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game 12 dead and prison thread

Posted September 22, 2012 by `Roxas`

You have been killed or arrested. Sit back and watch things unfold.

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Frankly I expected that, although I'm not entirely disappointed since I'm just a townie :P

Sorry to see that happened to you Hez, that's a big blow to the town.

September 26, 2012
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Count Dooku

You were the Mafia's first thought, Dooku, you should be honored!

And it is indeed a bummer.

Do y'all think I made one side too overpowered or just right for both sides?

September 26, 2012
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`Roxas`

Well, the last two games I played extremely well (4 points in a row both games!) so I was fairly sure I wouldn't make it.

I feel the town may be underpowered slightly.

The vig is dead (that was random, so lets not count it)

The arsonist has 50% chance of working, and if playing blind will probably hurt the town.

FBI agent playing blind = hurt the town

Cop = can't reveal due to no protector, has to TRY to survive a few nights to get useful information. Signs his/her own death warrant when they reveal to the town.

Governor = Great role for MAKING the town do something if you're convinced you know a guilty party (was so much fun to order the town around when I was governor) but really only useful for preventing executioner/deaths due to the voting rules this game.

Meanwhile:

Mafia know who their guys are, get to kill once per night, and learn the identity of one person per night. If lucky, they can kill during the day with executioner, and the cop is further reduced in usefulness because of the godfather.

Unless the town get lucky and kill the investigator early, I think the game's already done. The town is just kinda blind this game.

Roxas, would it be possible for you to PM me the mafia players? Understand completely if you can't/don't want to, just curious.

I'm going to bet, based on nothing much, that the mafia are:

White Lancer, MM9, Trever, Feral

September 27, 2012
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Count Dooku

Well I'm glad my missing of the night round didn't make me miss anything... I had forgotten about the conworlds access route, so wasn't able to get on and select a target.

Gotta think it was my roleclaim proposition that did me in, meaning the FBI was one suspicious of that plan. I hope you're fucking happy, guy!

No guesses yet on mafia. Feral is gonna be fucking unbearable. You throw out enough random-ass guesses, eventually you'll get some right. Fucking probabilities, how do they work?

September 27, 2012
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hezekiah

Really, it wouldn't have mattered if you took action or not. Agent takes priority over everybody else.

September 28, 2012
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`Roxas`

Yes, I said as much in the first sentence of my last reply.

September 28, 2012
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hezekiah

Oh, misinterpreted that. :S

September 29, 2012
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`Roxas`

I think I'd be casting a vote for feral right about now. His 'OMG I HAED A DREAYUM' stuff is just odd.

September 29, 2012
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Count Dooku

I'm a threat so I died! Yay!

October 1, 2012
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Helius

@#$% Day 3! Again!

...so, how about that game reset? XD

Anyway, I'm fairly confident Zanic is Mafia, and I was suspicious of Majora from the first day (was hoping to observe him more but discussion was kinda dead). As for the other two, I have no idea. Jo Nathan strikes me as probably innocent, and I didn't think chief was very suspicious either, but again, not a whole lot to go off of. I could see FAW taking advantage of the whole domain issues to skate by under the radar again. I was iffy on Thunder as well.

October 1, 2012
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white lancer

I really think we need a rule about inactive people.

Its not fair to those of us that take the game seriously to have to deal with people that post seven times during the whole game. If its just one or two people being inactive you can call them suspicious and get rid of them

When half the players are inactive it just makes the game shitty.

I understand real life issues come up, but come on. If you expect to be inactive don't play

October 1, 2012
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Count Dooku

Actually, lancer, it was Night 2!

Any way, by the looks of things, the game will be reset. I will keep my promise and allow the allotted period of a minimum 36 hours to go by before seeing the thoughts of the living players.

October 2, 2012
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`Roxas`

It was Night 2, but my track record shows that I always seem to go down on Day 3 or the nights directly before and after.

October 2, 2012
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white lancer

Sure looks like Zanic is mafia.

Also looks like the game will be reset. I don't think it's necessary, however.

