Mafia

Well, that was an interesting kill.

Hi Lady Flare.

Hi Speed. You've had me fooled for most of the game. Great Game!

I'm gonna wait for Cas before I decide.

To my two fellow townies, you'd better start convincing me if you want to live. I'm listening and have my paper and pen in hand.

Precisely why Lady Flare is my top suspect but for aforementioned reasons, I am not going to rush into a vote quite yet and I think we should hold a bit more discussion instead of jumping right into votes.

-Door slams open-

GUYS I KNOW WHO IT IS IT'S

-Falls over, ninja sword protruding from back-

Alright, who ever killed MY Dooku will have to PAY.

Lady Flare is a quality player, which is why I am alarmed by her actions the last couple of rounds. Last round, she started the Bandit bandwagon by saying she had a prediction. A full day and night passed before we heard from her again, and now it's to start a bandwagon against me. It's not so much who she voted for but how she's doing it. We were in a position to afford a mislynch last day round so some recklessness isn't too bad but the fact that she immediately jumped all over me on the final round where we lose if we mislynch says a lot.

Dooku was probably the best option to have been killed last night, at least personally speaking, because I have a much easier time narrowing down Lady Flare/Castrael as opposed to a situation like Lady Flare/Count Dooku.

That being said, I would like to lynch Lady Flare today but I'd also like to hear from everyone first and wait until we agree before I cast my vote.

Let's look at Lady Flare's highlights, shall we? This is why I believe her to be The Replacement

Day 1

1:00a
Can someone clarify the Oracle for me.

So the Oracle picks someone each night. If the Oracle is night killed that night the role and the name of the person they picked will be revealed to the Town. This could be a double edged sword. It would be great if the Oracle picked a Mafia player. But what if they pick a Town power role and die? That person gets a big target painted on them. And if it's the Tracker, the Nurse could protect them, but the Tracker would also be roleblocked. And if it's the Nurse, they can't protect themself.

12:55a
I'm changing my vote to No Kill. I have a lot of stuff happening in RL. I'm going to really try to keep up with the game but I'll have to see how things go. - Sorry chicka, but no one makes excuses during Mafia. But, I am sorry for your loss.

Day 2


She becomes rather quiet during these time frames. This is central time so please be mindful of that. I think Speed is rather quiet when he's a Townie and in the name of Apollo, he does help out.

Day 2

From Apollo:
So IDK. It's possible Lady Flare is Mafia and maybe they checked Feral last night to see his role and she's like "fudge it let's lynch him", but I don't feel like that's the case. The players I didn't mention I either am simply not particularly suspicious of and/or feel like I was able to get a somewhat-kinda-maybe decent read off of them to assume that they're less likely Mafia than Town. It doesn't mean I won't feel differently in the next day, or even the next hour.

If I need to post more then I will. I don't want to annoy with long posts. lol

*not quiet

sorry

Keep in mind that Lady Flare would not have been mafia until Day 3 and this was quoted from Day 2. It would be much better to look at opinions of Lady Flare from Day 3 and beyond. For example, let's look at Round 6, shall we?





Bandit and Dooku, both of whom were townies.

Ah, right, I keep forgetting. Let me look again

I'm going to stop there for now and make a new post. These things get long. I'm astarting to get my Mafia vibe on Speed again.

Well, it's sorta a vibe. Lady Flare seems a bit more Townie self, but I am still leaning towards her.

Wat. Please explain so it can be squashed.

Just briefly sorting through your quotes, I found this one interesting:



Sounds an awful lot like what she did last round. And also Count Dooku was a townie lest we forget.

Day 4
At day 4 she lynched the The Bandit but then she lynches for Bubba, with a blank reply. It's possible Bubba told her to lynch him to be less suspicious of.

I did too, but that's only because I was ahem, deceived.

Sounds an awful lot like what she did last round. And also Count Dooku was a townie lest we forget.
^Yes, that one struck me the most. The way she plays, she tries to find the best strategy against her own players and fools us. At least, in my opinion.

Hi Speed. You've had me fooled for most of the game. Great Game!
^Her most recent reply. I'd like to talk about. Is she trying to make you look suspicious again or are the last remaining Mafia. Let's take a look at Speed's high lights.

