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game 3 thread 3 night 3 celebrate good times

Posted April 13, 2012 by Yeano

Day 3

Oh dear. Some deadly stuff has happened.

Found this morning, dead on the ground, was white lancer. He was a Mason.

Also dead was #85, who had been beaten to death. He was a townie.

1. white lancer - Mason
2. Shadowwalked
3. #85 - Townie
4. `Roxas`
5. Xhin - Cultist
6. poptart!
7. Zanic
8. hezekiah
9. Knukles2000
10. CtR Black
11. MajorasMask9
12. LLight
13. chiefsonny
14. Teddy-Son

Mafia-Town-Cult Ratio: 2-7-2

Roles: Godfather, Silencer, Cop, Doctor, Mason, Cult, Townie

72 hours or 7 votes.

WARNING: If your role changes to "Silenced" you may not speak in this thread or in the CULT or MASON thread while your role says "Silenced." If you do, you will be killed by a host-kill.

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Whoever is a mason should reveal who they are and whoever white lancer targeted to recruit. Considering two people died and only one was a mason, it's clear that he attempted to recruit a mafioso.

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MajorasMask9

Damn! That sucked dude. Yeah. Possibly another mason will know who Lancer voted for?

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Zanic

I don't think that we need the masons to open up, especially because the only way to prove their position is through death. A mafia or cult member could claim to be mason and point the finger at a townie.

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hezekiah

If anyone counterclaims mason they're setting themselves up for a lynching. In fact, I think it would be better for the mason to post who they are before revealing who whitelancer recruited then wait for anyone to counterclaim. If nobody counterclaims, they're the only mason. If there's more than one, one of them is a liar.

The most likely to counterclaim mason right now would be the mafia. If one of the mafia steps up to claim mason on top of the real mason, they'll be lynched when we figure out who's lying. To top it off, if that does happen, and the person that falsely claims mason is mafia but wasn't the one white lancer recruited, then we'd have figured out both mafia members. Again, this is assuming someone from the mafia actually decides to counterclaim.

The mason target is important information at this point and can get rid of one of two main problems: The silencer--who could potentially stop the cop or anyone with information from posting--and the godfather who's not detectable by the cop.

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MajorasMask9

We should consider the role of the mason, and maybe they wont have to come forward.

They recruit a member every turn.

Obviously, they're not going to recruit someone they think are suspicious.

Therefore White Lancer died recruiting someone who was not suspicious to him.

We should go after the least suspicious members.

In my opinion, that's zanic, marjora, and teddy-son.

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CtR Black

Or the mason could come forward and leave guessing out of the equation entirely. I still think this is the best move we could possibly make at this point in the game: We still (hopefully) have a doctor, and even if--worst case--the mason does die, they can still recruit someone before they are killed.

We can't go the entire game without claiming roles or it stays a blind game for the entirety. The more people that claim roles, the more contradictions will pop up. While there are reasons why doing this in the start of the game isn't very smart, there comes a point where the benefits will outweigh the negatives.

As it stands, these are the roles that we have:

Silencer
Godfather
Cop
Doctor
Townie
Townie
Townie
Townie
Townie
Townie
Townie

For both of the mafia roles, there is a possibility that one of them is cult (ONLY one though: or else white lancer would not have died from recruiting a mafioso). For each town-sided role, there is a possibility that ONE is a mason, and TWO are cultists.

That said, I'm a townie that hasn't been converted by either the cultists or masons.

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MajorasMask9

That said, I'm a townie that hasn't been converted by either the cultists or masons.

Because our words can TOTALLY be instant truth in this game.

Anyway... I don't think the masons should tell their roles. There is most likely TWO Masons. If they say who they are, the mafia will likely kill one, and silence the other (preventing them from recruiting another mason) And then kill the silenced one the NEXT ROUND. Then we are screwed between a mafia, or Cult win most likely.

Also, giving our roles is a bad idea in general... sure, it could help, but we have NO IDEA at all if everyone is tell the truth. PLUS, cult or mafia could easily use it to their advantage...

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Knukles2000

I am confused. During the last round when Xhin was killed, Yeano made this thread for day 2. So instead of making a new thread he continues to use this thread for day 3? I mean there is already a lot of posts into here and just trying to look at all of the posts are going to be annoying and take up a lot of space.

So why did Yeano not make another thread for new stuff to come up with and not have to take forever just to reply?

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Teddy-Son

Because our words can TOTALLY be instant truth in this game.

Not forcing you to believe me. In fact, if everyone claimed, I'm sure we'd have four liars among us.

There is most likely TWO Masons.

One mason. White lancer made it pretty apparent that there were two masons in the last round (re-read his posts). Since one townie died and one mason died, the mason had to have died from recruiting someone that's mafia, as there are no other killing roles outside of the mafia. Since the masons attempted to recruit someone that is mafia-sided, there is currently only one mason.

