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game 13 mafia thread

Posted January 7, 2013 by White Thunder

You are the Mafia! Kill all the townies!

Helius is Godfather, FAW is Janitor, MM9 and hezekiah are mafiosos.

FAW, I swear it's all random haha.

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January 7, 2013
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hezekiah

Helius usurped me!

January 8, 2013
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MajorasMask9

Which is funny because my title is actually: Mafia... I'm no Godfather!

January 8, 2013
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Helius

Most Eligible Victims aka Townies

chiefsonny
Feral
Castrael
Jo Nathan
Black Yoshi
Xhin
`Roxas`
CtR Black
white lancer
Trever Leingod

Helius' Hit List

Night 1: Castrael / Feral (It'll throw the town off)
Night 2: white lancer
Night 3: `Roxas`
Night 4: Jo Nathan
Night 5: Ctr Black
Night 6: Xhin
Night 7: Chief
Night 8: Black Yoshi

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The thing that bothers me is that I cannot use my list from last Day 1 due to Jo Nathan knowing what it was. :/ I'd suggest killing Jo Nathan quickly due to the fact that he was Mafia before the reset and might bank on figuring that one of us or all of us are still Mafia.

I'd much rather kill Castrael mainly because its a move that they will not be expecting when we have such high value targets to consider. Also white lancer being killed off on Night 2 would almost make it appear that Trever or myself are Mafia. I'm convinced that I can come off of innocent when compared to Trever, but this may ultimately may not be the best option.

It also may be necessary to sacrifice one of our own to really confuse the hell out of everyone. This tactic while lessening our numbers may throw the town off. :/ I am just playing devious I guess.

Also...

@MM9 "I'll make an offer you can't refuse..."

I'm willing to give up my powers of Godfather if I become a regular mafia member. Since I'm Godfather, I think I can do whatever the heck I want?

@ Host...

Will you verify that I can do this ^

January 8, 2013
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Helius

It doesn't really matter, regarding the Godfather role :). In this role setup the Godfather's only ability is to break ties in our nightkill votes. I don't think this will be a problem at all!

I think it would be pretty funny if we could sacrifice one of ourselves so effectively that it completely fools the town. The problem is no mafia group ever actually goes along with this because no one is willing to take the loss when it would be the most effective; most of the times the sacrifice comes when they have no options left, and the town can see through it. I might even be willing to go along with being sacrificed it if we can execute it well enough.

January 8, 2013
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MajorasMask9

Well, if you don't want to be executed, I'd recommend me (as it was my idea). And to me, the idea is most effective at the moment. But, yeah...

January 8, 2013
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Helius

It doesn't really matter, regarding the Godfather role :). In this role setup the Godfather's only ability is to break ties in our nightkill votes. I don't think this will be a problem at all!

Correct. I included it for kicks and giggles.

January 8, 2013
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White Thunder

FAW, I swear it's all random haha.

Mmmmmmmhmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

January 8, 2013
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Female Alpha Wolf

So all up for killing Helius on Night 1 and totally confusing the town?

Aye!

January 9, 2013
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Helius

Would your body be hidden?

Clearly we should leave Feral alone for a while, hopefully he'll give up on protecting himself and try to get lucky and save a townie.

I'd say we wait on the sacrifice until one of us has drawn some amount (but not too much) of suspicion, then kill and hide the body the following night.

January 9, 2013
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hezekiah

That would just be devious, hezekiah. Feral presents a problem. We can't get rid of him unless we kill him in the Day Round... and it's likely the Governor will stop any killing with Feral involved.

January 9, 2013
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Helius

I feel that Feral is gonna backfire on himself somehow. He's pretty determined to just protect himself every night, which will probably frustrate the town with good reason. He should have just kept quiet {:P}

And I don't think killing one of our own this early would do anything. I'd like to win this game :x

January 9, 2013
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Female Alpha Wolf

If we do kill one of each other it should be during a public lynching, and be built up over time, rather than a nightkill.

