, we will not receive points unless he's feeling generous.

Reply 5: Redack argues that they should be worth points, with a :( at the end

Reply 6: MM9 folds somewhat, mentions the possibility of a difficult task worth points.

Reply 7: Long drawn out 'Please' from Redack.

Reply 8: MM9 says he'll think it over

Reply 9: I state that the Special Club demands bonus points.

Reply 10: Redack agrees with me, states that Night 0 is taking forever and asks if MM9 gave an inactive person a role.

Reply 11: MM9 replies that he can't talk about it.

Reply 12: Redack states that we don't expect MM9 to talk, we expect him to die.

Reply 13: MM9 asks who would be host if he died, and who would give us points. He claims that in some way he is a third member of the club.

Reply 14: Redack complains about how he hasn't been getting good points from the last few games, asks if we're supposed to be having random conversation with the host.

Reply 15: MM9 states that we've made him post more in the Special Club thread than any other thread.

Reply 16: Redack states that that's because nothing else is going on.

Reply 17: Redack asks for confirmation on the night visits. Asks if me and him visit each other.

Reply 18: MM9 states that one of us (we don't know who) will visit the other.

Reply 19: I state that I would never visit Redack.

Reply 20: Redack is upset by this statement, tells me that I'd better visit him.

Reply 21: I ask for my previous comments to be stricken from the Special Club minutes.

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Count Dooku

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Here's where we actually get into game discussion:

Reply 22: Redack has the following observations:

He believes Shad thinks he (Redack) is mafia and is trying to get him to slip up. He states he isn't overly suspicious of Shad as such.

He thinks that Zanic is being too quiet, thinks he's worth watching.

He believes White Thunder is town aligned.

He wants to see more replies, as several big players haven't said anything yet at this point.

Reply 23: I make my observations:

Agree with Redack that Shad doesn't seem overly suspicious.

I note that while White Thunder proposed strategies that would help the town, I've done so several times as mafia to earn the town's trust. I say we should just keep an eye on him.

I say that Feral is hard for me to read, but that he may just be repeating Redack's ideas to try and fly under the radar.

I say that Trever should know better about the roleclaim suggestion after a few games. I say that a roleclaim will benefit the mafia, not the town. I say that Trever and White Thunder suggesting one makes me suspicious.

I state that I have a 'feeling' that Xhin is mafia this game due to the length of time he's gone without posting.

(Clearly my Xhin 'feeling' was wrong, as I know he's the Prosecutor)

Reply 24: Yeano breaks into our thread and demands we sell him something.

Reply 25: Redack responds to my comments:

He says Feral is easy to figure out, says Feral is a townie based on his behavior.

He says Trever saw his roleclaim strategy work in one game and that's why he keeps suggesting it. Says that Trever doesn't understand why it worked and why it won't work this game.

Redack says that my feeling over Xhin is baseless considering Xhin hasn't posted yet.

Reply 26: Redack yells at Yeano for breaking into Special Club.

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Count Dooku

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._. Ordinarily by this point I would vote for Xhin. But given everything that was posted, I think Xhins role is vital to US as a town. Thus, I don't want to lynch him, and Dooku could just be making ALL of this up for all we know. But we seriously need to lynch someone before we get lynched out. And I need to stop check here so much when I get a chance. (shifty)

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Reply 27: Redack states his fears of being killed off:

He states that he believes Lancer and Zanic are mafia. He says that Lancer wants the investigators to reveal too early for relatively little gain, which doesn't fit Lancer's typical good thinking.

He states that he believes Lancer and Zanic don't cover each other's backs if one of them is busy, at school, at work, etc. He finds it odd that Lancer stated that not only was he at a family thing this weekend, but Zanic was too.

Apparently during Star Wars mafia Zanic went off to camp and accidentally told Lancer he was the cop. Lancer, who was mafia, didn't relay any of that information back to the town. He believes that Lancer covering for Zanic this game indicates they're on the same side, and he thinks that side is mafia.

Reply 28: MM9 finally shows up with a secret task. We get to name the club!

He also says it needs a slogan, since Gtx0 just had a slogan contest.

Reply 29: Redack proposes League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. He says the slogan should be: No normies allowed.

Reply 30: MM9 states that if I agree that'll be it.

