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game 13 dead thread

Posted January 7, 2013 by White Thunder

Either you are dead, or you are LLight. Discuss the game here.

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Welcome to the reaper's jungle lair.

January 8, 2013
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LLight

Wow, kinda got screwed over Yoshi... Maybe I'll give you a pity point.

Also, Llight, there's a dead thread for a reason {:P}

January 11, 2013
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White Thunder

Damn -- just because I was a bit concerned about the welfare of our Doctor (supposedly), Hezy HAD to jump that gun. Next game I play, I'm turning a gun on his ass, I swear...

January 11, 2013
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Black Yoshi

Oh, and to change colors, use these tags:
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    where TEXT is whatever text you're changing the color of.

    • January 11, 2013
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    Black Yoshi

    Gracias.

    January 11, 2013
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    White Thunder

    Well, that was suspected. I was a Townie <.<

    January 11, 2013
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    Castrael

    @Thunder: De nada. There are tags for more colors than those two, if you'd like those, too.

    @Cas: Well, what are you going to do? Anything can happen in a game of Mafia, and to be honest, I'm glad I died this early on, what with my J-Term class starting up and taking up more of my time than I thought it would.

    To be honest, I'm mighty suspicious of Hezy right now -- so Mafia-like to thrown in a vote at the last minute without giving me a chance to react to it.

    January 12, 2013
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    Black Yoshi

    Well, I'd prob check in every so often on the game to get better at it. But, I do have personal stuff to take care of as well.

    Also, im possibly leaning towards Hesy and Majora this time around

    January 12, 2013
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    Castrael

    Also, Llight, there's a dead thread for a reason

    Well then don't tempt me to respond because I probably will. I was testing something because I think there was a modification to the post script. Now to insert this idea into your head that it should be done in the sandbox.

    So Helius, who do you think is mafia?

    January 12, 2013
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    LLight

    Since Helius is unavailable to respond, I shall answer in his place. I'm betting Hezekiah is Mafia -- no ordinary Townie would vote on the first day, especially for someone as innocuous as myself. I'd have to read the main threads to pick up on anything that would lead me toward the rest of the Mafia.

    January 13, 2013
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    Black Yoshi

    I'm placing my bets on White Lancer on this one. He said he would vote for someone, but not Feral. Idk, but it's a tricky guess.

    Also, Hezy doesn't like he would be Mafia. I mean, he could very well be acting like a Townie to other townies, but eh. that's my gut feeling for that one as well.

    Feral just seems odd.

    Jo Nathan is also odd. Cuz he was open to suggestions to lynching someone else.

    those are my thoughts.

    January 14, 2013
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    Castrael

    *Jo Nathan also seems old

    *I don't think Hezy could be Mafia. I mean...

    damn edits.

    January 14, 2013
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    Castrael

    I've never seen a Townie jump the gun and vote for someone in the first round. Even in games past where someone has signed up and then not done a damned thing, that person always survived at least three rounds, if not more. Hezekiah remains at the top of my list until proven innocent.

    January 14, 2013
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    Black Yoshi

    Or, Hezy could be the Double Voter. I don't think he could be the Mafia.

    Majora seems like he could either be a) one of the mafioso or b) the Governor.

    January 14, 2013
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    Castrael

    I'll answer this because I have some free time from recovering and all...

    Jo Nathan before the restart was Mafia thus why he suspected me on the first round when I was being exposed to god only knows from one of my clients.

    Mafia:

    FAW
    Hezekiah
    Majora

    and

    Me

    So there you have it...

    We had talked about sacrificing one of our own just to confuse the hell out of everyone, but as it turns out... I had to die because I'm trying very hard to get over the illness that I've been exposed too.

    January 15, 2013
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    Helius

    I think Helius is very suspicious right now. I don't trust him. He's probably mafia.

    January 15, 2013
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    LLight

    FAW was defiantly a name I had in mind for Mafia.

    I am confused with Hezy and Majora. They could very well be Mafia.

    Well, Helius, you are now dead, so welcome! xD

    January 15, 2013
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    Castrael

    Ha -- I KNEW IT!! No Townie would ever vote that late in the round, and in the first round no less. Now to figure out which specific role Hezy is...