Then we are screwed between a mafia, or Cult win most likely.

Don't forget that we still have lots of townies around. They'll--most likely--ultimately be the source of success for the town.

Also, giving our roles is a bad idea in general... sure, it could help, but we have NO IDEA at all if everyone is tell the truth.

That's the idea. If people lie, we can limit the mafia/cult to a set of people and possibly clear some people in the process. If someone claims cop and nobody counterclaims, they're theoretically cleared and confirmed innocent. If two people claimed doctor, one of the two would obviously be lying. It's a way to get to the truth of the matter, and it's better than sitting around and no-killing, or simply voting based on who looks more suspicious based on what they type.

PLUS, cult or mafia could easily use it to their advantage...

Yep, that's the only disadvantage to mass roleclaiming. However, if it exposes liars in the process, then the town is at an advantage.

Right now the mason has a nice trump card up their sleeves: They know the identity of one person in the mafia. If we mass roleclaimed--and lets say two people claimed cop--if one of the two that claimed cop was the person that white lancer targeted, the mason speaking up and pointing them out would give us an instant guilty/innocent. If the mafia wanted even a chance to save their player at that point, the other one would have to counterclaim mason, at which case both mafia members would be exposed in the open.

Something to consider.

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MajorasMask9

Not forcing you to believe me. In fact, if everyone claimed, I'm sure we'd have four liars among us.

OF COURSE. But WHO would the liars be? We have NO way of knowing even then.

One mason. White lancer made it pretty apparent that there were two masons in the last round (re-read his posts). Since one townie died and one mason died, the mason had to have died from recruiting someone that's mafia, as there are no other killing roles outside of the mafia. Since the masons attempted to recruit someone that is mafia-sided, there is currently only one mason.

I see. But all the more reason for him to not tell who he is. The mafia will jump all over that, even IF he knows one, theres still another, then theres the ENTIRE cult. We NEED him to stay alive.

Don't forget that we still have lots of townies around. They'll--most likely--ultimately be the source of success for the town.

Assuming they don't suspect the wrong people, and vote each other out.

That's the idea. If people lie, we can limit the mafia/cult to a set of people and possibly clear some people in the process. If someone claims cop and nobody counterclaims, they're theoretically cleared and confirmed innocent. If two people claimed doctor, one of the two would obviously be lying. It's a way to get to the truth of the matter, and it's better than sitting around and no-killing, or simply voting based on who looks more suspicious based on what they type.

A mason telling who they are should be avoided. as I said above. But IF the cop is around, that would be a good idea, however, I get the feeling neither he, or the doctor is among us anymore. As I think the cop would of spoke up by now, and the doctor would have saved someone.

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Knukles2000

Remember if all thats left is townies, and cults, it's cult victory hands down, it's hopeless.

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Knukles2000

So Knukles, I suppose you expect us to sit back and random lynch the entire game?

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MajorasMask9

So Knukles, I suppose you expect us to sit back and random lynch the entire game?

No, I don't. Heres a better, safer proposal. The Mason can either say who they suspected stealthily, and hope the others go along with it, we can go on who acted the most suspicious, we can look back, and pay attention to who voted for who. Think WHAT would a mafia or Cult vote at that appointed time. I'm no Llight, but I know theres a better way than your death trap of a plan.

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Knukles2000

The Mason can either say who they suspected stealthily, and hope the others go along with it, we can go on who acted the most suspicious, we can look back, and pay attention to who voted for who.

If they're going to "stealthily" claim they might as well just outright say it. We're doing this to lynch a mafioso. If one person picks up on someone's "stealthy" claims, everyone else will as well.

I'm no Llight, but I know theres a better way than your death trap of a plan.

I'd be curious to hear what Llight would say in regard to this TBH.

Your concern is that the mason will die if they reveal themselves. Right now, we most likely have a doctor. The doctor should protect the mason (no WIFOM shenanigans or anything like that: we're playing safe). Afterward, the mason will recruit someone or kill a cultist (or, die from recruiting the other mafia member, which would be unavoidable regardless of our actions this round).

Or, perhaps it would be in the mafia's best interest to not kill the person that is confirmed mason if they're interested in getting rid of the cultists. The mafia is the only one that can choose who they kill, cultists and masons have no say in that.

There are a lot of different possibilities but none of them will come to light if we all withhold information the entire game.

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MajorasMask9

It could just be me going too far in analyzing what has been said, but I think Zanic may well be in the Cult. He seemed to eager to get out of the last day round when there was more information to gain in the time we had.

It just doesn't make much sense as to why a Town sided role would want the day to end so rapidly without much reason other than to just take a risk with what the night might bring to the town. One thing is for sure, though, we can not just keep no voting until the Mafia or Cult take us all out of the equation.

