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game 12 mafia thread

Posted September 22, 2012 by `Roxas`

Welcome, Crime Ring. Your members are as follow:

Jo Nathan, you are the Godfather.
CtR Black, you are the Mafia Investigator.
Zanic, you are the Executioner.
Trever Leingod, you are the Mafioso.

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CtR, since you are the only one with a role to use, you may make your decision.

September 22, 2012
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`Roxas`

I'd like to investigate marjorasmask

September 22, 2012
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CtR Black

:P Blah I get the boring role.

September 23, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Heh, mine isn't particularly different from yours, except I can sleep better knowing the cop can't identify me.

I'm just glad to not be a townie again. :P

September 23, 2012
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Jo Nathan

MM9 is a Townie.

September 23, 2012
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`Roxas`

Why am I always mafia? Hahaha. I'm getting tired of this.

September 23, 2012
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Zanic

Luck of the draw, my friend, luck of the draw.

September 23, 2012
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`Roxas`

so lets constitute a plan, cause im not gonna survive for more than 3 rounds

September 24, 2012
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CtR Black

I might just be on the paranoid side, but Zanic, is there a chance we're all exposed if lancer jumps on his computer and is logged on as you, since you two would be on the same home network? Not sure how you guys handled this in the past.

Sorry I didn't get a chance to really check out the game today. I agree we should constitute a plan, so I will try to get on more tomorrow.

September 24, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Normally that would be a problem, but him and I decided that we are going to logout every time we get off. It's pretty easy to remember.

September 24, 2012
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Zanic

Yeah, I guess that's a good policy. {:P}

I'm wondering who we should take out tonight. You guys have more experience with most of the other players than I do, but if I have anything to go by from the previous two games, it's that lancer and Count Dooku are forces to be reckoned with. Frustro, albeit new, does seem to be sharp so I'm weary of him too.

At least Redack isn't here this time. His skill at picking out Mafia is uncanny.

I'm also wondering if there's anything useful I can say/do in the main thread to take advantage of the fact that the cop can't detect my role? Something that could be considered risky enough to warrant a cop visit (to which I'd show up innocent), but not suspicious enough to get lynched or arson'd?

September 24, 2012
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Jo Nathan

i'm thinking we should take out dooku tonight.

September 24, 2012
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CtR Black

I agree.

In the meantime, we should try to avoid doing anything that would get him to voice any kind of suspicion toward one of us. Because if he does, and we kill him, everyone will be like "he suspected CtR/Jo/Zanic/Trever and now he's dead, so CtR/Jo/Zanic/Trever is probably Mafia".

Best case scenario, he voices suspicion over someone who's innocent before he dies.

September 24, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Obviously we wouldn't fall into the trap that they're proposing since they're outright saying it for everyone to see... {roll}

September 24, 2012
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Jo Nathan

We need to kill the thinkers first thing, starting on how active each one is. Then perhaps focus on any power roles we find. I guess if we find a power role early, then we can decide the better option.

September 24, 2012
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Trever Leingod

We have plenty of time to decide who to kill. Before my opinion, I'll wait for more info from people.

September 24, 2012
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Zanic

I'd be careful how much we agree with each other on stuff in the main thread. If we all pipe in and say "yeah let's wait 36 hours" that's one thing that could connect us all together. Probably nothing will become of it, but you never know who might pick up on stuff like that.

Not trying to be the obnoxious noob that comes in here bossing everyone around.... I just feel maybe we should be more careful is all. :$

September 24, 2012
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Jo Nathan

im honestly just now starting to remember who mafia is. i'm just trying to seem not suspicious for the first few rounds

September 24, 2012
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CtR Black

Yeah, scratch my last comment. I was letting myself fret a bit too much. It would seem not much will happen this day round anyway.

September 25, 2012
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Jo Nathan

LOL, we are the usual suspects and we were cast as Mafia. Let's hope being red herrings will actually prove useful for once.

Above all, we must act casual. Perhaps even repeat our line of thoughts (and look over our posts) from when we were townies, and following those examples when posting.

September 25, 2012
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Trever Leingod

You quiet bunch can choose your actions tonight.

September 25, 2012
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`Roxas`

I know it had been discussed that we might take out Count Dooku. I still think he may be our best choice. Thoughts?

As for investigating, I don't really have any suggestions but it's ultimately up to CtR anyway.

I just hope one of us doesn't get taken out tonight. I doubt the arsonist or vigilante will risk acting this early, but the FBI agent has nothing to lose and will most definitely waste no time tonight.

September 25, 2012
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Jo Nathan

I know it had been discussed that we might take out Count Dooku. I still think he may be our best choice. Thoughts?


Absolutely. It's possible he is the governor (he did governor postings last time he got the role) and he's a big thinker.

I would actually recommend checking Feral. Something about his little dream comments seemed like he was trying to lighten the air and move the spotlight off him (also implied he was a townie a bit sooner than needed).