October 3, 2012
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hezekiah

Bah, Thunder should have stuck to his guns. Simply voting out someone who is completely inactive is unlikely to help and it's dangerous to take a risk like that with the game going the way it has been.

I don't see the Town winning this game unless the Cop survives and has some great information.

October 4, 2012
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white lancer

Trever looks like he's walking too close to working with Zanic on this one. If Zanic goes down they might wind up being all over him.

I wonder where MM9's been this entire game. He must be exceptionally busy IRL.

October 5, 2012
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white lancer

There we go, MM9. It's about time you show up as your old self again.

October 5, 2012
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white lancer

This game was over from the start. The FBI(confident it's FAW) hitting Hezy day 1 killed the town dead. With all due respect to the Mafia, they didn't even have to try. A shit ton of bad luck from all sides screwed the town.

Helius, your very first game reply was incredibly stupid and got you killed. "I agree with everything everyone said and have nothing to add" looked REAL bad.

As far as the dream thing goes, it was the God honest truth.

October 5, 2012
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Feral

If they lynch Majora, the FBI Agent could still save the game (at least for a little bit) by arresting Zanic. #85 may have made himself a target by voting that way without any reason, though.

October 5, 2012
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white lancer

So when was the last time the Cop out lived all the other Town power roles anyway?

Also, I predict that this Mafia gets the first recorded Mafia sided shut-out.

October 6, 2012
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Feral

I would be a little surprised if there was a shut-out, actually. Majora's making some good points--good enough that, even if they lynch him, the FBI Agent should go for Zanic upon learning that Majora is innocent. Thunder's also onto Zanic so they might be able to get him lynched today instead. The Agent still has priority over the Mafia so he'll have a good chance of bagging at least one of them (with Trever possibly exposed now as well).

One of the reasons I felt comfortable voicing my suspicions of Majora when I was still alive was that I felt it might make the Mafia less inclined to target either of us--if I was wrong and he was innocent, the Mafia might keep him around because they thought they could get him lynched (I also thought they might consider keeping me around because I might help them lynch Majora, but obviously that didn't work, probably because Zanic was having a hard time hiding his Mafia activities from me). That might backfire and actually wind up getting Majora lynched, but he's usually good at defending himself and the Mafia may have made a bit of a mistake keeping him around this long.

October 6, 2012
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white lancer

white lancer - 14 [avg: 7] (Dead/Town)
There were only 20 posts (6 of which were from white lancer

Heh. I was certainly TRYING to get something going those first couple of rounds. The server and other players just weren't cooperating. :(

October 7, 2012
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white lancer

Honestly, might be a good idea to hold off for a couple weeks after this game ends before starting the next. Give the regular players a chance to rid themselves of burnout and build anticipation.

Roxas did a terrific job as host, but this game has been a disaster and a half in the activity and interest department.

October 7, 2012
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Feral

They DO realize that if they tie votes and No Kill, they either trust that the FBI is active and gets a right guess, or they lose, don't they? They NEED to lynch a Mafia today to survive.

The best case scenario right now is that both Majora and Zanic are Mafia and are playing everybody by pretending to suspect each other.

October 7, 2012
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Feral

They don't need to lynch a Mafia today; the only way they would lose without lynching someone is if the Mafia killed someone other than the FBI Agent (which they will--they'll kill chief) AND if the FBI Agent makes a wrong guess. If the FBI Agent doesn't make a guess and the Town doesn't vote anyone off, the Town will still be up 5-4. It's still a better choice to lynch someone this round than not.

Majora's not Mafia, and hopefully the Town will realize that once Zanic goes down. I wouldn't be surprised if Trever goes down after Zanic, but the other two Mafia will be a bit trickier to figure out.

October 7, 2012
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white lancer

If they mislynch, the Mafia win barring a successful arrest.

October 7, 2012
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`Roxas`

Yep, but if they chose not to lynch anyone at all (tied the votes), they'd survive barring an unsuccessful arrest. But I would be surprised if they don't end up hitting a mafia member this round.

