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game 29 main thread night 6

Posted September 10, 2014 by Castrael

Day 6 has arrived earlier than expected. Nothing too exiting has happened. The Butler has kinda left, bored out of his soulless mind.

LadyFlare: Double Voter has been killed by the last remaining Mafia.

Hindenburg: Townie has been Host Killed for obvious reasons.

The Players
  • MajorasMask9 – Serial Killer
  • Black Yoshi – Godfather
  • white lancer
  • EvilGuy0613
  • Speed Bike Pro
  • Bubba - Townie
  • Lightvayne
  • Roxas - Mafioso
  • Jo Nathan - Mafioso
  • Chaos Incarnate – Townie
  • SDYoshi
  • Lady Flare - Double Voter
  • The Bandit – Townie
  • Pirate Ninja
  • Apollo Justice - Gunsmith
  • Count Dooku – Framer
  • Hindenburg - Host Killed
  • chiefsonny - Townie
  • Hezekiah - Cop

    Ratio
    1, 5,

    Day Priorities
    None

    Still Alive
    Townies x4 , Lawyer
    Mafia Investigator

    Notes
  • OOG is not allowed.
  • Night talk will be on. (Since Night Talk is on, DO NOT make any votes at night. If you do, you will be penalized.)
  • Vote Locking will be on. (Vote locking is when a person is not allowed to change their vote once it is cast for that round.)
  • If you haven’t made your action and 24/72 hours are up, the game will continue as it should.
  • Framer is taken from Epic Mafia.

    You have 24 hours or until 4 votes are in.

  • There are 40 Replies


    Meant to be 72 hours but I'm going to shorten these rounds to 48. If that's okay with everybody. Or, if you do want 24 hours we can do that as well.

    September 10, 2014
    Castrael

    lol

    September 10, 2014
    Speed Bike Pro
     

    {fp}

    I'm going back to my original gut here. I say kill off Evilguy

    September 10, 2014
    Lightvayne

    Now that I'm thinking about it, didn't we already win? Think about it, lets say the last mafia does manage to kill everyone else off leaving only a 1v1 situation. All the last remaining town member has to do is vote to kill for the town win.

    At this point I see no possible way for the mafia to win. Game Over. Townies win.

    September 10, 2014
    Lightvayne

    Yeah, it's pretty much a vanilla game with a mafia kill every night. It could go on for another couple of rounds. It's best we end it now. I think

    September 10, 2014
    Castrael

    Game will continue on. No, you don't win. The Mafia'll win if it's a 1v1 ratio.

    September 10, 2014
    Castrael

    Yeah, let's end it!

    September 10, 2014
    Speed Bike Pro
     

    Wish I gotten a chance to post yesterday but I was gone all day. Considering how Speed has been playing I didn’t really think Lady Flare needed to prove she was the double voter but also considering that Bubba was innocent…I guess it would’ve played out the same way..

    Lightvanye, I’m surprised you’re back on this...Keep in mind I did help vote two of the mafia members off. Maybe under some circumstances I would vote one of my own to throw the suspicion off but two of them? It’s unlike me….It is also true I did vote Chaos off but so did others which turned out to be a mistake. That’s pretty much my only defense at this point. Well…read through the rounds again and…I don’t know I think the last mafia member has to be between Speed, Pirate or SDYoshi though I’m leaning a bit more towards Speed and SDYoshi. Unless white lancer has been trying to throw us off this whole time I believe he could be innocent. I also noticed that Roxas voted for him early on and Roxas turned out to be mafia so that’s something to go on I guess. Well if nobody has any objections I’m going to vote Speed and not just because he’s voting for me…If he turns out to be townie then we’d be getting rid of a townie screwing with the town. It would also get rid of the confusion and any possible chances the town can get screwed over.

    September 11, 2014
    EvilGuy0613

    Put a sock in it, mafia scum.