I think a better idea would be if we could all (or at least two of us) agree to not hold back in day rounds if we do something suspicious. What I mean is, say I do something that hezekiah really finds suspicious: I'd want hezekiah to publicly call me out on it. I'd still try to defend myself, but we should try our hardest to look past the fact that we know we're mafia to confuse the town, even if we get each other lynched. After one or two of us are dead we could cool it down and try a little harder to work together, if it even comes to that.

Not saying we should go out of our way to get each other lynched, but that if you feel that someone said something mafia-like, you should try to be one of the first to call them out.

This way we won't solely be responsible for killing one of our own, and it will definitely make us look more townie-like if any of us ever get lynched.

And, for the record, I don't mind if any of you call me out for being suspicious in the main thread for the duration of the game.

January 9, 2013
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MajorasMask9

That sounds like a plan to me. I'll probably start doing it because I've made myself look guilty and get lynched just for trying to protect someone. If I change up my game maybe they'll think I'm Town sided this time {shy}

January 9, 2013
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Female Alpha Wolf

I certainly should be more active this game. I'll try to come up with some justification for voting for a townie tomorrow.

January 10, 2013
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hezekiah

If it's still viable (aka nobody else votes), I plan to sacrifice myself to kill off Feral. My only fear is that the Governor will have decreed that nobody gets killed today, which does give me pause (while writing this post, I went back and checked the roles; I didn't initially remember there being a Governor this game). So actually, I think I'll avoid Feral unless there's legitimately nothing said that I can construe as suspicious.

January 10, 2013
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hezekiah

Well that's that. I would advise against any of you three voting against me, it could very easily lead the town to thinking that you are a mafioso protecting Yoshi from a lynch. If you've got some strategy in mind, however, go right ahead. I just know that Feral will end up being a thorn in our side, so we should take advantage of the chance to lynch him tomorrow, if a similar event as today's should transpire.

January 10, 2013
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hezekiah

Vote to kill someone! Hurrah!

January 11, 2013
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White Thunder

Anyone have someone specific in mind they want killed? I'd be fine with going along with Helius's suggestion of killing Castrael unless anyone feels someone else should be taken out.

Only person I don't really want killed is white lancer. We are saving him for Night 3.

January 11, 2013
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MajorasMask9

We are saving him for Night 3.

I lol'd

January 11, 2013
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White Thunder

Let's kill White Thunder!

I also don't have anyone specific in mind so I'll go along with whoever.

January 11, 2013
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Female Alpha Wolf

No strong feelings from me, so I'll kill whoever. Since nobody's voted at all yet, I'll put one in just in case nobody else gets around to it. I'm fine changing my vote, but am doing this for now because it's what's been discussed in the recent past.

hezekiah votes for Castreal

FAW, don't forget to hide the body!

January 11, 2013
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hezekiah

I'll kill Castrael.

January 11, 2013
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MajorasMask9

I vote to kill Castrel.

And I also want to take her to the mov- I mean, hide the body.

January 11, 2013
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Female Alpha Wolf

Cas was a Townie, sorry for no earlier notification.

January 12, 2013
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White Thunder

It appears that your tactic just might work hezy, you sly dog you {8D}

January 12, 2013
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Female Alpha Wolf

If I survive the day, you should kill me tonight.

January 12, 2013
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hezekiah

I don't think killing you in the night would be a good idea. For one, we really need the numbers now that Helius is gone. But also, I've been trying to throw suspicion toward you so that if either of us dies later on it will seemingly clear the other person. If we kill you and hide the body, it'll probably make the town think I'm mafia.

Right now I'm trying to call you suspicious without actually voting for you, because I think you stand a good chance at surviving the day round. I think you should cast a vote for someone later today. My hope is that white lancer in particular will still think that you aren't guilty and will vote for someone else (such as Trever, like Roxas already did). People don't seem to be voting much this game so every vote is beneficial.