Reply 31: Redack states that if he dies in Night 1 that he's certain Lancer is mafia, and I should pursue it for him.

Reply 32: I agree on the club name.

Reply 33: MM9 shows up, states that Redack's dead. The club is shut down and I'm told goodbye before the thread is locked.

So there you have it.

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Count Dooku

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Sigh, now I have to paraphrase every reply me and redack said. I have things to do IRL but I'll be back here sometime soon. Well played, Dooku >_<

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Xhin

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You're a liar. It took me 20 minutes to paraphrase the thread.

You're not busy, you're having to fabricate an entire thread of content and make sure it lines up with your original false content.

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Count Dooku

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Take a step back and allow Xhin to state his side of this issue, though we shouldn't be overly concerned either way if your beliefs that Xhin is the Prosecutor are correct.

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`Roxas`

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Furthermore, one line in your false paraphrasing is laughable:

He says that Dooku is too active this game and deserves to be killed with poisonous spiders.

Redack's the one with the fear of spiders, and in 10+ years of knowing him he's threatened me with death in a variety of ways, but spiders aren't one of them. Never have been, never will be, as spiders are a subject he avoids.

Redack would have suggested murdering me with something I actually fear in revenge for the game where I had him killed with poison spiders.

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Count Dooku

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Dude I'm fucking busy. Right now I'm filling out a job application and I have to call them again by 5, also I have stuff I need to do with my room but I guess that can wait since you're incapable of conceiving of someone actually having a life.

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Xhin

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Right now my bet is that Xhin is the Prosecutor. Either way I still say we have to lynch one of them. Rare is the opportunity to know that 1 of 2 people are flat out fabricating their role.

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White Thunder

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Also yes, he suggested that because you repeatedly made mention of the term (and died from it in game X) and thought it would be ironic.

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Xhin

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Dude I'm fucking busy. Right now I'm filling out a job application and I have to call them again by 5, also I have stuff I need to do with my room but I guess that can wait since you're incapable of conceiving of someone actually having a life.

Quite the opposite, I'm a full time student and I'm working two part time jobs. I'm just not willing to say 'Sure Xhin, old buddy, take all the time you need to fabricate evidence.'

Also yes, he suggested that because you repeatedly made mention of the term (and died from it in game X) and thought it would be ironic.

Again, lets just call you what you are within the confines of this game: A liar.

And if the Sheriff is paying attention, I reiterate my request to be killed. If Xhin's right you off a mafia for the town.

Since he's wrong, however, shooting me just denies him the points for 'prosecuting' me.

Right now my bet is that Xhin is the Prosecutor. Either way I still say we have to lynch one of them. Rare is the opportunity to know that 1 of 2 people are flat out fabricating their role.

I disagree :/ Despite all of this I don't particularly want Xhin lynched. He's third party, but certainly not aligned with the mafia. Preferably we can focus on someone who has an actual chance of being mafia. But since we're so far into the round with this Xhin VS Dooku nonsense that probably isn't going to happen.

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In that case, do you have any suspicions besides lancer, who happens to be known as one of the best players around? (Not that that means he's not Mafia, of course). Since we're all clearly not jumping on that train- at least for now- you'll need to suggest someone else if we actually want to lynch Mafia. Or else why wouldn't you want Xhin lynched?

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White Thunder

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I'm the prosecutor. Lynch me.

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Xhin

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Well, now that he's admitted to it, we don't really need to.

Don't worry about it Xhin we all got tough times. You're fine, and we appreciate all you do for the site.

So, now that we know Dooku is telling the truth, lancer or Zanic anyone?

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White Thunder

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Sheriff Xhin has spoken. {troll}

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Shad~

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Either option would be a good choice if we proceed with a lynch. They are both above average players, so you can't really go wrong. If we do go with a lynch against either of them, lancer would have to be the first to go. However, I won't be inclined to vote until I see reason enough to change my vote. No offense, JN.

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`Roxas`

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Here's a breakdown of what actually happened, before you guys start guessing:

*insert crazy stressful week and a half here. I don't even want to talk about it but this is actually the second breakdown I've had during that time*

I'm about to call a job because I only have an hour left before they close, when dooku posts. I want to elaborate on my story and make up a bunch of stuff, but I don't have time because of the job thing.

I go to call them, and they tell me I need to fill out an online application.

