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game 31 mafia thread

Posted November 3, 2014 by Apollo Justice

Oh... uh... hi... Heard you all kill people for a living get money all that stuff... Kinda cool I guess... I mean whatever....

Hmmm, why don't you introduce yourselves? I'd LOVE to get to know you all!

Hi! My name is Helius, and I'm the Godninja. I've maxed out my evasiveness stat, so basically I'm so quick and stealth that no one can ever see me do anything LMAO. In fact, even my guiltiness appears fleeting! I never show up on Watcher checks, and I also show up as an innocent vote on the Sensor checks.


Oh... Nice to meet you I guess... kinda cool.. w/e...

Hah, Godninja's cool and all, but let's just say I'm a little more... ferocious. I'm white lancer, and I'm the Interceptor. Every night, I visit a player, and if someone else visits that same player, they die that night brutally by my hand! Unfortunately, if two people (or more) target the same person that night aside from myself, one of them will die based on a coin flip or dice roll, but my identity will be outed to the town the next day. But still, Godninja can't kill ****, and I can kill millions!


Oh, ok. Hi.

Damn, look at these guys, thinkin' they've got all the goods... Well get a load of this: I'm Chaos Incarnate, the Ballot Forger, and every night, I can change a player's vote to another player for the next day round. That's right, Apollo. I can forge a ballot. *flips hair casually*


ok..................

Hi! We're Castrael and Speed Bike Pro, the two Mafioso. IDK, we kinda just chill around and help out the Mafia and stuff.


Oh, hi! Nice to meet you!

Wait... aren't you guys missing someone?

Uh...

Uhhh...

Oh.. ahem... *pulls crumpled note out of pocket*

It appears someone got a little... lost... on the way here...

Ahem, the Newcomer is a member of the Mafia who is currently not able to access this.. safe... haven... of yours. He or she will be able to join once they correctly guess one of you all durin' the night. Hopefully we'll hear soon!

anyways uh bye have fun

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Nothing to really go on, so I think I'll make Lightvayne vote for Hindenburg.

Seems well enough since Hindenburg has a tendency of rallying votes to himself anyway.

November 3, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

That vote seems fine to me. As for myself, there's actually only one Town-sided role that has any incentive to visit someone this night round (the Watcher), and I also have a chance at hitting the Newcomer, so I'm not sure it's even worth it for me to use my ability this time.

November 3, 2014
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white lancer

No Night actions for Night 0, sorry :$

November 3, 2014
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Apollo Justice

(it says in the Night 0 thread)

November 3, 2014
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Apollo Justice

FUCK

November 3, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Oh, I don't get to kill Speed? Damn...

(hehe)

Oh, well. I have a spot saved for Dooku.

November 3, 2014
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Castrael

Play nice or the God Ninja will sacrifice you to himself.... cause I'm like that.

It's too bad that we don't have any night actions, but it's a bummer that I'll eventually be targeted by Bandit or Dooku.

November 3, 2014
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Helius

I wouldn't worry too much about Count Dooku...

... Considering he's not playing. {:P}

November 3, 2014
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Apollo Justice

Alright, we're gonna lay out some ground rules. You sad sacks of DOG SHIT are gonna be taking orders from me and no one else. Helius is nothing but a pawn on the chessboard of which I am king. I'm the true Godninja, I'm just cleverly disguised as a shitty piece of shit Mafioso because actually getting that useless Townie counterpart would surely result in me removing my own testicles with a fine-tooth comb.

Anyways, first rule is that Castrael has to role claim and die. Second rule is there are no rules because I'm such a cool and personable king but don't you forget that you're all still serfs.

All of that being said, I would like to intercept hezekiah and forge my own ballot to chiefsonny and guess that Jo Nathan is mafia.

November 3, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

I wouldn't worry too much about Count Dooku...

... Considering he's not playing.


{fp}

Anyways, first rule is that Castrael has to role claim and die.


<.< I hate you.

(duck)

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Castrael

Alright, we're gonna lay out some ground rules. You sad sacks of DOG SHIT are gonna be taking orders from me and no one else

Yaaaa. Don't count on it. I'll probably just do what seems like a good idea. But I'm open for listening as well.

November 3, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

No, you're open for taking orders, sergeant. Now don't speak out of line again or else your family gets it.

November 3, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

So I'm assuming that the Oracle can still see what roles players are before they die.

Hezekiah kind of seems like the kind of person who wouldn't vote for someone, or cast a vote for that matter unless they had a reason to. So perhaps Lightvayne is the newcomer, and he's voting for them. So, Speed may actually be onto something in this regard. Unless something changes, I would also suggest intercepting Hezekiah if anyone.