My vote will be to kill Zanic.

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`Roxas`

I highly doubt we have a doctor. He would of done something by now. And by the looks of it the mason is either silenced, or hates your plan.

But anyway... this is getting us nowhere. If no one is going to step up, we have no choice but to blind vote until someone DOES step up. Because they MAY never speak up.

As such I vote Zanic

He's been suspicious to me since the beginning, and he may well be Cult atm.

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Knukles2000

I highly doubt we have a doctor. He would of done something by now.
Who's to say he hasn't done anything? He could have just protected people who weren't targeted.

And by the looks of it the mason is either silenced, or hates your plan.
Or that he's currently inactive.

I'd much rather wait to see if anyone speaks up than vote blindly. There's also a cop that could still be around on top of a mason that definitely knows the identity of one mafioso. Now would be the time to speak up rather than later.

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MajorasMask9

I suddenly don't know why people consider me suspicious. I saw that the round was going nowhere and I'm impatient. If I tell you that I am in fact a townie, you won't believe me anyway. The best I can do is hope that you don't lynch me.

I'm almost convinced that Teddy-Son isn't mafia since he probably wouldn't think to kill someone that they silenced the round before. I don't know why CtR suspects me.

I'm not going to play the whole blame game, so I'm just going to stick with my original feeling.

I vote for poptart!

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Zanic

I still have no idea on who to vote on. Roxas seems like a smart guy and not too confusing about all the math like Llight. It might be a little late to sacrifice a random vote. But he sounds right, Zanic could be trying to get out of this too fast. I will go with that and put my vote on Zanic.

So I vote Zanic.

If it turns out that he is a doctor or a townie then my bad but I'll put my chips up and see how they go. I could be wrong but I'd rather pick him. Plus I just felt like he could be planning something.

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Teddy-Son

We still have three days to talk this out

I'm almost convinced that Teddy-Son isn't mafia since he probably wouldn't think to kill someone that they silenced the round before.

They did this to hezekiah last round. I dont think its a bad strategy.

This also emphasizes how little we suspect teddy-son. Just like right now he's blending in. If he's mafia, he's doing a great job not drawing attention to himself.

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CtR Black

Teddy isn't very.... experienced in... games such as this, CtR. I bet he's blending cause he's easy to see through. My point being, he's prolly a simple townie, with nothing to hide.

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Knukles2000

I'm suspicious of you too knuckles. #85 is dead after all. silenced, and then killed.

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CtR Black

I would think Knuckles was a mafia or cult based on how highly he acts towards 85. Then again he is almost always high in what he says. To be honest that's what I originally thought anyway. But now that 85 is dead he could just as easily be townie. But I am not throwing anyone off. Anyone one of us could be an anti-townie and anyone has their beliefs on what they think.

This is why I would just go with who seems to sound smart, to be knowing what he or she is talking about. If I am just following the smart guy like a sheep, blindly the whatever. I'll catch on eventually and figure out just going on something different then logic.

Right now, I am still a little confused but whatever, I die, I die its a game that all. Not that I am a rush to get voted off its just I am not going to keep what a think about someone 100% I'll whatever the crowd suspects at the moment. But with all this confusing chatter I will most likely be lurking to see how this plays out.

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Teddy-Son

I'm sorry if I gave any of you reason to be suspicious of me. It seems now that no matter what I do, I am considered suspicious. I once again say that I am a townie.

I'm suspicious of you too knuckles. #85 is dead after all. silenced, and then killed.

Not a bad suspicion at all. Knukles was being very aggressive towards #85 at the start. I'm starting to get my suspicions of him as well.

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Zanic

Also he was very quick to defend Teddy. Why so sure of yourself Knukles? Teddy could very well be mafia or cult as well as any of us.

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Zanic

I'm suspicious of you too knuckles. #85 is dead after all. silenced, and then killed.

Complete coincidence. That, or the silencer is trying to frame me... which would be a brilliant move. Do you TRULY think i'm that stupid? I'd know not to silence, then kill him.

Not a bad suspicion at all. Knukles was being very aggressive towards #85 at the start. I'm starting to get my suspicions of him as well.

Lol, #85 attacked me first, smart one. OF COURSE I did.

Why so sure of yourself Knukles? Teddy could very well be mafia or cult as well as any of us.

Possibly because I know something you don't.

But for now... i'm just throwing stuff out there the way I see it, and so are both of you. You can bowlshit me all day, but we both have opinions.

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Knukles2000

As of now, I'm most suspicious of poptart. As memory serves, he and #85 both didn't post during Day Two (were they the only ones?). And #85 got killed the following night, so odds are the mafia did to him what they did to me. As of now, 4 people haven't posted today: Shadowwalked, poptart!, LLight, chiefsonny. My guess is either Light or chief is silenced this round (or mafia), as they're usually talkative.