I stop by here and see dooku mention something about going to school full-time and having two part-time jobs, and I take that as a personal attack that I'm lazy and have accomplished nothing. That idea, incidentally, is what set off my other breakdown earlier in the week, except in that case it was actually a direct insult.

I completely blow up and kick everyone off the site. I also blitz through the online job application and get it done with 9 minutes to spare.

I call the job, and they inform me that it takes time for it to process so I actually have to call them back tomorrow.

There's a lot of stuff I'm not mentioning here because I really really really don't want to talk about my week. But that's the gist of it.

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Xhin

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First off, I'd like to apologize to Xhin... I was taking the game a bit too seriously and I'm sorry for mouthing off when you mentioned your real life obligations. Having dealt with a very stressful month myself recently, I should have been more understanding.

That said... I'm not sold on lynching Zanic unless Lancer turns up Guilty. If Lancer is Guilty, I think it's safe to assume Redack was right about the connection of Lancer covering for Zanic.

I know lynching one of our better players is a lot to ask, but almost every game we ignore someone who's picked up on the clues in favor of some imagined guilty party. Just this once, lets go with someone's gut and see where it gets us.

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Count Dooku

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Lucky I was in the right place at the right time, and was in a loophole when the site went down, and wasn't kicked out. I was able to reply in a mod forum post and talk him down(after screaming about something related myself).

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Feral

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I see no reason to have me lynched. I'm not sure about Lancer, but I've done nothing wrong. I've already proven Redack's theory of Lancer not covering my back is false. There is nothing to go off of besides that.

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I see no reason to have me lynched. I'm not sure about Lancer, but I've done nothing wrong. I've already proven Redack's theory of Lancer not covering my back is false. There is nothing to go off of besides that.

I also remember a game not too long ago where you were one of (if not THE) final mafia and you sweet talked your way into a few extra rounds of being alive.

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Count Dooku

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I didn't see your post feral, I ended up talking myself down.

Anyway, I support the guy I'm trying to get lynched.

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Xhin

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"I also remember a game not too long ago where you were one of (if not THE) final mafia and you sweet talked your way into a few extra rounds of being alive."

That has nothing to do with this. Everyone attempts to do that when they're mafia. I'm just saying that your logic behind me being a mafia is baseless. I'm a bit frustrated that you seem to think I'm mafia because of something I had no control over. That would be like saying Shad must be mafia because he mentioned Roxas in a post.

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Zanic

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That has nothing to do with this. Everyone attempts to do that when they're mafia. I'm just saying that your logic behind me being a mafia is baseless. I'm a bit frustrated that you seem to think I'm mafia because of something I had no control over. That would be like saying Shad must be mafia because he mentioned Roxas in a post.

I understand, and I'm not voting for you yet. Even if Lancer comes up guilty I'll have to seriously think about voting for you.

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Count Dooku

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No offense, JN.

None taken. It's all good. {O:-)}

I have reservations about jumping on bandwagons after the previous game, but Redack is good at picking out suspicious details, and I sure as hell have no reason to vote for Xhin anymore, so...

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Jo Nathan

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"I understand, and I'm not voting for you yet. Even if Lancer comes up guilty I'll have to seriously think about voting for you."

Thank you. I just don't want everyone to turn on me in case Lancer is guilty. Because there's always the chance that he is, and I don't want anyone to somehow connect him and I.

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Zanic

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I also remember a game not too long ago where you were one of (if not THE) final mafia and you sweet talked your way into a few extra rounds of being alive.

Despite my constant urging otherwise -.-

We all agree that if he's innocent, Redack should no longer be allowed to play, ever?

September 6, 2012

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White Thunder

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^ Also due to the announcement at the top of the page, he should maybe be host killed.

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White Thunder

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Considering Xhin is still technically active (he has a vote for white lancer right now, even), I'd rather not host-kill him unless he explicitly states that he wants to be host-killed.

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What's been lost in the shuffle in all this is the fact that there's really no reason to be suspicious of me. All you're going off of is one of the strategies I put forth last round, which I maintain helps the Town out much more than it does the Mafia. Before you make the mistake of jumping on the bandwagon to lynch me, you need to look back at the last round and realize that everything I said was meant to help the Town.