However, I see no reason for Castrael to role claim unless a situation has presented itself where it may be helpful. Which it hasn't yet.

Changing Speed's vote to Chiefsonny could be helpful if Speed doesn't vote for anything at all though. Could. I assume that the sensor will detect it as one guilty vote anyway, and thus the sensor will be looking at an innocent role since Speed didn't vote. As such, this may be something I'll do next night. Though so far I see no reason to change it to Chiefsonny specifically.

November 4, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

sheesh... you must be the life of the party, huh...

November 4, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

I adapt based on what situations seem to call for. I'm just trying to ensure that we win. {:P}

November 4, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

I say we vote to kill Speed and move on with our lives...

(hehe)

November 4, 2014
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Castrael

FUCK YOU IS WHAT I SAY

November 4, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Bitch.

(death)

November 4, 2014
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Castrael

Seriously, can someone finally step in and do something about Castrael? I'm tired of her potty mouth and feel that all she does is troll. All I'm asking for is a suspension at the very least.

November 4, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Whoa hey, I have done nothing, buddy. You're the one who is trolling me!

It's... it's.... TOO MUCH. (cry)

November 4, 2014
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Castrael

Oh dear...

November 5, 2014
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white lancer

Say my name.

November 5, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

You may now select a kill target (meant to say, but Godninja also breaks ties as the Godfather/Ninja traditionally does).

Interceptor may choose someone to visit.

Ballot Forger may forge a ballot.

November 5, 2014
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Apollo Justice

Alright, gang! Let's huddle up, put our thumbs up each other's butts and get some quality discussion goin'!

November 5, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Well. I think it would be a good idea to kill Pirate_Ninja as I think they could be trouble later on considering what I observed from the last game.

And as to the interception, I still think that Hezekiah or Jo Nathan should be the one to go, as we should take out the Oracle ASAP by the sound of it.

Well, if I don't get back within 24 hours or whatever or I don't change my mind, make my vote go to Pirate_ninja.

As for ballot forging eh... make Speed vote for Ghowilo I guess. It's highly unlikely that the town will randomly turn on Chiefsonny.

November 5, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

I want The Bandit to die. So I command it, so it shall be.

November 5, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Say my name.


No.

put our thumbs up each other's butts


Ewww, grow up.

(hehe)

The Bandit must die. I agree.

November 5, 2014
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Castrael

I like killing P_N here, just a little bit more than the Bandit. That's partially because P_N got to play a lot more last game, but I also think he's the less predictable player. Both are strong, but we will have a better sense of where Bandit stands because he's more outspoken. I mean, P_N does have a history of getting assigned Traitor-type roles, but...also, I don't think there is much that will help us figure out any of the roles yet, so this is still just a shot in the dark.

We should wait for Helius to put in the first vote for our target each night, as he is Watcher-immune. It's also worth considering not changing any ballots for the first couple of rounds as it's unlikely to actually help us yet and we want to minimize the Watcher's power. My ability counters the Watcher pretty well, so I'm going to go with someone who the Watcher might target..largely that's going to be a matter of chance. I guess I'll visit MajorasMask9. I'm open to changing that with suggestions, but I want to make sure I get my action in.

November 5, 2014
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white lancer

I'll vote for PN

November 5, 2014
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Helius

PN then

November 5, 2014
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Castrael

Vote kill PN make die death

As for intercepting, I could see either Majora or Jo being the places to be for a good time tonight. If you choose anyone besides those two then I'm disowning you from our merry band of bitches.

It's also worth considering not changing any ballots for the first couple of rounds as it's unlikely to actually help us yet and we want to minimize the Watcher's power.


This is a good point, especially since everyone who plays this game is lame and tends to lean towards No Kill until substantial evidence comes forward, and that might not happen for another round or two. I'm totally down for the hilarity and antics of forging my vote though.

November 5, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

The problem with that though is... if our ballot forger is discovered, then there goes that chance of ballot forging and killing someone off. I guess its a give and take sort of thing.

Host Question

If Speed was followed during the night, how would the tracker see it? And what would the watcher's information be for such a thing?

November 5, 2014
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Helius

If Speed were followed and the Ballot Forger visited him the same night, then the Watcher would see that the BF went to Speed's home (white lancer in this case)

November 5, 2014
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Apollo Justice

Can the Ballot Forger change their own vote?

November 5, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

I just wanna stay home, cuddle up under a blankie and read. So that no one can track me, follow me, etc.