    September 11, 2014
    Speed Bike Pro
     

    reading back to try and make up for lost time here...

    white lancer seems pretty on-the-level imo...he did spend a bit of time focused on targeting Bubba (even voting for him over Roxas), but I tend to agree with the reasoning he's shared. Roxas also cast a flippant vote for him on Day 3 "for the sake of preventing a mislynch this round" when chiefsonny had one vote. Voting No Kill would've accomplished the same thing, so even if he did decide to throw another name out there to tie the vote, it strikes me as unlikely that he'd take the risk of choosing a fellow mafia member - especially a power role still of use to his team.


    EvilGuy doesn't seem particularly suspicious to me either...I think The Bandit and white lancer spelled it out pretty well earlier in analyzing the Day 1 vote and his support of the Count Dooku lynch. Both situations seem to point toward his innocence imo.


    Speed is a wildcard, which does concern me. He's either town-sided and joking around to the point that it can actually hurt his team, or the final mafia member making a spectacle of things - be it for kicks or as a diversion. Falsely counterclaiming Double-Voter potentially puts the real deal at risk (Bubba even voted for her as a result). He might be killed if he's the Lawyer and the last mafia member wants the power roles gone, but if Speed is a Townie, I doubt he'll be nightkilled at this point - so we'll be left to ponder his behavior (and hope he cooperates with his vote). And since the remaining mafia member is the Mafia Investigator, they'd be able to find out whether that's the case.


    I have mixed feelings on Lightvayne. Glossing over the whole random-vote thing (I don't draw much from it since it's a risk for either side to take with vote locking on), I still see things that make me lean a little to each side with him. To his credit, he was one of the earlier votes for Roxas. It may have been too early for one mafia member to throw another under the bus, but if he thought it was a likely lynch to go through it'd certainly make him look better to support it - which would surely come in handy if he ended up alone. Giving the ol' Ctrl-F a workout, I also noticed:

    Perhaps Lightvayne didn't notice (or forgot) that vote locking is on, so I wouldn't use that as any kind of solid evidence. To be frank, I'd be more interested in looking at those who are quick to condemn him.

    Jo Nathan, Day 1
    Not a whole lot to go off of, except for maybe EvilGuy's counter vote for Lightvayne, but that's not an indicator by any means.

    Roxas, Day 1
    Referring to SDYoshi and Lightvayne, specifically. Neither of whom have made any particularly interesting moves that would point toward a diagnosis of Mafia Scum.

    Count Dooku, Day 3

    hardly damning evidence imo, even if they'd been overt defenses, but taken as a group it does give me slight pause. It's somewhat allayed by Dooku flipping on him once his own name came up, but exit speeches are a tricky thing...and I think he was likely expecting that vote to gain traction since he'd already been called out by a few players as suspicious and the town didn't have any solid leads.


    and I...don't feel like there's a whole lot for me to go on with regard to SDYoshi suggesting either innocence or guilt. Count Dooku did mention him not looking suspicious, but that's not saying much (and frankly, I think suggesting the contrary would've made him look suspect). In the absence of much hard fact, I feel like his behavior seems to be more genuinely innocent...though to be honest I am basing that in part on how he played the last Adventure game.

    September 11, 2014
    Pirate_Ninja

    Ah I seemed to have missed that part with Lightvanye. That is interesting. Well right now I think our best choices are either Speed or SDYoshi. Sense you mentioned mafia isn't likely to night kill Speed I think that's the better option. I'd feel more comfortable getting rid of any possible confusion for the last rounds of the game anyways.

    September 11, 2014
    EvilGuy0613

    Note: wasn't being serious about Evilguys vote, I just wanted to see who would quickly jump on the bandwagon.

    SBP, you have been doing some odd stuff this whole game, trying to start up a bandwagon so quickly didn't help the case and some of the evidence just presented supports that.

    With that in mind...

    September 11, 2014
    Lightvayne

    I think it's prudent to point out at this point that Hindenburg counts as one of our 4 votes (since Roxas died, that is). We have 2 lynches left to hit a Mafia member, and we have 1 day to No Kill--which may be prudent to do, maybe next round, just to increase the odds of hitting on the last round. Mathmatically speaking it would raise the chance from 25% to 33.3%, although that's mitigated by the fact that the Mafia are likely to kill the player least likely to get voted off anyway.

