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game 24 night 2 vote to kill

Posted January 25, 2014 by MajorasMask9




"There were clear signs of a struggle, and obviously, the end result was itself gruesome."

Sunday, February 9th
9:00am

Throughout the night, the passengers tried to find ways to pass the time. Some simply went to sleep, while others were too afraid. They stayed up through the night--some in their cabins, some in the hall--thinking maybe they could prevent a killing if there were witnesses around.

One passenger walked by the door to the Love Suite and found two new poems pinned to the door:

There once was a gal on this steam train
Whose love for me will always remain.
Unless it's Night Two,
And they replace you...
Boy, wouldn't that cause you some pain!

There once was young man who loved me,
From the killers, he wanted to flee.
He went to the gym,
I stayed home and skimmed,
His poem that was awful to see.


The passenger chuckled to himself and walked by to the next cabin to notice the door slightly ajar. He noticed the lights in the cabin were off. Who would leave the door to their room unlocked after such a threat was given the previous day?

The passenger took a look inside and let out a yell for assistance. "HELP! Someone's been stabbed! Is there a doctor on board?!" But there were no doctors on board this train. Not anymore anyway. The dead body belonged to white lancer, the Nurse.

Morning drew closer and the rest of the passengers began to wake up and learned of the most recent death that had occured. Some thought that it was definitely time to put an end to this, but what would be done?

1. chiefsonny
2. Redack
3. Count Dooku
4. hezekiah
5. Shadowwalked
6. Pirate_Ninja
7. Feral
8. Black Yoshi
9. Bubba
10. white lancer - Nurse
11. Jo Nathan
12. Lady Flare
13. The Bandit
14. Castrael
15. Apollo Justice
16. Speed Bike Pro
17. Hindenburg

Ratio: 4-11-1
Roles: Lazy Ninja, Lazy Janitor, Mafia Investigator, Ballot Forger
Oracle, Tracker, Bad Break Billy, Lover x2, Townie x6
Replacement

Round ends in 72 hours or after 11 votes for the same option.

There are 140 Replies

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*Yawn* Am I the only one who slept all night?(Game slipped my mind).

January 25, 2014
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Feral

Apparently it's starting out as a game of luck now. Since I don't remember Lancer posting anything.

Also, losing the Nurse is a big no-no. I'm open to suggestions.

January 25, 2014
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Castrael

Well shit.

January 25, 2014
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Jo Nathan

Seriously though, how does the Mafia always kill a fucking power role on the 1st night. I don't think I've ever been in a game where the Cop or the Doctor or whatever wasn't instantly murdered.

January 25, 2014
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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

Seriously though, how does the Mafia always kill a fucking power role on the 1st night.


I am wondering the same thing my self.

January 25, 2014
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chiefsonny
 

Well shit.


My thoughts exactly, JN.

January 25, 2014
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Black Yoshi

I bet the mafia wished they had used their Janitor power. (duck)

January 25, 2014
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The Bandit

Well one of two things happened.

1. They got super lucky with that investigator, but either chose to not use the janitor or the janitor forgot/wasn't around?

2. They investigated someone else, probably a townie, and decided to kill Lancer instead.

If it's the former then there's not much to go on from this kill.

January 25, 2014
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Moonray

I'm thinking we go ahead and look at our inactive players first, just to be safe.

January 25, 2014
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Castrael

If Moonray thinks the Janitor might of forgot, this might help us find em.

Inactive Players
Count Dooku
Shadowwalked?
Lady Flare
Bubba?

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

January 25, 2014
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Castrael

If Moonray's first conjecture is correct, it means that one of the inactive players Cas listed above has to be the Janitor; therefore, they should be our prime candidates for today-round's lynch. On the other hand, the Janitor is Lazy this game; we can't rule out the possibility, therefore, that they may have simply decided not to use their power yet.

January 25, 2014
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Black Yoshi

I'm thinking Dooku only because I've seen him post around the site and not really posting here. He could be a Townie and yea, being a Townie sucks, but you're still apart of a game no matter what. Dooku would be my vote if I had to.

January 25, 2014
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Castrael

I'm inactive? I'm feeling a little resentful about that statement. Just because I don't post every 5 minutes doesn't make me inactive. I think I posted 3 times last day round and 2 were game relevent/serious. (Cas don't take my resentment the wrong way. I'm emotinally frayed right now.)

January 25, 2014
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Lady Flare

That's why I left a question mark because I wasn't sure. (Its okay)

January 25, 2014
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Castrael

A few games ago when Dooku and I were mafia, he was very, very quiet in the beginning rounds. He has definitely been active on the rest of the site too. Not enough to put a vote in, but I'm SUSPICIOUS.

If he is mafia, then he's obviously not an inactive Janitor though.

