oh shit

Well, Jora went down slinging, that's for sure.

Get the DICK

Couldn't have went better for us. Majora is hero we need.

Now back to evilguy/lightvayne.

Best. Night round. Ever.

While I am still a bit confused how I got all mixed up in this, I'm still going with my gut here and want to vote for Evilguy. Unless someone else has some new information, I'll be making my vote later today.

And as it seems I'm going to be defending myself this round also (thanks for that Bubba) I would like to assure all of you, going after me would only result in one less townie. While I have absolutely no proof to back this up, there isn't much else I can do...(sad)

Awesome, although with the cop dead Godfather was basically just a mafioso to us.

Investigator and Framer are also basically mafioso now.

Thanks Majora, you really did the town good <3
Framer is definitely a Mafioso. Investigator's only purpose now is finding the lawyer and maaaybe the doublevoter, but nothing else.
So it's basically a 3:10 vanilla game.

We're still on this I see....

But that 10 number can come down very fast if we continue to lynch our own and the Mafia gets to kill another of us during the Night.

And I could never understand voting on the first day with Vote Lock on. At least wait 48 hours to see if anyone has anything to say that may help.

Dang. There WAS an inconsistency with Majora's post from yesterday. I just didn't catch on that he could be the Serial Killer. Oh well, it worked out for us.

And I could never understand voting on the first day with Vote Lock on. At least wait 48 hours to see if anyone has anything to say that may help.

Agree.

Now back to evilguy/lightvayne.

I think I strongly disagree, because I just still don't see much of a strong argument for either of them being mafia (especially Evilguy). I'm afraid that if we kill one and he's innocent, the town will just feel the need to kill the other, and this definitely isn't a dichotomy. They can easily both be innocent. I'd rather just put it aside, keep an eye on them, and focus on the quieter people, as chief mentioned last round. Dooku for one has a well documented history of being active as Townie, but pretty silent as mafia.

Also, keep in mind that the ratio is actually 11-3, as long as the DV is still with us.

The rest of the game will pretty much be a crapshoot during the day rounds and being hopeful during the night. Not a whole lot of talk has been going on during the night rounds period, and what talk has been done is by the same three or four people, so we can't really use that as an indicator of somebody's guilt this game. Then again, it's been like that period this game. We can't count out the possibility of maybe one of those people being mafia-aligned.

So, who will we vote for this round, if anybody at all?

AIRPORT WIFI MAFIA YO

bandit, I'm curious what inconsistency you saw w/Majora?

If we have any chance at winning, we need to vote for someone. We don't have any roles that can kill, so the only way we can win is by lynching a mafia member. Since no one seems to have any information other than people thinking evilguy not mafia....

^^
If you're going to vote with Vote Lock on at least vote for someone you may think is guilty.

Don't take the easy way out and do a Random Vote on Day 2.{fp}

He said something along the lines of "I'm scared that the Town doesn't want to make a vote, and all the mafia needs to do to lynch an innocent is cast one vote and everyone will go for it" and then random voted. I thought it didn't make any sense, but I agreed that he was probably right and that's what the Town would (and did) do, but I didn't think a mafia member would risk their random vote landing on a teammate.

Anyways, Black Yoshi doesn't seem to have provided us with the same kind of info that Jo Nathan did. I would still like to hear more from the quiet(er) players. Count Dooku said this:

My primary interest right now is a few specific individuals who wanted to count the cop out before he was down.

but then never followed up on it, and managed to stay out of the way as we voted on Chaos.

And yeah, that random vote was terrible.

The only use I could see the double voter granting us is
1. Revealing someone who counterclaims doublevoter, or
2. Helping us survive in a 3v3 lylo (and I'm n

The only use I could see the double voter granting us is
1. Revealing someone who counterclaims doublevoter, or
2. Helping us survive in a 3v3 lylo (and I'm not even sure that works?)

I honestly don't like it as a role, to me it's just a named townie.
I'd like to see them claim, then. If we get a cc, then that's one mafia down. If not, then we have someone to lead our lynch.

but then never followed up on it, and managed to stay out of the way as we voted on Chaos.

Referring to SDYoshi and Lightvayne, specifically. Neither of whom have made any particularly interesting moves that would point toward a diagnosis of Mafia Scum.

And... I'm not sure I follow the logic really. I didn't join in voting a townie off the island, and that's notable? I'd be more inclined to look at everyone who did vote for it.

Dooku for one has a well documented history of being active as Townie, but pretty silent as mafia.

It goes both ways, really. I've had some neato games as townie, but I tend to lose interest when I don't have some special power to play around with.

For the sake of preventing a mislynch this round, even if there are more than 24 hours left.

And... I'm not sure I follow the logic really. I didn't join in voting a townie off the island, and that's notable?

When your only contribution is something extremely vague, and then you disappear and don't get into any entanglements with anyone, yes. That is very, very notable. It's actually the definition of "look at me, I'm involved in the discussion!" without doing anything at all.