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hezekiah

Watdafuq, it hates exclamation points for me.

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hezekiah

Possibly because I know something you don't.

I heard you posted something like that last game and you ended up leading the lynch of the doctor. So I'm not believing that crap for one second.

As of now, I'm most suspicious of poptart. As memory serves, he and #85 both didn't post during Day Two (were they the only ones?). And #85 got killed the following night, so odds are the mafia did to him what they did to me. As of now, 4 people haven't posted today: Shadowwalked, poptart!, LLight, chiefsonny. My guess is either Light or chief is silenced this round (or mafia), as they're usually talkative.

I agree with the silenced part. And poptart hasn't really said anything, so I have no clue whether or not to be suspicious of him, I'm just ticked that he's not helping us at all.

And those of you voting for me, don't give me any of that "if you're not mafia or cult, then I'm sorry" crap. You either go all in, or you don't. That doesn't give you an excuse when you lynch a townie.

It could just be me going too far in analyzing what has been said, but I think Zanic may well be in the Cult. He seemed to eager to get out of the last day round when there was more information to gain in the time we had.

And to answer this Roxas, why would I want to speed up the round? No suspicion was on me, so what would I have had to worry about? I see though how you could think that suspicious. But under the circumstances I was in, it wouldn't benefit me at all.

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Zanic

And those of you voting for me, don't give me any of that "if you're not mafia or cult, then I'm sorry" crap. You either go all in, or you don't. That doesn't give you an excuse when you lynch a townie.

If your not a mafia or cult, sorry. But we gotta do what we think is best. We could always be wrong though.

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Knukles2000

If your not a mafia or cult, sorry. But we gotta do what we think is best. We could always be wrong though.

I feel though that when people say that and they lynch a townie, it gives them an excuse to say "Oh well, my bad" But that's a huge deal. So think hard about this before you all pile onto me. Because that's the kind of stuff that loses games for us.

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Zanic

I heard you posted something like that last game and you ended up leading the lynch of the doctor. So I'm not believing that crap for one second.

Your loss if I actually do, btw. Lady luck does not grant us the same fate everytime.

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Knukles2000

And if you're implying what I think you're implying, then I don't understand why you would know something about Teddy. All game he's been confused and you always argue that he's new. If he's so confused, then why question him? Just seems to me like that would be the least suspicious person and a stupid way to go if you were a certain role.

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Zanic

I feel though that when people say that and they lynch a townie, it gives them an excuse to say "Oh well, my bad" But that's a huge deal. So think hard about this before you all pile onto me. Because that's the kind of stuff that loses games for us.

ya win some, ya lose some. But theres rly not much to go on with this being internet, the cop hasn't spoken up, the Mason is prolly silenced, and the the doctor is either Cult, Mason, or severely inactive.

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Knukles2000

ya win some, ya lose some. But theres rly not much to go on with this being internet, the cop hasn't spoken up, the Mason is prolly silenced, and the the doctor is either Cult, Mason, or severely inactive.

So you're just going to pile onto me without any hard evidence. Sounds like a stupid plan and a way to lose as a townie. But if you're cult or mafia, it sounds like a perfect plan to just shoot in the dark and hope you hit.

And I don't know why everyone is confused about roles being their roles. Doesn't Yeano post the roles remaining under the list of people?

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Zanic

Your our best suspicion. I'm sry. but thats the way it goes.

And I don't know why everyone is confused about roles being their roles. Doesn't Yeano post the roles remaining under the list of people?

Only when their dead. >_> If our roles were shown, this game would prolly be over by now.

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Knukles2000

Your our best suspicion. I'm sry. but thats the way it goes.

Don't speak as a whole for everyone. I'm Roxas, Teddy, and your best suspicion. That doesn't mean crap. And I still don't see how I'm soooo suspicious.

And I hope all of you read these last few posts. Because I pointed out some really good details

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Zanic

Your suspicions are just as blind as mine, I assure you. That means your word against mine means nothing, and that means all we TRULY have is blind voting since all our evidence seems to be gone.

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Knukles2000

I at least have a reason to want to take out poptart and I have said it several times.

I also find it odd how you piled onto Roxas' vote. You were criticizing Llight for doing that in the beginning were you not? And you said you thought me suspicious from the beginning. If you did think that, why didn't you ever point it out. You're obviously playing the "make everything up and go for the easy people" card. Well I won't have any of it. That said, I change my vote.

I vote to kill Knukles.

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Zanic

I didn't pile onto Roxas's vote, actually. I didn't see his post before I was typing it out.

And I laugh at your vote change, Cult.

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Knukles2000

BTW, isn't constantly changing my vote something you wanted to go after me for? Lol.

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Knukles2000

Actually, he did point it out a few times during the first day. One of the first things he said was that he was suspicious of you.