I think that's a very good plan. Mmhmm.

November 5, 2014
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Castrael

You're cut from the team. I only want the most committed murderers on this squad.

November 5, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

You're so MEAN to meeeee.

;_;

November 5, 2014
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Castrael

Yes, the Ballot Forger can forge their own ballot.

November 6, 2014
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Apollo Justice

Wtf, that role is OP. I have just given you the keys to the kingdom, Chao Infernape.

November 6, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

So we have....

Mafia Kill: PN
Interceptor target: MM9
Ballot Forger: Speed votes for Ghowilo

November 6, 2014
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Apollo Justice

I have no complaints.

November 6, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

My vote goes to Majora or wait, are we all voting or just Chaos?

November 6, 2014
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Castrael

huh

November 6, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

IDK what you're asking but only Chaos can choose the Ballot he forges officially, and he chose Speed to vote for Ghowilo.

November 6, 2014
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Apollo Justice

Beh... I suppose MM was an obvious choice... FUCK YOU MARTYR

November 6, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

don't talk about the dead like that they don't appreciate it

November 6, 2014
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Apollo Justice

the bandit more like the concubine

November 6, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

he was not a hooker he was a martyr his role was clearly stated from the beginning of the game

November 6, 2014
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Apollo Justice

more like the k-martyr because he only offers the lowest quality selection of consumer goods but i secretly shop there instead of target please don't tell anyone

November 6, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

i find that to be distasteful but true in regards to the bandit

November 6, 2014
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Apollo Justice

and he chose Speed to vote for Ghowilo.


This is the answer I wanted. Thanks :)

November 6, 2014
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Castrael

I am okay with the results of that night round. :)

Also, MM9's head doesn't yet seem to be in the game as much as it normally is. There's no reason to target our own nightkill as long as the Godninja is alive, and the only way it would work at all would be if I was the first to vote for the target in the night round (otherwise, I believe my ability would kill whichever one of us voted first). It's also possible that MM9 is aware of this and trying to entrap one of us, so I'm not saying anything about it in the main thread.

November 6, 2014
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white lancer

Uh huh, uh huh, sounds great, tiger, yeah, that's really... really good... *pushes glasses up and continues reading the morning paper

November 6, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

It's also possible that MM9 is aware of this and trying to entrap one of us, so I'm not saying anything about it in the main thread.


I agree. I want to vote for Majora, but I don't want to accidentally put us in a trap. Soooooo..

@Speed: Why are you still here? {:P}

November 6, 2014
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Castrael

Because I run this shitshow and don't you forget it, toots.

November 6, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Drats.

November 7, 2014
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Castrael

Bandit is a godsend for me. He can call me Mafia quicker than anyone on here. I think it has to do with all those years of Jedi Sith together... or maybe he's psychic. Idk. But he is a formidable enemy regardless when I'm Mafia.

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Note to Bandit:

I really do like you, but I've got to have priorities in this game. I'm sure you understand.

/note

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We should probably avoid bringing up how the sensor thing works. There is a tried and true method on how to catch mafia. It involves voting in groups, and honestly, we are going to have to figure out how to get around that.

Also if you bring up the fact that the current players are adding to the chaos, it could cast some suspicions on those that are active; however, if you're a weak player, I would not suggest doing so.

I brought up voting for inactive players as that's also a tried and true method. Someone is hiding. Except, it's not us.

November 7, 2014
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Helius

I'm actually not too worried about the Sensor this game...if we get out of this day round with a mislynch, we have a decent shot at just winning. Ironically, Chaos' forging of Speed's vote might actually help with that as the votes being tied at the end of the round are reasonably likely, and we'd still get a lynch out of it.

I think the most likely way we win this game is that we all survive it, meaning we generally take advantage of the chaos of the next round (and the Town not likely to be unified) and vote strategically to keep any of our own from getting the axe. Our #1 priority should be trying to figure out who the Newcomer is, because if they get lynch or we accidentally kill them (or even change their ballot), it throws all the math off. Hopefully it isn't hezekiah.

I think that I should cast the first vote for our target tonight, to make sure that the kill goes through (i.e. prevent a Doctor save). Me using my ability anywhere else increases the chances of hitting the Newcomer and this one nightkill could win us the game if we choose right.

November 7, 2014
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white lancer

I want The Bandit to die. So I command it, so it shall be.


Lol @ this in hindsight since The Bandit ended up getting killed inadvertently anyways. You may now kneel to your king, boys.

November 7, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

I actually think we should kill Majora.