January 25, 2014
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The Bandit

Yeah, I agree. He could be the Ballot Forger. I mean there's really nothing you can do with a Ballot Forger, unless change the vote around. I was going to have most of these rolls in my game, but I didn't want you guys to have to wait for me to build one from scratch.

January 26, 2014
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Castrael

I prefer spring rolls.

January 26, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Spring rolls, eh?

January 26, 2014
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Castrael

ROLLING AROUND AT THE SPEED OF SOUND
GOT PLACES TO GO
TOO BAD THEY KILLED OUR NURSE THOUGH


A few games ago when Dooku and I were mafia, he was very, very quiet in the beginning rounds. He has definitely been active on the rest of the site too. Not enough to put a vote in, but I'm SUSPICIOUS.

If he is mafia, then he's obviously not an inactive Janitor though.
what if he forgot about/lost interest in the game among all the reset drama, or just missed the night deadline in particular after playing the day round in silence? I get the idea in that there's a limit to being intentionally quiet, but I don't know if I'd rule that out as impossible.

January 26, 2014
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Pirate_Ninja

hordy

January 26, 2014
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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

@Pirate: I texted dear Dooku last night and he knows about the game.

And he wasn't the one who was silenced the last game. I would know :P

January 26, 2014
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Castrael

no *the before last

January 26, 2014
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Castrael

Hmmm...

January 26, 2014
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Lady Flare

^ I actually like that vote a lot and if nothing else happens I think I'll join you.

January 26, 2014
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The Bandit

I have been getting some kind of vibe from Apollo. Kill me if I'm wrong.

January 26, 2014
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Jo Nathan

If Apollo is mafia, then her actions yesterday don't make a lot of sense. She voted for Cas, saw quite a few more votes for Cas, but then backed off as the numbers started piling up and Cas talked a bit more. If she is mafia, then the only thing that would really make sense would be if Castrael is also mafia, which I don't see at all.

January 26, 2014
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The Bandit

I know I'm partly guilty here but does the game just seem really quiet? Kinda difficult to get anywhere if nothing is happening.

For Dooku, I'm pretty confident he just lost interest after the restarts (especially after he got pretty psyched up for playing the serial killer only to lose the role). I think it's highly unlikely his inactivity is anything else, but I could support a lynch against him (or other inactive players) because inactive players aren't much help and there's not too much to lose right now on a mislynch.

Inactive Players
Count Dooku
Shadowwalked?
Lady Flare
Bubba?
That's why I left a question mark because I wasn't sure. (Its okay)


You actually didn't put a question mark on Lady Flare {;)}

Anyway I don't really have anything to pin anyone down as mafia right now so I hold my vote. The vote for Feral is looking somewhat interesting with the first reply to this post, does seem an odd thing to point out unless you're intentionally trying to create an innocent persona but it's not enough for me to just jump on yet.


January 26, 2014
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Moonray

You actually didn't put a question mark on Lady Flare


I thought I did, so my mistake. Sorry again, Flare.

Yeah, I can feel that vibe from Dooku. I still feel bad. That's because I feel hesitant to lynch him, but I feel a lot of other people have lost interest as well. Let's just start from inactive players and if that doesn't work, then we really have nothing.

January 26, 2014
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Castrael

*That's why I

January 26, 2014
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Castrael

kill

January 26, 2014
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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

Hmmm...


Hmmm indeed...I'm interested to see your rationale behind that vote, Lady Flare.

January 27, 2014
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Black Yoshi

I'm a lil suspicious of Lady Flare, but I'm going to hold off for now.

That was a random vote to Feral.

January 27, 2014
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Castrael

It doesn't say random; all it says is Lade Flare Voted for Feral. No "randomly" to be found.

January 27, 2014
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Black Yoshi

Damn lack of edit feature; meant "Lady Flare" in the orange...

January 27, 2014
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Black Yoshi

Lade Flare, huh? Is that some kind of nickname those within the mafia inner circle have for her?

Holding my vote for now but I feel awfully confident about a few leads.........

January 27, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

I'm very curious, Speed.

Also, I said random, because you usually have a reason wny you vote someone. Correct?

January 27, 2014
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Castrael

Less than 24 hours left now, so I'm going to start voting to see what happens.

January 27, 2014
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The Bandit

Holding my vote for now but I feel awfully confident about a few leads.........

This is the absolute worst point in the game/round to hold your vote, especially if you feel confident. No one has said anything for the first 48 hours. If you have something, speak up.

January 27, 2014
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The Bandit

I know I'm partly guilty here but does the game just seem really quiet? Kinda difficult to get anywhere if nothing is happening


Kind of hard to get hyped again after 3 restarts and 3 different roles.

January 27, 2014
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chiefsonny
 

Better post before the inactive clause can be applied to me.

Anyone have a complete list of the assigned roles of the previous games prior to the resets? There has got to be a probability formula here. If only LLight was around...

