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Posted March 21, 2012 by Yeano

Continued from [p:60802]

Night 2

The town vehemently argued back and forth all day. When the time came to tally the votes, there was no majority. The plurality rested with lynching, Xhin, however. So the town executed Xhin. Rest in Peace, the Doctor.


1. MajorasMask9
2. #85
3. Shadowwalked
4. `Roxas`
5. Feral
6. Black Yoshi
7. white lancer
8. Knukles2000
9. BCB
10. Helius
11. Xhin - Doctor
12. chiefsonny
13. LLight
14. CtR Black
15. hezekiah


The Mafia-Town ratio is 4-10.

Godfather (1), Silencer (1), Mafioso (2), Cop (1), Vigilante (1), Townie (8).

24 hours to get your night actions in.

WARNING: If your role changes to "Silenced" during the game, that means you are silenced, and are not allowed to speak! If you speak, you will be killed by a host-kill.

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DAY 3

In the night, there was gunshot. The next morning the town discovered Feral's body. All he got for his birthday was a bullet in the head. He was a Townie.


1. MajorasMask9
2. #85
3. Shadowwalked
4. `Roxas`
5. Feral - Townie
6. Black Yoshi
7. white lancer
8. Knukles2000
9. BCB
10. Helius
11. Xhin - Doctor
12. chiefsonny
13. LLight
14. CtR Black
15. hezekiah


The Mafia-Town ratio is 4-9.

Godfather (1), Silencer (1), Mafioso (2), Cop (1), Vigilante (1), Townie (7).

72 hours or 8 votes.

WARNING: If your role changes to "Silenced" during the game, that means you are silenced, and are not allowed to speak! If you speak, you will be killed by a host-kill.

March 22, 2012
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Yeano

I think we can sum up last round in one word.

FUCK.

March 22, 2012
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`Roxas`

Voting for Knukles like I wanted to originally.

March 22, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Don't you think we should at least use the suspicions of the Doctor, the person who the Doctor saved and the Townie we lost to the Mafia last night before jumping to voting on somebody?

March 22, 2012
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`Roxas`

You guys can vote for whoever you want. But you would have wasted more ammo on a simple townie. I was dead set on Xhin because I truly believed he was a mafia, and if not he was a special class, as I said. It just turns out my lesser suspicion was true.

As such, I vote for #85. Llight AND Xhin were both suspicious of him.

March 22, 2012
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Knukles2000

Also, I would like to state there is a very high chance Light was silenced. He was here not long ago, but strangely left nothing.

I thought for sure the mafia would silence me, but they didn't.

March 22, 2012
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Knukles2000

LLight's Suspicions:
#85, CtR Black, chiefsonny, and Black Yoshi

Xhin's Suspicions:
#85, Feral, Knukles2000, Helius

Feral didn't really leave any suspicions behind.

Also, why would the Mafia go after Feral? He stated no suspects or anything, except for a vote against Xhin. This move just didn't make much sense, except to just take a shot and get the Cop.

Speaking of which role, should the Cop already have two members of the Mafia figured out, then I would highly suggest that he speak up now. We can take out half the Mafia today and tonight in doing so, and have a 7-2 advantage come tomorrow morning.

I have my own list of suspects, three of which match up with our late Doctor and LLight.

March 22, 2012
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`Roxas`

Remember all, we still have a majority, we can still win this. Just think very carefully who to vote for. My vote is subject to change, but based on the last post, I have no reason to change it at this point.

March 22, 2012
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Knukles2000

Knuckles trying to throw me under the bus? You were the one that was the most deadset on voting Xhin.

And it was Roxas that first voted for Xhin (not accusing just pointing out)

I am considering voting knuckles, or a no vote.

March 22, 2012
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#85

Yes, and I was suspicious of him throughout the last day, but I withdrew my vote against him in order to make sure I was making the right decision. Unfortunately, my mind was not changed and it cost us the most valuable player we had on our side. I admit that I fucked up with that vote, since it was the one that sealed his fate at that point.

I'm not accusing you of anything, #85, I just find it odd that Xhin makes quite a few valid points against you and says you are the most suspicious of everybody who voted for him. The first person targeted by the Mafia, and the only person Xhin managed to save, was also suspicious of you. I will admit that I am suspicious of you as well, but I will not cast my vote so early in the round for that reason.

Going back to my reference of Xhin's and LLight's suspicions, I said that three of their suspects I also have suspected, with a fourth on their list conflicting with a fourth on my list. I realize that it is likely that during the night, my suspicions may end up costing me my time in the game, or being silenced tomorrow at the best.

That being said, the individuals who are suspicious to me are:

#85
CtR Black
Helius
Shadowwalked OR chiefsonny

As I stated, I do not know who I am going to vote for just yet, even though I am suspicious of you, #85.


As far as your accusation against Knukles, I am convinced he is a Townie. He felt as though he was justified in his vote against Xhin, even if he was wrong. He admit that while Xhin stated his innocence (somewhat) that should Knukles himself be voted out, his role would be revealed as Townie. He has not really done anything too suspicious, other than trying to push votes towards Xhin (again, he felt he was entirely justified in the manner that Xhin was playing this round).

March 22, 2012
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`Roxas`

Xhin also said feral was suspicious. Why are people taking certaint peoples word as the gospel? Noone knows but the cop. You and I were incorrect on Xhin. That's why I'm leaning towards a no vote because the more people around, we can hold our lead and prolong cop checks....while you are the one trying to get the cop to reveal himself early, knowing the cop can't protect himself

And yeah I'm trying to decide if knuckles is truly a mastermind or a little nutty (no offense lol)

the first person targeted by the Mafia

I was suspicious before the mafia targeted him. How is that really relevant though? All I do, in every game, is point things out that people don't consider. I pointed out that LLight wanted to vote someone out first round, which was against the will of the town, and I pointed out who wasn't talking in round 1.

March 22, 2012
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#85

Well that certainly is a bitch. I can't say that I agree with Xhin's strategy. The Doctor is a position that should be stated right out, granting you both immunity at night and during the day. Furthermore, anyone else who would have admitted to being the Doctor would have instantly been branded a mafia, allowing us to exterminate them.

My original strategy was that I was going to declare myself the cop, forcing the real cop to reveal itself, while the Doctor remained hidden. The Doctor could then keep the cop alive as the cop listed off mafia members, ensuring us a clean victory.

As for those suspicious of me, I can only assure you that I am not of the mafia, nor am I of any important role, which may explain my lazier responses as compared to last game. At this point, I'm just as much in the dark as any of you, nor can I suggest that we vote for anyone and claim it anything more than a roulette.

I'm hesitant on the route that we should take at this point. If we vote "No vote", we'll just be killed off each night. If we vote for someone with our lack of information, we run the risk of lynching off one of our own.

If the cop has two individuals that are known Mafia, then it would be best for him to give out those individuals rather than risk being killed during the night. If the cop has no suspects, then it is best to continue acting in silence.

The problem is this is that we'll eventually reach a person who upon investigation is shown to be a townie, but is really the godfather. But if we make it that far, we should already be well enough ahead and certain of ourselves to be able to distinguish who exactly it is.

March 22, 2012
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Shadowwalked

I'm not saying that Xhin or LLight or anyone is correct in their suspicions. I had my suspicions of you before LLight even brought you up as a suspect. I'm just pointing out that should the Cop already have information on two of the three Mafia we know would show up as guilty, that should be good enough. Obviously, if we have all three it shouldn't matter. At that point, we just have to vote people out since the Godfather shows as innocent.

March 22, 2012
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`Roxas`

Well at this point I can fully understand anyone that has suspicions about me after the bone head move I made last round.

The vote was 5 No Vote and 4 Xhin.

I cast my last vote for Xhin to see if he was serious about wanting to sacrifice himself. I figured if he was, then he would vote for himself there by breaking the tie and giving himself 1 more vote.
And if he did not do that, then with 4 people left to vote, BCB, Black Yoshie, Hezy and Feral (he rescinded his first vote)then surely one or more would vote No Vote, since that seemed to be what most wanted.
Should have watched the count more closely in the finial hours, because Xhin would not have been my choice if I thought he was BSing about the sacrificial lamb crap.
The only one that voted after that was Hezy and he voted for Xhin. The other 3 never voted.
Dumb-ass playing on my part.

So I'm sorry I was partially responsible for killing the Doctor.

That said, I can only say that I am not Mafia. But you guys do what you think you have to do.
I also agree that if the Cop was anything that will help us, then he should make a post. BUT ONLY, if it's worth the risk of exposing himself. We can not afford to loose anymore people.

March 22, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

Well, now I'm less convinced that the three of you are Mafia.

And thus that leaves the six of us (#85, chief, Shadowwalked, Knukles, LLight and myself) with seven possible people fitting in to four spots:

CtR Black
Helius
MajorasMask9
Black Yoshi
white lancer
BCB
hezekiah

Anyone have any arguments as to why we should vote for one, or more, of these people today?

March 22, 2012
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`Roxas`

This game started at 9:15PM EST today 3/21 so I would suggest we wait for voting at least for a full 24-36 hours to see if we get any response from the Cop. That's what I'm going to do.

March 22, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

Was just reading the Rules and Roles before I go to bed and I don't see it covered any where.

Can The Cop be silenced?
Man let's hope not.

March 22, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

I agree, chief. Voting early is a terrible idea with our situation the way that it is.

From that list, one is a townie, one is the Cop, one is the vigilante, and the remaining four are Mafia. That is, of course, assuming we are all honest with one another at the moment. We need to narrow down what we know of each player on that list to figure out who is Mafia, with the little bit of information we have.

March 22, 2012
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`Roxas`

I believe ANY player can be silenced. At least that is how we figure based off of last round when no one was silenced.

March 22, 2012
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`Roxas`

Can The Cop be silenced?

Yes, anyone can be silenced including the cop.

March 22, 2012
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Yeano

Alright I have a theory, of course basing off of what has been said through the game: (EDIT: I know we can not take people for their word, other than those who have died, LLight, and oneself)

Townies:
BCB, chiefsonny, #85, Shadowwalked, Knukles, Feral, LLight, Xhin and myself

I find it odd that the Vigilante has yet to try to make any moves, though it does make sense for this role to hold out on voting until information is gathered, which seems like what white lancer was saying in the first round. This leads me to believe that he is the Vigilante. Of course, the same could be said for LLight.
I am sensing that Majora may well be the Cop this time around. Again, however, LLight may fill in this role as well.

So that leaves us with four people who are Mafia:
CtR Black, Helius, Black Yoshi and hezekiah



Just something to consider for now.

March 22, 2012
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`Roxas`

I am sensing that Majora may well be the Cop this time around.

If Majora is the Cop, then Knukles is almost certainly Mafia. Majora was suspicious of him last round and probably would have checked him last night. I am a Townie, by the way, not the Vigilante. I just think it's important to gather information regardless of what round it is.

From that list, one is a townie, one is the Cop, one is the vigilante, and the remaining four are Mafia. That is, of course, assuming we are all honest with one another at the moment.