October 7, 2012
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white lancer

Yeah. Whatever. No matter what I do when I'm mafia, I end up looking suspicious. I don't talk, people say "He's under the radar. He must be mafia!" I try to contribute to the town to look innocent, and people say, "He's pointing out obvious things. He's mafia!"

I can never win.

October 8, 2012
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Zanic

Yeah. Whatever. No matter what I do when I'm mafia, I end up looking suspicious. I don't talk, people say "He's under the radar. He must be mafia!" I try to contribute to the town to look innocent, and people say, "He's pointing out obvious things. He's mafia!"

I think this is more an issue of the mafia game in general.

I'd really like to see a system where our names are hidden. I don't think its really fun when you have to try and be mindful of how you've acted the last six games.

Such a system would also help the sites administration (Redack, Xhin particularly) who tend to get targetted for death just because they're... Redack and Xhin : P

Same goes for me this game. If I had played under a fake name I probably wouldn't have died Round 1 (although, given that mods can check IP addresses perhaps its a moot point)

October 8, 2012
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Count Dooku

Zanic, your always suspicious because your always Mafia. You have been Mafia more then I have been a plain Townie.

If we hide our names AND roles, how do we know who we are talking about?

October 9, 2012
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Feral

I know seriously. I'm actually sick of being mafia. I was mafia for my first time, then the good twin (which I died right at the beginning), then mafia 3 times in a row I think. It's ridiculous.

October 9, 2012
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Zanic

Strange that the FBI Agent didn't take action. Most likely it's someone inactive (like FAW--Feral speculated about that earlier). Anyway, I think Trever's pretty likely to go down this round, but after that it's pretty much a coin flip as to whether the other two Mafia are detected. Hopefully it's fairly obvious by now that Thunder and Majora aren't Mafia, and the town can focus on the remaining unconfirmeds.

October 9, 2012
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white lancer

@Feral: The reason why I posted that was because I thought that if I didn't post anything at all, I'd be lynched. It seems to be the go to response. Kill the inactive! Wooohoo! -_- And I didn't have anything to go off of.

I was also hoping that they would kill off Dooku when I left that note on the board.

October 10, 2012
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Helius

JN has been playing a very good game but he might be overplaying his hand now. Honestly, right now he would probably be better off throwing Trever under the bus and trying to win with two Mafia members left, because with Trever having a good chance of going down his defense of Trever might make Majora and Thunder reconsider their assumption of him as innocent. We'll just have to see how strong that assumption is.

October 10, 2012
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white lancer

I can't stand inactive players. Why sign up for the game and then not even play it. It makes me so mad.

October 10, 2012
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Zanic

Hello, anybody home?

I would have been here sooner, but you have no idea how hard it was keeping those 2 damn horses close enough together and not move so I could gather all my body parts and put my self back together.

Frigging cat ran off with one of my nuts. Little bastard.

@`Roxas` With out giving any names. Was the last person I picked to check before the Mafia had me Drawn and Quartered "innocent or guilty"?

October 10, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

I can't stand inactive players. Why sign up for the game and then not even play it


I agree 100%. I know it's nice to have the numbers, but when you have 2-3 players that are inactive it can sure screw up the flow of the game.

October 10, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

I can't stand inactive players. Why sign up for the game and then not even play it. It makes me so mad.

Neither can I, but by the time they could be deemed inactive (not including the time the domain was down), the game was too close to do a host kill. Otherwise, I would probably go ahead and do that and switch that players role to another (like Trever did for Xhin and yourself).

Was the last person I picked to check before the Mafia had me Drawn and Quartered "innocent or guilty"?

I could by an ass and tell you to wait and see after the game is over, but the player you selected to check was innocent. However, one of those innocent checks are Mafia.

October 11, 2012
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`Roxas`

However, one of those innocent checks are Mafia.

Thanks. Yea. I'm almost certain now who that is. Will look forward to seeing for sure who it is at the end of the game.