I stated my reasoning for my vote to you, something entirely different from what Knukles or Teddy are thinking with their vote, most likely.

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`Roxas`

Knukles...so far I've pointed out many flaws with things you've done and said and you've failed to defend them. You're going after me and me only when your facts are based on no hard evidence, you don't have anything to be suspicious of me for, and you're acting very sporadic and I've had enough. I don't know if this is your game plan or not, but it won't work on me.

How come you only think I'm cult? Is it because you know I'm not your fellow mafia? I'm fairly convinced that you are indeed a member of the mafia and that's why I'm voting for you. My accusation is based on facts that I have collected and shown just from reading your posts specifically. If no one agrees with me, then so be it. Lynch me. It will just bring you all one step closer to losing this game. Plus I seem to be the one snaking out facts here. You really want to get rid of me? You only would if you weren't aligned with the town as I am.

As for you Roxas, I see how you think of me suspicious. I already pointed out a flaw in your plan. I'll re post it for you as I want an answer.

And to answer this Roxas, why would I want to speed up the round? No suspicion was on me, so what would I have had to worry about? I see though how you could think that suspicious. But under the circumstances I was in, it wouldn't benefit me at all.

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Zanic

Thats because your points are baseless, and your attempts clearly indicate you are someone of suspicion. I can not defend myself because 1. this is internet, what Can I do? and 2. your argument is so ridiculous that I shouldn't even have to address it. You see, you and #85 are both very reckless, and headstrong. You got your focus set on me, when I have done nothing strive for the best interest of the town, I mean look back at all I did, and threw out there. Let me spell this out for you if you don't get it. YOU DON'T HAVE HARD EVIDENCE EITHER. I am just going with you because 1. you are being very sporadic, unstable, quick to accuse, and and change your mind. I've had enough of YOU.

I didn't say JUST you. I certainly have my other suspicions. But one step at a time. WHAT FACTS? Like seriously. You haven't stated one real fact. The things you've done that was stated by me, and others, greatly indicate that you are indeed Cult.

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Knukles2000

Your failure to see everything I have pointed out about you is typical. I've been stating the many reasons why I am voting for you and all you have done is tried to defend them. The only reason you're voting for me is because you think I'm suspicious. What the Hell does that mean?! That's what I'm getting at. I've pointed out all the things that make me suspect you and all you have is a blind vote.

And to Roxas, that suspicion by Knukles at the beginning was not valid as there was absolutely no reason to vote for me whatsoever. Especially considering the fact that I hadn't even spoken yet. His suspicions have no validity and that's what I'm getting at.

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Zanic

I just did state my reasons. Can you read properly? Tbh.

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Knukles2000

You use that accusation every time. Just because people are like that, doesn't necessarily mean anything. I would ask you if you see anything actual evidence from my posts that would signify me as mafia or cult, but you'd deny it because you are mafia. I can't say I'm 100% right on this, but I've done a hell of a lot better debating then you have.

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Zanic

You use that accusation every time. Just because people are like that, doesn't necessarily mean anything.

And yet you are going after me for the same reasons, and none other. And YOU are using this same dried out excuse too over and over.

I would ask you if you see anything actual evidence from my posts that would signify me as mafia or cult, but you'd deny it because you are mafia.

The only way we COULD have evidence at this point is if you are Mafia or Cult. As such, you are just going on blind suspicion based on behavior as I am. BUT I DID state my reasons for my suspicions, the same as yours so they must be valid by your logic.

I can't say I'm 100% right on this, but I've done a hell of a lot better debating then you have.

That is a very headstrong statement to make. I guess we'll leave that to the town.

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Knukles2000

This is pointless and getting us nowhere. This is just us battering back and forth. If you are a townie, then I apologize and I'd expect you to do the same. But I am fairly sure that you are mafia. If you are a townie, then you are playing foolishly, but if you are a cult of mafia, I applaud you. I don't think you a cult member, but I definitely wouldn't forget this if I were the rest of the town. And if I am lynched, you realize the town is just going to turn on you. So this isn't even near over.

I am done for now. I will let the town decide who they agree with. But I grow tired of this argument.

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Zanic

The extent of my reasoning is just as I said. I see what you mean in regards to Knux's vote, and I'm sure there is more to it that he just isn't saying.

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`Roxas`

And Roxas, I can't really say that your mafia or not, but I am suspicious of you too. Your constant agreeing with Knukles is frustrating me. Both of you seem convinced that I am cult. I have read your posts and I don't see why you two wouldn't consider me a mafia. Regardless, I still am going against Knukles, but I'm not taking my eyes off you either Roxas.

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Zanic

Guess we'll just see, Zanic.