Anyway, now that the Xhin situation has been resolved, I'm voting for #85. Like I said before, it really didn't make sense to vote for either Dooku or Xhin because it didn't make sense for a Mafia member to false roleclaim Special Club Member. #85 just popped in to vote for Dooku--right after I pointed out that it was likely neither was Mafia. I think he's a smarter player than that and was just trying to get a free kill on an innocent player.

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Sorry everyone for not posting. I've been busy the last couple days and have been out of town 8-9 hours each day. Feral can verify this as I made a post about it in the mod forum.

Going to take some time to read through the post I've missed and then I will vote.

Thanks

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No problem, chief.

The only thing that sticks out about #85 this game is how quick he turned around from, and I'm paraphrasing, "surprised there won't be a no kill" to voting No Kill. If he is Mafia, I don't see why he would slip up in that kind of manner. I remember one of the games I was Cop, I checked him first because of his eagerness to lynch Day One, as he has done so in the past as Mafia, and with the help of the Journalist we got him. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if he was Mafia this time.

That said, I am changing my vote.

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`Roxas`

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OOG: Want to take a moment to apriciate Majora's patience and tenacity for putting up with all our constant and potentially game ruining irl stuff without blinking. Your truly awesome!

BTW, only hezekiah(still MIA from GT) and Serpe(unknown factor) remain as potential silencing victims.

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Feral

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And Redack, but he's been permanently silenced for this game. (h)

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`Roxas`

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Just for that joke...

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White Thunder

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C'mon, that was funny. (hehe)

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`Roxas`

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I had a change of heart. I was in a bit of a rush when I voted for lancer anyway, but now I don't feel like I personally have enough reason to lynch him yet. I haven't had much of a chance to observe him, and I especially don't want to rush into killing him if he would potentially be a great asset to the town if he's innocent.

We still have a day so I'm going to wait some more before I vote again.

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Jo Nathan

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I won't be voting this round. Despite all the drama going on, no one has said anything suspicious enough to merit being lynched, and I'm not about to jump any bandwagon of getting someone killed unless I'm at least 90% positive that person is Mafia.

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Trever Leingod

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Well this has been a very interesting read.

@MajorasMask9
Sorry this all went down on your first time as Host. As Feral has said your handling of this has been great. Thanks for a good job.

As far as I can tell hezy has not posted at all in this game. He could not have been silenced both days. Busy maybe???

Don't think there is enough evidence for me to vote for white lancer yet.

My vote is just a gut feeling based on the way he has played in the past.

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chiefsonny

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Don't know what happend to that post, but can't edit it. Sorry.
122 replies.(shocked)

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chiefsonny

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I don't feel like we can no kill today, two days in a row. There are plenty of suspicions to be had.

September 7, 2012

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White Thunder

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I know we've moved past this already, but Majora's interpretation of the copying and pasting rule is flawless.

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Yeano

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I spoke to Hezekiah are reminded him that we have a game going on. Said he will check in after he gets home from work. Also said that he is NOT silenced. I doubt Serpe was, so likely nobody was.

Makes me think my blocking target from last night is the Silencer, and he has been playing off Xhin's deception. Don't know why the real club member wouldn't come forward, though...

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Feral

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Don't know why the real club member wouldn't come forward, though...

Yeah, we can't really lynch Dooku until that happens. There is a chance it's Serpe but that is extremely rare. By all accounts Dooku seems like the real deal, anyway.

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White Thunder

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So if what you say is true, Feral, then Dooku is the Silencer?

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`Roxas`

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The other possibility(more likely now that I think about it) is that the silencer is an inactive player like Serpe, Kassie, or hezy himself. The nights HAVE been going to the 24 hour limit.

As much as I don't want to No Kill, I have no idea who to vote for.

September 7, 2012

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Feral

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Nah. I thought it over and think that Serpe, Kassie, or hezy is the Silencer and simply never bothered to act, hence the nights going full length.

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Feral

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You... all realize Xhin may have just said he was the prosecutor to get out of the game easy, right? He COULD be the other club member, and he could be the Sheriff. But oh well, I have too much going atm to bother too much here. Hopefully you all don't make a mistake, my vote stands for Dooku.

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Shad~

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If you want out of the game, you simply request to be host killed and forfeit your points.

I saw Xhin's breakdown and fully believe him. If Xhin was the Sheriff, I think he would have killed Dooku right off the bat instead of debating with him.