A very dangerous assumption IMO. Obviously there are four people in this game that are lying, and what makes them any less likely to be the people who spoke up first? And the Cop/Vigilante could very well be among the group you identified as Townies.

And losing the Doctor is definitely a blow to the town, but personally I'm a bit surprised that people are calling it the most important role we have on our side. Maybe it's just because the Doctor has gotten lucky with its selection twice now, but normally the odds are against him/her selecting the right person to save--and whenever I've played this game, I've probably seen more games in which the Doctor DIDN'T save anyone than games in which it did. To me, the Doctor is really only important because he can protect the Cop, which is our best source of gathering information.

That being said, I really don't think the Cop should reveal himself right now. Without a Doctor, it's too dangerous, and until he/she has managed to identify all three Mafia members (minus the Godfather, of course) I don't think it's a good risk. I would rather they voice what they know discreetly in this post so that if they do die, we'll have something to check back upon.

My vote this round is probably going to go toward Knukles or #85, since they were the most adamant about going after Xhin last round.

March 22, 2012
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white lancer

My basis for voting for Xhin was based on our discussion for voting someone off. I didn't change my vote because he went and started accusing me of being Mafia (even though his same theory could apply to him). I actually thought about changing my vote to a no vote, but caught up with things IRL before I could do it.

All I can say is

Fuck. We're screwed.

If I had known he was the doctor, I would have changed my vote immediately. I'm really upset at myself for not changing my vote earlier.

March 22, 2012
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Helius

Who said anything about me being cop??

I find Knukles suspicious for a few reasons. On the first night, he had absolutely no problems with no-voting and not posting anything aside from "no-vote" (go to the last thread, ctrl+f: 1331846119). In the next day, despite us having the same amount of people alive, he was for whatever reason firmly against no-voting, and desperately wanted to get someone lynched (ctrl+f: 1332181114). This would be something the mafia would want since their target was doctor protected on the first night. He was also insistent on making Xhin look suspicious (all throughout the thread, so I won't bother linking to specific replies).

He's also doing the "vote for me and it'll prove that I'm innocent" thing, which doesn't make much sense at all since his lynching would do nothing but hurt the town if he is town. It also wouldn't have proved Xhin was mafia. He only started saying that he should be lynched while the day was nearing the end and while Xhin/no-vote were the majority.

While there is the chance that Knukles could somehow be innocent, the same could be said for everyone until the cop speaks up. Sticking with my vote for Knukles.

EDIT: We should also keep in mind that at least one--if not more than one--of the people who voted for Xhin will most likely be mafia. The entire mafia would not pass up the chance to lynch an innocent person in the day round just to keep all of themselves looking innocent. Maybe one or two of them would, but not all of them.

Those people were Knukles, #85, hezekiah, Helius, and Roxas.

March 22, 2012
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MajorasMask9

If I read the roles right, the Doctor, Cop and Vigilante are on the side of the town and should be the ones the Mafia would want to get first and would love for them to reveal themselves.
We've already lost one of the three and that's why imo the Cop should only speak up if the info he/she has is worth the risk.

Also keep in mind the Mafia does not have the Thug this game to take a bullet for them, so they have to be a little more careful to.

March 22, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

Like I said, that is a theory. Whether or not it is accurate has yet to be proven, though according to white lacner's statement that he is a simple townie somewhat disproves it.

March 22, 2012
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`Roxas`

I think it's fairly safe to assume most of the "talkers" are townies, its unlikely all 4 mafia are contributing heavily. This means that a mafia or two are non talkers.

March 22, 2012
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#85

Also keep in mind the Mafia does not have the Thug this game to take a bullet for them, so they have to be a little more careful to.

I actually don't see how the Thug would have helped the Mafia anyway. If anything, he might have helped the town--if the Vigilante hit a Mafia member and the Thug died instead, the Vigilante would know that the person he attempted to kill was Mafia, and he'd also have killed the Thug. Two Mafia members down right there. Anyway, I digress.

After reading Majora's post, I'm going to cast my vote for Knukles as well. I forgot that he pushed for No Vote at the start of the first round.

March 22, 2012
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white lancer

I will read and reply later, just replying now because I'm at work (ing remotely) and am more concentrated on actual work. Replying so you guys aren't suspecting that I'm silenced or incorrectly thinking that I'm dead since obviously my name is not crossed off yet {>:(} @ Roxas, I'm looking at you.

March 22, 2012
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LLight

This is all based on the last two day rounds.

Let's see, #85 is suspicious because in the first round he went around pointing fingers at people saying they were suspicious when there was absolutely no reason for anyone to be suspicious of anyone as there is nothing anyone can soundly say that is indicative of their role. Roxas is now suspicious for the very same accusations while also falsely listing my suspicions as chiefsonny and Black Yoshi (I said they were townie, honest mistake on your part). CtR Black was a potshot.


Shadowwalked is naturally a suspicious character, even outside of the game, but so far has not given any reason to suspect (this buzzword is wholly overused). MajorasMask9 on the other hand objectively makes the most sense and I was thinking Knuckles was a special role up until the end where he had absolute conviction that Xhin was a baddie. This is a mistake that will cost him because I vote Knuckles.

I'm staying away from trying to identify townie special roles because any talk of who they might be is a good indicator for the mafia to target them. That being said, Shadowwalked's strategy is not a good one unless you coordinate outside of the game. When you claim to be a role, you better be prepared to die for it because the only way we'll know for sure is if you die. This is to be used as a tactical advantage for townies only because it doesn't matter who is the cop, it only matters that we kill the mafia.

March 22, 2012
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LLight

I vote

No vote.

March 22, 2012
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#85

Lol, you guys are some real idiots voting for me. Beforehand, I was what Llight first suspected of me. A Paranoid "skitsofrantic".

As I said, I was deadset on Xhin because I highly suspected he was mafia. And if not, he was a special class. My lesser suspicion just turned out to be true.

So, in short. I know full well why you are all voting me. BUT. It will cost you all. As you would waste more ammo on a townie, and the mafia would have killed another townie sided role. Most likely the cop, or the vig because they seem rly smart this round.

So for your own sakes, think about who you are voting for. I was just reckless, and idiotic with Xhin. DON'T waste your vote on me.

March 22, 2012
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Knukles2000

Also, we know Llight was saved by Xhin last round.

Keep in mind though, all. That Xhin dosn't know who is mafia and who isn't either. Llight could have been offed by the vig, and Xhin randomly picked to save Llight.

While theres a very small chance, Llight himself could be Mafia.

March 22, 2012
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Knukles2000

I never crossed off your name, LLight. Your name is, however, between those of Feral and Xhin.

I'm just playing the game to win. If that means you guys have to vote out a townie, than so be it.

For now, my vote goes to hezekiah.

March 22, 2012
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`Roxas`

3 votes Knuckes (majorasmask,LLight, white lancer)

1 vote #85 (crazyknuckles)

1 vote no vote (#85)

1 vote Hezekiah (Roxas)

March 22, 2012
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#85

Well, #85 is less and less suspicious as mafia in my eyes now...

So to shamefully try to save myself after what I pulled, and go with my greater suspicion, (that I have kept quiet about assuming he was just new), I also will vote HEZEKIAH now.

KEEP IN MIND HOWEVER, my vote can change should something come up...

March 22, 2012
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Knukles2000

"I vote for 85. Xhin AND LLight were suspicious of him"- knuckles

"Xhin doesn't know who mafia is"-knuckles

"I was deadset on Xhin"-knuckles

"I was idiotic with Xhin"-knuckles

Tempted to vote for all this suspicious backpedaling...but gonna keep no vote for now

March 22, 2012
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#85

Hey now, we can't all play the townie card. {8D}

I'm feeling a bit of a mental exhaustion today so I don't think my accusation of Roxas makes the most sense at the moment. Should go for some non-talkers next...

March 22, 2012
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LLight

Man, i'm a townie. I dunno what to think. It's all trial and error with us most of the time. Plus my mind changes a lot. PLUS I'm doing all I can to save myself, while voting out a mafia.

March 22, 2012
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Knukles2000

Also, how can you be so sure that Black Yoshi is a townie? Yes, I misread what you were saying last round and moved it to this round, just like you did after only focusing on one post I have made in this round I have stated in this thread that while I am not ruling out chief being a member of the Mafia, that I doubt it; hence why I did say the following:

Townies:
BCB, chiefsonny, #85, Shadowwalked, Knukles, Feral, LLight, Xhin and myself

As you can see, I did say that chief is likely to be town-sided, despite earlier suspicions.

I, however, do not see where you can suspect Black Yoshi to be town-sided. As chief said yesterday, if he were having issues with internet connection, why would he not have voted while he was posting?

I am not convinced whatsoever in Helius's story as to why he was unable to post for a while in the game.

March 22, 2012
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`Roxas`

imo, BCB, chiefsonny and Shadowwalked have done nothing to indicate their roles either. A vote for anyone else is a good of a potshot as any.

March 22, 2012
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LLight

"Llight could have been offed by the vig"

I doubt that. After reading that, I asked myself when would I strike if I was in that role. It would not have been that soon. I would have waited until after I heard from the Cop or at least until after 2/3 day rounds.

"While theres a very small chance, Llight himself could be Mafia."

I don't want to sound like a LLight butt boy, but imo we need to stop beating that dead horse.
In the abbreviated game 2, I was Mafia and I don't remember ever bringing up killing a fellow mafia.

I still want to give the Cop a few more hours in the event he been busy with rl stuff. Will cast my vote in the morning. We're down 2 people and I helped with one of those, and I want to avoid that again if possible, so I want to wait as long as I can in the event the Cop does post.

March 23, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

I'm just trying to throw the possibilities out there, Chief.

March 23, 2012
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Knukles2000

roxas and knuckles are mafia.

i vote for knuckles

March 23, 2012
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CtR Black

On what grounds do you base such wild, random theories, CtR? Sigh, I guess you all will have to find out the hard way, waste ammo, and let the mafia win. ALTHOUGH, CtR himself is prolly mafia.

March 23, 2012
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Knukles2000

Just posting to say I agree with CtR.

Roxas looked suspicious to me with his vote last round in particular. The way he voted for Xhin, took it back to no-vote, and then switched it back to Xhin at the very last second to tip the majority. Also, in the first day round, after LLight made his post where he voted for CtR, Roxas made a post saying:

"Seeing as LLight is the only one so far to vote for somebody, I think that should he be the one the Mafia takes out in the night round then we should consider what he says."

With LLight's vote being a random vote (meaning it would most likely change in the following round if more information came up, which it did), I don't see why you would post anything like this at all. If you were mafia, I could see why you would: you could then shift suspicion to CtR (assuming CtR is innocent) by targeting LLight at night yourself. If you were town-sided, I doubt you would say something like that unless you were the doctor (which you aren't). Additionally, if you were town-sided, I'd think you'd know that saying something like that would prove nothing in the next day round, since the mafia would take advantage of you saying that. The fact that you still labeled CtR as a most-likely candidate for mafia despite that is kind of odd.