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Knukles2000

i dont think suspicions from the first round have much support.

what i said of knuckles is due to what happened to 85.

yallve already expressed your views on eacher other. yet youved focused on one or two people. theres plenty of time left, express your opinions on others. if you are narrow sighted and turn out to be wrong, all this will be for nothing

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CtR Black

You have fun reading all that CtR? Hahahaha. But yeah. Anyway, I have an open mind, it's just that I can't stand people voting for me for no specific reason. That's no way to win a game.

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Zanic

Hm

We already stated our specific reasons though. And that outburst just made it look all the more suspicious to me, and I assume them.

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Knukles2000

It wasn't an outburst. I didn't even mention your name. I could have meant Teddy as he did the same as you. And if you did state your reasons, I didn't see them and I still don't

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Zanic

i skimmed though it.

this reminds me of last game. this is actually why we lynched knuckles last game.

that being said, he was a townie, and he could be now. roxas was too. it could easily happen this round.

but three rounds into the game there have been people silently watching while we debate. i see why you would vote for poptart

as for not lynching quiet people. i think we should give them the first round, maybe the second. but three rounds with little input. lil suspicious

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CtR Black

Seemed like you kinda flipped out on me, and lost your real sense of reasoning, and blind attacked me, but meh.

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Knukles2000

I've barely even acknowledged Knukles this game, so how can I constantly agree with him? If anything, he's constantly agreeing with me. Who has been the person bringing up ideas for how to get through this game alive? Me. The only "agreeing" I did was when I pointed out his suspicions of you on Day One, and that was it.

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`Roxas`

I apologize Roxas. And to Knux, I didn't lose any reasoning whatsoever. I would switch back to poptart, but it's clear to me that he will have to wait. Even if I'm not lynched today, I wouldn't be surprised if I was killed by mafia tonight.

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Zanic

I'm not trying to make you or myself look like an ass in the midst of an argument.

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`Roxas`

And no hard feelings. I can see why you thought that.

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`Roxas`

I realize this. You've got to know though that if accused, I will defend myself. And agreed. This is a game and we're all a little paranoid.

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Zanic

i believe most of you were fond of lynching a silent player. maybe we could try this strategy?

that being said, i vote for teddy-son

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CtR Black

But I urge you all to not vote me out. I know there's no way to trust what I am saying, but if I don't get lynched, maybe I can take the fall in the night round as the mafia might think I'm onto something.

I am going to keep my vote until further evidence is provided.

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Zanic

and as for wanting the round to end quicker, i felt the same way. besides, noone spoke at the end that didnt speak earlier

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CtR Black

If I wanted to lynch a silent player, my vote would have gone to poptart from the start.

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`Roxas`

Exactly why I wanted to vote poptart originally. I wanted him out last round, because this is ridiculous. He's not doing sh**! We know he wasn't silenced. What would be the point in silencing him?

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Zanic

Well, the two of you have swayed my vote.

My vote to kill shall be for poptart.

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`Roxas`

Although I still want Knukles out of here, at least he's doing something. I want my original vote out more. I'm not done with you yet though Knukles ;)

My vote to kill switches back to poptart.

And get suspicious of me if you want for switching my vote yet again, but I am already being watched carefully, so it couldn't get worse.

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Zanic

I'm against the idea of lynching silent players tbh. The most likely people to stay silent are people that lost interest in the game, and the most likely to lose interest in the game are vanilla townies. While I agree they're deadweight, wasting a lynch on them seems dangerously pointless: If they ARE townies, the mafia/cult could easily just say "this guy has been silent... suspicious imo" and get a free town lynch, followed by a nightkill. The most likely to be active are the cult, mafia, and power roles, because they actually have some say in the flow of the game.

I'm voting for Knukles. I've been suspicious of him since the last day round for how little he seemed to care about the mafia and how focused he was on lynching the cult.

If I'm wrong and you're a power role, and actually do know something important, then speak up now and get it out.

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MajorasMask9

I of course have thought of that. ^

I realize it's a risk, but I don't like the idea f them ruining the game.

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Zanic

not that i care if i get lynched. But all i can say atm is that teddy is innocent, Poptart i am unsure of, Zanic is guity, though if he is mafia or cult, i'm still not sure. Majora, you I plan to check. that is, if i am still alive by rounds end. All I know. The rest is up to you.

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Knukles2000

The reason I am unsure about Poptart is because it seems more likely he is the godfather, and Teddy wouldn't be able to pull off such a role.

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Knukles2000

I think he's doing a pretty good job of whatever role he's playing

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CtR Black

Who is, CtR?

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Knukles2000

Changing my vote to Zanic

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MajorasMask9

Knukles, you failed to state Roxas or yourself. The two I suspect the most.

What make you change your vote Majoras?

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Zanic

I'm assuming Knukles is trying to claim cop. Am I right in assuming that, Knukles?

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MajorasMask9

Because I did not investigate Roxas or myself.