September 25, 2012
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Trever Leingod

I agree with Dooku. There's a strong possibility that he could be the governor. The governor could be the role that we want to take out first as well considering he could prevent the lynchings.

September 25, 2012
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Zanic

So are those three votes to kill Count Dooku?

September 25, 2012
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`Roxas`

My vote is for him.

September 26, 2012
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Zanic

My official vote is for Dooku as well.

September 26, 2012
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Trever Leingod

so yeah i didnt know how to access gtx0 so i missed the night round

September 27, 2012
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CtR Black

Bah, same here. I only got back on because I remembered about the GTX0 facebook page and followed the link.

September 27, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Ok, after reading the day 2 thread thus far, I think maybe it's an opportune time to kill Feral on the next night. Because of his mild suspicion over Majora, even if it's in a joking manner, maybe Feral's death will cast suspicion over Majora? Maybe that could get Majora lynched or arrested methinks.

September 27, 2012
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Jo Nathan

yes i was considering the same thing, if things stay as they are

September 27, 2012
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CtR Black

so the question i have to ask... can i make up my investigation

September 27, 2012
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CtR Black

You can make one investigation during Night Two.

Unfortunately for all parties involved, I didn't think about extending the Night Round until I already registered the death of Dooku and arrest of hezy into the CP. Sorry about that.

September 28, 2012
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`Roxas`

That's a shame....

Oh well. At least the vigilante was taken off our hands for us. If we can evade deaths/arrests this next day/night cycle we will be in a really good position.

September 28, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Gah, it blows we lost some night actions due to the site being down (shifty)

I'm really shocked Dooku was just a townie. I wonder if the governor posted that announcement to cast suspicion on Dooku to get the spotlight off them. Clever.

September 28, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Ok, after reading the day 2 thread thus far, I think maybe it's an opportune time to kill Feral on the next night. Because of his mild suspicion over Majora, even if it's in a joking manner, maybe Feral's death will cast suspicion over Majora? Maybe that could get Majora lynched or arrested methinks.

This would work better on white lancer right now. He's a more dangerous thinker, and Feral was basically joking - lancer seems a bit more serious. Unless we get a better option later, we should definitely take out white lancer.

September 29, 2012
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Trever Leingod

You may choose a target to kill and, in CtR's case, an investigation.

September 30, 2012
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`Roxas`

I vote for white lancer. Unless any of you have a reason why we shouldn't.

September 30, 2012
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Zanic

Trever's reasoning makes sense, so I'll vote for white lancer.

September 30, 2012
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Jo Nathan

investigate 85 por favor

October 1, 2012
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CtR Black

#85 is a Townie

October 1, 2012
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`Roxas`

This is so great. That's four down already.

October 1, 2012
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Zanic

Things seem to be going our way really well and we haven't really had to follow much strategy, other than choosing who to kill each night.

I'd like to come up with some strategy anyway though. Watching the town die on its own might get too boring if you ask me.

October 2, 2012
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Jo Nathan

What I wouldn't give to see the Mafia thread right now...


Feral, when you read through this thread after the game, I can only imagine your disappointment to see that not a whole lot is going on in here. lol

October 2, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Aye, considering we aren't making a very complicated plan, things are very much in our favor. The town so far has handed us a major advantage with two extra night kills, and them choosing not to lynch anyone the first two days.

October 2, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Actually Jo Nathan, since you mentioned looking back at the earlier day threads in the main thread, you could at some point (not necessarily today) lead a lynch-mob against me, or get the Cop on me to check me out. I'm just a regular Mafioso - no powers. So far, people get suspicious of me very very easily, even if the evidence is actually quite silly. The Cop can't see you as guilty, so if they kill me and then learn I was Mafia, they won't ever suspect you (we would hope).

I think that right there is a nice strategy. I'm willing to take one for the team.

October 2, 2012
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Trever Leingod

I had been mulling over strategies like that for some time, to be honest, and I like the idea of doing that. Here's what I think:

I feel that Mafia members suspecting/taking the lead against each other has become an expected tactic, and with the Godfather included this game, I'm sure the town knows that role would be the one to use that tactic. If I took the lead against you, it might backfire.

However, if you deliberately did something suspicious, it would be less suspicious on my part to take the lead, or at least be the second one to take the lead. We'd just have to space out our replies by maybe an hour or more so it won't look obvious.

Also, if Zanic had to take one for the team it wouldn't be as big a blow either. Since the town will be anal about NOT giving the executioner a chance, that basically nullifies the role anyway. It's not Zanic's fault at all though, so I hope he doesn't take offense.

Right now, we're doing so well we don't really need to sacrifice anyone at all. We could revisit this if we have to later - with the possible lynching, FBI arrest and arson kill, things could change overnight. It really is still anyone's game.

October 2, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Yes. No need to really come up with an elaborate plan yet, seeing as things are going our way.