    January 15, 2013
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    Black Yoshi

    I'd say either a) Double Voter! or b) Vigilante

    I'm just guessing. :P

    January 15, 2013
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    Castrael

    What I don't get is, why is my role hidden? o.o

    I'll betcha anything! the one's who have the Super Roles (or whatever you wanna call them are): Hezy, Majora, FAW, Chief, Feral, CTR Black and that's all I can think of.

    (shifty)

    January 15, 2013
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    Castrael

    oh and white lancer.

    January 15, 2013
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    Castrael

    {>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}{>:(}

    {boo}

    January 15, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    I had a feeling that was coming when I was open to being targeted. Tell me, was it the Vig that did me in?

    January 15, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    @Cas: Because, technically, the Janitor hid your body that night, even though Thunder actually had him/her burn you beyond almost any hope of recognition.

    @Roxas: No idea. I'm still fuming over Hezy's decision to vote me off, TBH. That was the most callous thing I've ever seen someone do on the first day. I could understand if it was Day 3 or 4 and the town decided it was time to kill someone, but on the FIRST DAY?!

    January 15, 2013
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    Black Yoshi

    I'd even understand if it was the second day.
    I regret putting my vote on Trever now.

    January 15, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    I had a feeling that was coming when I was open to being targeted. Tell me, was it the Vig that did me in?

    Yezhur.

    January 15, 2013
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    White Thunder

    <.< Why am I always getting lynched? v.v

    January 16, 2013
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    Castrael

    Effin a. why didn't I agree before?

    This has to be right. Okay, im going with: Hezy, Majora, FAW, and CTR Black.

    January 16, 2013
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    Castrael

    Helius already told us who they are:

    Himself
    FAW
    Majora
    Hezekiah

    January 16, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    Oops, forgot about Helius. :P

    January 16, 2013
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    Castrael

    IT'S A TRAP!

    January 18, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    I think FAW will be the one to take down the town. And I suddenly have an eerie feeling that she is the Janitor.

    January 18, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    I think theres something fishy about her and Nathan this round. They seem to listen to each other. But nathan already claimed his role. Hezy or Majora wont role claim either. Im getting tired of being dead to be honest v.v

    January 18, 2013
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    Castrael

    Hezy, Majora and FAW all said they were Townies (which is complete bullshit!)

    January 18, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    I agree with that. Told you they would lie. :P theyre the mafia, i swear and whats your opinion on ctr black?

    January 18, 2013
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    Castrael

    And I suddenly have an eerie feeling that she is the Janitor.

    {:P}

    Trev, I feel bad for you. Always suspicious no matter what you do.

    January 18, 2013
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    White Thunder

    I take that as I'm correct, Thunder?

    CtR is one of the hardest people for me to read in this game. The Governor and DV are the only roles to not reveal themselves, so that leaves chief and CtR to fill in those vacancies (assuming JN is being truthful about being the Vig).

    FAW, MM9, Hezy - Mafia (all claim townie)
    Feral - Doctor
    JN - Vig
    CtR - DV (claim townie)
    chief - Governor (claim townie)
    lancer - townie

    January 18, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    Helius is too quiet. He must be mafia. This is unlike him and all that jazz.

    January 19, 2013
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    LLight

    Lol @ LLight.

    I would love to eventually play a game. Jeez. Im going after the Mafia if its the last thing I do.

    January 19, 2013
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    Castrael

    Plot Twist: The next six games, Cas IS Mafia. {:3}

    January 19, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    Trev, I feel bad for you. Always suspicious no matter what you do.

    I'm suspicious just for breathing >_>

    FAW, MM9, Hezy - Mafia

    If these guys are all Mafia, they were clever all defending me at some point. Although technically I was sort of sold on FAW based on gut feeling (she just has that odd way of coming off too casual), but that's never good enough for me without true evidence.

    Fun fact though: in all the games I've played, the only time I was involved in killing an innocent was the one game I was actually Mafia {:D} So in that sense, I'm a real good townie

    January 19, 2013
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    Trever Leingod

    Day 14. They still do not suspect me. Helius will be dead even in the afterlife.