Speed was awfully quiet during Rounds 1 thur 3. He had his usual jokes. etc etc. But, then right when The Replacement comes around, his style just sorta changes. He's done this quite a few times, actually. I mean, no one likes a Townie role, and the Replacement was pretty useless until he found the right person to change into.

Excuse my grammar errors, plz.

Or, thought he did. Then again, it's Redack and I don't think she would have become Redack's previous role.

I don't know how else to explain it. I mean... Apollo died. Justice had to be restored to a Justice-less world, if you catch my drift here.

Please list the times my style has "just sorta changed" though, I'm pretty curious about that one.

Jan 22nd:
Day 1:

You thought I was Mafia. So, you tried to lynch me, but that's nothing to be suspicious of.

Jan 23: (night round)
Then, you became quiet and kept changing your names. Since Apollo was around, she basically did most of her work.

Day 2
Again, nothing.

Jan 27, 9:17a
sorry, I've been busy - Speed

You did get a bit defensive when I thought Apollo was Mafia. As if you knew she wasn't.

But, you didn't get too detailed.

Day 3
When The Replacement takes over Redack, Apollo dies and you became more active.

AS IF you guys had an OOG discussion. You thought Redack was just a Townie and I mean who doesn't want to be Redack? You knew Apollo had to be innocent so you took that with you when you become Mafia and the best thing to do, was to kill the best darn player.

Right, Lady Flare?

ahem, scratch the OOG discussion part, cuz IDK OKAY

The names were jokes that matched the train theme. Hindenburg was the first to bring up getting a Crystal Star and Jo Nathan continued it by mentioning the Smorg, both coming from Chapter 6 of Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door. I was changing my name to the names of characters from that particular chapter for all my fellow Paper Mario lovers.



I actually already discussed this with Bandit on Day 5, I think it was. That post was a joke because immediately before it, Jo made a remark about people saying "sorry, I've been busy". I poked a little fun his way by posting that exact message right afterwards.



If you're talking about the homework thing, that was a joke as well. You said something about her doing something whenever she's mafia so I took a playful jab and said something along the lines of "doing what, her homework?" and then we all shared a hearty chuckle and high fived and the next round of drinks were on me.



I became more active because the balance of justice had become greatly warped and killing Apollo is the mafia's surefire way of asking for death, which I will happily deliver to them. If you'll notice, the first three people I pushed for were Black Yoshi (lynched), chiefsonny (nightkilled), and Bubba (lynched).

On that note, the mafia taking out chief that one night was actually super neato because it saved me the embarrassment of leading a lynch against a townie. But it's okay because I made up for it when Jo died! Weehaw!

Hi, I'm Lady Flare and no, that is not right. The Replacement's replacing and Apollo's death happened on the same night. The Replacement would not have been allowed entry into the mafia clubhouse until Day 3, unless I am misunderstanding the role priorities, and Apollo was already dead by that point.

And even if I were mafia, you think I'd kill Apollo? Please, someone hand me a paper bag, I'm gonna puke...

I want to wait for Lady Flare.

Oops, forgot to put my dramatic entrance vote. I declare, Lady Flare to be The Replacement that became Lazy Ninja. Then again, it'd probably be my embarrassment.

If I get this wrong, then.... (cry)

Yes, I agree.



*hands you a paper bag*

*vomits profusely*

Ew.

GET BACK IN THE DEAD THREAD THIS VERY INSTANT YOUNG MAN

Whoa how are you guys posting in here!? What is this madness!

I can just imagine the community in the dead thread laughing their asses off right now, knowing we are missing something obvious as Hell.

what are we missing Feral?

I wish I knew, Cas, I wish I knew.

Well, I still think Lady Flare could be Mafia... or, the Replacement, rather.

Day 3: Speed Bike Pro

When Speed was a Townie in Game 21, he was really quiet and not his usual self. That’s why I thought that game that he was Mafia. He seems to find being a Townie boring like chief and other do. So when Redack led a vote against a Mafia player he made himself look really innocent and a possible power role. This could be why Speed killed him.