January 13, 2013
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MajorasMask9

Okay, just checked on the timing... this round ends around 5:00 PM tomorrow.

January 13, 2013
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hezekiah

If Trever gets one more vote before the round ends, I'm going to throw a vote onto hezekiah. It's 2-1 right now, and with one more vote for Trever it'll be 3-1, meaning my vote for hezekiah won't change the outcome of Trever getting lynched, and will reenforce the idea that hezekiah and I have no connection whatsoever.

January 14, 2013
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MajorasMask9

Do it sooner rather than later. I'm around, and can tie the vote if things sway against me. If it ends up tied, should I kill Trever and bring even more suspicion against me, or say I'm against his guilt and stay out? I'm thinking give them no kill if necessary.

January 14, 2013
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hezekiah

If I vote for you now it'll be tied. I'm not really sure what you should do though. On one hand, it will look suspicious when Trever appears as innocent, but on the other hand, it has to be either you or Trever, and the town doesn't want a no-kill this round it seems.

January 14, 2013
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MajorasMask9

Well I think they'll be stuck on me and him tomorrow if neither of us die tonight. My only fear is the Vigilante deciding I'm worth killing tonight. And due to that, I think me leaving it tied if up to me is the right play. If the Vig kills me, they may think Trever's guilty too due to my dismissal of him as guilty. If they kill him, who knows what'll happen. I'm about to make a post in the main thread acknowledging that I'm active right now and able to cast a vote to save my life.

January 14, 2013
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hezekiah

Something I forgot to take into account is the Double Voter. Totally forgot there was on in this game. That could screw up the tie if they're one of the people who voted.

January 14, 2013
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MajorasMask9

Guess it didn't matter after all :)

January 14, 2013
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MajorasMask9

So's y'all wanna kill someone or wut

January 14, 2013
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White Thunder

chiefsonny
Jo Nathan
Xhin
`Roxas`
CtR Black
white lancer
Trever Leingod

These are the people we should pick from for tonight's kill. I think killing Xhin might be a good idea. He hasn't really done anything suspicious or said much, and everyone else save CtR has done something that could come back and haunt them in the longrun (ie the assumptions with Trever). Haven't thought this through too much, so if you guys have ideas feel free to suggest something.

January 14, 2013
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MajorasMask9

Well now we need a target. Still no strong feelings about who we'd target. We may consider a defensive Janitor use, in case the Vigilante decides I'm worth killing. Certainly seems like me and Trever are the "classy" picks for mafiosos right now. If we decide to Janitor me, we should make sure the night round lasts for its full length, for a justification why the Janitor wouldn't hide the body of the person we kill.

I guess part of our strategy will be based on who we kill, and how much we think they're a special role. I'd almost say it's better to kill a special role and leave it open than a townie, because that would give us better odds in the inevitable roleclaim. I'll check in later this evening, see what you two are thinking.

January 14, 2013
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hezekiah

I don't think covering up any of our (hezekiah FAW Majora) deaths is a good idea. Trever might be a good idea, though. Trever seems to be the cause of a lot of "confusion" this game, and keeping his identity unknown would make for an interesting Day 3. I think everyone in the town except for Feral thought Trever was more suspicious than you, so I think it's likely the vigilante will kill him.

So yeah, I think using our Janitor power on Trever would be a good idea this round. Covering up our own kills won't really help us much; but covering a vigilante kill would be great.

January 14, 2013
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MajorasMask9

But that if the Vigilante actually does decide to go against what everyone in the town suggested and NOT kill anyone tonight.

Especially if Trever somehow turns out to be the Vigilante. If we show that he is a Townie that died, the town may go straight for Jo Nathan's and Roxas' neck.

But if we allow Trever to live till tomorrow and choose someone else to kill, I'm pretty sure that everyone will vote for Trever tomorrow anyway, still making them lean towards Jo Nathan or Roxas being guilty.