Not to mention his actions this round have been suspicious enough.

Let's make a list of people two townies--people that are purely speculating about the game--are suspicious of, then ask if people have arguments for why we should vote for one of the people on this list. Also I'm going to leave Knukles off of the list despite him looking the most suspicious and Xhin mentioning him as being suspicious.
-Roxas

It's setting off a lot of red flags tbh! I think it would be a good idea for the cop to check him in the next night if they haven't already. EDIT: No, I take that back. I actually think it would be a much smarter move for the vigilante to step up at this point. If Knukles gets lynched and is mafia, it's very likely that Roxas is as well. That's up to the vigilante to decide, though.

March 23, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Also, here's the vote count up to this point, for anyone that is curious:

4 - Knukles (Majora, LLight, white lancer, CtR)
2 - hezekiah (Knukles, Roxas)
1 - no-vote (#85)

March 23, 2012
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MajorasMask9

I'm gonna be loling at you all struggling to take on the mafia when two townie sided roles are killed yet again in one round.

March 23, 2012
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Knukles2000

BTW, IF I turn out a townie, NOTICE there are FOUR voting for me. Hint hint.

March 23, 2012
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Knukles2000

If you lynch me and IF I'm a townie, go after the first four people that wanted to lynch me. It doesn't matter that they have clearly justifiable reasons to lynch me; they're clearly suspicious! Despite the fact that I need more than four votes to be lynched.
-Knukles

It's making absurd posts like this that you're being lynched in the first place. You acted as if you were positive Xhin was mafia--almost making it look like you were the cop even--and have been suspicious in general aside from that.

March 23, 2012
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MajorasMask9

haha, what can I say? We all have a different way to play, and a different strategy. And you are putting words in my mouth. I didn't necessarily say you are ALL mafia.

However two of you I am almost sure of. Remember my words. When you see I am a townie, you will start to see how my error with Xhin unfolded, and start to see how my type of strategy works. Take note.

March 23, 2012
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Knukles2000

However, I will say it was my intent to make you all believe I was the cop. It was meant to be a first line of defense for the real cop.

However, the mafia apparently figured out that is what I am doing. And they took their best guess at Feral.

I highly doubt they will stay their hand again. I do believe they know who the cop is.

March 23, 2012
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Knukles2000

I am not convinced whatsoever in Helius's story as to why he was unable to post for a while in the game.

Yep. You got me! I'm completely false about working almost a full-time schedule and doing a full load of school on top of that. I have all the time in the world to play this game and in fact, could have said something about everything cause I am on the internet 24/7. <----- SARCASM!

I will not spread falsehoods about IRL workload. I had to spend two months unemployed to get the job I have, and take pride in the work that I do. As I have already stated, if you think I'm being suspicious check when I POST with when I POST on Jedi Sith. There is a correlation in there somewhere at what points and time that I am able to post in this game.

Now out of spite...

I vote 'Roxas'

(though I will change my vote if I see a better argument)

March 23, 2012
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Helius

Believe what y'all want. If either Knukles or I deserves to be lynched, it is I. I was the one who first voted for Xhin AND I was the one that tipped the majority to lynch Xhin last round.

"I'm okay if my theories can be proven wrong. I'll die for them if need be." -- LLight (1332197602)
"Theories, we need theories." -- LLight (1332211024)

If need be, just as LLight said about his theories, I too will die if it means they have a chance of working. We had a lack of theories last round, I simply provided one this time.


The only part of your story that I do not believe, Helius, is that you were without internet access.

But hey, it's just a game. C'est la vie. VOTE FOR ME.

March 23, 2012
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`Roxas`

However, I will say it was my intent to make you all believe I was the cop. It was meant to be a first line of defense for the real cop.

Just for future reference, when subtly trying to make the mafia think you're the cop, don't make someone that's innocent look guilty, or the mafia will instantly know you're not the cop :).

March 23, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Oh, and I change my vote to myself.

March 23, 2012
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`Roxas`

Well now I'm just expecting Knukles to be the Godfather or Silencer while Roxas is a vanilla mafioso.

March 23, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Well, let's prepare for the possibility that Knuckles has died. If he is a townie or vigilante, then that's another loss. If he's a cop, he better say so by the end of this round and fess up which people he investigated so we know who is who, so that we know when and if he is revealed to be a cop, who to target with the next vote. If he's a mafioso role, then that's one down for the town. He screwed up late last round because with absolute conviction, he said Xhin was a mafia when in fact he was our dear doctor.

However, I will say it was my intent to make you all believe I was the cop. It was meant to be a first line of defense for the real cop.

In the case that you really are a townie or vigilante, then you really screwed yourself and us by saying what you said about Xhin. The mafia knows who is mafia and who is a townie. It would not benefit them when they know an innocent townie is being lynched when another townie insinuates that the doctor is mafia.

March 23, 2012
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LLight

TBH I don't think we even need to prepare for the possibility of Knukles/Roxas being townies. Before, I used to think it was at least remotely possible that Knukles could be a townie, but after seeing his recent posts along with Roxas's, I have little doubt in my mind that they're both mafia.

Roxas voting for himself being the most suspicious thing. If he was a townie, he wouldn't give up like that. Just look at the first game on the forum: he tried hard as heck to convince people that he was town-sided when people called him suspicious. If he was town-sided, there's no way he would want people to kill him over Knukles.

March 23, 2012
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MajorasMask9

If you guys are full fledged convinced that Knukles and I are both Mafia, why put off the inevitable? At his point in time, there is no changing your minds until it is too late. There really is no way to prove in these games now that I am town-sided. But hey, at this point we'll be losing any way. And how does it not make sense to sacrifice myself for somebody who followed with MY vote when we are both innocent of everything? We fucked up, yes. But last round, as I stated, LLight wanted theories and I decided to post one this round and that makes me suspicious. Yes, I misread LLight's first post where he was saying chief and Black Yoshi (though I have my SEVERE doubts about the latter) being town sided. So by all means, VOTE ME OUT INSTEAD OF KNUKLES. I stated I started the votes again Xhin, and I admit that I fucked up with that. I had suspicions of Xhin being Mafia (unfortunately that was not true) at the start of the game, but why would I wait to vote for him in the second round and not the first when I was suspicious of him? We're falling like flies, and if you guys want to continue swinging your flyswatters at anything that buzzes near your face, you will lose faster than a minor league team against the Yankees.

March 23, 2012
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`Roxas`

I group you and knuckles together. so if it turns out he was a townie, then you are probably a townie too; if knuckles was a townie, you wont be voted out.

March 23, 2012
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CtR Black

Let's hope the vigilante and Mafia see it that way too. And I can't say I blame you there.

March 23, 2012
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`Roxas`

It doesn't make sense for you to die for your theory at this point in time. I haven't even considered it yet. tbh atm bbq, I'd vote for other people first so if your reason is "because I voted for Xhin first", it's still not indicative of any role. If you want to suicide, you make bigger accusations than a subtle thing like that.

TBH I don't think we even need to prepare for the possibility of Knukles/Roxas being townies.

I said prepare for the possibility that Knuckles dies. I was just going over what it would reveal if he was any of those particular roles. Of course we won't know that until he dies.

March 23, 2012
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LLight

I will probably vote for somebody else, but aren't y'all going back to what got us in trouble in the first game (obviously this time is different) by voting for Knukles? I mean, I understand the reasoning, but is it not possible that he is innocent? Why not see where one of the theories we have actually work before getting rid of somebody who is more than likely a Townie? It just doesn't make much sense to me.

March 23, 2012
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`Roxas`

You can't try to pull the same tactics that I pulled last game because they've been patched. You're either absolutely sure and that would mean you figured out a way to tell either because you're a cop or you're me (believe me, only I can be me), but when you're wrong like that it's indicative that you are mafia. It's also likely that he's a sloppy player as per his outside game persona, but I'm fine with that if he ends up being a townie. That's too bad because we should not tolerate sloppiness. It just causes confusion when a move like that isn't executed properly and doesn't make sense. Like I said before, you better be prepared to die even if your true role is townie.

March 23, 2012
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LLight

As I've stated, I am prepared, especially after throwing names out like I did. If I have to die in order for the town to win, then so be it.

And by the "last game" reference, I mean casting a vote towards somebody and then blindly following them because that person made a mistake (namely the town taking out Feral and Kassie).

March 23, 2012
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`Roxas`

Well by my count we have about 24 hours left in the day 3 and still no word from the Cop and for that matter no word from BCB and Black Yoshi.

I know they have been to the site. BCB has posted and Black Yoshi was lurking. If you can come to the site, why can't you post.
Since BCB has posted and knows we will see it, there is imo a good chance he has been silenced. And if he's also the Cop then that may also explain why the Cop has not responded.

Now for Black Yoshi. In the first round, he posted but did not vote and in this round has been checking out the site but has not responded.

I think there may be a fox in the hen house, but which is the fox and which is the hen. For now I will give them the benefit of the doubt, but not for long.

If anybody has a different time then I have on how much time is left please post it.

March 23, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

A little under 26 hours left in the round.

March 23, 2012
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`Roxas`

No, not posting in this game when you come to the site is not the same indicator that it was when I pointed it out before the reset. The visit time is too broad and I've visited plenty without going to this game every time. Even visiting the forum and not posting isn't a good indicator unless you know which topic they're looking at.

Just had a lot of time this week because I get to work from home this week, so I won't be online as much as I have been this week. Won't have another week like this for another 4 weeks.

March 24, 2012
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LLight

I'm just gonna let you all vote me out silently like idiots. Lol.

March 24, 2012
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Knukles2000

Roxas, you're saying that we should vote for you in place of Knukles because of you being responsible for lynching Xhin. If you're really a townie, how would this benefit the town in any way? Please be detailed and give examples.

March 24, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Roxas, I can't say I understand your strategy. You seem like too smart a player to throw your own game away to save a fellow mafioso for one turn, so I'm not convinced that you're Mafia, even if Knukles is. It just doesn't make sense to me that you would go to such lengths to protect him as a Townie, though, because unless you're the Cop there's no way for you to be so sure that he's innocent. Knukles is all over the place this game and IMO the evidence against him is strong, stronger than any evidence we have against anyone else at this point. Obviously if we're wrong we'll need to re-evaluate, but I don't think we're wrong.

I'd also like to point out that we have a lot of quiet people this round, too many for them all to have been silenced. BCB, Black Yoshi, hezekiah all haven't said a word. Could be that they're just busy, but it's worth noting that both Yoshi and hezekiah were brought up as potential suspects and haven't said anything. One of those three is probably silenced, but who knows about the other two.

March 24, 2012
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white lancer

I'm not entirely convinced myself that it would give the town any substantial benefits, but if it means giving the chance that there is one more townie alive the next round (addressed in the first sentence of the next section), I'll take that chance. Why waste a turn on somebody who, while he does have quite a bit of evidence against him, otherwise has played a nearly identical strategy as myself? Yes, I realize that may insinuate that he and I are both Mafia, but why would I put that kind of target on my own and a fellow Mafia members back?