Of course. What else could i be claiming.

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Knukles2000

I'm assuming Knukles is trying to claim cop. Am I right in assuming that, Knukles?
Of course. What else could i be claiming.

Then zanic is obviously the doctor.

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CtR Black

Then zanic is obviously the doctor.

Not going to lie, I laughed a little on the inside...

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`Roxas`

Changing my vote back to Knukles.

There's no way I could believe that you're actually the cop with what you've said. You claim that two people are innocent (or godfather) and one is guilty, yet there have only been two night rounds, meaning you could have only checked two people total if you were the cop.

On top of that, you claim that you're not sure if Zanic is mafia or cult, yet Yeano clearly stated that if the cop checks a cultist, they will get a "Suspicious" result instead of a "Guilty" result. I'm sure he probably mentioned this in the cop thread himself on top of that.

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MajorasMask9

Knukles happened to imply that he was the cop last time and ended up lynching the doctor. So I don't know how long you people are going to believe him. He's leading you all astray.

I realize that Knukles is doing far more damage than poptart.

Sorry for the vote switching thing, but I vote to kill Knukles again.

Not going to lie, I laughed a little on the inside...

And why is that Roxas? Why are you so suspicious of me as well?

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Zanic

If Knuckles dies how many friends will Sonic have left?

And seriously, can we really trust MajorasMask? He once tried to destroy Termina with the moon!

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Teddy-Son

Are you being serious or joking around?

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Zanic

I'm not as suspicious of you now as I once was, based on the arguments you have provided since my original vote for you.

The reason I said that was because of last game when he implied he was the Cop and Xhin was the Doctor, resulting in the latter's death.

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`Roxas`

Ohhh. Hahaha. Sorry. I'm a little on edge.

And anyway Teddy. Don't vote based on friends, this is a game that the town(I'm assuming you're one of us) is trying to win. Read the posts and decide for yourself.

But I've had enough of Knukles' reckless playing.

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Zanic

Um..... what? How can Zanic be the doctor, AND guilty?

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Knukles2000

Zanic: Just trying to cool things down by bringing some humor here. I'm always this way.

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Teddy-Son

I don't see any other cop stepping up, dumbies. No seriously why can't you see how terrible you all are playing? I gave you your answer. I am the cop, now if you lynch me, the The mafia and cult will out number you all, and this game will be over for you. Lynch me, yes. but it's a waste. And you ALL will lose.

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Knukles2000

If you want to stick by your cop claim at this point, post your accurate cop results. As in, the night that you checked a player, and the result for that player.

Right now you honestly don't look like a cop, but if you somehow magically end up being the cop, we could use accurate info.

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MajorasMask9

Oh wow. You look just like a mafia atm. Very well.

Night 1. Investigated Poptart. Yeano gave it as innocent.

Night 2. Investigated Teddy-son. Innocent.

Night 3. Investigated Zanic. Guity. There you go. And btw, i'm not allowed to copy and past the exact posts. It's in the rules.

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Knukles2000

  • About thirty eight hours remain in the day.

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    `Roxas`

    No I have not been silenced.
    Yet{:D}

    Sorry for not posting sooner. I was out of state all day yesterday attending services for a friend that I served with in Vietnam. Got back late and was to tired to read through all these replies.

    Ok. We're 29 hours into this Day round and LLight has not made a post. He may be silenced or busy (I can understand that) and I have not had a chance to see if he has been posting in other forms.
    So I'm for waiting at least a full 48 hours to see if we hear from him or others.

    Now the poptart thing.
    Here is the only post he has made in this game.

    "whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat"

    That was day 1.

    I read in one of the post above (and I don't recall who said it) that he (poptart) may be a "reg townie and is bored" ssomething along those lines.

    Well I'm a reg townie and I'm not bored.
    If you get bored that easy, then this is probably not the game for you.

    Here's my point. I have my suspicions about different players just like the rest of you guys. And even if I or you are right about those suspicions at least those players are at least playing the game.
    So we vote one of those players out and give someone that does not seem to give a shit about the game a free ride. And who knows, Poptart may be Mafia or cult.

    Sorry guys but imo that's not fair and not the way I'm going to play this game.

    So I will wait a reasonable amount of time to see if we here from LLight and/or Pop. If we don't hear from poptart I will cast my vote for him by the end of day 2.

    Also. Why have we not gotten a report from the real Cop? It's the 3 day. The only reason I can think that he would not come forward is that the 2 people he checked are townies.
    But should he report that?

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    chiefsonny
     

    Well, until he's found out who the Cult or Silencer is, he is no real use at the time. And since the odds are that he hasn't hit two of those three accurately (since there have been only two night rounds), I see no sense in him speaking up now. But hey, that's a total judgement call and risk that he shall be taking.