October 11, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

Well let's see... it's MM, Jo, or your unreported check.

October 11, 2012
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hezekiah

I like Frustro's analysis a lot. Good thinking on his part.

October 11, 2012
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white lancer

Just realized that hosts like putting me as Governor for some reason.

October 11, 2012
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Helius

Just realized that hosts like putting me as Governor for some reason.

As I told Zanic, luck of the draw.

I kept the names in the order that they registered, decided upon the roles I wanted to use, put the roles in a randomizer and POOF! roles were assigned.

October 11, 2012
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`Roxas`

Naa. I understand that it's random. I'm just dumbfounded at how I keep getting mafia.

October 11, 2012
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Zanic

Alright, by this point, the Mafia have already basically won (barring a miracle moment of brilliance from one of the living players). One Mafia member has been playing a fantastic game and getting under the radar by everyone, and while I can see things that sound suspicious from this end of the afterlife, I guess it's not that obvious from that end.

I'm happy the Town got 2 Mafia members at least, but the only way I see this ending in victory is if the living players realize there is NO REASON this player should be considered innocent. Best case scenario is that the FBI Agent wakes up and arrests one of their suspects, they lynch the other one (since one of the two is certainly Mafia), and then they realize that the last Mafia player is very active indeed.

October 12, 2012
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white lancer

Best case scenario is that the FBI Agent wakes up and arrests one of their suspects, they lynch the other one (since one of the two is certainly Mafia), and then they realize that the last Mafia player is very active indeed.

...although, if that happens, I could see a situation where the only active player left is the last Mafia member (and I guess the FBI Agent). In that situation, it would actually be better for the FBI Agent to arrest the only other active player because then they'd basically be free to arrest whoever they want and hopefully hit a Mafia member (giving them a better chance to actually get points from it rather than allowing the Town to lynch them). I kinda doubt they'll be thinking this way, though.

October 12, 2012
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white lancer

Trever, that was not meant to seem like a merciless kill (although it was). Nothing personal?

October 12, 2012
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`Roxas`

I could practically see that execution unfolding in front of my eyes. And it was awesome.

October 12, 2012
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white lancer

Was it in 3D?

October 12, 2012
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`Roxas`

Oh, of course. The glasses hurt my eyes but it was worth it.

October 12, 2012
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white lancer

YES, THE MACHINE WORKED!

I'd like to here Trever's input on his death. (look)

October 12, 2012
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`Roxas`

I wouldn't use chains... maybe whips. {*^_^*}

But now that I think of it, the Governor's mansion should definitely have a dungeon.... um... for... (hehe) house staff.

October 13, 2012
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Helius

DONE.

October 13, 2012
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`Roxas`

Gotta love the inactive night roles...

October 13, 2012
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hezekiah

Roxas, that was a terrible, gruesome death you gave me. You are a horrible person. I may have been Mafia but no one deserves to die like that...

October 13, 2012
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Trever Leingod

There were no objections to Saw-like deaths, and I delivered.

October 13, 2012
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`Roxas`

Yeah but Frustro was the one who wanted it, so I thought he'd get it if he died. Or the Mafia would kill like that. But the townies? You must really hate me o_o

October 13, 2012
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Trever Leingod

No malice was meant by the death. If you want to blame anybody, blame the sick bastard whose basement it took place!

Like I said at the end of the day, there were no objections. Fair game from that point out this game. If it makes you feel any better, Redack demanded that a warning be installed on the forum.

October 13, 2012
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`Roxas`

I misunderstood apparently... next time I am objecting {:P}

October 13, 2012
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Trever Leingod

That, and your reply in the Mafia thread to your Godfather made me think you'd be okay be killed grotesquely.

October 13, 2012
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`Roxas`

Ugh! That made me sick. How did you know I hate needles so much? Figured it would be me, though.

JN has been playing a very good game but he might be overplaying his hand now. Honestly, right now he would probably be better off throwing Trever under the bus and trying to win with two Mafia members left.