My “prediction” last day round was because I knew Bandit was going to vote for me. He wanted me gone in a previous round instead of Bubba. This is why I thought he was Mafia.

or 2) attempted to steal a power role from someone (a success of sorts in this case).
^
While this interests me, I do think that's when Speed comes in. Being a Townie is quite boring indeed, but that's when the Lazy Ninja comes in. When a Power Role, you become active because well, you get to kill or protect. In this case, kill.

But, he probably thought Redack was Townie. Although, he would have no desire to kill Apollo the next day. Unless it was already planed before The Replacement came along.

But, what are you trying suggest, Flare?

*With a Power

*Lazy Ninja comes in as well.

Also, if Dooku hadn't kept his MOUTH SHUT, I wouldn't be second guessing here.

Speed Bike Pro

I don't think the Replacement knew that Apollo was nightkilled until Day 3. And all this aside. I think it's naive to think that Speed wouldn't have Apollo killed when they are on different teams. It's Mafia.

There's honestly really no need to be calling me naive. I know it's a game of Mafia.

Sooo...

I think everybody just wants this game to end, as do I.

Well, I reached my decision. Maybe I'm under estimating her, but Flare's last few replies convinced me of one thing; She is just not experienced or coniving enough to pull of what this Mafia did. And if she did, she deserves the win.

Regardless who it is, all three of you deserve huge props for awesome playing. I'm only here because I am basically booby-trapped, not because I played well.

I'm gonna be honest, I don't like being townie unless I have some sort of objective besides just killing mafia or a personal mission. I'm pretty sure I was pretty quiet in the Insomniac game up until I was tasked with the covert ops triple role claim. In the case of this game, I wasn't nearly as invested until Apollo died. People just can't be killing her and think that's okay, you feel me?



That's what I was saying. On Night 2, the Replacement would have said "i'd like to replace redack please {:3}" in their little Replacement thread and Majora would have said "You got it, bub! {8D}" while the mafia were saying "grrrr we're evil grrrr let's kill apollo {>:(}". Then on Day 3, Apollo would have been dead and the Replacement would have been mafia. They had no part in Apollo's death.

Your vote is a huge mistake because it will end the game in a loss and I'd rather not come all this way just to lose. Lady Flare has played in enough games and even in her very first game did she make a pretty noticeable impact with her efforts against the mafia. That's why I know she's a very good player and definitely better than her actions from the past couple of days. She is trying to rush the game to an end and it's one vote away from working because you've bought into it.

Odd how all of the people who directly stated that you're mafia and they would vote for you are dead now and we're only left with us two and two other people that you are capable of convincing that I'm the guilty one. Just odd is all.

I'm sorry Cas. I actually wasn't intentionally directing that "naive" at you. It was all the drama earlier on about how Speed would rather be physically sick than kill Apollo in a game. So if you took offense, I apologize.

If you think I was kidding, I think I... oh God... I'm gonna be SICK. {boo}

I'm sorry Cas. I actually wasn't intentionally directing that "naive" at you. It was all the drama earlier on about how Speed would rather be physically sick than kill Apollo in a game. So if you took offense, I apologize.
^It's ok Flare. I just dislike that word a lot, tbh. Long story.

Are we really going to have this game last a whole 72 hours? I wanna kill some Mafia.

The game can end as soon as Feral changes his vote.

Wait. how come you're not voting?

I don't think anyone noticed when I said that I wanted to have a discussion before we all voted since everyone casted their first vote before involving themselves in any kind of deliberation. Holding my vote is simply a precaution but I'll cast mine for Lady Flare once the other two, yours and Feral's, are in place.

Well, I'm hoping I'm right, but sigh. I could really just vote for you and end the game.

BUT

I'd be at fault if you end up Townie and I DON'T WANT THAT.

WHY IS THERE SO MUCH PRESSURE

You could choose to end the game right now if you wanted but I would suggest demonstrating patience over recklessness.

I realize there isn't much I could do to make you absolutely certain of my innocence but there was this post from Day 2:



I'm not saying there's a reason for everything, but I'm just sayin'.