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Feral

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I doubt Serpe was, so likely nobody was.

do you even have a reason for thinking that?

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Kassie The Eevee

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If Xhin was the Sheriff, I think he would have killed Dooku right off the bat instead of debating with him.

Why would he do that? That would not only get him killed by the mafia the next day, but also he has no REAL way of knowing if Dooku was mafia. It'd be too much of a waste.

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Shad~

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Serpe had posted Day One, I believe. I missed all of Day One and Night One, so that was my doing. Kassie has been posting quite frequently, though this is her first game back since Game Two restarted (missing 12 games total). Hez hasn't been active on the site since the game started, correct? So if we apply that to a (possible) lack of silencing, hez may very well be the Silencer.

Still uncertain though.

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`Roxas`

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lol @ the default voting text being 'his'.

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Kassie The Eevee

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I've noticed that too.

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`Roxas`

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Anyway, I may as well say who I find suspicious atm for reference since I have a bad feeling about next night.

Kassie

Female Alpha Wolf

#85 (Because in games before I came back, he was easy to see through when he was either townie, or mafia. Right now, he heavily strikes me as mafia)

White Lancer

I have reasons for the others, but it's too much of a tiring process to explain properly. And beyond these 4, the reason I kept my vote for Dooku was to keep enough votes on him in case he IS mafia. Seems kind of stupid now though.

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Shad~

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If you guys remember, Kassie did claim that she was silenced last round. If we think that silencer is inactive, it's actually almost definitely the case that she's the silencer.

Looks like it is the best option to lynch 85 at this point.

September 7, 2012

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White Thunder

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The issue with that is that we can't fully believe her claim of being silenced, since neither hezekiah nor myself were online during Day One to see if we were.

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`Roxas`

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It may seem odd for the Mafia to lynch a new-ish player, but I would totally do the same thing, seeing as how these players have a tendency to lynch inactive players. But I think it more likely that she's lying.

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White Thunder

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Kassie did mention that she missed the last night round. I'd caution against reading too much into who was or wasn't silenced, though. It'd be one thing if we had a Watcher or Tracker read on the Silenced player, but just because no one appears to be silenced doesn't necessarily mean that the Silencer is inactive. The Mafia could just have chosen not to silence anyone this round in order to throw us off.

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white lancer

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Kassie did mention that she missed the last night round. I'd caution against reading too much into who was or wasn't silenced, though. It'd be one thing if we had a Watcher or Tracker read on the Silenced player, but just because no one appears to be silenced doesn't necessarily mean that the Silencer is inactive. The Mafia could just have chosen not to silence anyone this round in order to throw us off.

So basically, you don't want us to do our own research, and you want us to rely on possible misreadings. The watcher and tracker won't know if it's the silencer anyway. It's as good a guess as any, anyway.

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Shad~

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Basically, I want the Town to stop jumping to conclusions about the Mafia's actions. The Watcher and Tracker will have much more reliable information (if they happen to tag the silencee or Silencer, respectively) than anything else we have--if the Watcher picks the person who was silenced, they'll know for a fact that one of the people who visited that person is the Silencer. There's a definite chance that Kassie is Mafia but it's far from a certainty.

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white lancer

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Basically, I want the Town to stop jumping to conclusions about the Mafia's actions. The Watcher and Tracker will have much more reliable information (if they happen to tag the silencee or Silencer, respectively) than anything else we have--if the Watcher picks the person who was silenced, they'll know for a fact that one of the people who visited that person is the Silencer. There's a definite chance that Kassie is Mafia but it's far from a certainty.

Ya, i see where your going with detecting the silencer, but until we have evidence, assumptions are all we have. And for all we know, it'll be too late, and one or both will be dead by that, time. Like... suppose they they end up dead, or they don't have anything because they picked the wrong person. Then we are down to like 6 Townies, and 4 mafia. Thats happened before, and I wouldn't want to get into those situations again.

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Shad~

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I agree with lancer. Though my head has been clouded for the past week so its hard for me to concentrate on this, everything I've read and been able to obtain just doesn't seem to sway me in any kind of direction. Once again its just a poke in the dark, though the beginning of the games typically are.

Though on a scale of 1 to Guilty, Dooku is a 1 and Kassie and #85 are at least a 7 to me.