    January 19, 2013
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    LLight

    May his rotting corpse of a soul forever be in pieces in the after-afterlife...

    January 19, 2013
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    Helius

    Hi gang. We're almost positive chief was the DV, based on his not voting for me last round. We think CtR is the Governor, and everyone else is telling the truth about their roles.

    January 20, 2013
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    hezekiah

    Best part is, Feral seems to be about to cost the town the game, since he's above suspicion.

    Also, that "strategy" of his is exactly why I made the Doctor unable to hump the same person when I hosted a game.

    January 20, 2013
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    hezekiah

    DV chiefsonny here.

    Will some body IM Feral and tell him to get his head in the game. If everyone in this game (including those still alive) does not know by now that MM9 is Mafia, they are not paying attention.

    We're almost positive chief was the DV, based on his not voting for me last round


    You're right. My plan was to hope to make it through last night and use it on MM9

    January 20, 2013
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    chiefsonny
     

    God, I hope JN can see through Feral's dumb rant's and takes out MM9 in the night round.

    January 20, 2013
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    chiefsonny
     

    Chief, I'm surprised you would've gone after Majora over me, given your wishing you could cast a useful vote for me last round.

    January 20, 2013
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    hezekiah

    Yeah, nobody townsided has been clever this game. {>:(}

    January 20, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    Honestly though, I've always supported the town being more proactive. I would've cast a vote the first round regardless. And I was really close to waiting until the last minute and getting Feral killed. Really all that gave me pause was the prospect of the Governor stopping kills.

    January 20, 2013
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    hezekiah

    Feral's gone crazy, thinking that Jo's vote for CtR is making lancer be lynched.

    By my math, it'll be on Feral for the town to have a chance to continue the game beyond Night 4; the [p:73004|night action priority] states that the mafia's kill is resolved first, which would take the ratio to 2:2, which I think would immediately end the game before the Vigilante's target is offed.

    January 20, 2013
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    hezekiah

    That's how I hosted it, but the town won that game pretty handily.

    January 20, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    Also, that "strategy" of his is exactly why I made the Doctor unable to hump the same person when I hosted a game.

    He actually protected JN last night.

    By my math, it'll be on Feral for the town to have a chance to continue the game beyond Night 4; the [night action priority] states that the mafia's kill is resolved first, which would take the ratio to 2:2, which I think would immediately end the game before the Vigilante's target is offed.

    I was thinking not- as in a game can only end after a whole night is concluded. Of course if they take out JN any kill he makes would be null.

    January 20, 2013
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    White Thunder

    So the round's not over? That must mean that white lancer is the Double-Voter...

    Feral - Doctor
    Jo - Vigilante
    CtR - Townie
    lancer - Double-Voter

    Anyway, sounds like Roxas agrees with me. But I guess it's your game to run however you want. But remember, we did have a mafia member drop out of the game.

    January 20, 2013
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    hezekiah

    DV chiefsonny here.


    I was the Double Voter.

    January 20, 2013
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    chiefsonny
     

    Derp.

    January 20, 2013
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    hezekiah

    Wait, I think Thunder might be right about it and I just have poor memory. :|

    January 20, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    Either way, this round's over... Feral (too special to use the Vote tool), CtR and Majora have votes in for lancer.

    January 20, 2013
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    hezekiah

    I aint Mafia. :P

    Somebody just decided to kill me off. Also, why is no one ever going after FAW? Am I the only girl being targeted <<?

    Haha, just kidding, of course.

    I always have my eyes on FAW. She's Mafia. Has to be.

    January 20, 2013
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    Castrael

    Yes, she is, Cas.

    January 20, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    So now CtR has fessed up to being the Governor. He says he halted lynchings, but that should only apply if it was done before 10:36, when the third vote was cast. I'm assuming it was.

    January 20, 2013
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    hezekiah

    Way to go CtR (hug)

    Glad at least one townie is still using his head.

    January 20, 2013
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    chiefsonny
     

    Definitely did not see that coming.

    January 20, 2013
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    Black Yoshi

    Wow...

    Well, so long as FAW and MM9 don't kill JN, the town can still win!

    January 20, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    Well, so long as FAW and MM9 don't kill JN, the town can still win!