January 27, 2014
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Bubba

I have it memorized, somewhat. At least from my game, not from Helius + I game.

January 27, 2014
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Castrael

Sorry, I've had a very busy weekend but I'm here and have things to say and will in a bit after I get at least some amount of homework done. I certainly have things to say and would ideally like to do it more than a few hours before the round ends.

January 27, 2014
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Apollo Justice

Apparently I said I have things to say twice... That means I REALLY have things to say... Oh yes... STAY TUNED

January 27, 2014
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Apollo Justice

Also, I said random, because you usually have a reason (why) you vote someone. Correct?


Very true; I'm interested in just what are her motives behind that apparently random vote. Seems a mite suspicious to me...I have seen Mafia members do that before. Then again, I have seen perfectly innocent people do that before and the folks they vote for turn out to be Mafia. Really, that could go both ways.

That said, something has been nagging at me since this game began; something about Castrael, specifically, but I can't seem to put my finger on what it is...and I know she starts every game like that, but still, something seems a mite off about her versus in the past when she's been Town-sided (at least, as far as I can remember; I haven't played since August)...

January 27, 2014
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Black Yoshi

Or, your Mafia trying to pin a reason for having me lynch. Because I don't know how I'm being suspicious.

January 27, 2014
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Castrael

Trust me, no one in this game knows they're being suspicious; maybe some go to lengths to cover it up, but one can be suspicious and not even know it. Remember the game when Jo Nathan and Apollo were Mafia and they managed to make Speed look more suspicious than anyone I've ever seen in a Mafia game...and he turned out to be a Townie?

January 27, 2014
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Black Yoshi

Me voting for Feral was a guess. I'll admit it. I feel that when someone randomly votes for someone, it's a joke. At this stage in the game/round, we need to stop joking around (or at least tone it down) and get down to business. My vote is stirring up some conversasion which is what we want. And Feral hasn't come back to defend himself yet which is a little interesting as well.

And I'm very interested to hear what Apollo and Speed have to say. They both are very intuitive when it comes to Mafia. It's hard to go back to previous games after the mass glitch but I vaguely remember them saying that they had things to say and never followig through with them because they were Mafia. So I'm looking forward to reading their take on the game so far.

January 27, 2014
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Lady Flare

Apparently I said I have things to say twice... That means I REALLY have things to say... Oh yes... STAY TUNED


She said she had things to say twice. Obvious slip-up that she then tried to cover up with this damage control post. MAFIA CONFIRMED

And since we've stayed tuned and still haven't heard what she has to say, I'd say the evidence is absolutely conclusive. MAFIA DOUBLE CONFIRMED

Ok, so my post so far has been nothing more than tongue-in-cheek jesting, but in all cerealness, it does strike me as odd how we have multiple players saying they have leads or they have something to say, and then they never follow through. I reckon we'll see one or two "sorry, I've been busy" posts.... which is admittedly reasonable.

January 27, 2014
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Jo Nathan

sorry, I've been busy

January 27, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Apollo did this before when she was Mafia.

Im not really concerned about speed just yet but im suspicious of Apollo and Yoshi.

January 27, 2014
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Castrael

Because reasons

January 27, 2014
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Count Dooku

Don't you dare.

January 27, 2014
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Castrael

@Dooku: And what reasons?

January 27, 2014
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Castrael

Apollo did this before when she was Mafia.


Did what, her homework? I agree, she did do homework when she was mafia but I don't find that indicative of her role in this game at all.

January 27, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

I don't feel especially strong about this, but with a Ballot Forger around I'm uneasy with leaving the vote totals so close. If people are active when I have some time later I'm open to trying to think things through a bit more. For now, I don't particularly like that rather Lazy arrival followed by silence.

and, uh...nice of you to stop by, Dooku? It'd be nice to get some idea of those reasons, especially if you know something the rest of us don't.

January 27, 2014
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Pirate_Ninja

Castrael, this game is showing (along with your past voting pattern) that you only really go after people who accuse you ("you called me Mafia, so you must be Mafia") - it both is ineffective in pinning the Mafia if you're town-sided and fanning the blame off yourself if you're Mafia-sided.

Apollo did this before when she was Mafia.


Not really but hey what's goin' on

Anyways,

At Least Slightly Suspicious

Redack - Hasn't added much. I haven't played many games with him, but usually by this point I see a nice lengthy (or very content-driven) piece by him, and while he's been pretty busy hosting Adventure, I'm still iffy on him.

chiefsonny - chiefsonny hasn't added much but he isn't the most outspoken player as it is - if anything, my suspicions of him are more of a hunch.

Feral - Inactive. Last game he was town-sided, he had a ton to contribute. Last game he was Mafia, he was very silent/inactive for the first few day rounds.

Count Dooku - Inactive until just now. Did this as the Survivor and Mafia, understandable fear of being killed off early but.. for example, was very active when Sensor a few games back and it just raises a few flags.