Are you saying JN is Mafia??? Boy, I never would have guessed. Maybe MM9 will figure that out. At least I got 2 out of 4 (and led the charge against Zanic too {:P})

No survival points and almost definitely no victory points. Man, I'm never gonna get to host.

October 13, 2012
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White Thunder

I.... actually had no clue. :|

October 14, 2012
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`Roxas`

Personally, I would be honored if someone took the time to think up such an elaborate death scene for me. :P

I'm not really holding out much hope for MM9 figuring JN out, at least not with the way he's been talking. It's possible he was saying stuff like that to try to remain alive, but he seemed pretty determined that JN was innocent. The problem with the logic that JN could have forced the tie/execution of MM9 is that they couldn't be sure it would be an automatic victory--the Town had a two-person advantage and the FBI Agent would have been able to keep them alive. They would have been exposing all but one of their members on the hope that the FBI Agent was inactive, which would have been a big risk (there wasn't a great reason to suspect that at that point). Throwing Zanic under the bus was the best move under the circumstances.

No survival points and almost definitely no victory points. Man, I'm never gonna get to host.

Heh, I think I've survived all of three of these games--and one of those was the first Star Wars game (where we didn't get points anyway) and I was arrested (but still technically alive) in another. I've also lost a depressing proportion of these games, so it's a wonder my score is even as high as it is.

October 14, 2012
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white lancer

I am actually surprised they killed White Thunder. Majora has been being much more of a hassle to the Mafia than WT overall.

No survival points and almost definitely no victory points. Man, I'm never gonna get to host.

It's gonna take forever for me to legally host... the only reason I got to host was to celebrate Jedi Sith's anniversary and Yeano wanted a break. And back then I didn't know Mafia very well, but I've played every game since.

October 14, 2012
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Trever Leingod

This is mostly just on the fly that I am getting these deaths together. I considered just a standard, across the stomach death for you, Trever, but decided against for a much more... quenching one.

This shall make for an interesting finale though.

(If it seems like I'm a bit distracted, I'm in the middle of Kingdom Hearts II and taking out the remaining Organization members.)

October 14, 2012
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`Roxas`

How did you come up with such gruesome deaths while playing an E rated game? {:P}

October 14, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Frustro pitched the idea, remember?

And, c'mon, really? A 15 y/o goes around killing things with a key!

October 14, 2012
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`Roxas`

I am actually surprised they killed White Thunder. Majora has been being much more of a hassle to the Mafia than WT overall.

No, I'm definitely the better player.

October 14, 2012
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White Thunder

It looked to me like you were about equally strong in this game--you both had the same inclinations (toward voting Trever and Zanic) and both made the same blunders (trusting JN too much, suspicion towards Frustro).

October 14, 2012
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white lancer

I was just joking anyway {:P}

October 14, 2012
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White Thunder

I know. I just wanted to point out that you being in his league (at least in this game) isn't actually all that far-fetched. :P

October 14, 2012
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white lancer

Well, unless the FBI Agent suddenly wakes up in time to arrest a Mafia member, that's game. Frustro should have gone with his analysis from last round. :-/

October 15, 2012
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white lancer

So is CtR the other Mafia? Actually, if I was alive I would probably have gone after him, even though I was suspicious of 85 as well.

October 15, 2012
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White Thunder

So is CtR the other Mafia?

Yes.

October 15, 2012
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`Roxas`

No I agree, both are good, it's just that MM9 was generally just being a bit more pushy. Plus JN was looking to lynch #85 and WT was more for that than MM9 was.

October 15, 2012
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Trever Leingod

So I was right about CtR. But I never woulda guessed JN. Our only hope is that the FBI wakes up (or that 85 is the FBI which I seriously doubt). But even then they'll kill MM9 and it doesn't appear that him or Frustro is suspicious of JN in the slightest. Good playing by him.

October 15, 2012
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White Thunder

What short memories these players seem to have. #85's actions this game have been pretty much identical to his actions last game, when I convinced the Town to lynch him instead of me.