With the unlikely possibility that the Mafia AND Vigilante doesn't strike, there would still be a decent advantage for the town. Whereas, since I come out with a theory that name four suspects, two of which have said little or nothing at all this game in the main threads. I have stated that I believe Knukles is innocent and that, like me for who knows whatever reason, seems to be all over the place these last two rounds. I'm not entirely sure why I am any way.

In regards to my back and forth decision to vote for Xhin last round, I do not know for sure why I voted for him. Had I stuck with my no vote decision, he would have been saved, this assuming chief would have kept his vote for Xhin. Had I gone anywhere else with my vote, again assuming chief kept his vote for Xhin active, Xhin would have been lynched any way. Regardless, unless Xhin decided to save himself during the night round, he would have been killed by the Mafia based on the suspicions that both Knukles and I have.

I may be wrong about Helius being Mafia, but I have a strong gut feeling that both hezekiah and Black Yoshi are, even if it doesn't match up with what LLight was saying last round. It doesn't make sense that last round, when we had no information, LLight wanted theories to be tossed around from different people and I get targeted this round for posting a theory after we lose two members in the day and night rounds that just passed. But hey, vote as you wish. We still have about twenty one hours to make a final decision. I know my decision will be for either hezekiah or Black Yoshi, whether that is a popular choice or not, that is what I will stand by this day.

March 24, 2012
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`Roxas`

18 hours left.

I'm keeping my no vote, don't want two mistakes being made in a row.

March 24, 2012
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#85

Why waste a turn on somebody who, while he does have quite a bit of evidence against him, otherwise has played a nearly identical strategy as myself?

We need to vote for people that are suspicious. What would you rather do, vote for people that aren't suspicious? You say you want to avoid the mob-mentality we had in the first game, yet you openly listed people that you find suspicious and opted to lynch hezekiah, who has almost no evidence against him and could have been silenced by the mafia for all we know, meaning he wouldn't be able to defend himself.

Yes, I realize that may insinuate that he and I are both Mafia, but why would I put that kind of target on my own and a fellow Mafia members back?

So you could say this sentence.

March 24, 2012
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MajorasMask9

4 - Knukles (Majora, LLight, white lancer, CtR)
1 - hezekiah (Knuckles)
2 - no-vote (#85, Helius)
1 - Roxas (Roxas)

That's the count at the moment.

I change my vote to no vote. Roxas is a townie. It's proven by the fact of self-vote. Remember: this is a tactic that I have used to prove myself as a townie in games past. I have obviously switched to a new game strategy, and won't be doing that this round...

I don't want to jump on the band-wagon. I just don't find anyone suspicious at the moment. Except for maybe Knuckles, but I can't justify voting for him yet.

March 24, 2012
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Helius

There really is no evidence against anybody at this point. I simply stated a theory, including who I thought are Townies, the Cop and the Vigilante, NOT just those I found suspicious.

What Mafia member, when having a Cop who hasn't said much and dead Doctor, would openly state half of the Mafia? It makes absolutely no sense.

March 24, 2012
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`Roxas`

I change my vote to no vote. Roxas is a townie. It's proven by the fact of self-vote. Remember: this is a tactic that I have used to prove myself as a townie in games past. I have obviously switched to a new game strategy, and won't be doing that this round...

This isn't proven, and it isn't even a viable strategy. A townie that is suicidal and fully intent on getting themselves lynched is deadweight to the town and will be responsible for the loss of the town if they're actually serious. Nothing beneficial could possibly come from lynching Roxas if he was a townie. It wouldn't even prove Knukles's innocence if Roxas was townie.

Roxas and Knukles's actions in this day round in particular have been blatantly suspicious. I'll hope that the rest of the town will consider this, and not hesitate and second-guess themselves out of voting for Knukles when all of this evidence is piled up against both of them.

March 24, 2012
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MajorasMask9

You seem too much on the offensive for any regular townie.

My vote changes and goes to Majora.

March 24, 2012
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`Roxas`

How can a townie be too on the offensive? Obviously the mafia will try to defend themselves, it's only natural for townies to want to speak up. Not to mention you're the one that originally went after hezekiah for little to no reason, and were the first to vote for Xhin in the last round. If anything, you seem more on the offensive, but more careless in your voting. Careless for a townie, maybe not as careless for someone that's mafia and doesn't need to worry about unknown roles.

Not going to post anymore unless I see the majority shift, since we seem to be saying the same things every reply.

March 24, 2012
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MajorasMask9

And my suspicions based on his lack of interaction with the rest of us in the last Day Round doesn't count as reason?

You seem too adamant that I am Mafia when my last few posts have proven otherwise, yet you continue to do so. It would make a lot of sense if you were Mafia to continue saying so in order to have someone voted out who is innocent. That's just how I see it.

Xhin could have easily stated he was the Doctor, and to prove it save himself ever Night round, but he chose not to do so.

March 24, 2012
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`Roxas`

when my last few posts have proven otherwise

They haven't.

March 24, 2012
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MajorasMask9

You seem too adamant that I am Mafia

You're the only one that's blowing in that direction. MajorasMask has been anything but objective.

March 24, 2012
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LLight

I change my vote to no vote. Roxas is a townie. It's proven by the fact of self-vote. Remember: this is a tactic that I have used to prove myself as a townie in games past. I have obviously switched to a new game strategy, and won't be doing that this round...

You used that tactic during the redacted Game 2, when you were Mafia. So Roxas isn't necessarily a Townie, though I'm leaning that direction. I just don't think he'd be so obvious about protecting a fellow Mafia member if he were Mafia himself.

I am really confused as to why Roxas is so adamant that Knukles isn't Mafia. Knukles implied that he was the Cop so that he could get enough votes to lynch Xhin, an innocent player. He's either Mafia or a loose cannon. I'm less convinced on Roxas, but what Knukles has been doing just doesn't make sense to me unless he's Mafia. My vote for him is going to stick.

March 24, 2012
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white lancer

He also used that tactic in Game 1 when his name was being thrown about as Mafia.

I guarantee that I am town-sided.

I believe Knux is just being a loose cannon townie. But if y'all believe he's Mafia, then go ahead, I just don't think he is.

And should the Vigilante or Mafia strike me down or silence me tonight, as I would think they will, I leave this message to the town: May the best of luck be with you from here until the end.

March 24, 2012
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`Roxas`

I'm just a loose cannon. But Majora is also being suspicious, so to try to help work toward making a majority of who could be mafia, and saving myself, I vote Majora as well..

March 24, 2012
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Knukles2000

But Majora is also being suspicious, so to try to help work toward making a majority of who could be mafia, and saving myself, I vote Majora as well..

If finding evidence and asserting ideas is suspicious, then you two have been horribly suspicious since the last day round.

I just don't think he'd be so obvious about protecting a fellow Mafia member if he were Mafia himself.

If Knukles is the silencer in particular, the mafia would want to keep him alive longer. Alternatively, you could look at it as Roxas trying to act so ridiculous that he can use the "if I was mafia I wouldn't do this" card, which he's said twice in this thread so far. The argument doesn't really hold once you start saying that yourself.

March 24, 2012
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MajorasMask9

What evidence? You have been shouting nothing but we're suspicious, and naming coincidences. There is no to little evidence to your words.

Anyway, if you were mafia, you would know i'd be a townie. and you know the town would find me suspicious. And that is why I believe you may well be mafia. Because you started this trend.

March 24, 2012
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Knukles2000

He also used that tactic in Game 1 when his name was being thrown about as Mafia.

That's true. I was just pointing out that he used that tactic in both games, regardless of whether he was Mafia.

Alternatively, you could look at it as Roxas trying to act so ridiculous that he can use the "if I was mafia I wouldn't do this" card, which he's said twice in this thread so far. The argument doesn't really hold once you start saying that yourself.

That's a good point. It would also mean that Roxas could be Mafia even if Knukles was Townie, although personally I think that's probably too risky of a strategy for Roxas to play. There comes a point where you could argue that just about anything makes someone look like Mafia, as they could always be doing something to make themselves seem less suspicious. I still think Roxas is most likely town-sided, but I suppose I can't rule him out completely.

March 24, 2012
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white lancer

Even loose cannon townies are dead weight, remember that. In the last round, you wrongly asserted that lynching Xhin was in favour of the town after you assured everyone. Turns out, after he died, he was the doctor. I don't care what role you are, townie or mafia, moves like this are a danger to us all. We would benefit from lynching Knuckles even if his role is revealed to be a townie. It's a win-win vote.

Roxas on the other hand seems like he's trying to sway the votes to kill MajorasMask9. This is super highly suspicious because MajorasMask9 is one of the few people who make sense in this game.

March 24, 2012
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LLight

How so, Llight. You lose an ally, and put the mafia one step closer to outnumbering us. there is NO advantage there if you waste ammo on a townie.

March 24, 2012
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Knukles2000

I was not trying to sway any votes. I just think that Majora is being too offensive when one or two people, who are probably innocent, are being tossed in to the discussion of being Mafia. I see this as a perfect opportunity for a member of the Mafia to disguise himself even better with the town.

If your minds are made up on lynching Knux and then me, then so be it. I won't argue with your decisions.

Also, I would like to point out that BCB, Black Yoshi, and hezekiah have yet to reply, despite the latter two's names being involved in my suspicions.

March 24, 2012
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`Roxas`

To be fair, we don't know if you're innocent or not until you die. Just something for you to reconsider in the rounds to come because loose lips and incorrect theories is what will convince me to vote for you. The way you act and the way you play do not follow a logical thought process.

And thank you, we are aware of who the non-talkers are, it's a good way to blend in, but you're not convincing anyone to vote for them with the way you're talking now.

March 24, 2012
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LLight

I have just finished reading every post since day 1 (twice in fact) and while there are a lot of suspicions and finger pointing and conjuncture and people making them selves look like they may be Mafia with their comments there is still nothing that would sway me at this time.

However here is what does give me great concern.

Day 1
BCB 1 reply did not cast a vote
Black Yoshi No reply

Day 2
BCB 1 reply did not cast a vote
Black Yoshi 1 reply did not cast a vote

Day 3 with about 4 hours left
BCB No replies
Black Yoshi No replies.
And they have both made a post today in other forums.

And in hezekiah defense, he did post and vote in day 1 and 2.

So I ask myself. Do I want to vote to hang someone that at least is active and is playing the game or do I want to get rid of someone who has not been active (regardless of their role) and may or may not even want to be in the game at this point.

Now I understand rl stuff, (I've had my share in the past few week) but if you can come to the site and make a post, then why not make it here, where you signed up to play.

One of these two may be silenced and because I have no way of knowing which one and it's 50/50, I flipped a coin and cast have cast my vote for:

Black Yoshi

March 24, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

Only the Cop can have a perfect "theory." As I stated, I am prepared to die should my theory be proven wrong.

Hypothetically speaking, if Majora is Mafia, the suspicions of Knukles and myself are a perfect veil in order for him and the rest of the Mafia to get by the next round or two unscathed and only be down 7-4, pending on how the night round goes. This is my reasoning for the vote against him.