Bubba - Not usually the most outspoken, especially not until closer to the end of the game. Plays remarkably similarly when Town and Mafia.


Obviously not all of these gentlemen are Mafia (even just by the fact that I only have 5 people on it, and plus the Replacement is always a factor), and a lot of it is due to silence - inactivity isn't a bad thing as long as you contribute at least something once per day round, I mean, let's be real, I haven't even spoken much until just now (this day round at least).

???

Jo Nathan - I don't think he would be coming after me at all unless he truly believed I were Mafia, which probably makes him more likely town-sided (or Replacement). He usually steps back a bit when Mafia (doesn't become inactive, but just distances himself a bit), and him voting for me is far from keeping that distance - so I don't think he's Mafia.

hezekiah - Silent/inactive a lot of the time, but I would love to hear what he has to say about the game thus far.

Castrael - IDK, man. I don't really understand what she's doing and while I'm interested to see what her role is, I'm still not convinced it's Mafia, especially because she pulled the whole "I'll vote for myself if you all vote for me", which pissed-off Town-sided people tend to do when they're voted for (especially IRL). Wouldn't be necessarily surprised if she weren't town-sided, but I have a small hunch that she's not Mafia.

The Bandit - ???. I'm not sure what my read on him is right now. Does not compute. Error. Further analysis needed, etc.

So IDK. It's possible Lady Flare is Mafia and maybe they checked Feral last night to see his role and she's like "fudge it let's lynch him", but I don't feel like that's the case. The players I didn't mention I either am simply not particularly suspicious of and/or feel like I was able to get a somewhat-kinda-maybe decent read off of them to assume that they're less likely Mafia than Town. It doesn't mean I won't feel differently in the next day, or even the next hour.

Anyways, I guess I'll go with this for now.

January 27, 2014
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Apollo Justice

Well, Feral, you really screwed the pooch on this one.

January 27, 2014
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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

New reasons

January 27, 2014
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Count Dooku

Is this how we do it now? Alright, alright, I can play along...

Reasons

January 27, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Completely missed Moonray's reply from last night, so ignore the comment I made about him being inactive/not having content. Doesn't make me less suspicious but eh.

Also gonna throw Black Yoshi and Hindenburg into the ??? pile for the heck of it.

I feel like I wind up overthinking Mafia so much.

January 27, 2014
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Apollo Justice

In Moonray's defense I believe he has an Adventure game to launch today. Would explain his relative inactivity.

But why would I speak up in his defense ???

January 27, 2014
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Count Dooku

What is the current vote tally? I'm a little concerned about the Ballot Forger.

January 27, 2014
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Lady Flare

Feral 5 Votes
chiefsonny 1 Votes
Count Dooku 1 Votes
Castrael 1 Votes
Pirate_Ninja 1 Votes
Apollo Justice 1 Votes

January 27, 2014
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Castrael

Feral - 5
chiefsonny - 1
Count Dooku - 1
Castrael - 1
Pirate_Ninja - 1
Apollo Justice - 1

January 27, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Wow wtf you copied me

January 27, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Uh puh lease, I posted first!

January 27, 2014
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Castrael

Bringing this baby out of the depths of my "Favorite Pictures" bookmark folder...



January 27, 2014
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Apollo Justice



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Speed Bike Pro
 

Redack - Hasn't added much. I haven't played many games with him, but usually by this point I see a nice lengthy (or very content-driven) piece by him, and while he's been pretty busy hosting Adventure, I'm still iffy on him.
Completely missed Moonray's reply from last night, so ignore the comment I made about him being inactive/not having content. Doesn't make me less suspicious but eh.


Yea I am aware of this and if I survive into later rounds I'll be sure to be more active and posting my usual stuff. I've just been busy with work, playing Borderlands 2 with Dooku and then most of my GTX0 time has been spent on getting Adventure ready for today (which I should really be working on now). This is why I normally avoid playing Mafia when an Adventure game is starting. You've seen how much work is needed just for a minigame so I'm sure you can understand how much time a full game requires from me with the one week deadline I stupidly gave myself!

As for what's currently going on here. I honestly don't see Feral turning out to be Mafia. As I said earlier his first reply to this post was somewhat odd (see earlier post for more detail) but I'm not content that he's mafia. Same with Castrael, she's just being Castrael and I'm not really getting her mafia vibe like I normally would if she were Mafia.

My gut instinct says Hindenburg is a potential mafia, but he's not posted enough and it's generally random.

I don't want to vote for Feral, but I don't want to cause a distraction from what seems to be a general consensus at this point so...


January 27, 2014
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Moonray

Now back to Adventure, thank you so much for delaying me from it(no)

January 27, 2014
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Moonray

Yikes... Who pissed in your tea and crumpets...