I'd be more inclined to look at everyone who did vote for it.

This is over simplifying the situation. Townies can make bad votes, and the mafia can intentionally not vote for someone they know is a Townie in order to avoid suspicion. The latter suits your playstyle when you're mafia. If you had actually shown up and offered an opinion on who to vote for, then I might feel differently.

Can we please stop throwing votes around for no reason? We're not random voting on Day3, and no one is going to just let a random vote go through

more like peewee's gayhouse

There are 3 Mafia left.

There are only two at this time that based on their past playing style and posting style leaves me with a strong gut feeling they may be Mafia.

`Roxas`

Count Dooku

Unless something comes up that changes my mind I will vote for one of these players before the Day Round ends at 10:20PM tomorrow Sept 1st.

Right now there's a tie for chief and Lancer. But I think tomorrow there will be a few more. I plan to vote for someone. I just don't know who yet.

Yep, holiday weekend = I was out of town. I also now have a visitor, so I'm having to make this one a quick one.

What Majora being the Serial Killer makes me wonder is if he was specifically attempting to target the Mafia with his Nightkills...he did hit two of them, and I put more faith in his ability to ferret out Mafia members than in most players' ability. It seems unlikely that he left any especially useful hints, especially since he's not invested in the outcome of this game anymore, but I think it bears checking, at least. We do know that the Mafia didn't want him around, although that's probably just the usual 'strong player' targeting.

Also, I really, really hate these random votes. I think they get us exactly nowhere and have a much better chance of hurting us than helping us. It also strikes me as potentially a way for a Mafia member to fly under the radar, just because they can increase the chances of a lynch without having to explain their reasoning and whatnot (and risk getting caught saying something that doesn't quite add up)...however, I'm suspicious of Lightvayne every game and I'm wrong about him every game, and that doesn't seem a strong enough reason to pursue him.

I don't think a lynch this day round is necessary, and I haven't paid close enough attention this game (yet) to warrant casting a vote for any of my very minor suspicions.

I think a no kill is the best option. We're at a good ratio right now.

While the random vote from me probably wasn't necessary, it at least sparked some conversation, something that suddenly seemed to stop happening before I posted.

I still say a no kill is stupid, how the hell are we going to win if you don't at least try and get a mafia kill. We might as well just abandon the game and wait for them to kill us one by one. No new info is coming guys. He have no cop and our only power roles are a double voter and a lawyer role I still don't completely understand.

{fp}

I agree, I think a No Kill is pretty dumb. It makes a lot more sense with our ratio to go for a kill and then analyze who votes for who and who abstains from voting.

Like I said before, I would rather we just left Lightvayne/Evilguy alone for now. I don't think either one of them is mafia, and if they aren't, then it would have made sense for the mafia to sit back and do nothing last round, rather than get involved and potentially come under scrutiny. I think it's also possible that the Double Voter may be avoiding getting involved in lynches as well, which has been a pretty common way to play the role (and, again, the DV is not worthless: he adds 1 to our ratio). So, I'm somewhat hesitant to attack these players, but I really don't have anything else to work with.

Going to just go with my gut here, I guess. If nothing serious comes up tomorrow, I'll be voting for Roxas then.

No kill is a bad idea, but kill Dooku is a worse idea.

I'm more inclined to vote for LLightvayne based on my original suspicions over the cop-doubting and random voting. But moreso because the individual now voting for me seems convinced he's innocent. If that turns out not to be the case, we might have a pointer in the right direction.

That assumption, of course, based on "because I just still don't see much of a strong argument for either of them being mafia".

And yet a gut feeling is good enough for a vote for me {:?}

At this point, a NoKill is not going to get us anywhere. The Town gets more information from a kill, even if it's a Townie, than by letting the Mafia do all the killing.

If we are assuming that Apollo gave her Gun to a Mafia who then shot her, I can think of a few people who would want a Town-sided Apollo out of the way. Although I'm not ready to vote for any of them yet.

I really don't want to vote for any of the already voted for people.

Chief seems to be his Townie self getting annoyed at people for what he thinks are foolish actions.

white lancer and Dooku have contributed useful information, something they do when they are Townies. Granted, this doesn't make them innocent.

Still thinking...

I have went back and looked at past post in this game and other games and my gut still tells me that both Count Dooku and `Roxas` are probably Mafia.

I'll probably be Mafia killed in the up comning Night Round for this post, but that's part of the game.

With 15 min. left in the game it may be time to stop thinking and start acting.

Well I agree that no kill isn't going to get us anywhere so let's commit I guess.

Don't push chief.

I hope this isn't a mistake.

The person that tries to tie this game will be one of your Mafia members.

Sorry. Just didn't want this round to end in another No Kill. It's been boring enough.

get fucked

Important message from Dooku:

>:C

Lightvayne confirmed innocent, who wants to give me a suckle