As far as hezekiah and Black Yoshi are concerned, I've had thoughts, not so much suspicions, that they may be Mafia from the start. BCB I have been back and forth until deciding he is probably town-sided and has been silenced this round.

March 24, 2012
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`Roxas`

Black Yoshi rarely posts, even outside of the game. It would benefit the mafia to keep it that way, but he hasn't even visited the site since the game started so there's no way to tell. BCB is a newbie and would benefit him to keep acting like a newbie, but neither behaviour to me is suspicious. Players like Black Yoshi should be offed by a true random generator if landed or even host killed for inactivity. I don't know, it doesn't seem fair.

March 24, 2012
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LLight

"Black Yoshi rarely posts, even outside of the game"

Then why sign up for the game?

"I don't know, it doesn't seem fair."

Agree. But letting them slide through the game inactive while we vote to get rid of someone that's taking the time to play the game. That's not fair either.

March 24, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

Well, since it's very likely that I will be lynched, i'd like to state my current suspicions.

Helius, Majora, CtR, and Black Yoshi.

It's been fun working with you all, and I know full well why you all are voting me out. Hopefully you guys can win without me.

March 25, 2012
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Knukles2000

NIGHT 3

The town, outraged by Knukles2000's actions decided to lynch him. He was hung up by the town for everyone to see. When they looked at his identification, it revealed that he was a Townie.


1. MajorasMask9
2. #85
3. Shadowwalked
4. `Roxas`
5. Feral - Townie
6. Black Yoshi
7. white lancer
8. Knukles2000 - Townie
9. BCB
10. Helius
11. Xhin - Doctor
12. chiefsonny
13. LLight
14. CtR Black
15. hezekiah


The Mafia-Town ratio is 4-8.

Godfather (1), Silencer (1), Mafioso (2), Cop (1), Vigilante (1), Townie (6).

24 hours to get night actions in.

WARNING: If your role changes to "Silenced" during the game, that means you are silenced, and are not allowed to speak! If you speak, you will be killed by a host-kill.

March 25, 2012
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Yeano

DAY 4

The next morning, the town met in their usual spot to see if anyone else had died. As expected, someone was missing. But what wasn't expected was that two people were missing. After searching for a while, the town found hezekiah's body floating in a nearby pond. Apparently someone had drowned him to death. He was the Cop. Additionally, CtR Black was found in his room with a bullet hole in his chest. Clearly, he died instantly. He was a townie.


1. MajorasMask9
2. #85
3. Shadowwalked
4. `Roxas`
5. Feral - Townie
6. Black Yoshi
7. white lancer
8. Knukles2000 - Townie
9. BCB
10. Helius
11. Xhin - Doctor
12. chiefsonny
13. LLight
14. CtR Black - Townie
15. hezekiah - Cop


The Mafia-Town ratio is 4-6.

Godfather (1), Silencer (1), Mafioso (2), Vigilante (1), Townie (5).

72 hours or 6 votes.

WARNING: If your role changes to "Silenced" during the game, that means you are silenced, and are not allowed to speak! If you speak, you will be killed by a host-kill.

March 26, 2012
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Yeano

Obviously my theory was wrong. If that means I shall be the one to be killed this day round, then so be it.

March 26, 2012
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`Roxas`

As terrible as the past day and night went, I'm convinced now that Roxas is mafia. There's no way a townie would willingly let themselves die with the ratio as it is. That would knock the ratio down to 4:5, and with a mafia kill the ratio would be 4:4, meaning game over.

Voting for Roxas.

March 26, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Assuming the Mafia doesn't strike the Vigilante, it will be 4:4. If they do, 4:3.

My vote goes to Black Yoshi.

EDIT: As far as my reasoning behind this decision, after the last day round ended, Black Yoshi replied to a thread in Pointless. Not saying that he didn't happen to get on after the round ended, but I highly doubt it.

March 26, 2012
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`Roxas`

If i dont see my role am i silenced?

Edit: sorry I did not see that. Happy That is all I said

March 26, 2012
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CtR Black

Allright, at first I tried to play by my normal game and create theories, but that was just seen as "suspicious" Not wanting to make another mistake after Xhin, I sat back as knuckles was killed. Neither way worked. Now I'm going to play my own game, a non talker. Notice how most the talkers are townies?

vote for BCB

March 26, 2012
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#85

If i dont see my role am i silenced?

No, if you're silenced, your role will be "Silenced."

Unfortunately, CtR Black, you are dead.

March 26, 2012
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Yeano

Um...wow. That was a painful night round.

Majora's right. We need to be very careful this round because a wrong vote could mean the game. Because of that, I'm going to hold off voting for now. I see a few people who could be Mafia but I'd like to hear a little more before committing to a vote. For instance, I'd love to hear something from Black Yoshi and BCB this round. I know Shadowwalked was in a car accident, but if he can get on, it might be helpful to hear from him as well. There are too many people I just don't know anything about at this stage in the game.

March 26, 2012
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white lancer

Sorry I haven't been on much, but I've been having some computer problems since I got back from tour -- my laptop's been running slower than AdmiralTrainstorm's rational mind, and has been freezing more than the North Pole in winter.

And even if it was working perfectly, I wouldn't have been able to post anyway, since I was silenced last round...

Anyway, I'm going to go with lancer on this one -- what with no more Cop or Doctor and a Vigilante who can't tell Mafia from Townies, one wrong vote could screw us over and leave the game in the Mafia's hands; thus, No Vote for now, until I get more information.

March 26, 2012
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Black Yoshi

Yeah, I was busy for the first few days and was subsequently overwhelmed by the number of replies and info I had to read. Sorry. Also, like Black Yoshi, I have been having problems with my PC and have been on mobile the whole time and hate typing long replies on mobile.

Anyway, I have had my suspicions of Roxas for awhile and think he's definitely Mafia. Roxas gets my vote.

Sorry again, I should have sat this game out as I knew I was gonna be busy for the first couple days and nights. My heart just wasn't in the game this time but since we are in severe danger of losing this game I figured its really important that I post the rest of the game.

March 26, 2012
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BCB

To protect my interest as a townie:

My vote switches BCB.

March 26, 2012
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`Roxas`

Son of a bitch...

I just realized I was silenced...after I made a post...

March 26, 2012
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BCB

I'm confused now and I withdraw my vote so I can try to figure out what happened

March 26, 2012
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#85

MID-DAY 4

After uttering some words, BCB collapsed. Dead. Goodbye, one more townie.


1. MajorasMask9
2. #85
3. Shadowwalked
4. `Roxas`
5. Feral - Townie
6. Black Yoshi
7. white lancer
8. Knukles2000 - Townie
9. BCB = Townie
10. Helius
11. Xhin - Doctor
12. chiefsonny
13. LLight
14. CtR Black - Townie
15. hezekiah - Cop


The Mafia-Town ratio is 4-5.

Godfather (1), Silencer (1), Mafioso (2), Vigilante (1), Townie (4).

March 28th at 9:10 pm or 6 votes.

WARNING: If your role changes to "Silenced" during the game, that means you are silenced, and are not allowed to speak! If you speak, you will be killed by a host-kill.

March 26, 2012
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Yeano

Back to my original theory, round 1 tossing suspicions when none were warranted, vote goes for #85.

March 26, 2012
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LLight

Switching my vote to #85.

I find it suspicious that he voted for BCB when he was silenced. Also, I still stand by what I said in the last day round: at least one or more of the people that voted for Xhin in the first day round are most likely mafia; they wouldn't pass up such an open opportunity to get an innocent person lynched. The only two people alive that did vote for Xhin in that round are #85 and Roxas. And admittedly, I find it anti-suspicious that Roxas voted for BCB after he spoke. If he was mafia, he would have known BCB was silenced and was about to die.

BCB's death put us at a huge disadvantage. We'd need perfect votes and vigilante kills to make up for it. And TBH I still have no idea what's going on this game.

March 26, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Ok BCB hasn't said anything all game, not just this round and you cant silence twice. Many have been suspicious of him before. It can't be extreme unluckiness? It was a total shot in the dark against a non talker (of which there are like 3) not against BCB. I didn't go after knukles like the rest of you.

March 26, 2012
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#85

Just to let you know... I am Mafia and Llight is as well. I have mislead you and have decided to end my game the way that I decide. I want to give you guys an advantage over us so it can play out as it was supposed too.

March 26, 2012
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Helius

"what with no more Cop or Doctor and a Vigilante who can't tell Mafia from Townies,"

Easy to come in on day 4 and start throwing stones. What have you contributed to the game except excuses.
And now a no vote. Now that's going out on a limb.

March 26, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

"Just to let you know... I am Mafia and Llight is as well"

Ok. Then you should know this.
Why did the mafia try to take out LLight if he is one of their own?
They had no way of knowing who the Doc was or that he would save LLight.

Why not give us all the Mafia names and let us decided which one to take out.

March 26, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

You guys were blinded by Llight and me... we played a pretty good game against you. You guys didn't notice what Llight was doing. If you read all of his posts, you will realize that we did target one of our own this time around. It was fool-proof because everyone was angry with Llight. He was the obvious choice to be saved by Xhin. Now a list of quotes by Llight (primarily)

I'll start off by saying that everything here can be considered false until proven otherwise, so we should stick to truths that we know we can verify.

First question, why are first round votes bad? You have a 36% chance of killing a mafioso while the mafioso has a 91% chance of killing a townie role the next round. It's 91% because there's a 1/11 chance of the doctor saving that person. Not counting the other roles like WG and Vigilante...

That said, I'll spin on CtR Black.

I'd say I pissed off a lot of people before the reset, so I'm still likely to die. It's up to you guys. Still an all powerful townie here... Good luck.

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It's not very well thought out, but worth a shot. Looks like a lot of people are fans of the no vote policy though. Are you feeling lucky? No one has really explained why other than that they don't like it.

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Haha anyone who says anything in this game can be considered suspicious, but all the suspicion accusations are utter bullshit in the first round. You can talk the most shit and it won't prove a damn thing. A first round no vote does not benefit the town at all. You're letting the special role townies and the mafia get the first jump on you

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If the cop dies and makes a vote, then it's probably a good idea to vote for the person they voted for... Of course even if you claimed to be a cop, there's no reason for anyone to believe you, so that's kind of moot.

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So either the Mafia is throwing us off - Roxas after Llight didn't die

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The mafia would not target their own.

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To knock off you [Ctr Black] and #85. Are you okay with that? Roles only get revealed when you die. If he ends up not being mafia, then we can re-evaluate our choices.

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I was right in my reasoning since I accurately pointed out 3/4 of the mafia where the last one fell into place because of one perturbed individual.

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It's equally as reasonable to blend in with your own pattern from previous games to mask the possibility that you are a mafioso.

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This is the type of game we're playing. I would have made a good cop this game because after almost getting killed, there should be little reason to suspect that I am mafia.

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If there is any flaw in this observation, then it is because there's no way to verify these stories as true.