January 27, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 



January 27, 2014
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Jo Nathan

This is why I normally avoid playing Mafia when an Adventure game is starting. You've seen how much work is needed just for a minigame so I'm sure you can understand how much time a full game requires from me with the one week deadline I stupidly gave myself!


It doesn't have to be like this, son... (cry)

January 27, 2014
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Apollo Justice

Also I want to trust Moonray but at the same time I'm conflicted because I think it's likely at least him or Feral are Mafia and it hurts man it hurts right in the heart

January 27, 2014
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Apollo Justice

Well, maybe when Adventure game starts, we'll just have to wait and see. Honestly, I'm losing some interest Mafia atm and am looking forward to Adventure.

January 27, 2014
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Castrael

Not really but hey what's goin' on

I have no idea why you and others are denying that you did this as mafia. I remember the game because I slept through the final moments of the last round and couldn't help swing the vote. When you finally did arrive in the thread with your insights, it was all generic info that anyone who read the thread had already gathered. Like, what.

January 27, 2014
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The Bandit

And Speed still has not given any of his hunches at all, which is really annoying.

January 27, 2014
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The Bandit

I'm starting to doubt my Feral vote. The fact that he hasn't shown up at all leads me to believe that he really has just forgotten about the game, which is significantly less likely if he's mafia.

January 27, 2014
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The Bandit

Hmmmm... Interesting.....

January 27, 2014
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Jo Nathan

Honestly, I'm losing some interest Mafia atm and am looking forward to Adventure.


Uh, ok.

Anyways, I was thinking, and Moonray is a good player so if he's Mafia, he's going to pull the cards he can in a fashionable way. If he is Mafia and Feral is also Mafia, he would very unlikely defend Feral because it'd just make him look incredibly guilty. If he is Mafia and Feral isn't Mafia, then he'd likely claim Feral's innocence while the town tries to lynch him in order to establish perhaps a sense of trust? And if Moonray is not Mafia, then he probably really is right - that Feral isn't Mafia. Regardless, I think Moonray saying Feral isn't Mafia means Feral probably isn't Mafia.

I have no idea why you and others are denying that you did this as mafia. I remember the game because I slept through the final moments of the last round and couldn't help swing the vote. When you finally did arrive in the thread with your insights, it was all generic info that anyone who read the thread had already gathered. Like, what.


If you look at my past games you can see that that's... not really true. I remember doing it once or twice at most as Mafia, but I seem to do it a lot as Town because I'm always trying to piece everything together by the end of the day round and also the only times I've been Mafia for a full game were over summer when I had a lot more time. I haven't been Mafia for a full game (not including Feral's) since summer, and I just haven't had the free time I used to have.

Anyways, pending for now but not voting Feral anymore.

January 27, 2014
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Apollo Justice

^ also not sure what game you're even referring to @ Bandit

January 27, 2014
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Apollo Justice

Anyways, I was thinking, and Moonray is a good player so if he's Mafia, he's going to pull the cards he can in a fashionable way. If he is Mafia and Feral is also Mafia, he would very unlikely defend Feral because it'd just make him look incredibly guilty. If he is Mafia and Feral isn't Mafia, then he'd likely claim Feral's innocence while the town tries to lynch him in order to establish perhaps a sense of trust? And if Moonray is not Mafia, then he probably really is right - that Feral isn't Mafia. Regardless, I think Moonray saying Feral isn't Mafia means Feral probably isn't Mafia.


Actually I tend to find people think that way when it comes to plays they consider to be good, so if I was Mafia I would probably defend an ally because no one expects me to.

Anyway I just got finished with Adventure. I'll spend some time reading over everything, expect me to be more active with better insight next day round :)

January 27, 2014
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Moonray

Well, maybe when Adventure game starts, we'll just have to wait and see. Honestly, I'm losing some interest Mafia atm and am looking forward to Adventure.

So you want to be lynched now, is that what you're saying? Didn't you try playing that card in a previous game?

January 27, 2014
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Bubba

Okay, so here's where I'm at. Nothing has really jumped out at me yet to make me super suspicious of anyone in particular. Seems I'm not the only one who has had difficulty being invested in the game this time around, for all the good that does us. Lucky shot by the Mafia to find the Nurse so early, but that just makes it even clearer that we need to be on the offensive, making kills. As such...

January 27, 2014
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hezekiah

I'd just like to point out that no one counter-claimed Bad Break Billy for a full day round, making me believe that it truly is Shadowwalked.

January 27, 2014
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Apollo Justice

If you look at my past games you can see that that's... not really true. I remember doing it once or twice at most as Mafia, but I seem to do it a lot as Town because I'm always trying to piece everything together by the end of the day round and also the only times I've been Mafia for a full game were over summer when I had a lot more time. I haven't been Mafia for a full game (not including Feral's) since summer, and I just haven't had the free time I used to have.