    Just hope Feral has enough sense to protect JN

    January 20, 2013
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    chiefsonny
     

    If I were still alive, I'd be lobbying for us to target CtR. We'll see what happens.

    January 20, 2013
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    hezekiah

    If I were still alive, I'd be lobbying for us to target CtR. We'll see what happens.


    Why CtR and not JN?

    With JN they have the ability for a night kill and a day lynch.

    January 20, 2013
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    chiefsonny
     

    To set lancer up to be killed the next day.

    January 21, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    Twofold:

    1) I think Feral will either protect himself or Jo.
    2) Jo is most likely to kill lancer tonight, based on how he acted during the day round.

    However, this seems awkward for the mafia, given that they'll be out of people to hide behind. Their best bet is hoping that Jo kills lancer, and Feral protects Feral or Jo. That, coupled with a kill of CtR, would end the game.

    January 21, 2013
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    hezekiah

    If only...

    January 21, 2013
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    Helius

    Next game im going after FAW. Revenge's a bitch gurl xD Funny thing is: i know her too. Oh well

    Anyway, enough of my rant, Nathan is Mafia too right?

    January 21, 2013
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    Castrael

    After Helius died, he posted the list of mafia. The two left alive are FAW and Majora.

    January 21, 2013
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    hezekiah

    Welcome JN, as you will see by reading this post the Mafia's decision to kill you and Feral's decision to not protect you could possibly save the town. We shall see.

    January 21, 2013
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    White Thunder

    This should be interesting. Jo, who'd you choose to kill last night?

    I feel pretty good about this, given that lancer's had the most suspicions against him of the remaining townie claims. However, CtR may have decided that lancer is the innocent, which would cause major problems.

    Here's a weird hypothetical: A vote is cast for lancer, Majora and FAW jump on it, CtR stops lynch, then Feral actually makes use of his Doctor ability to save someone. That would be an awful way for the mafia to lose.

    January 21, 2013
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    hezekiah

    Boy that's an ugly post effect.

    January 21, 2013
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    hezekiah

    GO, LANCER, GO!

    January 21, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    Eh... I totally took a shot last night.... don't people read the night action priorities these days?

    January 21, 2013
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    Jo Nathan

    Jo Nathan before the restart was Mafia thus why he suspected me on the first round when I was being exposed to god only knows from one of my clients.


    Actually I just thought your two posts were suspicious. Some subtle quirks about them reminded me of the posts my teammates made when I was Mafia. I was going to kill you on Night 2 if you hadn't quit, so you quitting actually helped the Mafia out because I killed Roxas instead. {:P}

    I TOTALLY knew Majora was Mafia and the Vigilante thread will prove this. But I tried targeting lancer because I didn't trust my gut and didn't want to screw the town over with what I thought was just another one of my crazy ideas.

    I'm so glad I'm not alive for the last round.

    January 21, 2013
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    Jo Nathan

    What townies are left then?

    January 21, 2013
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    Castrael

    lancer, Feral and CtR.

    lancer and Majora are having quite a boxing match right now...

    January 21, 2013
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    Jo Nathan

    lancer and Majora are having quite a boxing match right now...

    Yeah, and FINALLY a town-sided person seems to be using some sort of brilliance with Feral going after FAW. I expect lancer to go after her too, FAW may go after lancer, leaving CtR as the deciding vote.

    January 21, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    See this is what happens when people don't read post.

    Feral just mad a post asking who was the Gov. and blaming that person for being responsible for him killing JN.

    If he put as much effort into reading what other players say as much as what he has to say, he would have read CtR's post in the last day round.

    All he did with those last two post he just made in the day round was make himself look , well I won't go there.

    Feral, wake up, there's more to the game then just you!!

    January 21, 2013
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    chiefsonny
     

    Yeah, and FINALLY a town-sided person seems to be using some sort of brilliance with Feral going after FAW


    That's the only thing he did right in that post. If he had read the post he would have know CtR was the Gov.

    January 21, 2013
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    chiefsonny
     

    I agree entirely, and honestly I'm surprised the town still has a chance to win this game.