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Yeah, we definitely don't want to be too dependent on the Watcher/Tracker. Their odds of actually detecting the Silencer or another Mafia member aren't great right now, which is why it's better to play a little more aggressively right now rather than sit back and let the Mafia carve us up. I just want to make sure we're not so sure that Kassie is guilty that we ignore other evidence.

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white lancer

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Unless they both happen to target the same person and they both come up with something.

Majora, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong with what I'm saying here, but:

Let's say hypothetically that the Mafia target Shad~/Knux tonight as their kill. The Tracker and Watcher both decide to use their actions on Knux. Could that produce an almost definite result, assuming the Tracker and Watcher don't mistake one another as Mafia?

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`Roxas`

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Let's say hypothetically that the Mafia target Shad~/Knux tonight as their kill. The Tracker and Watcher both decide to use their actions on Knux. Could that produce an almost definite result, assuming the Tracker and Watcher don't mistake one another as Mafia?

-The watcher would see that the Tracker and a Mafia member visited Shad.
-The tracker wouldn't see anything unless Shad visited someone else. If Shad did visit someone, the tracker would see who that was.

This is also assuming the Ninja (mafia--kills without appearing in Tracker/Watcher results) isn't the one that would kill Shad.

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MajorasMask9

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Okay, thank you for that clarification.

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`Roxas`

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Okay, hi fellas. Sorry for the absence, no real excuse... honestly I just forgot about mafia. I went in to add the additional points, but it seems like somebody already Redack's?

As for this game, an interesting take on roles. Majora, does that mean you'd tell the Watcher "The Tracker and the Silencer visited Shad", or "Romney and Ryan visited Shad"?

It's certainly suspicious that Redack apparently spoke of some suspicion of lancer then ended up dead, but I don't know if that's worth pursuing right now. Maybe later we can look closer at how he's been acting to see if Redack's theory still fits. The whole back and forth between Dooku and Xhin was quite odd... I'm still unclear on win conditions; do the P and DA count towards the mafia/town ratio? If they don't, we may as well kill off Xhin: either he's the Prosecutor like he claimed and Dooku's the other LEG guy, he's mafia and Dooku's the other LEG guy, or Xhin's the other LEG guy and Dooku's mafia.

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hezekiah

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Okay, we know now for sure that if anybody is silenced, it is Serpe.

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`Roxas`

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Majora, does that mean you'd tell the Watcher "The Tracker and the Silencer visited Shad", or "Romney and Ryan visited Shad"?

The Tracker and Watcher receive the names of the visitors, not the roles.

I'm still unclear on win conditions; do the P and DA count towards the mafia/town ratio?

The Prosecutor and Defense Attorney do not count toward the mafia/town ratio. If the ratio were 3(mafia)-3(town)-2(prosecutor + defense attorney), then the mafia would win for outnumbering the town.

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MajorasMask9

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Xhin admitted to being the Pros. But I would like to know if he counts to the town ratio- IE if there are 4 townies and Xhin left and 4 Mafia left if the game still continues.

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White Thunder

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Just 58 seconds too late {:P} but yeah Xhin admitted to being the Pros so lynching him accomplishes nothing anyway.

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White Thunder

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Well, assuming he actually is the P. If we decide not to take out #85 (seems to be the way the round's headed), there's no harm to be done by killing Xhin. It's no worse than a No Kill, at least.

As for #85, I'll admit that I'm not as good at following along with playstyles as some of the rest of you (plus, having two rounds worth of posts to read doesn't help (sad)). We've still got around 16 hours left in the round, so I don't think I need to vote yet. I'll try to look through again and come to some conclusions of my own.

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hezekiah

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Well' theway things are going, we have two potential lynches; Lancer and #85. Of the two, I am leaning toward Lancer. He just seems much more passive and evasive then usual.

Feral changes his vote to White Lancer

September 7, 2012

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Feral

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since we're throwing around suspicion, can we look at everyone who's hopping on the bandwagon of suspecting #85 and white lancer? one Mafia strategy is to add to the heat on someone who's innocent just because everyone else is, in order to keep suspicion off themselves.

and I love how this is turning into a repeat of Game 1. "HEY LET'S LYNCH KASSIE, SHE'S SUSPICIOUS...oh crap she was innocent, oops."