October 2, 2012
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Zanic

Zanic and CtR are being pointed out in the main thread.... I'd hardly say inactivity should be considered real evidence for being in the Mafia, as there are plenty of others who have barely posted at all. {:?}

We'll have to play this round carefully. Zanic, if White Thunder puts more heat on you, would you be pissed if I jump in and second his motion?

October 2, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Serpe or Kassie will probably go. Maybe they won't pursue you further.

October 2, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Yeah. My plan is to keep cool and barely post when being accused. As that will totally go against my past behavior. If WT keeps on me, then feel free. You are the godfather after all.

October 3, 2012
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Zanic

Heh, I don't exactly see myself as leader material, but I don't want to see any of us die. I would only resort to that tactic if it looked like things were already leading up to your lynching.

The main thread is awfully quiet. We might get a reset after all. If not, I wonder how the others will respond to my vote...

October 3, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Aye, I agree I should do something that rallies attention to myself before you lead the mob on me. People tend to be suspicious of me very easily anyway.

For the time being I doubt people would be against killing Serpe. There have been instances of a completely inactive Mafia member (like 9 a few games back).

October 3, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Decisions, decisions; What shall yours be?

October 4, 2012
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`Roxas`

I say we go for Feral or chiefsonny. They are both talking quite a bit and seem to prove the most dangerous for now. If we off Feral, we might up the suspicion on Majora even more. So I vote for Feral.

October 4, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Hmm. Zanic, I think you're screwed. WT lobbied to lynch you, and since he didn't get his way today and we ended up lynching a townie, I imagine he will be back with a vengeance against you tomorrow. If we kill him tonight you will almost certainly become suspect #1. And also it's possible the FBI agent or arsonist was convinced by WT and will target you tonight.

WT is one of the better thinkers. Would it be good to get him out as soon as possible before he does more damage?

Of course killing Feral may put Majora in the spotlight, so I'm deliberating over that...

October 4, 2012
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Jo Nathan

If we remove Majora and #85 from our hit list since we know they're just townies, we have the following:

FAW
White Thunder
Kassie
Frustro
chiefsonny
Feral

Three of them are townies, three of them have roles. We get to kill one and investigate one, so the odds are very probable that we uncover one of the roles tonight.

Things are getting pretty close now. >:)

October 4, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Yeah. I've pretty much accepted that I won't last much longer. That's okay. I think we've gotten enough of a lead. I say we should go for Feral.

October 4, 2012
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Zanic

i vote for feral

and i'll investigate frusto

October 5, 2012
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CtR Black

I vote for Feral.

October 5, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Vote for Feral

October 5, 2012
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Zanic

So I count four votes for Feral and an investigation on Frustro. Is this correct?

October 5, 2012
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`Roxas`

yeah

October 5, 2012
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CtR Black

Yeah, my final vote is for Feral.

October 5, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Frustro is the Townie.

October 5, 2012
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`Roxas`

Okay, basically WT screwed himself over. Despite his suspicions on Zanic.

In a single sentence, WT pointed that if the town lynches a townie today and the Mafia hits anyone but the FBI agent tonight, it was over. He then immediately asks the cop to reveal all his info, whether or not he got guilty verdicts. Chiefsonny reveals his info. Now this could be a fake move (maybe he's the agent trying to cover for the cop or something) but it makes WT look suspicious, since he reduced the town's chances of surviving the night by quite a bit.

In the case that none of us get lynched today, we should kill Frusto just in case chiefsonny was lying.

MM9 is also in a hot seat because he was singled by both Feral and lancer, and they both died on consecutive days.

October 5, 2012
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Trever Leingod

That was a brilliant move Trever. You might've just saved me.

October 5, 2012
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Zanic

I might just be digging a bigger hole. I'm not very good as mafia haha.

October 5, 2012
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Zanic

Hopefully it will save you. MM9 suddenly looks very defensive and it could turn against him.

October 5, 2012
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Trever Leingod

At this point, I think if anyone votes for either MM9 or WT, we should jump the bandwagon and vote them off. Us four alone could make someone eligible for an executioner kill.

October 5, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Fingers crossed. I'm pretty sure Zanic will get votes from WT and Majora no matter what anyone does in the Day 4 thread, so the objective should be to not let them convince at least three others.

However, I fear that Trever is now looking guilty by association (at least from Majora's viewpoint) and I'm looking potentially guilty just because I was investigated...? Despite the fact there are other "innocents" that haven't been investigated, they're just assuming that the Godfather has to be either Majora or myself. It really doesn't make sense, but the un-logic could work in their favor... (no)

CtR should probably not do anything whatsoever to draw attention to himself, in case the town decides to go after Zanic, Trever and myself in succession.

October 5, 2012
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Jo Nathan

I kinda wish we had left Feral alive to duke it out with Majora now. {:?}

October 5, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Currently any reasoning they have to be pointing fingers at us is flawed - the evidence is lacking. MM9 looks pretty darn guilty and WT screwed himself over by that first post today.

October 5, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Sorry for that curve ball in the main thread. I wanted to point that out before someone else did.