    CtR has already said he knows almost certainly that FAW is one of the last two Mafia, so I suspect him to vote that way. FAW should show up, may very well vote for lancer.

    Now this is where it could get interesting. Lancer could just say fuck everything, this is going nowhere and vote for himself, effectively giving the Mafia a win. He could also, as I've already said, vote for FAW and narrow it down to MM9 taking out CtR. I don't see him going after Feral because more than likely, Feral will protect himself. This may leave some doubt in Feral's mind of lancer's innocence, going for a kill in Day 6 to end the game.

    January 21, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    lancer would never vote for himself.

    He's not that type of player.

    January 21, 2013
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    Yeano

    Some body want to explain to me what just happened?

    MM9 just voted for FAW.

    What did I miss?

    January 21, 2013
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    chiefsonny
     

    About effing time they go after FAW!

    (hehe)

    January 21, 2013
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    Castrael

    What kinda sucks is that if Feral had saved me last night, even though I'd have killed lancer, we'd still be up by one and there would be no question as to who the remaining Mafia are (if I were alive I would be trying to point out to Feral that CtR basically proved his role).

    The town still has a chance, if lancer can be convincing enough in the next round.

    Or if Feral successfully uses his power during this night round and next, we can even withstand one more mis-lynch. But that would be one hell of a stretch.

    January 21, 2013
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    Jo Nathan

    ALSO.... the Mafia team was identical after the game restart except I got swapped out for hez. Am I just not cool enough to be Mafia now? {duck}

    January 21, 2013
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    Jo Nathan

    Well, I certainly didn't see that coming.

    Book it: MM9 will go after CtR to set up lancer for the next round.

    January 21, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    ALSO.... the Mafia team was identical after the game restart except I got swapped out for hez. Am I just not cool enough to be Mafia now?

    Totally random bro {:P}

    Also welcome to FAW. Kinda sucks that you were non-suspicious the whole game then got killed by process of elimination.

    January 21, 2013
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    White Thunder

    That's what always happens when I'm in the Mafia. Which I'm really tired of. I'm a horrible Mafia member.

    January 21, 2013
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    Female Alpha Wolf

    If it's any consolation, I would never have had you on my radar. :)

    January 21, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    Majora needs to win two 50/50 shots: first, choosing the opposite target of Feral (between Feral and CtR). Then, having the living one of Feral and CtR choose to kill lancer over Majora. So, basic odds:

    50% Majora makes a kill tonight
    -50% lancer is lynched, mafia wins
    -50% Majora is lynched, town wins

    50% Majora is denied a kill tonight
    -50% Majora is lynched, town wins
    -50% lancer is lynched
    --50% Majora makes a kill Night 6
    --50% Majora is denied a kill Night 6, lynched Day 7

    So, total percentage for a mafia win is 25% + 12.5% = 37.5%, or 3/8. Not knowing anything more about who Feral has protected every night, my guess is that he will be targeting himself AGAIN. I get why it's a powerful strategy, I don't get why hosts keep allowing for it.

    January 21, 2013
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    hezekiah

    Thunder, three votes for the same option need to be cast since there are only four people left, right?

    January 21, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    Hammer voting is on. 50% only.

    January 21, 2013
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    White Thunder

    When hammer voting is on, once a person receives a majority (over 50 percent) of the votes, the voting for the day round will be "hammered" and end immediately.


    It wouldn't be fair to the losing side (this day) if they fall a vote short of staying alive.

    January 22, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    Ah yes, good catch.

    January 22, 2013
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    White Thunder

    With the day round starting and no kill made, the mafia's odds drop to 25%. CtR and Feral need to pick lancer (1/2) AND Feral needs to pick wrong during the night (1/2). 1/2 * 1/2 = 1/4 -> 25%. Sounded like Feral wasn't very committed to either choice yesterday, so I'm guessing (and hoping) that he agrees with CtR's choice.

    January 22, 2013
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    hezekiah

    Ugh, this is terrible. C'mon, man!

    January 22, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    I guess lancer didn't read CtR Black's post about being Gov either.(facepalm)

    January 22, 2013
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    chiefsonny
     

    I guess lancer didn't read CtR Black's post about being Gov either


    I meant to say.