So with that said... I dunno. {:P}

January 15, 2013
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Female Alpha Wolf

I'm pretty sure the vigilante will kill someone tonight. If they don't, they're making it easier on us :).

But I see your point about Roxas and Jo Nathan if the town figures out Trever is a townie. That could definitely work out in our favor, especially since we only need them to mislynch two more times until we win (unless any of us die.) Covering up Trever's identity would definitely cause confusion, but it's kind of hard to predict what would happen in that situation, and whether or not it would cause the town to go after any of us. At least if Trever's identity is known to the town we can sort of tell what will happen.

As for who we should kill, I still think Xhin could be a good idea. He hasn't been participating much and killing him won't really have any negative or positive effect on the town's discussions. We can also Janitor his body too, in case he's an important role.

January 15, 2013
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MajorasMask9

Yeah I was thinking killing Xhin (or any other inactive player really) could work because then they'd be down one more number but it wouldn't affect their thinking since the inactive player didn't do anything, leaving us innocent looking because there's nothing to tie us to them.

So if we kill an inactive player, and the Vigilante decides to kill either Jo or Trever tonight (if they're going with the majority and not their own opinion), it leaves whoever is left of the two looking even more suspicious.

And now I'm just kinda talking {:P} But yes I think Xhin would be a good idea.

January 15, 2013
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Female Alpha Wolf

Nice ideas. I'm thinking we kill Xhin, and hide Trever's body in case the Vigilante strikes. Ideally we'd make the Vigilante reveal himself to explain that he didn't kill Xhin. What I'd be concerned about is Feral becoming this game's Shadow Broker, just gathering information privately from all players. Anyway, I'd support FAW hiding Trever's body.

I vote to kill Xhin.

January 15, 2013
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hezekiah

Alrighty let's go with that.

I vote to kill Xhin and hide Trever's body if he is killed tonight.

January 15, 2013
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Female Alpha Wolf

Vote to kill Xhin.

January 15, 2013
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MajorasMask9

Xhin and Roxas, both townies... Who showed suspicions of Roxas?

January 15, 2013
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hezekiah

Haha. What if Trever is the vigilante? Either way, I feel this is just delicious. I feel everyone is gonna instantly think Trever is mafia and killed Roxas because he was suspicious of him. If they don't I'm gonna mention it and plant it in their head {roll}

Then again, it could be someone not even saying anything.

January 15, 2013
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Female Alpha Wolf

Trever was the most vocal about his suspicions of Roxas. I'm thinking he's got a good chance of being the vigilante.

The ratio is 3-6 right now. We need the town to mislynch two more times in order to win. I'm hoping to wait for someone to start the day round discussion before I bring anything up.

January 15, 2013
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MajorasMask9

Yeah I'm gonna wait for a few replies before mentioning anything. Te town is using everything and anything to get a lead and I don't put it past them to go with the time thing "The round started 5 minutes ago and you're online! You're obviously Mafia or a power role!"

January 15, 2013
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Female Alpha Wolf

Well I just lost a wall of text because Opera crashed on me, but the gist of it is I think they'll end up doing a roleclaim this round. If that happens, at least 2 of us should claim Townie. The third should claim either Townie (my choice) or Governor.

January 15, 2013
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hezekiah

I'm claiming townie if the roleclaim comes up. I could never pull off a Governor roleclaim after my tying the vote last round.

I don't think claiming Governor would be the best idea anyway, actually. If the real Governor counter-claimed, whichever one of use false-claimed it would be dead. Let's say FAW claimed governor, and white lancer was the real governor. If the town decided to lynch white lancer because they trust FAW, white lancer would just stop the lynching and thus prove he's the governor. The vigilante would then kill FAW. If the town decided to lynch FAW, then we'd be down one and white lancer would be confirmed innocent.