It was Feral's Christmas game I believe. I remember saying "if Apollo doesn't know half the mafia by now I'm voting for her," and I made that statement because you were responsible for identifying me and my entire Mafia team the previous game very early on.

And that entire paragraph is one big contradiction.

-If you have done it, as you admitted, then it is true. There's no ambiguity here, so I don't know why you would say it's "not really true." It's 100% true.

-Doing it "once or twice" as mafia is a pretty big percentage of the times you actually are mafia.

-The fact that Feral's game was a reset should have no bearing on anything. It can still be used as evidence for how you play as mafia.

-I'm not suggesting that you always lie about being busy or something. The fact that you are legitimately busy sometimes legitimizes you claiming you're busy when you're mafia (or otherwise do not wish to contribute)

I don't mean to sound nitpicky. If I knew you were a townie I wouldn't bother pursuing this, but if you are mafia it just seems like you're trying to spread misinformation about a tactic I've seen you previously employ, and suddenly it becomes a much bigger issue. The fact that Speed jumped to your defense would also lead me to believe that you two have discussed this OOG, and if he is innocent and you're mafia, then I would also have to assume you're manipulating him to defend you. Using Speed for your own purposes is another one of your favorite mafia tactics.

So, yeah, this nitpicky thing would become a pretty big deal.

January 27, 2014
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The Bandit

The reverse could also obviously be true. Speed could be mafia and Apollo could be innocent, and he's defending her because that's just something he would do and defending an innocent player against an accusation might make us think he's innocent too. Not damning in either way, just something to think about.

January 27, 2014
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The Bandit

I'm saying that Castrael said that I say I'm busy when I'm Mafia, which actually happens less if anything when I am. I'm not intending to contradict myself or anything like that and definitely not trying to spread misinformation because, well hey, I'm not Mafia.

And not that it's pertinent to the discussion, just in response to what one of my "favorite tactics" is, but Speed and I haven't talked about this OOG.

January 27, 2014
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Apollo Justice

Right now it's 3 to 3 with Feral and Cas and only two hours left. I don't really like a lynch on either one, and leaving it this way is obviously not going to work.

Everything this guy says leaves a bad taste in my mouth for some reason.

January 27, 2014
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The Bandit

Agreed @ thinking both Feral and Castrael are a bad choice for lynching, but I'd think PN is a worse choice for lynching, if anything. I really do want to explore more options but most of the people who were talking today in particular are people I was more wary of to begin with.

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Apollo Justice

also Ballot Forger

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Apollo Justice

Then who do you suggest?

January 27, 2014
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The Bandit

I wish I could go back to previous games. IDK who to vote for either. I'm open to changing my Feral vote but I don't know to whom.

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Lady Flare

Well, I made a small list before but upon reviewing it, a lot of it is just... them being inactive and extrapolating too far in my mind to some extent.

As opposed to people I am fairly confident are guilty, I'm more confident about certain people being innocent. That being said, I'd be comfortable voting for anyone who hits me the wrong way or is unusually inactive, like Moonray (though this was accounted for somewhat), Count Dooku, or chiefsonny.

This isn't to say I'm convinced Castrael or Feral are innocent, either. I would like to Feral to say something on the matter, but he doesn't seem to be around. But at this point I'd be more comfortable voting with one of the above options.

wbu

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Apollo Justice

also by above options I meant the Moonray/Count Dooku/chiefsonny combo

January 27, 2014
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Apollo Justice

Alright, am back. Sorry I was getting myself into a bad habit of negative thoughts. So, I needed a break. I'm fine now.

Anyway.

Question 1: How many hours do we have left?

I'm pretty sure I have my vote still set on Count Dooku but am willing to change it.

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Castrael

BTW @ Feral's game you said:

I remember the game because I slept through the final moments of the last round and couldn't help swing the vote. When you finally did arrive in the thread with your insights, it was all generic info that anyone who read the thread had already gathered. Like, what.


There was an issue with the game mechanics on that part - I received the Cop Pack as the first gift and I explicitly used it that night to check hezekiah (to throw off the Watcher/Rudolph by chance) and since I knew he was innocent (as I was Mafia), I told everyone that he was but I did it incredibly later on in the day round because Feral never registered my use of the Cop Pack. I was literally unable to talk without outing myself because of an error within the game (since we didn't sort the matter until much later on in the day round) so using that game as a reference isn't entirely appropriate. I'd provide the evidence but the posts aren't there, so... Yeah. That example from that game was not pertinent to my style of play, but to logistical error in the mechanics.

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Apollo Justice

Round ends at 7:10 EST tonight, so about 1 hour and 40 minutes left.

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Apollo Justice

Round ends at 7:10 EST tonight, so about 1 hour and 40 minutes left.