:/ Gunna have to wait for Feral's decision

Sorry, but I find it fishy that Speed won't vote unless he is the deciding one.

Cas, if Speed votes for Flare and the round ends in a tie, we will go to day 8 without you. The Mafia has no choice but to kill you tonight, if tonight comes.

Not unless if they kill Speed. I'm not the only Townie left.

I am obvious a Townie. You are the Oracle. I'm pretty sure Mafia might kill you, but then that leaves me, Speed and Lady Flare. When Night round comes, there will be inactivity during the round. If Lady Flare sees Speed a thread, she would honestly kill him. At least, that's how I would play.

If Lady Flare is killed, then we will know it's Speed who killed her.

So, yeah, I'll probably be dead next round.

I suggest: If Lady Flare is Mafia, kill Speed. End the game.

If Speed is Mafia, kill Lady Flare, this will end the game.

If we can't come to a conclusion during this day round that is. Then again, more votes are leaning towards to Speed, so he'll die anyway, right?

*threat

It's all up to Speed honestly. I've made my vote. I'd tie it, personally and kill Mafia.

If someone is lynched today, that will be the end of the game because the ratio will be 1-1 after a nightkill and the mafia wins. If we decide to no kill, which is still a possibility, then Castrael will die tonight because:

1) Feral is the Oracle and his death would prove that Lady Flare is mafia.
2) Feral is the one that is currently voting with her so it would be easy to lynch me tomorrow.

Like.... there is 100% not a doubt in my mind that Flare would kill Castrael. We could no kill today if you wanted to see it for yourselves but I would much rather, ya know, kill Flare today and win the game.

Sorry, but I find it fishy that Speed won't vote unless he is the deciding one.

Really? And it's not fishy that Lady Flare blitzed Bandit last day round and immediately voted for me this round? What she's doing is so painfully obvious that physical discomfort literally permeates my body when you fail to see it. I suppose that, technically speaking, holding on to my vote means nothing since the game would end anyways if all 3 of you voted for me, it was moreso a demonstration of the thing I said that one time when I asked for a full discussion before casting votes. But I see that it fell on deaf ears.

What would I hope to gain by waiting to vote anyways? If I were mafia, which Flare is in this case, I would definitely vote immediately because it's a mislynch-and-lose situation and now that it's down to me or her, it essentially becomes a shouting match and she made the best play by voting first and saying "gee whizzy Speed ya sure got me!". If anything, she should be the fishy one for voting immediately in a situation where we lose the game if we don't kill the right person. She is a good player that typically shows patience with her thoughts and actions, not usually in a rush to do anything, but she is trying to rush this game to an abrupt end by lynching Bandit first, killing Dooku second, and then lynching me today. Ya know, the three people that said she's mafia.

She is just not experienced or coniving enough to pull of what this Mafia did. And if she did, she deserves the win.

Just saying but this is really terrible reasoning for your potentially game-ending vote. You are severely underestimating Lady Flare. And please don't feed me any of the "the last mafia deserves to win" poop. No, the last mafia deserves to die and we are in a position to KILL THEM. Lady Flare did well getting this far but she is so obvious oh my God and she can get her good playing points but the town deserves to win.

So whatever. I'm gonna cast my vote and it's up to you to decide whether or not Lady Flare dies or we no kill. That is, if Castrael's vote remains the same, which I hope it does because she's the only one on the right track besides me.







And now, quotes from our mysterious next contestant:





??? is Feral btw. I know you've still got it in ya, buddy. You can still change that vote. You can still win the game, we just need you on our side. Go on... Take my hand... We won't bite...

*If someone BESIDES LADY FLARE is lynched today

Okay, the game will end regardless if someone is lynched. My point is that it'll end if we mislynch because the last mafia will be able to get a nightkill afterwards and end the game but it'll still end anyways if we lynch Flare since she's the last mafia.

Just because I don't feel like dragging this out.

Either way, I once again prooved that I totally suck at this game.

Whoops!

End game-

THANK GOD

We did it, you guys... The mafia have been vanquished... This is for all of our fallen comrades... This is... for great justice... (fedup)

Watch it wind up being Cas...