As for this day round, I'm banking on the vigilante roleclaiming, or Trever talking in general since he's the center of attention right now. I think I might be able to argue a case for white lancer getting lynched later on, but I have no idea what direction this round is heading just yet.

January 16, 2013
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MajorasMask9

You very well may get me killed. But we're in a tough spot regardless, so hopefully it would help clear you of suspicion.

January 16, 2013
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hezekiah

After the roleclaim, we've got 2 approaches:

  • Try to make them waste a round confirming a role (due to the possibility of a mafioso adopting a power role)

  • Try to get the other townie claims lynched. If people start saying you and me in the mafia together is a possibility, you might want to do the "well, lynch him first then you'll see I'm not". Either they agree with you and lynch me (clearing you), or they hit you and see how strongly you were going after me, hopefully clearing me. Or they ignore it entirely and kill us both.

    • January 16, 2013
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    hezekiah

    I think this goes without saying, but we should avoid killing anyone that claims to be a vanilla townie. White lancer claimed townie, and I have other reasons for thinking keeping him alive longer would be a good idea, so I take back what I said about wanting to kill him on Night 3 :).

    If all special roles claim, we should kill either the Double Voter or Governor (Governor kill would be most beneficial). If Feral were to protect anyone other than himself for the last few rounds, it would probably be the Vigilante. Additionally, if there is no governor, we could easily rush the votes into our favor if even one person votes for a townie later on in the game, without worrying about the governor stopping it.

    January 16, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    I agree with your logic. I'll appear in the main thread tonight to claim Townie. There would be merit to them trying to waste a round verifying someone like the Double-Voter.

    January 16, 2013
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    hezekiah

    I think it would be in our best interest for the round to end in a tie, or for the governor to stop the lynching.

    If nobody dies this day round, we'll pretty much be guaranteed a win. The ratio will be 3-6 for the day, and 3-5 after our night kill. From that point on, we'd only have to make the town mislynch once and we'd win. I think making them mislynch once would be easy enough with how well hezekiah and I have distanced ourself in the day rounds.

    This is assuming nothing much happens in the day round for the next ~23 hours.

    January 17, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    Trever just claimed Townie. Either someone is lying, or the Double Voter doesn't know that they're the Double Voter, which could be helpful for us. If we don't stop a lynch today, then our win objective will pretty much be to get both Trever and white lancer lynched by the town.

    January 17, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    I think I'll dispute lancer's reasoning for considering himself innocent due to the roleclaim. Obviously he wasn't the only person to consider the idea.

    January 17, 2013
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    hezekiah

    I don't think you should make enemies with white lancer. If anything, you should probably vote for me. Don't make it look like you agree with me or anything, and all that.

    January 17, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    WAIT, you should try to work in a vote for Trever. Maybe.

    Either Lancer, CtR, or Trever are the Double Voter, but they don't know it. If it's CtR, then he already has a vote on Trever. It's a bit of a gamble, but adding a vote to that could tip it in our favor if votes are too spread out. The town would have no reason to believe the Double Voter is still alive, so this could work in our favor if we play it right.

    January 18, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    EDIT: Then again, Castrael could have been the double voter. Oh well!

    January 18, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    Don't think so. Thunder said Cas was a Townie in 1357950396.

    January 18, 2013
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    hezekiah

    Yeah, I just wasn't sure for a second if the DV would appear as a townie when they died, but I don't see any reason why they wouldn't. I should probably get some sleep.

    January 18, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    Cas was just a Townie and not the Double Voter.

    January 18, 2013
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    White Thunder

    Well, either Trever is the Double Voter or the round has ended. We should find out soon enough.

    January 18, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    I... I think chiefsonny just admitted to being the Double Voter. Either that or he didn't count votes right. If he is the Double Voter, I think CtR was lying about being a townie and is most likely the Governor.

    January 18, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    So you gonna kill someone or what?