I think it's best if I don't voice any suspicions against Majora. I have a bad feeling about this round, and if shit hits the fan I think the Mafia victory stands a better chance if we do not look like we have a common agenda. Gnome sane?

October 5, 2012
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Jo Nathan

OH SNAP. Thank you #85.

October 5, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Sounds good. I understand, and I explained my reasoning for my statement in the thread.

Haha, he's been pretty inactive all game and he throws us a helping hand xD Nice.

October 5, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Ok, if we all vote for Majora now we get the executioner's kill, but I do NOT think the round ends at that point so they would probably have a better idea of who to lynch.

So if we execute Majora, they lynch us, and we kill one of the town during the night, we still will have another round I think. Is that right?

October 5, 2012
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Jo Nathan

It will go like this:

Now: Ratio: 4-6-1

Executioner Kill: 4-5-1

One of us gets lynched: 3-5-1

Night Kill: 3-4-1

Or something like that, assuming the FBI agent doesn't decide to arrest one of us as well. We definitely have to remain cool and think like a townie while in the main thread.

Which is actually precisely what I am doing. I've been a townie so much, part of me is actually thinking MM9 is actually guilty because of all the evidence against him xD

October 5, 2012
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Trever Leingod

That's all assuming we use the executioner power. It might serve our interests to not use it, unless people start swinging at both WT and MM9.

October 5, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Well, just let me know.

October 6, 2012
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Zanic

And yeah. I think you might have come out a little too strong on my side Trever, but if people are voting for MM9 anyway, then I guess it's fine.

October 6, 2012
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Zanic

The reason for defending you was because there is no logical evidence against you. I never go against people that have no evidence against them as a townie, so I am keeping that line of thought while Mafia as well. If MM9 brought something believable to the table, I would have been a bit more lax with my defense.

October 6, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Okay. Just making sure you hadn't forgotten.

October 6, 2012
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Zanic

Dang... I'm not sure we can save you this time, Zanic.

October 7, 2012
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Trever Leingod

And if I die, we can't use the executioner power anymore.

October 8, 2012
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Zanic

Someone should try to put some dirt on 85 for randomly voting MM9. Especially tomorrow after they find out I'm mafia.

October 8, 2012
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Zanic

That seems like our current best option. We certainly would want to divert attention away from ourselves as much as possible, seeing as all of us have been the target of suspicions for various reasons.

If I might make a suggestion, I think it would fare better for us if we ease into the idea of #85 being guilty when Day 5 starts. If we get too trigger happy and try to condemn him right away it might make it obvious that we're trying to take advantage of his mis-vote. If we make it look like we're mulling it over for some time, we won't look anxious. We should also try to avoid looking like a team when we do this.

October 8, 2012
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Jo Nathan

I am trying to remain as varied as possible in my decisions, mulling over thoughts quite a bit before I make a decision. Much like how I do things as a townie.

October 8, 2012
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Trever Leingod

I have an idea here that is making me regret using up my vote...

If you and CtR both vote for Majora at the last minute we could kill him. We use our Mafia kill on chiefsonny and assuming he really is the cop we win.

If one more person votes for Zanic, you and CtR could at least tie the votes for a no-kill. We use our Mafia kill on chiefsonny, and then on the next day we all vote for someone and activate the executioner's kill for the win.

Of course if we try this and get out-voted at the last second, you and CtR are screwed for the next two rounds.

October 8, 2012
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Jo Nathan

And I'm not sure if CtR will read this in time anyway. We only have two hours to discuss anything before the day ends.

October 8, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Well we were too late to save Zanic, but hopefully CtR and myself don't end up in hot water because of any last minute votes.

We definitely need to take out chiefsonny tonight before he gets any more verdicts out, especially myself or CtR. My vote goes for him.

October 8, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Yeah, that definitely goes without saying. But just to be clear- I vote for chiefsonny.

October 8, 2012
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Jo Nathan

2-0 vote to kill chief.

October 9, 2012
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`Roxas`

investigate FAW please

October 9, 2012
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CtR Black

FAW is the FBI Agent.

October 9, 2012
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`Roxas`

Ok, I feel like I'm in a really good position right now in the day thread. I'll bide my time for a bit, and then I'll see if I can influence them to lynch #85 with me.

Trev, since they see you as somewhat suspicious, maybe you should refrain from jumping on the #85 bandwagon until the very end, just in case they start suspecting the whole plot. All we need is to get two others to vote for him and - assuming all three of us are available to vote for him before others can start voting for someone else - we're gold.

October 9, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Huh. We might have a better chance with Frustro. Too soon to tell right now though. Trev, I'm really hoping they don't start after you next, which will be the case if Majora has his way. {:?}

I don't think CtR is in any danger right now.

October 9, 2012
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Jo Nathan

What I posted in the day thread just now is a last ditch effort to save you, Trev. If they continue to pursue you I will try to at least get attention on someone else, but I don't think I can actively defend you again without blowing my cover.