And yeah, JN has been playing a very good game. There really should have been a red flag about him because he led the charge against Serpe (saving Zanic for one more round) and then was wishy-washy about voting Zanic until it looked like he didn't have a choice, but for whatever reason everyone overlooked that. Now he's leading the charge against #85 and I STILL doubt that anyone would have real suspicion of him if the Town were to survive this round.

October 15, 2012
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white lancer

JN is playing a very strong game. And he'll be bearing no blame, as they would win with a night kill, barring FAW shows up and arrests one of them.

October 15, 2012
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`Roxas`

JN and I were doing the majority of the planning in the Mafia thread, coming up with various scenarios to win the game. Even after I got the saw, he's following through pretty well. I am sure MM9 will be beating his head against the desk when he finds out JN has been playing him the whole time.

October 15, 2012
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Trever Leingod

What short memories these players seem to have. #85's actions this game have been pretty much identical to his actions last game, when I convinced the Town to lynch him instead of me.

That's exactly what I was thinking the night I died. I learned from my mistakes and I intended to go after CtR the next day.

Of course JN just mentioned that CtR is suspicious, probably just to further convince the town of his innocence, but if the FBI Agent (FAW did you all say? Makes sense) does show up they'll probably go after CtR. Could have been a mistake on JN's part.

October 15, 2012
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White Thunder

Of course it's extremely unlikely that she does show up. But whatever.

October 15, 2012
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White Thunder

barring FAW shows up and arrests one of them.

There's very little chance of that.

With no disrespect intended towards `Roxas` but this game was Mafia titled when there was no way to protect the cop.
I'm not saying there should always be a Doctor or whatever to protect the cop, but you need a way to protect him at least once. Like a bullet proof vest.
A smart player with a little luck and that vest should be able to get in and report at least 6 reports.

October 15, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

I actually don't have a real problem with the balance this time around in terms of roles. Maybe it was a little skewed toward the Mafia (in this particular situation I probably would have removed the Godfather, so at least the Cop checks could be trusted), but what hurt us more was the server issues and the fact that a full fourth of the game wound up being mostly inactive (and they all wound up on the Town side).

I wonder what happened to FAW. She's never gone AWOL like this before. I can believe it happening with #85 and Serpe, and Kassie has never been extremely active (I'm sure she and a few others probably lost interest back on Day 2 when the server issues were happening), but FAW played her previous games all the way through. :-/

October 15, 2012
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white lancer

With no disrespect intended towards `Roxas` but this game was Mafia titled when there was no way to protect the cop.

That's probably the big thing I regret not doing. Sorry about that, chief. {:?}

Well, well, well, speak of the gawrsh darn Agent.

October 15, 2012
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`Roxas`

There's hope! That ends the round, right? Hopefully she gets CtR tonight... even better would be if she goes after JN.

October 16, 2012
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White Thunder

Hi #85. This game just continues to drag on...

October 16, 2012
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hezekiah

It will be over soon, hezy. It has been quite tiresome.

October 16, 2012
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`Roxas`

White Thunder, your buddy will be joining us soon. {roll}

October 16, 2012
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`Roxas`

I'll be curious to see why FAW decided I was worth killing.

And if for some reason FAW switches to Jo or CtR, I'll hope that the town decides not to make a kill tomorrow. Would make the naive odds better, assuming she's around for Night 7.

October 16, 2012
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hezekiah

A big, Afterlife welcome to CtR and MM9!

October 16, 2012
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`Roxas`

So she did make a successful arrest, hooray.

To restate my previous point, I hope the town makes no kill this round, under the assumption that FAW will be around to make an arrest. The town can't technically know that she's the Agent, so it could improve the odds of hitting the Godfather (going off of no information at all, it raises the probability of a town success from 25% to 33% and with no more danger than a lynch.

Also: CtR and I will get survival points for this game, correct? I may be malnourished, but my ticker's still ticking!

October 16, 2012
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hezekiah

I totally did not see it coming. I didn't forsee FAW doing something.

Yes, arrested is still alive, so you get a survival point, as per my example when I used the FBI Agent.