    I think Speed is unlikely to be Mafia, but the idea of him being able to troll his way to the win as the final Mafia is a little frightening, haha. I'm not sure if I would pick him as one of our two most suspicious players, but it would certainly make us all feel a little foolish if he was Mafia and got away with a falseclaim.

    September 11, 2014
    white lancer

    Looking at things now I think SDYoshi could be innocent. It seems like the last remaining mafia is someone active and paying attention which SDYoshi seems to be quite inactive this game. Well unless he's just really being quiet on purpose but it seems more like he's inactive. (Not counting him out just yet though.) Speed I'm about fifty, fifty on but now I'm kind of starting to think Pirate Ninja could be the guy...?

    September 11, 2014
    EvilGuy0613

    So, uhh... if the rounds are shortened to 48 hours then this one ended an hour ago...

    September 12, 2014
    Speed Bike Pro
     

    We're going to end the game at the 72 mark. I haven't talked to Majora or Apollo. So, sorry for any confusion.

    So, it'll be on Sat. But, I work sat 930a to 4p. I won't be able to update it til after work.

    September 12, 2014
    Castrael

    Well, is we have a little over a day left, we need to get some votes up there. The town cannot win if we don't vote. Not sure what the heck everyone is waiting for. (crs)

    September 12, 2014
    Lightvayne

    Didn't want to vote without at least discussing things first but whatever...

    Voting Speed I guess.

    September 12, 2014
    EvilGuy0613

    Sorry, I've been sick for a couple of days.
    I'd vote for SBP but I'd like to give some time for him to claim if he's the lawyer, so we don't waste our lynch.

    I'm still looking at Lightvayne.

    September 12, 2014
    SDYoshi

    And even if I don't vote, the SBP lynch will go through.
    I'm not trying to hinder things close to the deadline.

    September 12, 2014
    SDYoshi

    oh no. don't hurt me. please.

    September 13, 2014
    Speed Bike Pro
     

    (no)

    lynching Speed feels like a coinflip at this point, but it's a risk I'd rather take on Day 6 than Day 7, if only because a cooperative vote will be that much more valuable

    September 13, 2014
    Pirate_Ninja

    I don't realy care that much to be honest. If he turns out to be town sided then maybe he should've tried to act more town sided I guess.

    No regrets on my end and it'll narrow down the numbers anyway.

    September 13, 2014
    EvilGuy0613

    please. anything but that. NO.

    September 13, 2014
    Speed Bike Pro
     

    We don't technically need to vote this round, as I pointed out earlier--it doesn't actually change the number of times we get to lynch this game. I'm mostly thinking Speed is a Townie trying to cause havoc, but I guess he could always be the final Mafia member trying a very unusual strategy. Seems unlikely anyone else will get lynched this round, though, so I'm fine with it.

    EvilGuy, I was also thinking Pirate_Ninja was probably the most suspicious one. I believe I mentioned before that he was following a lot of the same signs chief identified in Roxas--active enough not to draw attention to himself, but also not saying enough to incriminate himself. He's probably my best suspect of now...of course, as the game shrinks, everyone starts to look a little more suspicious and I start to doubt every read I've had up to that point. ;)

    September 13, 2014
    white lancer

    Well if you think we should not kill this round then you can try and tie the votes. Going this route will leave 2 vs 1 near the end of the game if we mislynch the next day round. May be easier to tell who's what with less people around but it's kind of risky.

    September 13, 2014
    EvilGuy0613

    right, which is why I'm not too fixated on whether it's Speed or a No Kill - if we mislynch today, it makes a lot of sense to NK tomorrow just because of the numbers involved. But as I said, if we're going to lynch him at all, I think it's a bit safer not to delay it - avoiding the chance that his vote could be used to cause a deadlock or something. One No Kill narrows the field, but two means we only get one lynch.

    September 13, 2014
    Pirate_Ninja

    SAVE ME, LAWYER, THIS IS A GRAVE MISTAKE work bye

    September 13, 2014
    Speed Bike Pro
     

    I highly doubt it mafia scum.