October 10, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Just keep going with how things are going. I probably would aim more for #85, he's a lot more suspicious looking than Frustro. I'll play cautious as usual, being too aggressive isn't my townie playing style.

If they start gunning for me with a vengeance though, refrain from defending me at all. It would be best to keep yourself in the clear.

If things take an odd turn after my possible death, you may want to consider this:

Refrain from a night kill for one night. It may put suspicion on the inactive players like FAW, #85 (if he lives through the day) and Kassie. It should buy you guys some time.

October 10, 2012
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Trever Leingod

I really hope we can end this tonight, but I like that idea for a contingency plan.

I plan on laying low for a bit until I see WT's thoughts. He's a real power thinker and I'd like to avoid the trouble of having to convince him if possible, so I plan on gunning for whoever he thinks is more suspicious between Frustro and #85.

I did some reviewing like I said I would in the day thread, and I found a couple things. Let me know what you think-

In one of the day threads #85 apologized for his inactivity and said he finished his exams and would be more active from that point onward. He was not more active from that point onward. This coupled with the fact that falsely claiming townie at the beginning could be a good evasive move, and we may be able to get him lynched. Maybe.

I think I have a stronger case against Frustro. In Days 1 and 3, he seemed fixated on talking about when the cop should reveal. I might be able to pitch this observation as evidence that he was a Mafia trying to get the cop out of the way.

If you get the noose today I'll try arguing that you, Zanic and Frustro were very obviously working together in Day 4 to lynch Majora. Howeve, based on recent replies, it looks like they may not be as eager to pursue you as they were earlier. Let's hope it stays that way.

October 10, 2012
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Jo Nathan

In one of the day threads #85 apologized for his inactivity and said he finished his exams and would be more active from that point onward. He was not more active from that point onward. This coupled with the fact that falsely claiming townie at the beginning could be a good evasive move, and we may be able to get him lynched. Maybe.

MM9 said #85 usually tries to claim a false role later on as Mafia and this maneuver ruined his opportunity, but the change this time is that we have no Janitor on our hands so it's more difficult to make false roleclaims. So yeah, hopefully we can get suspicions high on him.

I think I have a stronger case against Frustro. In Days 1 and 3, he seemed fixated on talking about when the cop should reveal. I might be able to pitch this observation as evidence that he was a Mafia trying to get the cop out of the way.

Then again, MM9 and WT also brought up the cop revealing so this doesn't necessarily look that guilty to those two.

October 11, 2012
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Trever Leingod

I realize I'm not making things easier for you in the day thread... {:P}

I just don't know how to throw dirt at the others while ignoring evidence against you.

I don't think all is lost just yet. If one of them still has suspicions of Frustro and/or #85, you might just be able to pass as a victim of circumstance.

October 11, 2012
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Jo Nathan

{:P} No joke.

But yeah, that's fine. Do what you must.

I hope I can.

If we end up using the inactive Mafia idea, we can bring up the fact that when Zanic died, they were only 3 votes against him. Since all four Mafia were still alive at that time, all the Mafia needed to do was get two votes more against Majora that day to save Zanic and turn the tables - but that didn't happen.

October 11, 2012
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Trever Leingod

That's true, and a really good point. If you die this round, I think this idea would be a good thing to add to a case against Kassie. She already acted suspicious so that may not be hard.

I am not sure what to make of the current situation in the day thread.

- WT was giving you the benefit of the doubt earlier in the round, and he was suspecting both #85 and Frustro.

- Majora was NOT suspecting #85 at all, and he was suspecting you and Frustro.

- Frustro mostly suspects you and #85.

- I started out giving you the benefit of the doubt but I more recently positioned myself to suspect you, #85 and Frustro.

I'm really hoping we can keep WT away from suspecting you, and convince Majora to suspect #85.

CtR was being mildly suspected but I still don't think he's in any danger anytime soon. I'm wondering, CtR, if you voice suspicions toward #85 or Frustro if it would tip the scales in favor of one of them getting lynched....

October 11, 2012
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Jo Nathan

So far so good, I guess. Our current plan of action is pretty sound and I think it's the best we can do for now.

If you think about it, their suspicions of me (while actually accurate xD) are irrational with the evidence they have. Frustro is suspicious of me based on the same reasons he was suspicious to WT. And they keep saying I jumped the MM9 bandwagon when I never voted for him, and I was ignoring evidence against Zanic - which I clearly did not do.

October 11, 2012
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Trever Leingod

If we end up using the inactive Mafia idea, we can bring up the fact that when Zanic died, they were only 3 votes against him. Since all four Mafia were still alive at that time, all the Mafia needed to do was get two votes more against Majora that day to save Zanic and turn the tables - but that didn't happen.

You actually might want to bring this up right away or sometime today, in a bid to protect my hide. I would, but since I am "on" everyone's suspect list it would just look like I am diverting attention away from myself.

October 11, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Also, if someone besides one of us votes for Frustro, we might need to join the cause on that. Four votes on him is very likely to be a majority vote, with #85 being pretty inactive, and Kassie and FAW completely MIA.