And just to be clear, you are less convinced that I am mafia.

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And for MajoraMask9's last post where he mentions the silencer could target one of their own is also a viable mafia strategy, but if you do it based on probability, then it won't matter if the person is silenced or not.

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The only absolute truths are through death, probability, and identifying who has done what (such as non-talkers, no voters, and who voted for who).

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Xhindings, you're only useful until I break the game, but for now, if you're that confident that your death will prove something, then vote for yourself to assure your own death.

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Case in point, as someone who claims to be a townie or any other role should be prepared to die to prove it.

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Do you not see my vote on your name this round? People are idiots who say I make sense, but then don't go with my plans. Mafia interference or undecided people? Sown seeds of doubt can't be forgotten.

And yeah, it's possible and a viable strategy. I'm only saying that to convey the idea that anything anyone says here can and should be considered bullshit. Maybe it's a shot in the foot, but it's a step closer to deciding which ideas we can consider the truth. If it's possible for something to be true, then it can and will be. The only way to prove it is by the means outlined above. I'm also okay if you think you're sure that I'm a townie. If that'll make you trust me more, then great, vote for my plan.

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The idea is that if your opinion can be proven wrong, then don't post it and die.

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You realize, if what you say is true, then you have ensured your own death with the above post.

March 26, 2012
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Helius

Then again, if 85 was Mafia he would have known BCB was silenced in the first place and voted elsewhere.

Looking back on previous rounds, Roxas does seem quite adamant that he's a Townie; there's no reason he should be stating that he's a Townie in every single one of his posts unless he's Mafia and trying to throw us off of his trail. Thus my vote goes to Roxas.

March 26, 2012
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Black Yoshi

And here's another question boys and girl's.
What the since of having a Cop role if he/she never gives us any info?
After three round's(he in this case) would have had time to check out at least a couple people.

It may have made our job's a little easier since that role is the only info link we have since unlike the mafia, we don't know shit about who's who.

March 26, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

I only switched my vote to BCB because I had two votes going against me to his one.

Vote switches to #85.

Should you be town-sided... Well, game over for all of us.

March 26, 2012
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`Roxas`

At this point and it may change, I'm voting for the person that has pointed more fingers at more people then anyone else in the game. And has been wrong (or right if you're mafia)every time.

Vote for

MajorasMask9

March 26, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

"and you cant silence twice"
-#85

I'd love to know where you heard that; the role information page says nothing like that :).

At this point and it may change, I'm voting for the person that has pointed more fingers at more people then anyone else in the game. And has been wrong (or right if you're mafia)every time.

Pointed fingers at three people, proven wrong once. I think you blew that a bit out of proportion ;).

March 26, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Twice in a row

March 26, 2012
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#85

I knew what you meant! Would still like to know where you heard that. Never heard of that restriction until you mentioned it, and you definitely sound sure of it.

Then again, if 85 was Mafia he would have known BCB was silenced in the first place and voted elsewhere.

If he was aware that BCB was silenced, and was using inactivity as a reason to vote for BCB, then that would be the perfect way to get them lynched. BCB would have no way to defend himself against any accusations that would be thrown at him.

Just to let you know... I am Mafia and Llight is as well. I have mislead you and have decided to end my game the way that I decide. I want to give you guys an advantage over us so it can play out as it was supposed too.

I find it very hard to believe this. If #85 is actually mafia like I assume, that would mean LLight voted for someone that is mafia in the beginning of this round. With the ratio as it is, and with the accusations going around as they had been (with Roxas or myself looking like the most-likely to be lynched), I don't think LLight would want to vote for a member of the mafia if he was mafia. That on top of him being targeted on Night 1 doesn't add up. If I was mafia, I don't think there'd ever be a situation where I'd think it would be smart to risk it and guess who the doctor will protect. Nothing mentioned in the day round indicated LLight was particularly in danger of being voted for. I'll admit, he could have been privately messaging Xhin, but I doubt Xhin would have revealed to LLight that he was the doctor.

Though I won't doubt your claim that you're mafia.

March 26, 2012
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MajorasMask9

I know in the first game and the cancelled game two, somewhere in the rules said a person couldn't be silenced two days in a row.

March 26, 2012
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`Roxas`

Well this is all I'm gonna say. You are making a mistake. I didn't jump on the vote knukles or vote Roxas train because I tried to take out a non talker (which I had been talking about forever) and I picked the one that talked the absolute least, it was between him and yoshi. Wouldn't a mafia try to blend in? Whatever the games gonna be hard for us when the mafia have 4 and so do the town. My advice : think and not be sheep

I'm still really confused, and this is probably pointless, but I vote for Helius, who said he is mafia. Unless he's pulling a poptart, I guess he's not lying.

March 26, 2012
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#85

Not convinced, but interesting spin nonetheless. So definitely mafia are now Helius and #85. CtR Black was quick to defend #85 in round 1 with the same folly. (realizes CtR is dead XD).

To be honest I always thought I was targeted in the first round because I caused the game to be reset with my "detective work". chiefsonny was one of those still alive who were particularly peeved about it.

March 26, 2012
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LLight

I'm gone for a day and all hell breaks loose, haha.

Casting my vote for #85 as well. I've been leery of him from the start, and it does seem suspicious that he was trying to sway the votes to a silenced player.

ETA: And Helius is almost certainly Mafia as well. Either that, or he's even more of a loose cannon than Knukles.

March 26, 2012
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white lancer

It's a late game play trying to save #85 because I was right from the beginning. If we vote out a townie, it makes our numbers even, then in the night round they kill off another townie and they gain majority. After that the game is in the bag for the mafia.

March 26, 2012
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LLight

I am a loose cannon and a poor player. I did say in the very first game that I would throw out a wild conspiracy theory (mainly cause I was being targeted). It only makes sense to accuse another of being Mafia and oneself to draw out the real mafia.

Though I have destroyed my credibility. Llight isn't Mafia (as far as I can tell), and well... I'm not even going to bother defending why I'm a townie.

And if you were mafia once in any of the previous games or read the threads after the fact, you know the silencer cannot silence the same person two days in a row.

That being said (I never officially casted a vote) so I cast my vote for Majora's Mask

March 26, 2012
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Helius

Vote to kill #85 - LLight, MM9, Roxas, white lancer
Vote to kill Roxas - Black Yoshi
Vote to kill MM9 - chiefsonny, Helius
Vote to kill Helius - #85
Not yet voted - Shadowwalked

Helius isn't a loose cannon like Knuckles, so I say that claim is full of shit. You RP in Jedi Sith and have a better head on your shoulders than say someone who is easily riled like Knuckles. You are a writer and this is your out of game persona. It does not fit the loose cannon you claim to be.

March 27, 2012
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LLight

As a writer, I also get into my roles. ;) Though all of my roles have recurring themes.

March 27, 2012
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Helius

I guess I'm voting for 85

March 27, 2012
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Shadowwalked

Well, since discussion has seemed to halt, if no vote changes by 9:00 PM Eastern Time (Server Time), tonight, I will end the day round at that time.

Good luck to everyone playing! {:D}

March 27, 2012
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Yeano

Seeing as there has been no discussion in the past 23 hours, I am calling the round early!

NIGHT 4


With a majority of the votes cast against him, the town decided to lynch #85! After he was dead, they found out that he was the Godfather! And so, although still a little uneasy, there was a bit more hope in the town.

1. MajorasMask9
2. #85 - Godfather
3. Shadowwalked
4. `Roxas`
5. Feral - Townie
6. Black Yoshi
7. white lancer
8. Knukles2000 - Townie
9. BCB = Townie
10. Helius
11. Xhin - Doctor
12. chiefsonny
13. LLight
14. CtR Black - Townie
15. hezekiah - Cop


The Mafia-Town ratio is 3-5.

Silencer (1), Mafioso (2), Vigilante (1), Townie (4).

24 hours to get in night actions.

WARNING: If your role changes to "Silenced" during the game, that means you are silenced, and are not allowed to speak! If you speak, you will be killed by a host-kill.

March 28, 2012
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Yeano

DAY 5

Once again, two people were missing. LLight, the townie, was found rolled up in a carpet on the outskirts of town. He was dead.

Additionally, Black Yoshi was found, shot through his head. He was the Silencer.

1. MajorasMask9
2. #85 - Godfather
3. Shadowwalked
4. `Roxas`
5. Feral - Townie
6. Black Yoshi - Silencer
7. white lancer
8. Knukles2000 - Townie
9. BCB = Townie
10. Helius
11. Xhin - Doctor
12. chiefsonny
13. LLight - Townie
14. CtR Black - Townie
15. hezekiah - Cop


The Mafia-Town ratio is 2-4.

Mafioso (2), Vigilante (1), Townie (3).

72 hours or 4 votes or no discussion for 18+ hours.

WARNING: If your role changes to "Silenced" during the game, that means you are silenced, and are not allowed to speak! If you speak, you will be killed by a host-kill.

March 29, 2012
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Yeano

Also, just to be clear...

Vigilante kill takes precedence over mafia actions. In other words, Black Yoshi was killed before any mafia actions could take place.

March 29, 2012
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Yeano

Alright, so we got the Godfather and the Silencer in one round. We're still close to the edge, but I think we may just have this one. Voting for Helius for his shenanigans last round.

March 29, 2012
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white lancer

Gee, I wonder who the two remaining mafia people are.

Vote to kill Roxas - Black Yoshi
Vote to kill MM9 - chiefsonny, Helius
Vote to kill Helius - #85

Since #85 and Black Yoshi were both Mafia, I think it is safe to assume that chiefsonny and Helius are the final two.

With all votes to chiefsonny today, and a vigilante execution of Helius tonight, I do believe that the game has been won.

That being said, my vote goes to chiefsonny.

March 29, 2012
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Shadowwalked

Ah, go ahead and switch my vote to Helius then. I was still typing and didn't see that white lancer had posted.

March 29, 2012
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Shadowwalked

Helius.

March 29, 2012
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`Roxas`

Should chief and Helius be the last two of the Mafia, now it's a matter of whether or not the Vigilante wants to reveal himself to the town.

March 29, 2012
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`Roxas`

Well, is it Chief? Honestly? Last round, Llight was accusing 'Roxas' of being a Mafia member and look where he is ... dead. I cannot take credit alone for this, but I'll let you decide if I am Mafia or not. All I can tell you that is that two townies will die tonight.

March 29, 2012
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Helius

Last round, Llight was accusing 'Roxas' of being a Mafia member and look where he is ... dead.

Looking back on previous rounds, Roxas does seem quite adamant that he's a Townie; there's no reason he should be stating that he's a Townie in every single one of his posts unless he's Mafia and trying to throw us off of his trail. Thus my vote goes to Roxas

I see no difference between these posts. Both appear to be clear cut fear-mongering, one of which we know for certain was (Since it was revealed that Black Yoshi was mafia).

Not convinced, but interesting spin nonetheless. So definitely mafia are now Helius and #85.

Funny, that the same person who was convinced that the two people who were "Definitely mafia" is now dead.