    You know I don't know what the hell I meant to say. I'm tired and this games making my hair hurt.

    I'm going to bed.

    January 22, 2013
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    chiefsonny
     

    I disagree so hard with a lot of lancer's "logic." I dunno how much of it is what he really feels, and how much is just trying to save his ass. But he definitely wasn't the only one thinking about a roleclaim. And the way he's trying to suck up to CtR right now is kinda embarrassing.

    January 22, 2013
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    hezekiah

    I definitely think MM9 has played this better. But we'll see what Feral does.

    January 22, 2013
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    White Thunder

    ... There's too many feelings being invested in this game. I'ma need people to chill out.

    It makes me feel all... funny.

    January 22, 2013
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    Female Alpha Wolf

    Heh, the only feeling I have right now is relief from not being in Feral's shoes.

    Majora is the only one who's put me in the dead thread... and he did it twice. He is going to be the first player I kill from now on, Mafia or Townie. {:P}

    January 22, 2013
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    Jo Nathan

    Heh, the only feeling I have right now is relief from not being in Feral's shoes.

    This.

    January 22, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    Okay, that is getting fucking intense. I haven't been this close to the edge of my seat since I watched Inherit the Wind in my J-Term class.

    January 22, 2013
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    Black Yoshi

    Feral noooooooooooooooo!

    January 22, 2013
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    Jo Nathan

    And now it becomes 50/50, unless CtR stopped the kill again. But he would have no good reason to.

    January 22, 2013
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    hezekiah

    <OO<OO<OO

    January 22, 2013
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    Female Alpha Wolf

    And that right there would've been a reason to prevent the lynch. Wish Majora hadn't fessed up, just left a note for Feral in the Mafia thread... Either, I want this game to FINALLY end...

    Hurry up, White Thunder!

    January 22, 2013
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    hezekiah

    Once Feral cast his vote, the round ended and I don't think anything CtR posted in his thread would count.

    All the chances I had to take out Majora and I didn't!



    January 22, 2013
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    Jo Nathan

    Honestly I'd just give the win to Majora. If he went and did all the awesomeness that he did, and then lost to a coin-flip decision, would just be a shame.

    January 22, 2013
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    Jo Nathan

    Unless he, for a reason that contradicts the main thread, stopped the kill at the start of the round.

    Overall though, (facepalm)(facepalm)(facepalm)(facepalm)(facepalm)(facepalm)(facepalm)(facepalm). Their reliance on MM9 may have cost the town the game. Brilliant playing on MM9's part, and it's a shame that CtR and Feral didn't see through it all.

    January 22, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    If he went and did all the awesomeness that he did, and then lost to a coin-flip decision, would just be a shame.

    You misspelled "justice."

    January 22, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    Holy crap... if CtR pulled what you described and got Majora to confess like that, then CtR would deserve nothing less than a throne.

    January 22, 2013
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    Jo Nathan

    Spoilers under the cut.

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    January 22, 2013
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    `Roxas`

    If everyone in this game (including those still alive) does not know by now that MM9 is Mafia, they are not paying attention.

    Frigging thank you! Oy. I actually began to have suspicions of him on Day 1, when he suggested that the Town be so aggressive during the day rounds (Yeano did the same thing when he was Mafia to devastating effect), but he didn't actually play that aggressively during the day rounds so I couldn't use that against him. Actually a lot of my suspicions against Majora were based on intangible evidence just from reading his posts, which came off as super fishy, and that was why I had such problems convincing anyone--if they couldn't see the issues with Majora's posts in the early rounds, I wasn't going to be able to convince them.

    What kinda sucks is that if Feral had saved me last night, even though I'd have killed lancer, we'd still be up by one and there would be no question as to who the remaining Mafia are (if I were alive I would be trying to point out to Feral that CtR basically proved his role).

    Exactly, that one move by Feral just handed away the game. I was really hoping he would protect you but I didn't want to say anything because I didn't want to tip the Mafia off.

    I guess lancer didn't read CtR Black's post about being Gov either.

    I have no idea what you're talking about here, chief.