October 11, 2012
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Trever Leingod

You actually might want to bring this up right away or sometime today


I'll try to do it within an hour or two, so they don't see replies from all three of us so close together.

Hoping Frustro gets a vote by WT or Majora. My only regret in that regard would be that Roxas won't be able to kill him in a gruesome way that he had requested. {:P}

October 11, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Haha, lol {:P}

October 11, 2012
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Trever Leingod

My only regret in that regard would be that Roxas won't be able to kill him in a gruesome way that he had requested.

Oh yes, there will be blood.

October 11, 2012
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`Roxas`

I think MM9's suspicion of me might have dropped a notch or two just now... hmm...

October 11, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Yeah... I'm surprised how good things are starting to look for us.

You actually might want to bring this up right away or sometime today, in a bid to protect my hide. I would, but since I am "on" everyone's suspect list it would just look like I am diverting attention away from myself.


I'm posting about it now. Maybe to be even more on the safe side, I'd let one of them respond to it first before you say anything.

Oh yes, there will be blood.


:D


October 11, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Um that should be a > : D with no spaces...

October 11, 2012
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Jo Nathan

You know what, I just thought, if someone other than Majora and WT come out and agree with what I just said, it might put a "YES LOOK AT THE INACTIVE PLAYERS, DON'T LOOK AT ME" tag on them, which would be convenient.

Yes, if I were you I'd let someone else agree with my reply before you do, lest you get the aforementioned tag placed on you.

October 11, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Aye, definitely. I might not even acknowledge it.

October 11, 2012
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Trever Leingod

so if when we kill marjora dies i think thats pretty much game

October 12, 2012
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CtR Black

Ah damn. Frustro got his vote for Trever in. That might seal his innocence going into next round....

Should I vote for Frustro and hope WT does the same? I risk losing all my credibility if Trever ends up getting the majority vote, especially if Kassie and #85 make surprise visits and vote for him.

October 12, 2012
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Jo Nathan

WT definitely suspected Frustro and was giving Trever the benefit of the doubt earlier. Fingers crossed that he holds onto those beliefs.

October 12, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand so much for that. God speed Trev. (fedup)

October 12, 2012
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Jo Nathan

You might want to hold out as long as you can for voting against Frustro, and see if WT votes for him first. If not, swing away. If we can lynch Frustro, we should kill MM9 just in case FAW wakes up tonight and decides to arrest one of us.

October 12, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Aaah crap.

If we wanna take a huge risk, we can do this:

The surviving Mafia all vote for Frustro. We then have tied votes, 3 for me, 3 for Frustro. No death occurs.

We then kill Majora during the night.

If the inactive players remain inactive for the next day, the living Mafia and active Mafia players outnumber the active living townies (it will be us against WT and Frustro). We can outvote them in the lynch. Game over.

If you guys want to take that risk, shoot for it. It's entirely up to you. My life is the one on the line anyway, so don't feel bad if you decide against it. Do what you think is best. In any case, I'll cast a vote on Frustro now.

October 12, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Ugh... I'm not happy about what I did. I just think it's too likely #85 or Kassie would show up and ruin things. They could be just lurking for all we know.

October 12, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Fair enough. As I said, that move would have been very risky. You have a better chance of riding things out and placing suspicion on the inactive players anyway.

Godspeed, my friends, and good luck.

October 12, 2012
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Trever Leingod

tie votes, kill marjora, inactive for the win. lets do it huh?

October 12, 2012
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CtR Black

Are you guys to make a kill tonight, or lay low to cast suspicion on the inactives? Just curious before I meet the noose.

October 12, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Let me look at this for a minute...

The current Mafia/Town ratio is 3:5.

Trev is basically dead so it will be 2:5 tonight.

If we don't use our Mafia kill it will still be 2:5 for the next day.

We get them to lynch an inactive player, that brings it to 2:4.

We would have to go another night with no Mafia kill because the ratio isn't low enough for it to give us victory yet, so it'll still be 2:4.

We get them to lynch one more inactive player, that brings it to 2:3. Then we could win with the Mafia kill.

That seems like an awful long time during which unexpected things may come up, such as inactive players becoming active again, or them having so much more time to think things through and maybe start suspecting me and CtR again.

On the other hand, Frustro seems to be the most suspicious one now, after Trever. And his last comment looks like he's giving up. He has been active, so if we take out Majora tonight I can only imagine Frustro will be next to go.

What do you think?

October 12, 2012
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Jo Nathan

That is actually pretty sound reasoning - kill Majora and let Frustro take the blame. If he gets lynched, you make another night kill and the game is won.

Anyway, best of luck, guys.

October 12, 2012
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Trever Leingod

And so there were two.

Jo Nathan, as Godfather you have the lone say in killing from this point forward unless you die.

CtR, though there is no real need to investigate anymore, who shall you investigate this night?