March 29, 2012
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Shadowwalked

To add on to my last post:

Or the vigilante can just stay quiet and not use his power at night in case one of those two are not Mafia and a townie gets taken out at night so that there is still a three to one advantage. Although at this point, it's pretty clear cut that they are.

March 29, 2012
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`Roxas`

Voting for Helius, for reasons stated in the last round and above in this round.

I also agree that chiefsonny is most likely to be the final mafioso. The only thing that really made me think otherwise at first was his vote for Black Yoshi back in Day 3. In retrospect it makes sense though: Black Yoshi was inactive for the entire game and was the mafia silencer. It was obvious that nobody was silenced in the first two rounds, so Black Yoshi would have been deadweight to the mafia. Chiefsonny was clearly miffed that Black Yoshi was inactive; if chief was mafia, getting Black Yoshi voted out and showing up as the Silencer would be a good way to clear his name while not really sacrificing much.

Maybe I'm overthinking that but beating chiefsonny to the punch if he decides to bring up his Black Yoshi vote!

March 30, 2012
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MajorasMask9

NIGHT 5

60% of the vote was made to lynch Helius, and so it was done! He was a mafioso!

1. MajorasMask9
2. #85 - Godfather
3. Shadowwalked
4. `Roxas`
5. Feral - Townie
6. Black Yoshi - Silencer
7. white lancer
8. Knukles2000 - Townie
9. BCB - Townie
10. Helius - Mafioso
11. Xhin - Doctor
12. chiefsonny
13. LLight - Townie
14. CtR Black - Townie
15. hezekiah - Cop


The Mafia-Town ratio is 1-4.

Mafioso (1), Vigilante (1), Townie (3).

24 Hours to Night Act!

March 30, 2012
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Yeano

DAY 6

The town has shrunken significantly. Only 3 people remain. Found dead this morning were MajorasMask9, killed by being shot in the heart. He was a Townie. Also, `Roxas` was killed by blunt force trauma to the back of his head. He was a Townie.

1. MajorasMask9 - Townie
2. #85 - Godfather
3. Shadowwalked
4. `Roxas` - Townie
5. Feral - Townie
6. Black Yoshi - Silencer
7. white lancer
8. Knukles2000 - Townie
9. BCB - Townie
10. Helius - Mafioso
11. Xhin - Doctor
12. chiefsonny
13. LLight - Townie
14. CtR Black - Townie
15. hezekiah - Cop


The Mafia-Town ratio is 1-2.

Mafioso (1), Vigilante (1), Townie (1).

The round will end in 48 hours!

No matter what happens, this is the last round.

April 1, 2012
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Yeano

What happens if there is a tie?

1 townie and 1 mafia left standing

April 1, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

The game is over when either...

1) The Mafia equals or outnumbers the town, or
2) The town kills off all of the members of the Mafia

from [d:229].

That means if it is one of each standing, the mafia automatically wins.

April 1, 2012
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Yeano

Alright, so I'm a little surprised Majora or Roxas got killed by the Vigilante, but my guess is that's because chief himself is the Vigilante. So unless I'm wrong about that, Shadowwalked is Mafia and my vote goes to him.

April 1, 2012
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white lancer

What the fuck? This game should have been over. 'Roxas' and Majoras was both so clearly townies that it makes my fucking head spin that we've even continued to this round. Either the vigilante was working with the mafia or he's a goddamned dumb.

Alright, so I'm a little surprised Majora or Roxas got killed by the Vigilante, but my guess is that's because chief himself is the Vigilante. So unless I'm wrong about that, Shadowwalked is Sith and my vote goes to him.

No, not even. This is fucking absurd. If you're the last mafia I'm going to be so pissed that it wasn't chiefsonny because it means my prediction was half off. My vote goes to you, just because this has officially pissed me off.

Honestly, why target 'Roxas'. Because of what Helius said? Wasn't it already determined that he was the Mafia? Why would you ever take his word seriously? It was fear-mongering in its purest form, and you fucked it up, vigilante. You fucked it up hard.

Seriously chiefsonny, if you're the vigilante I'm so goddamned pissed. That was just a fucking stupid move. And White Lancer, if you're the vigilante, that would be even more goddamned stupid.

April 1, 2012
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Shadowwalked

Seriously vigilante, what the actual fuck. I hate you so much right now, and my only concern is that I'll never be able to hate you enough for what you've done.

April 1, 2012
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Shadowwalked

"I hate you so much right now, and my only concern is that I'll never be able to hate you enough for what you've done."

It's a just a game stupid. Stop acting like your brother just screwed your girl friend.

April 1, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

"Seriously chiefsonny, if you're the vigilante I'm so The Flying Spaghetti Monsterdamned pissed. That was just a fucking stupid move."

Kind of reminds you of fake car accidents.

April 1, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

I'm now confident that Shadowwalked is the last Mafia. If he were the Vigilante, he would have owned up to it in that last post, so chief must be the Vigilante and Shadow must be the last Mafia.

It doesn't make sense to me that you'd be this pissed off about it or that you'd even suggest that I could be the Vigilante after my last post, at least not if you were a Townie. Seems like a pretty obvious smokescreen to me.

April 1, 2012
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white lancer

I'm now confident that Shadowwalked is the last Sith. If he were the Vigilante, he would have owned up to it in that last duck, so chief must be the Vigilante and Shadow must be the last Sith.


What? I never said I was a vigilante, you fear-mongering dumb. I made it clear that I was the townie since the very goddamned beginning.

It doesn't make sense to me that you'd be this pissed off about it or that you'd even suggest that I could be the Vigilante after my last duck, at least not if you were a Jedi. Seems like a pretty obvious smokescreen to me.

Honestly, I'm not even sure what you're trying to say here. Xhin replacing a word with "Duck" is throwing me all off. The only reason I wanted to think that you were the vigilante was so that my prediction would be correct, but if that's the case you must carry the albatross of being a hopeless goddamned dumb.

And why would I be pissed off?

Because night five should have been the last round.

We were so goddamned in the clear that it makes my head spin how it could even be fucked up.

I'm gritting my teeth saying it, but if you're the last mafia, you're pretty goddamned clever. Voting three of your teammates out is the best smokescreen you can fucking pull, and it's already clear that our vigilante is easily manipulated by fear-mongering. Hopefully he doesn't fuck up a second time, otherwise I'm requesting an IQ test for all participants.

April 1, 2012
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Shadowwalked

What? I never said I was a vigilante, you fear-mongering dumb. I made it clear that I was the Jedi since the very The Flying Spaghetti Monsterdamned beginning.

I know you never said you were the Vigilante. That's why I'm so convinced that you're the last Mafia--because if chief is Vigilante, then he's not Mafia, and since I'm not Mafia then you have to be. Process of elimination.

And anyway, your anger is so over-the-top over a game like this that I can't think of anything you'd be trying to do with it anyway other than use it to try to deflect the votes elsewhere. You're just trying to act all pissed because you think it'll make you seem more innocent, and you're pretty much grasping at straws with the argument that I voted for all the Mafia. I voted for #85 and Helius, same as you did, and I voted for them because they were pretty obviously Mafia.

And yeah, Xhin's little tricks are making this a little ridiculous.

April 1, 2012
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white lancer

I know you never said you were the Vigilante. That's why I'm so convinced that you're the last Sith--because if chief is Vigilante, then he's not Sith, and since I'm not Sith then you have to be. Process of elimination.

Except you are the last mafia, and you're fucking ruse wouldn't have worked if our vigilante wasn't so easily manipulated by other mafia. Seriously, why would Roxas or Majora even be targeted. That's just goddamned redundant.

And anyway, your anger is so over-the-top over a game like this that I can't think of anything you'd be trying to do with it anyway other than use it to try to deflect the votes elsewhere.

No, my anger is over the top because I've been drinking, the vigilante fucked up, and this entire website has been put through fucking google translate.

You're just trying to act all pissed because you think it'll make you seem more innocent, and you're pretty much grasping at straws with the argument that I voted for all the Sith.

HAHAH LOOK AT ME, I'M MAKING CLEVER ARGUMENTS BECAUSE I'M A SITH HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA SITH REALLY EQUALS MAFIA BUT NOT REALLY BECAUSE AUTOWORDCHANGE YO

I voted for #85 and Helius, same as you did, and I voted for them because they were pretty obviously Sith.

Because it's the best smokescreen that you can fucking throw, and it's the only reason why I thought you were the last mafia and not cheifsonny.

That's really what it's down to, isn't it?

Two people with more than two brain cells fighting each other, and a vigilante frantically deciding who to vote for.

And yeah, Rissen's slave's little tricks are making this a little ridiculous.

Dude fuck this shit, I can't even fucking read what anyone is saying anymore.

April 1, 2012
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Shadowwalked

Chiefsonny, I swear, don't screw up this time. Vote for white lancer, it's honestly the only way we'll be able to make up for you killing off our townie last night.

April 1, 2012
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Shadowwalked

Oh shit, I didn't even realize that chiefsonny had posted a bit ago. Let me respond to him real quick..

It's a just a game stupid. Stop acting like your brother just screwed your girl friend.

You killed our townie. If we lose this game, it's on your head.

Kind of reminds you of fake car accidents.

I think I made it clear in that thread that I was at a sleep study, and that I literally had no idea that there was a thread saying I was in a car accident.

I'm not Le Carre or whoever that fag was, I really don't care if people on a website piss, moan, or cry over my death or injuries.

(Nor am I using it to get Xhin to make a site for me for free, hahhhaklaghads)

April 1, 2012
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Shadowwalked

Because it's the best smokescreen that you can fucking throw, and it's the only reason why I thought you were the last Sith and not cheifsonny.

Dude, don't even try to argue that I voted for #85 and Helius as smokescreens. You made the exact same votes as I did, so if they were smokescreens for anyone, they were for you. Except, oh yeah, you tried to lead us into voting for chiefsonny last round instead of the guy who was actually claiming to be Mafia until you changed your vote because I voted for Helius first. Now it's obvious that you tried to steer the vote in that direction because if you had convinced the town to lynch chiefsonny, you would have won the game last round.

Obviously arguing with you isn't going to do anything, since I don't need to convince you of what you already know. You've played a really good, under-the-radar game and haven't even really had to participate that much until the last couple of rounds, but there's nowhere left to hide anymore. I'm just hoping chiefsonny can see through your bullcrap.

And of course Xhin would make this entire situation more ridiculous by messing with the posts. Thanks a lot.

April 1, 2012
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white lancer

Dude, don't even try to argue that I voted for #85 and Helius as smokescreens. You made the exact same votes as I did, so if they were smokescreens for anyone, they were for you.

Except, you know, it wasn't a smokescreen for me. I voted for #85 and Helius because LLight said they were definitely Mafia.

so if they were smokescreens for anyone, they were for you.

Unless you were the last Mafia, in which voting for your own team would be your last defense and your last chance to win.

Except, oh yeah, you tried to lead us into voting for chiefsonny last round instead of the guy who was actually claiming to be Sith until you changed your vote because I voted for Helius first.