    January 18, 2013
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    White Thunder

    As it stands, if we get the town to mislynch one more time, they'll lose unless the vigilante kills any of us.

    chiefsonny
    Feral
    Jo Nathan
    CtR Black
    white lancer

    are our kill options for tonight. I'd recommend against killing Feral seeing as how he's the Doctor, and white lancer seeing as we'd probably have a better chance at getting him lynched.

    CtR Black could be a decent backup if the town becomes convinced of white lancer's innocence.

    Jo Nathan is the vigilante and ideally it would be a good idea to kill him off, but I think he's the most likely to be doctor-protected if Feral decides to protect people other than himself. Could be a gamble, but Jo Nathan is the one person that could turn the game around and hurt us very easily. Also, Jo Nathan said that he won't kill anyone, so maybe Feral won't think he's worth protecting? Kind of risky, but could win us the game if it works.

    chiefsonny is either the Double Voter or the Governor. Both roles won't exactly hurt us, so he isn't an immediate threat in that regard, but I think he'd be the least likely to be doctor-protected, and killing him would still leave two more "townies" in the game.

    Dunno what the best option would be though.

    January 18, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    What caused Trever's lynch? Was it just the 72 hours, or were 5 votes cast for him? I think that's information that should be known by the town.

    1. chiefsonny
    2. Feral - Doctor
    4. Jo Nathan - Vigilante
    7. CtR Black
    8. white lancer - Townie claim

    So both the DV and Governor are unknown still. I'm very concerned about Feral choosing to protect someone else, but at the same time that'd be very much unlike him. I think chiefsonny should be our target, but I'm not gonna commit to that just yet. 1) he might strongarm the town into a lynch of me if governor, 2) could cut off a debate by instakilling someone via 2 votes (4 will be required for a kill, assuming either we or the Vig succeed in a kill), 3) he expressed heavy suspicion of me last round (there's always questions of if the mafia's trying to fake a member). I would think I'm the frontrunner for tomorrow's lynch, and they'll know at most 2 townie claims are truthful. My thoughts are all over the place, so I don't know what else to say right now.

    January 18, 2013
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    hezekiah

    What caused Trever's lynch? Was it just the 72 hours, or were 5 votes cast for him? I think that's information that should be known by the town.

    They happened almost exactly at the same time, actually. Feral's vote came just before the 72 hour limit.

    January 18, 2013
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    White Thunder

    I'm actually thinking it might be in our best interest to target Jo Nathan.

    Right now the ratio is 3-5. If we kill someone tonight it will be 3-4, and we'll still need to make the town mislynch the following day to win.

    If we are unable to kill anyone tonight, the ratio will be 3-5 in the next day. If they mislynch, it will be 3-4 and we'll kill one of them in night bringing it to 3-3. Regardless of what happens tonight, they need to lynch an innocent person one more time.

    I have a very strong feeling Jo Nathan will be protected by Feral, but in the end it won't make our win any more difficult. However, if Jo Nathan isn't protected by Feral, then that's one threat we won't have to worry about for the rest of the game.

    January 18, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    I'd feel better trying to take out the Governor.

    January 18, 2013
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    hezekiah

    Ok. I'm still uncertain as to whether or not it's chiefsonny though. CtR has been known to lie about his role as a town-sided power role before, even after the town agrees to roleclaim. The fact that chiefsonny didn't want to vote for you because it would tie the vote when the vote was 4-2 (Trever/you) kind of makes me think he's the double voter. Not entirely sure of that though.

    January 19, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    Feral: Doctor
    chiefsonny: Double-Voter
    Jo Nathan: Vigilante?
    CtR Black: Governor?
    white lancer: Townie?

    After reading through the thread again, I think we need to kill chief. He seems to be pretty intent on killing me, so I'd rather not give him his two votes tomorrow.

    FAW: at the very least, at least please make a post something along the lines of "I'll hide the body of whoever we end up killing".