October 12, 2012
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`Roxas`

yeah we can make it seem as if the mafia is inactive. of course i donno if marjora will fall for that.

marjoras set on one of the active players being mafia.

you're not suspicious

lets kill off white thunder

ratio 2-4

me or frusto gets lynched next round. so it'll either be 2-3 or 1-4.

if they kill me instead of frusto, let frusto and marjora live and maybe marjora will go after frusto or an inactive player.



i donno after that. best case scenario is they lynch frusto instead of me. but i doubt marjora will think both mafia are inactive

October 12, 2012
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CtR Black

I will investigate yeano

October 12, 2012
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CtR Black

Your call is very important to us. Please select an option that has been provided.

October 12, 2012
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`Roxas`

Oh CtR Black!

October 12, 2012
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Yeano

me or frusto gets lynched next round. so it'll either be 2-3 or 1-4.

if they kill me instead of frusto, let frusto and marjora live and maybe marjora will go after frusto or an inactive player.

Actually, yeah if they kill me, you were already found to be innocent. so it'll be 1-4 at this point. if you dont kill anyone next round, they'll assume the mafia members inactive.

October 12, 2012
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CtR Black

Holy shit, Roxas, you definitely didn't disappoint with your telling of Trever's lynching. I'm glad it wasn't me.

I have some ideas but I gotta get to my computer. Typing it all out on my phone will be grueling. Probably be in an hour or so.

October 13, 2012
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Jo Nathan

So I delivered well?

October 13, 2012
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`Roxas`

Ok....

Zanic and Trever are gone and neither of them were the Godfather. If you die next, they know there's only the Godfather left and my chances of escaping suspicion may start to dwindle.

Frustro maybe will still seem like Mafia to them, but then again their opinions seem fickle. One minute they're giving Trever the benefit of the doubt, the next minute they're voting for him.

I don't want this to drag on any longer and I plan on going for the kill early in Day 6.

Possible future quote from myself:
After how things went down between Trever and Frustro, I have to say I'm back on the fence with Frustro. He is surrounded by some suspicious circumstances, but would he really help push Trever's lynching along when things are getting tight for the Mafia? Maybe, maybe not.

We got rid of two Mafia and the Godfather is still alive. The more I think about it, the more sure I am that #85 has to be the Godfather. He's been suspicious all along, it looks like he tried to get the ball rolling against Majora with his vote in Day 4 and he's been laying low ever since, he claimed Townie on Day 1 so that if he was investigated it would look like everything checks out.

I'll have to think some more, but I am really leaning toward voting for him.


They are almost certainly expecting Majora to die tonight. Killing WT may cause a bit of confusion for them, which would be nice. I kinda want to go back and review their posts though. Majora does not seem like he has any intent to go after you (or myself, obviously), but if we let him live, he might think that you're Mafia and deliberately let him live for that reason. But I realize that's a stretch and I might be over-thinking things.

If they do get you next, I will certainly let a night go by when I don't use the Mafia kill.

October 13, 2012
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Jo Nathan

So I delivered well?


I was 100% sold at "Intestines flew across the room, narrowly missing Jo Nathan's face." {:P}

October 13, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Then I've done my job.

October 13, 2012
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`Roxas`

marjoras been hinting on and off at going at me. thats why i dont want to kill

October 13, 2012
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CtR Black

That's all the reason I need.

Yeah, let's kill White Thunder. Hopefully Majora will lean on me a bit more with him gone and I can fulfill my plot.

Heh, I've been wanting to plot since my first game...

October 13, 2012
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Jo Nathan



A portrait of me as a plotting villain, courtesy of my wife.

October 13, 2012
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Jo Nathan

lol nice. you're a sly one arent you ;p

October 13, 2012
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CtR Black

So I believe I count one vote for White Thunder, is that correct?

October 13, 2012
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`Roxas`

I vote for White Thunder

October 13, 2012
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Jo Nathan

i, too

October 13, 2012
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CtR Black

*deep breath*

Well, my line's been cast. Let's hope I get a couple bites....

October 14, 2012
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Jo Nathan

A couple thoughts:

- I'm thinking the chances of Frustro voting for #85 are good because 1) he already suspected him, and 2) it would take the heat off of himself
- I'm hoping Majora thinks White Thunder died because White Thunder suspected #85 and Majora didn't. If he makes that connection on his own without one of us pointing it out, he might just flip flop his position toward #85.

But I am really banking on Frustro voting for #85 because he, me and you will make three votes for him. Even if WT disagrees and if #85 shows up, we have them outvoted. If it comes to that, I just pray Kassie doesn't come along and make a tie.

October 14, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Ok, if this is going to devolve into a game of "catch who logs in at night" it kinda ruins the spirit of the game..... {:?}

October 14, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Roxas, if I refrain from posting in other forums, is there any way for someone to see if I log in? I suppose there is nothing I could do if that person is a site admin though...

October 14, 2012
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Jo Nathan

There is no way to prove or disprove the claim. As far as seeing, I am the only staff member that is (supposed to be) active in the [living] game right now.