    U go die now wit ur other scum buddiez

    September 13, 2014
    Lightvayne

    I'll be updating now.

    September 13, 2014
    Castrael

    Night 6 has arrived:

    The town has decided to kill Speed Bike Pro: a Townie.

    The Players
  • MajorasMask9 – Serial Killer
  • Black Yoshi – Godfather
  • white lancer
  • EvilGuy0613
  • Speed Bike Pro - Townie
  • Bubba - Townie
  • Lightvayne
  • Roxas - Mafioso
  • Jo Nathan - Mafioso
  • Chaos Incarnate – Townie
  • SDYoshi
  • Lady Flare – Double Voter
  • The Bandit – Townie
  • Pirate Ninja
  • Apollo Justice - Gunsmith
  • Count Dooku – Framer
  • Hindenburg – Townie/Host Killed
  • chiefsonny - Townie
  • Hezekiah - Cop

    Ratio
    1, 4,

    Night Priorities
  • Lawyer
  • Mafia Kill
  • Mafia Investigator

    Still Alive
    Townies x3 , Lawyer
    Mafia Investigator

    Notes
  • OOG is not allowed.
  • Night talk will be on. (Since Night Talk is on, DO NOT make any votes at night. If you do, you will be penalized.)
  • Vote Locking will be on. (Vote locking is when a person is not allowed to change their vote once it is cast for that round.)
  • If you haven’t made your action and 24/72 hours are up, the game will continue as it should.
  • Framer is taken from Epic Mafia.

  • September 13, 2014
    Castrael

    I'm going to shorten the game to 48 hours after this. I'm pretty sure the dead players would like to play again. xD

    September 13, 2014
    Castrael

    Son of a ....{fp}

    September 13, 2014
    Lightvayne

    Yeah, not too surprising. I did think about tieing the vote, but it didn't feel like it would accomplish much...probably should have just gone with my instincts on that one, though they've been not especially accurate thus far this game.

    I guess I'm still on the Pirate train? Ugh...the unfortunate part about this part of the game is that I start second-guessing every read I've had thus far. SD Yoshi is probably my second pick, but I've also had points where I was convinced he was innocent. Lightvayne is certainly an option, but past games have shown me that I just don't have a good read on him...eh. And there's always the chance that I've just completely misread EvilGuy. Oh, well...out of everyone who remains, Pirate does feel like the one who has been the least 'helpful' to the Town (in that it doesn't feel like he's been trying to figure out the Mafia members as actively as the rest of the players).

    September 14, 2014
    white lancer

    Well it's a tough tricky situation indeed but I guess all you can do at this point is go over everyone's actions one last time and then go with your instincts since next day round will be the last. I'll say again that I believe the last remaining Mafia is Pirate or SDYoshi though I'm leaning to the point of falling off that Pirate is the guy. Reason? Well everyone has at least something tying them to their innocents. Pirate, I don't really see anything that can make him innocent.

    September 14, 2014
    EvilGuy0613

    I'd rather not be the mislynch that costs the town a win - it's just hard to be very productive in mafia while on vacation. I've been trying to make up for it back at home, but at this rate I'll just get strung along to be strung up :\

    I'm still thinking either it's Lightvayne or SDYoshi, and while it's not impossible I doubt the mafia kill (or kills, if we No Kill tomorrow to narrow the field of options) will do a whole lot to narrow that down - players drawing less suspicion are mafia bane at this point.

    September 14, 2014
    Pirate_Ninja

    I agree with Lightvayne being the last lynch, not so sure about Pirate. And I'm certain it isn't SDYoshi.
    I feel like we really threw away the last lynch. That isn't good, considering we only have 1 left.

    September 14, 2014
    SDYoshi

    If the Investigator hasn't figured out the lawyer by this point, I'm going to laugh.

    September 14, 2014
    SDYoshi

    Oh yeah. Lawyer, self target, if you can.
    In case you haven't been doing so up until now.

    September 14, 2014
    SDYoshi

    Hey guys, since all night actions are in, I'll go and update.

    September 14, 2014
    Castrael

    This thread is locked