    January 19, 2013
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    hezekiah

    I'll vote to kill chiefsonny.

    January 19, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    Haha sorry. Once again, I have no particular pick and I'll hide whoever we vote to kill. ANd now off to work I gooooooo.

    January 19, 2013
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    Female Alpha Wolf

    Day should've started a couple hours ago...

    January 19, 2013
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    hezekiah

    Muh bad. Was gone.

    January 19, 2013
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    White Thunder

    Ratio is 2-4 right now.

    If we get white lancer lynched today and the ratio will be 2-3. We only need 3 votes for the round to end, which should be pretty easy.

    Then we kill one person at night and hope Jo Nathan doesn't kill either of us.

    And we WIN

    January 20, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    Kind of repetitive, but I'm pretty sure the game will play out something like this:

    Today, white lancer will get lynched. If chiefsonny was the double voter, I have a feeling either white lancer or CtR will claim governor. I don't think this will be a problem if we just point out the fact that they could easily be lying (considering they already claimed Townie.) Anyway... Assuming they lynch a townie today:

    At night, we should target Jo Nathan. If Jo Nathan is not protected by Feral, then we win the game right there. The ratio would be in our favor, and since the mafia kill has priority over the vigilante kill, the ratio can't change from that point on.

    If Feral protects Jo Nathan, Jo will likely want to use his vigilante powers to kill one of the three "townie" claims. I think he'll shoot CtR Black though. They've already said that they have reason to believe CtR Black is guilty, and have some reason to think both of us are innocent. Granted, he'd know both of us can't be innocent, but I think he'll find CtR the safest option. If he does, then we win.

    If Jo Nathan doesn't kill anyone, and is protected by Feral, then we should try to get CtR Black lynched.

    Either way, it looks very likely that we're going to win this.

    January 20, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    chief was the DV, again sorry for not informing earlier.

    January 20, 2013
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    White Thunder

    New strategy, FAW: Act like you're convinced that both me and lancer are guilty. We'll have three people blaming the other two, and Jo Nathan will only be able to trust one.

    January 20, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    Kill someone y'allll

    January 20, 2013
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    White Thunder

    This round is pretty risky, there's a lot of different things that could happen that could completely change the outcome of the game, these are just some of the more notable ones:

    If we decide to kill Jo Nathan:

    -- 1 --
    *We kill Jo Nathan, preventing a vigilante kill.
    *We get white lancer lynched.
    *We win.

    -- 2 --
    *Jo Nathan is protected by Feral.
    *Jo Nathan kills white lancer.
    *We lose.

    -- 3 --
    *Jo Nathan is protected by Feral.
    *Jo Nathan kills you or me.
    *We lose.

    If we decide to kill CtR Black:

    -- 1 --
    *We kill CtR Black.
    *Jo Nathan kills white lancer.
    *We win.

    -- 2 --
    *We kill CtR Black.
    *Jo Nathan kills you or me, ratio is (1-3).
    *We lynch white lancer, ratio is (1-2).
    *We will only win if we are able to kill Jo Nathan the following night.

    -- 3 --
    *CtR Black is protected by Feral.
    *Jo Nathan kills anyone.
    *We lose.


    Basically what this means is that if we think Feral won't protect Jo Nathan, we should target Jo Nathan. Or, if we think Jo Nathan will target white lancer, regardless of Feral's target, we should kill CtR Black.

    Other options won't really help us that much.

    January 20, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    I've been mulling it over, and I think we should kill Jo Nathan. I think Jo Nathan will want to kill you, because white lancer and I seem to be the most "unclear" this round. We'll have to hope Feral doesn't protect Jo Nathan, as much as I doubt he won't.

    So basically, if Feral protects Jo Nathan we lose, but if he doesn't we have a shot at winning.