September 8, 2012

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Kassie The Eevee

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and I love how this is turning into a repeat of Game 1. "HEY LET'S LYNCH KASSIE, SHE'S SUSPICIOUS...oh crap she was innocent, oops."

Sorry about that. :$

September 8, 2012

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`Roxas`

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can we look at everyone who's hopping on the bandwagon of suspecting #85 and white lancer? one Mafia strategy is to add to the heat on someone who's innocent just because everyone else is, in order to keep suspicion off themselves.

Another mafia strategy is to create doubt, and mistrust among the town, and trust to the mafia members though. (shifty)

and I love how this is turning into a repeat of Game 1. "HEY LET'S LYNCH KASSIE, SHE'S SUSPICIOUS...oh crap she was innocent, oops."

Oh, you know what I love more? people who use that excuse everytime to try and steal a guaranteed innocent ticket. {roll}

September 8, 2012

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Shad~

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Oh, you know what I love more? people who use that excuse everytime to try and steal a guaranteed innocent ticket.

you know what I love to absolute death? people who misinterpret things I say. BEST THING EVER.

September 8, 2012

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Kassie The Eevee

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you know what I love to absolute death? people who misinterpret things I say. BEST THING EVER.

I'm not, i'm just in a bad mood right now and came off as troll sarcastic. I was only saying, we have no idea if your mafia or not. And atm, you do seem suspicious. With all the silencing things up in the air. Sry.

September 8, 2012

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Shad~

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Aaaaaaaanyway...

Seeing as how the only cues to suspicions of 85 and white lancer are by comparing their actions to how they performed in previous games, you can see why I have virtually nothing to go on myself. The only thing about 85 I find weird is him quickly voting for Dooku with hardly any explanation. So between white lancer and him, I'm leaning towards KASSIE FOR BEING SO SUSPICIO-- 85 I mean.

September 8, 2012

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Frustro

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So between white lancer and him, I'm leaning towards KASSIE FOR BEING SO SUSPICIO-- 85 I mean.

Wut. May as well take him out since he already had the highest votes.

September 8, 2012

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Shad~

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Another thing I find odd is he's been lurking in the active users for quite a while now, about everytime I check, and he has yet to even address this. But who knows. However at this point, I think it would be best for him to lay low if he was mafia.

September 8, 2012

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Shad~

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Another thing I find odd is he's been lurking in the active users for quite a while now, about everytime I check, and he has yet to even address this.

... Well then.

September 8, 2012

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Frustro

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Just over twelve hours remain in the round.

Uh, anybody know the last time we took the full seventy two hours in back to back rounds? Or even came close to going the full seventy two?

September 8, 2012

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`Roxas`

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3 hours left! Get your votes in NOW!

September 8, 2012

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Feral

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45 minutes.

September 8, 2012

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Feral

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Closer to an hour and a half. The round started at 11:43 am.

September 8, 2012

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`Roxas`

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Also, I think it's worth noting (again) that #85 still hasn't responded to the accusations against him.

September 8, 2012

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`Roxas`

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His fault. He had plenty of time to respond. He sealed his own fate.

And yeah, I didn't pay attention to the minutes. lol

September 8, 2012

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Feral

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NIGHT TWO

What initially seemed like it would be a boring day quickly turned into chaos as people began to vote for others. Names were brought up and votes were thrown in every direction, but in the end, the winner was #85! Congratulations!!!! He wins a lynching!

Unfortunately, #85 was a Townie, and is the second town-sided death in the game. One by shooting, one by lynching. Who's next?

1. White Thunder
2. `Roxas`
3. white lancer
4. Zanic
5. Feral
6. Shad~
7. CtR Black
8. Frustro
9. Female Alpha Wolf
10. ~~#85~~ - Townie
11. Serpe
12. Xhin
13. Jo Nathan
14. hezekiah
15. Trever Leingod
16. Count Dookue
17. chiefsonny
18. ~~Redack~~ - Special Club Member
19. Kassie the Eevee

Ratio: 4-11 (2)

Roles:
Ninja, Silencer, Hooker, Newcomer
Watcher, Tracker, Special Club Member x1, Nurse, Sheriff, Sleepwalker x3?, Townie x4?
Prosecutor, Defense Attorney.

Night will end in 24 hours or when all night actions are in.

September 8, 2012

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