October 16, 2012
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Yeano

Actually, you, CtR, and any other person arrested (should it come down to it) will be forced to compete in a fight for your lives in the prison cell.

October 16, 2012
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`Roxas`

Against each other.

Seriously though, you get the survival point.

October 16, 2012
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`Roxas`

YES FAW KEEPING US GOING.

Of course they're just going to lynch Kassie. Ah well.

Welcome to my compadre MM9 {:P} I think me and you played a really great game as de facto leaders of the town... but we made one fatal error.

October 16, 2012
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White Thunder

Who would've thought that this game would come down to the bitter end. This is it.

October 16, 2012
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Zanic

well had i thought shed actually arrest me i woulda killed someone :(

October 16, 2012
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CtR Black

And FAW comes through! Shortly after I mentioned that it would be strange for her to abandon the game, might I add (no, I didn't have anything to do with it).

Of course they're just going to lynch Kassie. Ah well.

Yes, because lynching inactive players has worked SO WELL this time around and hasn't been instigated by the Mafia once.

I'm hoping the speed of that night round and the fact that JN led charges against TWO innocent players (the only two innocent players that the Town has lynched) will help the other players figure him out. But if I were FAW, I wouldn't vote at all--I'd just show up, say 'hi, I'm the FBI Agent that just saved your skins, please make your case' and then force a tie so that I would have a chance to get the points at night. Alternatively, she could make her chances of hitting a Mafia in the night better if they lynched someone today, but then she'd also be risking eliminating the last Mafia member today.

And I actually think the game itself has been fairly exciting ever since the server came back on. The reason it seems to drag on is because the large proportion of inactive players makes it impossible to get a supermajority when the result is a foregone conclusion. Also, some of us have been languishing in here for freaking ever.

October 16, 2012
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white lancer

AW SNAP @ FAW. Didn't see that coming.

And seriously? Jo Nathan REALLY had to end up being the godfather? I wanted to not believe that so hard, but every time we kept killing someone that was mafia and they weren't godfather, I was like "JO NATHAN BETTER NOT BE THE GODFATHER." I think he made it too obvious this night round that it wasn't Kassie by killing someone right off (seeing as Kassie hasn't been online). Frustro sort of proved his innocence and FAW is clearly the FBI Agent.

October 16, 2012
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MajorasMask9

I just saw that Frustro realized that both mafia members would have needed to vote for the round to end. I can totally see him pulling through and lynching Jo Nathan this round. After 3 days of evading what seemed like MYLO I don't want this to end with a town loss :(.

October 16, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Welcome to my compadre MM9 {:P} I think me and you played a really great game as de facto leaders of the town... but we made one fatal error.


I was so sad when you died :(. But I knew it was going to be either you or me that round. You were the only person that I legitimately 100% trusted at that point in the game.

Jo Nathan did an amazing job at gaining my trust though. I was a little wary of trusting him earlier on, but he sold me on Day 6. I assumed that if he was mafia, he would have gone after either CtR Black or Frustro, but he specifically told me that he didn't feel comfortable picking between those two (which in hindsight I probably should have been a bit suspicious of). Since I started trusting Frustro last round, I assumed that if Jo Nathan and CtR Black were mafia, they would have voted together. A bit surprised they didn't, actually!

October 16, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Alternatively, she could make her chances of hitting a Mafia in the night better if they lynched someone today, but then she'd also be risking eliminating the last Mafia member today.

Except if they lynch wrongly, Mafia wins.

October 16, 2012
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`Roxas`

You know I made that same point about FAW forcing a tie, right lancer? And I was about to point out the mistake before Roxas beat me to it...

Obviously I won't deserve a good playing point, but I'm hopeful for 3 total...

October 16, 2012
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hezekiah

Roxas, you make the townies worse than the Mafia sometimes {:P} Such brutal, sick murders. Even if these guys aren't Mafia, there's something really wrong with people that execute people like this.