Should there be a confirmation given out, then I will investigate the leak and that person will be punished accordingly.

October 14, 2012
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`Roxas`

Thanks for the clarification. And sorry, I'm not trying to be a dick about it. I just think after everything that's gone down in this game, if that's the thing that gets me I'd be disappointed.

October 14, 2012
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Jo Nathan

I understand entirely.

October 14, 2012
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`Roxas`

Ok....

CtR, I am contemplating casting the first vote for you because I see the others voting for you anyway. I think this will guarantee our victory because there is no way in hell anyone would expect the Mafia noob to do something so bold as to vote off all of his teammates.

I would feel like a douche to just do that without telling you first. I won't do it if you want to try nailing Frustro or hell maybe Frustro will even vote for 85.

What do you think?

October 14, 2012
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Jo Nathan

i think if you were the first one to vote for me, that would be an excellent idea

October 14, 2012
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CtR Black

I had been agonizing over this and I ended up voting for #85. That might come back to bite me in the ass but I figure if there's a chance Frustro will vote for him we'll be in good shape.

If that doesn't look like it'll work I'll just say they should vote for you as damage control.

October 14, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Oh sick! I am shocked they both voted for #85...

Son of a bitch, it is going to be agonizing waiting for the round to end, and then waiting 24 hours for the night round to end and pray FAW doesn't come back and arrest you.

Needless to say, I am going to spend the next few days shitting myself.

October 15, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Ok our FBI Agent has returned. God speed, CtR.

October 16, 2012
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Jo Nathan

I be voting for Majora, that's my final answer. I pray I don't get arrested.

And now I'll be gone for the rest of the night y'all. People be checkin to see who's online and whatnot.

October 16, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Who shall be your target tonight?

October 16, 2012
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`Roxas`

Majora will be killed. Should FAW get her action in, the Night will end then. No ifs, ands or buts about it.

October 16, 2012
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`Roxas`

yup lets kill marjarah

October 16, 2012
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CtR Black

Aw shit! Looks like it's all up to me.

I swear I gotta stop making hasty decisions. This would have been the time to not use the night kill. Gawd....

Now I'm talking to myself. I must be losing my mind. I guess I'm not good at handling the pressure. {:?}

October 16, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Ok, not talking to myself:

Roxas, if the cop had investigated the FBI Agent, would the result have been "innocent" or would it have been "neutral"?

October 16, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Ah, actually never mind. I'd just be digging myself a bigger hole with that idea....

Should..... have.... not killed anyone..... Ah hindsight's a bitch. {:P}

October 16, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Ah hindsight's a bitch.

MM9 is saying the same thing.

October 16, 2012
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`Roxas`

Oh dear. Does he suspect me now?

October 16, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Ha, things are going to get very interesting now. God I'm so looking forward to this being over, win or lose. This has been so agonizing I'm surprised I'm not sweating blood.

If I have to die, I'm not sure I'm looking forward to how you intend to portray my death. But if I can make a last request... no matter how grisly it is, I'd like to go with no begging or screaming. {:P}

October 16, 2012
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Jo Nathan

So just as #85 did?

October 16, 2012
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`Roxas`

Yeah. I mean, if you decide to go all out and make me beg for mercy, make loud chokes on my own blood and then void my bowels, I won't hold it against you. It's your game. {:P}

I was dreading that one erroneous remark from Trever since the minute he posted it and was always afraid someone would point it out. And Frustro found it. He's so friggen good, at this point I'll be happy if either of us win. That we actually got to an absolute no-grey-area win or lose point in the game means that it turned out to be one hell of a good game, if you ask me. You made a good call by not resetting it.

So yeah. No matter what the outcome, I'll walk away from this game satisfied. :D

October 16, 2012
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Jo Nathan

I know I'm supposed to be unbiased, but I actually want you to win.

October 16, 2012
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`Roxas`

Thanks! That actually means a whole lot coming from you.

Is it because the thought of a noob rising up and kicking ass is awesome? Because that's what I thought - I felt like Rocky Balboa. Alas, I made a couple hasty decisions and might have ruined my chance, but I'll look forward to being Mafia again someday. This was a great learning experience, and I definitely think I'm better at Mafia than at townie.

Plus my wife finds it hysterical that I wound up the Godfather on account of my incredibly-Italian heritage... {:P}

October 16, 2012
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Jo Nathan

I'm not the last Mafia, but honestly I was sure after seeing FAW back in the game that CtR was going to be arrested. I would have asked FAW to arrest him if I thought otherwise, and I will kick myself for the next year over this.


100% not a lie. I thought I'd try going after #85 to end the game quicker instead of securing my innocence by voting for CtR, but I almost said "arrest CtR" as a contingency plan. But I wussed out and thought it would make me look too eager to prove my innocence. *facepalm*

October 16, 2012
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Jo Nathan

Er, if you remove the "I'm not the last Mafia", THEN it's 100% not a lie.

October 16, 2012
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Jo Nathan

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