I think I made it quite clear that the reason I wanted to vote for chiefsonny was due to this:

Vote to kill Roxas - Black Yoshi
Vote to kill MM9 - chiefsonny, Helius
Vote to kill Helius - #85

Turns out my decision was only half right, and that chiefsonny just didn't trust us. I can understand why though, considering he would have realized that one of the mafia was voting for their own men.

Now it's obvious that you tried to steer the vote in that direction because if you had convinced the town to lynch chiefsonny, you would have won the game last round.


If I wanted to convince the town to lynch chiefsonny, I wouldn't have changed my vote on the turn of a dime. And I wasn't the only one suspicious of chiefsonny, both 'Roxas' and Majoras was too.

However, rather than vigilante-execute one of them in the night (Which he did) he should have just admitted that he was the vigilante, saving us the heartache. Then you would have been easy to weasel out, since you would have likely said "Oh no I'm really the vigilante", relying on your smokescreen of voting out your own members.

Obviously arguing with you isn't going to do anything, since I don't need to convince you of what you already know. You've played a really good, under-the-radar game and haven't even really had to participate that much until the last couple of rounds, but there's nowhere left to hide anymore. I'm just hoping chiefsonny can see through your bullcrap.

And I'm hoping chiefsonny doesn't fuck up a second time by actually believing you. You've played an equally good game, pulling the scenario I knew could occur, but did not want to see. He should have realized that the town was suspicious of him, and for good reason, and admitted his role, instead of playing a Xhin and having one of the best roles become a target.

And of course Rissen's slave would make this entire situation more ridiculous by spitting with the ducks. Thanks a lot.

At least I can actually understand for the most part what you're saying now. My ability to translate substituted words is greatly hindered when I'm pissed and drunk, and doesn't help to improve my mood either.

April 1, 2012
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Shadowwalked

Except, you know, it wasn't a smokescreen for me. I voted for #85 and Helius because LLight said they were definitely Sith.

Unless you were the last Sith, in which voting for your own team would be your last defense and your last chance to win.

Alright, so now you're just using the exact same arguments I used. We both voted for both of the Mafia, so don't try to twist it to make it seem as though it was a smokescreen for me.


I think I made it quite clear that the reason I wanted to vote for chiefsonny was due to this:

Vote to kill Roxas - Black Yoshi
Vote to kill MM9 - chiefsonny, Helius
Vote to kill Helius - #85

Turns out my decision was only half right, and that chiefsonny just didn't trust us. I can understand why though, considering he would have realized that one of the Sith was voting for their own men.

Of course that's why you said you voted chiefsonny. I thought chief was Mafia as well for the same reasons, but it didn't make sense for you to vote for chief first instead of Helius unless you were Mafia. Helius was obvious and chief was only a suspicion, which is why I voted Helius first--if we had voted out chief, which you wanted to do, and had been wrong, which we would have been, we would have lost. The only reason there was to vote chief first was to protect your fellow Mafia for one more round while hoping to hit the Vigilante.

If I wanted to convince the town to lynch chiefsonny, I wouldn't have changed my vote on the turn of a dime. And I wasn't the only one suspicious of chiefsonny, both 'Roxas' and Majoras was too.

You changed your vote because arguing to lynch chief when I had already gone after Helius would have looked even more suspicious. There was no reason to lynch chief before Helius and you knew that, and you had just been hoping to vote first so that the rest of us would just fall in line after you and lynch someone who was innocent.

However, rather than vigilante-execute one of them in the night (Which he did) he should have just admitted that he was the vigilante, saving us the heartache. Then you would have been easy to weasel out, since you would have likely said "Oh no I'm really the vigilante", relying on your smokescreen of voting out your own members.

XD I'm just a Townie, so no way would I pull something like that. This sounds a lot more like something you planned on doing in case suspicion fell on you for trying to lynch the real Vigilante. And like I said, #85 and Helius were obviously Mafia and that's the only reason I voted for them. You're accusing me of using a smokescreen you used yourself.

April 1, 2012
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white lancer

Alright, so now you're just using the exact same arguments I used. We both voted for both of the Mafia, so don't try to twist it to make it seem as though it was a smokescreen for me.

Because we ARE using the same exact argument.

Of course that's why you said you voted chiefsonny. I thought chief was Mafia as well for the same reasons, but it didn't make sense for you to vote for chief first instead of Helius unless you were Mafia.

I voted for chiefsonny his name was first, and Helius' name was second. Simple enough, no?

You changed your vote because arguing to lynch chief when I had already gone after Helius would have looked even more suspicious.

No, I changed my vote to Helius because it wouldn't have mattered who died first, as long as the vigilante killed the other during the night. Since chiefsonny is the vigilante, he should have admitted what he was rather than being a sneaky snake and withholding that information til literally only three goddamned people were left.

There was no reason to lynch chief before Helius and you knew that

Of course, his name was first on the list. I didn't care who died first, as long as the vigilante took the other out during the night.

nd you had just been hoping to vote first so that the rest of us would just fall in line after you and lynch someone who was innocent.

Except we had no reason to believe chiefsonny WAS innocent. He was voting for someone who was a known townie, and then he offed a known townie. It was just a grade-A act of dumb.

XD I'm just a Townie, so no way would I pull something like that.

Except you're not, because I'm the last townie, and chiefsonny is the vigilante.

This sounds a lot more like something you planned on doing in case suspicion fell on you for trying to lynch the real Vigilante.

Believe me, if I was the mafia this game wouldn't have lasted as long as it did.

And like I said, #85 and Helius were obviously Mafia and that's the only reason I voted for them.

And you're obviously mafia, because literally the only other two people are the vigilante and townie.

You're accusing me of using a smokescreen you used yourself.

We're both using the same argument. It's up to chiefsonny to decide.

April 1, 2012
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Shadowwalked

Except we had no reason to believe chiefsonny WAS innocent. He was voting for someone who was a known Jedi, and then he offed a known Jedi. It was just a grade-A act of dumb.

We didn't have a reason to believe chief was innocent, but we had no proof he was guilty either. We essentially had proof that Helius was Mafia, and so taking him out first was by far the better option because we would have lost if chief turned out to be innocent. Also, Majora's Mask and Roxas were far from known Townies. I wasn't very suspicious of them because I thought Helius and chief were the last two, but Majora was very aggressively going after Roxas even after finding out that Knukles was innocent when he could have had no proof, and Roxas was on the chopping block several times. Yes, they received votes from known Mafia members, but for all I knew those votes were last-ditch smokescreens thrown up by the Mafia we were lynching. Obviously we know now that they weren't Mafia, but chief had reasons for going after Majora last round and his vote last round was hardly proof that he was Mafia, so your attempt to steer the vote toward chief last round was a ploy to win the game for the Mafia.

Now we're pretty much going in circles in the argument, and I think I've made my points. If chief can't see that you're the last Mafia by now, I don't know what will convince him. It's your vote, chief.

April 1, 2012
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white lancer

Now we're pretty much going in circles in the argument, and I think I've made my points. If chief can't see that you're the last Mafia by now, I don't know what will convince him. It's your vote, chief.

Indeed. There is no point to me arguing with you, because you're the last mafia. No matter what I say, you're going to deny it or try to twist my words to make them something they're not.

It's up to you, chief. Whoever you killed last night, now its your time to make up for it.

April 1, 2012
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Shadowwalked

"Whoever you killed last night, now its your time to make up for it."

I don't need to make up for a god damn thing.

At least I was trying to do the job of a vigilante. We've never in any game so far that I can remember heard any reports or advice or comments from the Cop and I don't see you jumping his shit.

And I never heard you give any praise to the vigilante when he took out Black Yoshi, who was a Mafia.

No you just come on here (funny how active you are in the last round)and talk trash and make accusations about how other people fucked up the game.

Well, screw you. How's this for evil, Evil dude?

Vote for Shadowwalked

And if I'm wrong again. So be it. Mafia won. Next game.

God that felt good.

April 1, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

Is this everyone's final vote? If both chiefsonny and white lancer confirm their votes as final, I will end the round early.

April 2, 2012
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Yeano

That's mine.

April 2, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

I don't need to make up for a god damn thing.

If you don't make up for failure, you'll be a failure.

At least I was trying to do the job of a vigilante. We've never in any game so far that I can remember heard any reports or advice or comments from the Cop and I don't see you jumping his shit.

From what I heard, the cop was silenced, and the only person he was able to reveal was #85 (Who came up as a townie). I would have jumped his shit had he, for example, declared someone who was innocent to be guilty. Or had an innocent killed off.

And I never heard you give any praise to the vigilante when he took out Black Yoshi, who was a Mafia.

You would have been praised, had you not negated it entirely by killing one of the two most obviously townies in the game.

We were all suspicious of you. You did nothing to alleviate that suspicion, opting instead to remain silent (Seriously, the most suspicious thing you could have done in ANY scenario).

No you just come on here (funny how active you are in the last round)and talk trash and make accusations about how other people fucked up the game.

Because I'm a townie. I'm active when I'm in a role that requires my activity, I'm passive when I'm in a role that requires patience.

Well, screw you. How's this for evil, Evil dude?

That's not being evil, that's just being dumb. Evil is evil for evils sake, you're just doing something stupid because your feelings are hurt.

And if I'm wrong again. So be it. Mafia won. Next game.

God that felt good.

Oh boo fucking hoo. Honestly, you're like what, fifty? Don't we mature with age?

I suspected you, yes. We had every reason TO be suspicious of you.

And now you're handing the Mafia a victory, because mean old Shadowwalked called you out on your shitty choice.

I mean honestly, I wasn't expecting much else. I figured either:

1) You would be manipulated by fear mongering (Again)

2) You would vote for me because wahh I hurt your feelings, how dare he call me out on my shitty choice.

Anyway, grats White Lancer, you played all the cards right for a Mafia, and it makes me proud to see someone so conniving and bastardly.

April 2, 2012
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Shadowwalked

I mean, really. You threw an entire goddamned game, when we could have had such a glorious victory.

April 2, 2012
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Shadowwalked

My vote is final as well.

April 2, 2012
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white lancer

END OF GAME

With two votes, Shadowwalked was lynched. He was a townie. Seeing that no one could stop him now, white lancer quickly drew his gun and shot chiefsonny, killing him. He was the Vigilante.

white lancer walked away from the now empty town. He had succeeded in killing all others. The mafia was victorious this time.

1. MajorasMask9 - Townie
2. #85 - Godfather
3. Shadowwalked - Townie
4. `Roxas` - Townie
5. Feral - Townie
6. Black Yoshi - Silencer
7. white lancer - Mafioso
8. Knukles2000 - Townie
9. BCB - Townie
10. Helius - Mafioso
11. Xhin - Doctor
12. chiefsonny - Vigilante
13. LLight - Townie
14. CtR Black - Townie
15. hezekiah - Cop


The Mafia-Town ratio is 1-0.

Mafioso (1).

The game is over. The Mafia has won!

Player scores will be updated within the next week.

April 2, 2012
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Yeano

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