    January 21, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    Vote to kill Jo Nathan

    As to which body to hide... Up to you. The town knows what Jo Nathan's role is already, so hiding it is kind of pointless. If Feral protects Jo Nathan and Jo Nathan shoots someone, you could try to hide the body of the person he shoots, but I don't see how it would change the outcome of us losing anyway.

    Next day round, you need to try to convince the town that you think me and white lancer are mafia. Then we'd have an accusation triangle, which could throw the town off a little bit (I'd be accusing you and lancer, lancer will be accusing you and me, you'd be accusing me and lancer).

    January 21, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    Alrighty. That sounds about good to me, nothing left to lose... But the game I guess.

    Vote to kill Jo Nathan

    January 21, 2013
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    Female Alpha Wolf

    We're in a good position now. white lancer targeted me, and I targeted him, so it's up for the town to decide which of us they want lynched.

    If Feral or CtR put in a vote for white lancer, you need to try to jump on it when you get the chance. But only after they vote. You'll bring the vote count to three and win the game.

    January 21, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    I'm so sorry FAW :(. I know you probably won't be able to see this until the game ends, but with Feral and lancer voting for you I had to join them.

    January 21, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    I'm just waiting for the day that I'm a townie and they lynch me for ring suspicious. Who will be laughing then?!? BWHAHAHAHAHA

    January 21, 2013
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    Female Alpha Wolf

    I'm really interested to see how this turns out...

    Who will it be tonight?

    January 21, 2013
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    White Thunder

    Well. I can either kill Feral or CtR Black. There's a 50% chance either of them will be protected by Feral. Next round I need to get lancer lynched. Then I have another 50% chance to kill someone at night.

    So basically, assuming I can get white lancer lynched, I have a 75% chance of winning.

    UM.

    I'm going to kill CtR Black.

    January 21, 2013
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    MajorasMask9



    January 21, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    Heads was Feral Tails was CtR btw. I'll still make up my mind when the night round actually starts, though.

    January 21, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    You got CtR. Let's see how Feral votes.

    January 22, 2013
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    White Thunder

    I'm hoping Feral gets on before white lancer. I think he'd be more willing to go along with CtR right at this moment, unless white lancer uses his white magic to make them turn on me.

    I'm feeling pretty confident in my nightkill pick. Pretty confident... All depends on Feral from this point on.

    January 22, 2013
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    MajorasMask9



    January 22, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    That's what I thought, biatch.

    January 22, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    I'm hoping lancer gets lynched so it comes down to the night. You vs. Feral, 1 on 1 mind games. 50-50 shot. Doesn't get much better than that.

    January 22, 2013
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    White Thunder

    Lancer's getting lynched. All depends on my and Feral's decisions.

    I've got a message written up to try to throw Feral off, making him think I have a good reason to kill him this night round. I'm so hesitant to post it though. My goal is to make it seem all smug so that his reaction will be to protect himself just to prove me wrong, but if he sees through it then I'm screwed. But I kind of like the idea, because it seems like a better option than relying on a coin flip.

    I'll think about it...

    January 22, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    NO, TOO RISKY. He'd see right through it. I'm going to have faith in the coin flip. Right, coin?

    January 22, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    <OO

    January 22, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    Lol. This is so freakin' sweet.

    So, officially, who will it be tonight, Majora?

    January 22, 2013
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    White Thunder

    ONE LAST COIN FLIP. IF IT IS HEADS THEN THE ODDS OF ME FLIPPING HEADS A THIRD TIME WOULD BE 12.5%. SINCE I AM NOT FLIPPING THE COIN A THIRD TIME, I WILL TRANSFER MY STORED UP LUCK INTO MY NIGHT KILL. THUS, IF IT IS HEADS I WILL HAVE A 90% CHANCE OF WINNING.

    January 22, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    Coins are dumb anyway.

    Voting for CtR Black.

    January 22, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

    LAST TIME I EVER TRUST THE GTX0 COIN.

    January 23, 2013
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    MajorasMask9

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