So, 6:10p CST, my time. Thanks :)

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Castrael

The game I am thinking of you specifically said you were busy and would come up with analysis later (Just like this game!) made a list of a couple of players (Just like this game!) and said very obvious things about them (Just like this game!). Maybe it was game 19 and I'm confused, but it definitely happened.

Actually, yes. It had to be game 19. I was at college for this game and home for Feral's game. So my apologies on that.

As far as who to vote for, besides PN, I think you and Speed are the most overtly suspicious. Speed has yet to offer any insights despite his promise, and you just are not playing like you do when you're a townie. I don't think Speed would rush to your defense if you were both mafia, however, so I'm unsure which one to go for.

While you may think my PN vote is bad, there's no way it's worse than Feral or Cas.

Feral got several votes for him over a single comment he made in the whole game. To suggest that Feral, of all people (the guy who swore he hated this game and would never play again) would not visibly get upset over that, whether as townie or mafia, is impossible. The fact that he legitimately forgot about the game made his one comment significantly less suspicious.

Cas has gone two day rounds without giving up a single teammate, so she simply can't be mafia or a Lover. Seriously, though, she's just playing the game and doesn't strike me as weird or all.

If I had to choose between the two, I would pick Feral, but they're both bad and I would rather let the ballot forger make the deciding vote than do it myself.

I also think Speed is more suspicious than you, and so if I had to choose between those two I would rather pick him in case you were wondering, but I don't feel comfortable doing that just yet either.

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The Bandit

I say we kill Dooku/or Moonray. I mean, what do we have to lose? If he turns out Townie, then we're not really loosing too much. If he turns out Mafia, then that'd be a bonus.

Also, Dooku said he had reasons, but never really said what they were. He just kept changing thoughts.

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Castrael

Cas has gone two day rounds without giving up a single teammate,


I also like to say that I think I've learned that lesson; Mafia, Power Role and Townie or not, I think the team would make sure that I wouldn't make the same mistake.

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Castrael

Ok well since I don't agree with any of the current votes being mafia right now and you guys seems to be growing less confident in your votes, I'm just going to go with my gut instinct (which I frequently do when there's an absence of evidence).

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Moonray

Scratch the townie part.

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Castrael

I don't think Dooku would ever do that as mafia. Maybe I'm being overly simplistic, but it would just be such a huge leap from the way he played when we were on the same team. It's totally possible, but I'm not ready to go there yet.

And I get 0 vibes from Moonray. Like, not even one. He could be that good, I don't know, but I'm not going to cast a vote for someone unless I have some suspicion of him, even if it is just a gut feeling.

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The Bandit

That being said, I'd be comfortable voting for anyone who hits me the wrong way or is unusually inactive, like Moonray (though this was accounted for somewhat), Count Dooku, or chiefsonny.


Well if it's going to take me writing walls of text to convince you I'm innocent.
That ain't going to happen.

To be very honest after 3 restarts and going from 2 very good roles to the shit role I have know it's very hard for me to get my head into the game.

I will try to get my head more into the game. But I will not be writing any books.

January 27, 2014
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chiefsonny
 

We got nothing so I'm with Moonray. I like gut feelings.

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Castrael

Well, I'm not Mafia and I really don't think Speed's Mafia so either of us is a bad choice.

But we have less than an hour and a half left and I'm going out to dinner tonight (monday mafia madness yo) so I'll have to be a giant nerd and keep tabs on Mafia from my phone as the World's Biggest Mafia Nerd of 2014.

January 27, 2014
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Apollo Justice

k

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The Bandit

bandwagoning for lack of better idea

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Apollo Justice

But we have less than an hour and a half left and I'm going out to dinner tonight (monday mafia madness yo) so I'll have to be a giant nerd and keep tabs on Mafia from my phone as the World's Biggest Mafia Nerd of 2014.


lol, I do the same thing Apollo :P But, in this case, at work (on break).

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Castrael

How much time left in the game? I think we're using CST.

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chiefsonny
 

A bit under 1 hour and 20 minutes remain :).

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MajorasMask9

Hindenburg 4 Votes
Feral 3 Votes
Castrael 3 Votes
Apollo Justice 1 Votes
Pirate_Ninja 1 Votes

We need one more or two in case the Ballot Forger decides to tie it. I don't think that can happen but eh.

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Castrael

Hindenburg goes down in flames!

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Count Dooku

Not crazy about the Hindy vote but I'll add my vote before the deadline for Ballot Forger insurance.

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Speed Bike Pro
 

Never liked wagons. Damn wheels always seem to come off. But I'll take a chance and see what happens.

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chiefsonny
 

I'm feeling uncomfortable about voting for Hindenburg. He hasn't given us much to go on and I've only played against him twice. Once in the Christmas game when he was obviously Mafia and again in Game 23 when he was killed early on. All I can say is I just don't FEEL he is Mafia. Granted I've been wrong before.