I can't believe FAW actually did something finally... been quiet ever since arresting hezekiah, and then she actually casts a vote and then arrests CtR in the night to save the town.

I think Jo Nathan is very likely screwed, unless he can convince Frustro that FAW is the Godfather... but then Frustro said he was pretty sure he knew who the agent was.

This game has been a nail biter. Four days of "MYLO" so far.

October 16, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Alternatively, she could make her chances of hitting a Mafia in the night better if they lynched someone today, but then she'd also be risking eliminating the last Mafia member today.

Wrong. A lynch would end the game either way. If the Godfather is lynched, town wins. If a townie is lynched, the ratio becomes 1-1-1, giving the mafia the win before FAW has a chance to arrest Jo. If she wants to arrest, she has to force a tie, allowing her arrest to end the game.

October 16, 2012
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Feral

Except if they lynch wrongly, Mafia wins.

Indeed. I was thinking that we had 4 players left and so time for two more kills, but I forgot that the FBI Agent doesn't count as part of the ratio.

And yep, hezy, saw that. I just wanted to make the point that it explicitly benefited FAW as the FBI Agent (rather than just theoretically increasing the Town's odds of getting it right), since it really doesn't matter to her if the Town wins or loses.

Obviously I won't deserve a good playing point, but I'm hopeful for 3 total...

One of the many downsides of dying early, I'm afraid. At least you didn't technically die. :P

And yeah, JN did a great job. I like to think I would have been a little suspicious of him after the Serpe vote, but he was one of the players I considered most innocent when I died (course, we didn't have much discussion back then). I think he's got a good chance at pulling it off even though it is really tough to win in these three-person situations.

October 16, 2012
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white lancer

Also, I'm glad this Halloween stuff started this late in the game. I would have been terribly confused having to deal with all these alternate names during the main part of the game.

October 16, 2012
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white lancer

Trev is having WAY to much fun with the costumes! {pump}

October 16, 2012
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Feral

I usually try on a few costumes each year ^_^

October 16, 2012
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Trever Leingod

The winning team in this game is definitely going to be decided on one factor: Whether or not FAW will be online again in the next 72 hours.

October 16, 2012
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MajorasMask9

(hehe)(hehe)(hehe)

October 16, 2012
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`Roxas`

What a lovely prospect...

October 16, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Solid move by Frustro to convince FAW to lynch CtR--not only did it save the Town, it practically guarantees his innocence. At this point, JN looks like he's in trouble (as long as FAW comes back, which I think she will) although there's still a slight chance they could go for Kassie.

October 16, 2012
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white lancer

Frustro seems to be leaning toward Kassie... It should be obvious to him that JN is Mafia at this point.

October 16, 2012
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White Thunder

(as long as FAW comes back, which I think she will)


She's only got a little over 22 hours left to do it.(fedup)

October 17, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

She's still got the night round, and Frustro seems like he can get in contact with her.

As far as I can remember, the only reason Majora thought there was an inactive member in the Mafia for sure was because he counted Jo Nathan as innocent. Hoping Frustro picks up on that.

October 17, 2012
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white lancer

I never really though that one of the mafia was for sure inactive, but I was trying to emphasize the possibility as much as possible to try to give the mafia the idea that "if we don't kill anyone, then Majora will want to go after Kassie or FAW." Though I kind of think I was too open about that near the end of Day 5 when I mentioned how if nobody was killed, that Frustro would most likely be innocent (even though I was orginally planning on going after Frustro on Day 6 regardless). Didn't really work the way I was hoping it would!

October 17, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Unless Kassie shows up and votes with Jo, that's game over. And even if she does, FAW will probably just arrest Jo in the night.

October 17, 2012
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white lancer

Jo Nathan sped that up a bit. It's finally over... {duck}

October 17, 2012
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MajorasMask9

This game was plain painful. Glad it finally keeled over.

I am honestly astonished the town won. Jo played a tremendous game, and probably had won if it weren't for half the players vanishing halfway through. Both Jo and Frustro deserve great playing points.

October 17, 2012
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Feral

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