    I disagree so hard with a lot of lancer's "logic." I dunno how much of it is what he really feels, and how much is just trying to save his ass. But he definitely wasn't the only one thinking about a roleclaim. And the way he's trying to suck up to CtR right now is kinda embarrassing.

    I'm interested to hear what logic you disagree with, hezy. But I was the one who brought up the roleclaim on Day 3 and the one who initiated it, which really should have been a big clue. And I wasn't really trying to suck up to CtR, though I understand how you might get that impression. It was disappointment--I really did think CtR's move was a brilliant one at first because I thought he had used it to get a good read off my reaction to getting voted off. When he didn't use it, it turned out the move was just a waste, although at least he confirmed his own innocence (leading to the 50-50 chance here).

    lancer would never vote for himself.

    He's not that type of player.

    Very, very correct. Part of me wanted to give in at certain parts, especially because I thought we were screwed in that game from fairly early on, but I just hate the idea of casting a vote for myself. However, if Feral had tied the vote and CtR had refused to budge, and Feral wasn't confident enough to guarantee he'd vote with me the next day round, I would have voted for myself just to give us the 50-50 chance in the night round.

    January 22, 2013
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    white lancer

    Wow, interesting back and forth here makes the next today and tomorrow easy. Trev dies tonight as a sacrificial lamb. If he is guilty, Majora is guilty. If he is innosent, Hezekiah and probably Lancer are guilty.

    I pretty much thought we had lost the game once Feral said this, so I was playing with a lot of desperation at the end there. Hoping to make Feral realize how badly he would have screwed up if he chose wrong between me and Majora, but I knew he was the sort of player that really clings to his gut feelings even when there's no real reason to believe them.

    MM9 is going after CtR.

    That's what I would do; Feral in the past has shown a tendency to go for the survival point at the expense of the Town, so I wouldn't be surprised if he did that here. That's why I told him to do the coin-flip; I figured Majora would probably anticipate that.

    And the reason I didn't go against FAW at the beginning of that second to last round was because I knew the game was going to come down to choosing between me and Majora eventually, and mostly I just wanted it over with. I figured FAW had played a good game--actually better at appearing non-suspicious than Majora--and she deserved the survival point if the Mafia were going to win. And really, I was tired of the back-and-forth with MM9; seriously, I don't know why anyone believed I would willingly do that for several rounds if I were Mafia.

    January 22, 2013
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    white lancer

    I guess lancer didn't read CtR Black's post about being Gov either.

    I have no idea what you're talking about here, chief.


    Sorry about that post. I was very tired, fighting a cold or the start of the flu and I had, had one to many glasses of wine. So I actually forgot what I wanted to say.(ashamed)

    January 22, 2013
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    chiefsonny
     

    Exactly, that one move by Feral just handed away the game


    Agree 100%

    Feral in the past has shown a tendency to go for the survival point at the expense of the Town, so I wouldn't be surprised if he did that here.


    And that's what is making this game less enjoyable. There's no team concept with some players anymore.

    It's that "be alive at the end" regardless of what side wins. Feral's not the only one, there are a couple others.

    And I find it hard to believe anyone would settle for the one point for themselves, when they could help their team get 2 points by winning.

    January 22, 2013
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    chiefsonny
     

    Well chief, if it's any consolation, I for one am totally a team player. That's why I'm always so hard on myself when I let my team down.

    Hehe... I said hard on. (hehe)

    January 22, 2013
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    Jo Nathan

    And I find it hard to believe anyone would settle for the one point for themselves, when they could help their team get 2 points by winning.

    He didn't do it this time, though! CtR was saved for a Town victory--an ugly victory, but a victory nonetheless.

    January 22, 2013
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    white lancer

    He didn't do it this time, though!

    He flipped a coin.

    {duck}

    January 22, 2013
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    White Thunder

    Huzzah for random decision making (and someone FINALLY listening to me in this game)! I'll be interested to hear if he was leaning towards saving himself or not.

    I'm very interested to read the Mafia thread this game, even though I'm pretty sure I figured out why they did everything they did during the game.