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    `Roxas`

    @Knukles: I was willing to give you a second chance, and assume you just made assumptions for one of your three accusations, but now that you've claimed you checked Zanic on Night 3 and got a guilty result, I'm positive you're not the cop.

    There have only been two night rounds in this game so far. There's no way you could have checked three people.

    EDIT: I'm also going to assume LLight was silenced. I also disagree with the idea of voting for poptart. Poptart may be inactive, but Knukles is by far more suspicious and we should lynch him while we have the opportunity. Knukles was caught BLATANTLY lying, and if he's mafia, this could mean eliminating the Silencer.

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    MajorasMask9

    Lol, I might as well just say it after that slip up, no matter how stupid it sounds at the moment i'm done for anyway, it just happened sooner than I had wanted. Theres no excuse for that other than my head playing tricks on me that I had 3 nights. Which still dosn't fix it.

    It's true, I am Mafia. But not long after i'm dead, you'll all be mopped the floor with. So go ahead and vote me out.

    I want out atm anyway, too much going on. Good game though.

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    Knukles2000

    Based on the mishap (EDIT: and his confession), I am changing my vote to Knukles

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    `Roxas`

    MajorasMask9 may be right about Knukles2000 so I will still wait to see who we hear from and how much further Knukles sticks his foot in his mouth. So for now I will change my vote to undecided.

    "So go ahead and vote me out."
    Be careful what you ask for Knukles, you may just get it.

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    chiefsonny
     

    i vote knuckles as well.

    And ima go ahead and say teddy-son is the other mafia because knuckles was defending him. so we get him next round too.

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    CtR Black

    Changing my vote to No Vote (not No Kill) for right now. This has been a very productive day so far, I'm curious to see what else gets said that may prove useful.

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    hezekiah

    Well, LLight has posted a few times in Pointless today, so I think it is safe to assume he's been silenced.

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    `Roxas`

    I could see a case for Teddy being mafia, but I'm not so sure. I could definitely see white lancer recruiting Teddy as a mason, and then dying because he ended up being mafia, but that's just conjecture. There's no way of knowing who white lancer targeted to recruit unless the other mason says something.

    Since we're about to lynch someone that's mafia, if the mason that's alive knows who the other mafioso is, they should definitely not say who that person is this round, but wait until the next round. This mason would theoretically know the identity of the entire mafia, meaning they have no risk of dying unless the mafia chooses to kill them. If they recruit someone (add to the mason count) instead of kill a cultist, then I think it would be safe to say that the town will win.

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    MajorasMask9

    Knuckles said two people were innocent.

    White lancer must have picked one.

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    CtR Black

    How could you be the cop if you got me as guilty you liar. You just want the town to lynch me because of the master argument I had with you earlier. You played a good game regardless and I offer you props.

    And @Roxas. I had suspicions of you earlier as well. Those are pretty much gone. Of course I don't trust you, but that's only natural in this game.

    And can we get a vote count from someone?

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    Zanic

    Vote count:
    (3) Knukles (Roxas, CtR, Majora)
    (2) Zanic (Knukles, Teddy)
    (1) poptart (Zanic)

    Yet to vote: hezekiah, chiefsonny, LLight, poptart, Shadowwalked

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    MajorasMask9

    We are essentially halfway through the round. 36 hours in, 36 hours remain.

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    hezekiah

    I switch my vote to Knukles.

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    Knukles2000

    I voted for knukles as well

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    Zanic

    Vote count:

    (5) Knukles (Roxas, CtR, Majora, Knukles, Zanic)
    (1) Zanic (Teddy)

    Yet to vote: hezekiah, chiefsonny, LLight, poptart, Shadowwalked

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    MajorasMask9

    I guess I'm voting for Knuckles then.

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    Shadowwalked

    That's majority is it not?

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    Zanic

    It's a majority, but one more vote is needed to end the round early. The round ends early with a 60% super majority.

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    Yeano

    Guess I will vote for Kunkles.

    Hate giving poptart another pass.

    Vote for Knukles

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    chiefsonny
     

    Night 3

    In a daring move, Knukles claimed to be the cop. Unfortunately for him, his plan did not work. The town saw through his ploy, and had him lynched. They gave out a cheer of joy to find out that the Silencer had been permanently silenced.

    1. white lancer - Mason
    2. Shadowwalked
    3. #85 - Townie
    4. `Roxas`
    5. Xhin - Cultist
    6. poptart!
    7. Zanic
    8. hezekiah
    9. Knukles2000 - Silencer
    10. CtR Black
    11. MajorasMask9
    12. LLight
    13. chiefsonny
    14. Teddy-Son

    Mafia-Town-Cult Ratio: 1-7-2

    Roles: Godfather, Silencer, Cop, Doctor, Mason, Cult, Townie

    24 hours for the night actions.

    Continued in [p:62718].

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    Yeano

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