I'll take my vote off Feral to increase the margin between votes.

January 27, 2014
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Lady Flare

Can we go back to the Feral bandwagon please?

January 28, 2014
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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

Round ends in 5 minutes and it looks like Hindy is gonna get the noose so I'll just vote for someone who is actually mafia.

January 28, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Literally y.

January 28, 2014
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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

I'm sleepy and I've been busy but I promise I'm not inactive and I'll do things soon.



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Shadowwalked

Night 2

The death of white lancer surprised everyone. Many passengers stayed up the whole night talking, yet nobody seemed to have seen the elusive murderer make his kill.

The passengers knew that it was time to act. But what could be done? One passenger took stand and proposed an idea: hold a vote; whoever gets the most votes will be publicly killed. Their idea was that if they all had a say in who was killed, they would at least have a chance of killing the nightly murderers.

Some passengers were hesitant to go along with such an idea. It felt like some kind of twisted game. Hold a vote; whoever receives the most votes dies. To put their lives on the line based on a simple vote made everyone uneasy. But something had to be done, and there didn't seem to be any easy way out of their situation.

The passengers agreed. They discussed their thoughts and suspicions publicly. Suspects were pointed out and tensions were high, but at the end, they had settled on a vote.

They all entered the Dining Car. Names were written on folded slips of paper torn from one passengers notebook, and were placed in plain sight on a table. Once everyone's slips were on the table, they were unfolded and left on the table, reading off names one by one of the passengers wanted killed.

Feral

Hindenburg

Castrael

Apollo Justice

Black Yoshi

They continued to unfold the slips of paper until it was clear that one name had reached a clear majority. Hindenburg was to be killed.

Hindenburg's eyes opened wide. He didn't expect this at all! He tried to talk his way out of it, but it was no use. The passengers knew what had to be done. A knife was taken from one of the Dining Car's tables. Hindenburg struggled, knocking over a table and shattering a small vase, but in the end the passengers had overpowered him. It was a gruesome sight; many couldn't stand to watch.

But in the end a light of hope was seen for the innocent passengers, as it was discovered that Hindenburg was in fact the Lazy Janitor, one of the four killers.

Many passengers had already run out of the Dining Car in horror and disgust, but were at least relieved to find out that one of their killers was gone. Some stayed up to discuss the events, while others simply went to sleep. The night went on...

Sunday, February 9th
11:05pm

1. chiefsonny
2. Redack
3. Count Dooku
4. hezekiah
5. Shadowwalked
6. Pirate_Ninja
7. Feral
8. Black Yoshi
9. Bubba
10. white lancer - Nurse
11. Jo Nathan
12. Lady Flare
13. The Bandit
14. Castrael
15. Apollo Justice
16. Speed Bike Pro
17. Hindenburg - Lazy Janitor

Ratio: 3-11-1
Roles: Lazy Ninja, Mafia Investigator, Ballot Forger
Oracle, Tracker, Bad Break Billy, Lover x2, Townie x6
Replacement

Round ends in 24 hours or after all night actions are in.

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MajorasMask9

nvm

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Speed Bike Pro
 

Oh snap. die mafia

January 28, 2014
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Castrael

I helped

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Count Dooku

Nice!

January 28, 2014
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hezekiah

Yes, yes you did <3

January 28, 2014
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Castrael

For once the wheel stayed on the wagon. 1 down 4 to go, counting the Replacement.{y}

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chiefsonny
 

It's worth mentioning that this night round is the one where the Replacement does his or her thing. Come the day round, we'll have a new town- or mafia-based player but they're merely replacing someone else so I don't think they're worth a specific target.

January 28, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Has Redack's gut ever been wrong? Even once?

January 28, 2014
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The Bandit

I DON'T WANT TO DIE I JUST WANT TO SLEEP

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Apollo Justice



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Apollo Justice

Has Redack's gut ever been wrong? Even once?


Well I'll admit I'm not familiar with Hindy's play style but the way he was acting just left me feeling like he was mafia. Though it probably has been wrong.

January 28, 2014
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Moonray

Good job.

What's the consensus on talking game during the night round? It feels naughty.

January 28, 2014
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Bubba

It definitely gives the game a slightly different atmosphere. I don't think that's a bad thing.

I'm not entirely surprised at how things turned out in the round, with so many people expressing doubt in voting off Feral, but it was a nice surprise to see that we took out a Mafia. Good job guys. {y}

January 28, 2014
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Jo Nathan

Apollo has the cutest pictures.

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Lady Flare

A gut feeling isn't always just a gut feeling...



Tired time, sleepy time, Night (2) time!

Apollo has the cutest pictures.


I am glad you appreciate them (:$) in the midst of all this killing, there has to me some level of maintained adorableness...

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Apollo Justice



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Pirate_Ninja

You think those are cute? Behold...



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Speed Bike Pro
 

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