    January 22, 2013
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    white lancer

    Well chief, if it's any consolation, I for one am totally a team player


    I know. I won't forget that you took one for the team in the Xmas Mafia game.(Snowman)

    January 22, 2013
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    chiefsonny
     

    *table flip* I'm so done with this game. (facepalm)

    January 22, 2013
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    Female Alpha Wolf

    *table flip* I'm so done with this game.

    That's exactly how I felt when CtR cast that vote for me last round, so I feel ya.

    I think the entire Mafia team (sans Helius, who didn't really play) deserves good playing points for their efforts this time around. They really were the better team--what it came down to, more than the coin flip at the end, was the fact that the first 4 people killed in this game were all vanilla Townies, leaving them almost nowhere to hide especially since all of the special roles were testable. That was a combination of bad luck and some maybe questionable kill choices (I guess you must have thought Cas was a special role? I have absolutely no clue why you killed Xhin, though). Feral getting lucky at the end was the icing on the cake but you guys probably wouldn't have even been in that situation if you had better luck with your first couple of kills.

    January 22, 2013
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    white lancer

    I dunno. All the kills weren't my idea {:P} I just went with it.

    January 22, 2013
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    Female Alpha Wolf

    Haha, well, the Xhin kill was the only truly perplexing move you guys made--I understand pretty much everything else you did.

    Right now I'm just waiting on Feral to cast the final vote so we can finally see behind the scenes.

    And all things considered, as frustrated as I was with CtR last round, I do think he played the Governor role about as well as can be expected (except without the follow-through on the info he gained when I thought I was dead). The Mafia couldn't risk offing him because they needed him as a potential target, the Town wasn't ever going to be able to vote him out because he would stop the killing, and there were always other people the Vigilante would rather go after. He basically ensured that he would make it to the endgame as a second confirmed innocent; the only place he went wrong was misreading the situation.

    January 22, 2013
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    white lancer

    don't listen to him Feral I'm the governor!

    Bahahaha, well, he may have gotten unlucky here despite being the better player, but at least Majora's a good sport about it.

    January 22, 2013
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    white lancer

    Right now I'm just waiting on Feral to cast the final vote so we can finally see behind the scenes.


    Wouldn't it be something if he voted for CtR?

    January 22, 2013
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    chiefsonny
     

    Just make it fucking end. Town won, not due to good playing, but by sheer luck.

    Main "bullshilt logic" of yours, lancer? Your insistence that you were the only one who thought of a roleclaim, and that being the OMG F1RST to mention it makes you innocent. I was thinking about the looming roleclaim the previous night, but wasn't around in the day round prior to your initial suggestion.

    January 22, 2013
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    hezekiah

    Also, I had a pretty shitty day at work so I may be somewhat more hostile than normal tonight. Just so you know.

    January 22, 2013
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    hezekiah

    I know it may be a sin, but after that marvelous playing I was kinda rooting for the Mafia.

    January 22, 2013
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    Jo Nathan

    Well the game is now over, unless CtR decided to stop all lynches more than an hour ago.

    January 23, 2013
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    hezekiah

    As I said, hezy:

    But I was the one who brought up the roleclaim on Day 3 and the one who initiated it, which really should have been a big clue.

    Being the one who initiated it is key in this case; I suggested it and then was the first to claim, prompting others to follow suit. More importantly than that is the contrast with Majora's response, which was essentially "I guess I wouldn't have a problem with it." Obviously not an airtight case or anything like that, but it was never intended to be; it was more evidence that Feral and CtR wound up overlooking (and more evidence that helped me catch on to MM9 in the first place).

    January 23, 2013
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    white lancer

    I'd like to play a game where roleclaiming isn't allowed. I think that'd be interesting.

    January 23, 2013
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    Female Alpha Wolf

    Looks like MM9 would rather kill himself then let Feral Kill him{:P}

    January 23, 2013
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    chiefsonny
     

    I'd like to play a game where roleclaiming isn't allowed. I think that'd be interesting.

    The tricky thing about that is deciding where to draw the line. People can heavily imply they're a special role without saying it outright and accomplish basically the same thing. But I do think it could be interesting and it would make roles like the Cop less broken--they might know that someone is guilty, but they wouldn't be able to just say 'I'm the Cop and so-and-so is Mafia.'

    January 23, 2013
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    white lancer

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