November 7, 2014
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Castrael

Knees on the ground. Now.

November 7, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

No.

But, I'm considering a host kill from Apollo though. I'm really just not in a good place to play atm...

November 8, 2014
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Castrael

Uhh, eesh... Can you hang in there for a couple more rounds, we can end this pretty quickly as long as we keep our full 6...

November 8, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

or not

November 8, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

That's kind of ridiculous. That sort of behavior should receive negative points. :/ If you're going to play, play. If you're going to quit, don't play. If you're going inactive, at least have the decency to show up every once in a while.

But that just ... meh.

November 8, 2014
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Helius

She was fairly ambiguous with her reasoning but she said she was sure she wanted it so... Bleh.

It'll be dealt with accordingly at the end of the game.

November 8, 2014
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Apollo Justice

Yeah...I hope things are okay with Cas IRL, but this is actually really frustrating as it takes us from a winning position (where we have a decent chance of taking the game even next round) to a really tricky one. The Sensor is suddenly a real issue and is going to get some good information today.

We'll need to decide what we want to do about hezekiah. His claim was ambiguous enough that he could easily be lying--I think the odds of him being a Townie or even the Defense Attorney/Newcomer are reasonably high--so we might not want to take him out tonight. There's also the chance that he's the Oracle and therefore would want us to kill him. I'm considering the possibility of using my power on him tonight because the chance of either the Watcher or the Doctor visiting him seems pretty high...the risk lies if both of them do so, but even in that scenario I'd get to take out one of them. Or I could just be overthinking this and we should kill him tonight. Any thoughts?

November 8, 2014
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white lancer

Given that we now won't have the numbers to overcome a Sensor result next round, probably our best outcome this day round is a No Kill. We still have a decent shot at that because Speed's vote has been switched to Ghow, meaning that Ghow actually has four votes. An even better scenario would be if we could somehow get Ghowilo lynched without having any of our votes (aside from Speed's) on him, but that particular situation seems unlikely.

November 9, 2014
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white lancer

One more Town-sided vote for Hindy wouldn't be dreadful for us either, because one Mafia out of five voters isn't especially terrible for us as far as Sensor results go (assuming the Newcomer isn't among the other four voters). I think we'd still rather Hindy be alive, as I could imagine him voting similarly to Speed this game which would help us, but this isn't bad. When I first saw that Cas died I felt like I would be locked into voting for Ghow based on what I had already said this round, which would lead to some very frightening Sensor results for me as Speed's vote would make two Mafia in a small pool.

November 9, 2014
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white lancer

Lady Flare and MM9 both seem like good kill options for tonight...I was wondering if either of them might be the Newcomer, but I don't think that's the case now. We shouldn't kill either of them if Hindenburg gets lynched, though, because that would just narrow down the Sensor's results and make me easier to catch. I think Ghowilo is probably just a normal Townie.

November 9, 2014
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white lancer

I wasn't kidding when I said Ghowilo reminds me of Black Yoshi. That kid is fucking batshit insane and I'm getting a townie vibe from him just because he's literally losing his mind over a small dispute and fighting tooth and nail just from a small handful of votes for him.

November 9, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

That being said, the round ended 6 minutes ago with a tie in votes thanks to my forged poopie.

November 9, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Just my opinion, but I think Hez could well be the oracle while Majora would be the newcomer. So I don't know really. That thing between each other was just kind of weird. And Hez's reasoning didn't actually sound very well... sound. It was kind of as if he was trying to imply Majora's guilt without having to give away his role too soon.

I seem to misunderstood what exactly the Oracle does last time I looked at the roles... I thought that the role of everyone they ever selected would become public when they die. AND they have to be killed during the night for it to happen. As such, I think we should just leave the Hez issue up to the town. There is a fair chance that the town will lynch him on their own regardless, but he may or may not be the newcomer.

ANYWAY: here's my take. Don't kill Majora or Hez.

I'm OK with killing Lady Flare, but I get the feeling we should go for the more inactive targets. Like Xhin or Black Yoshi.

November 9, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

Alright, you all can do all your night stuff.

November 9, 2014
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Apollo Justice

I would rather keep the inactive players alive--they're more likely to work to our advantage (either by not being in our way when we make a move or by serving as lynch targets). I could see a chance of MM9 being the Newcomer, though I'm leaning against that at this point (it's worth noting that hezy wouldn't have any way to know if MM9 was Mafia/Newcomer unless he was the Watcher and saw Majora visit someone). It's probably fine to leave him alive for now since I think Flare is about as good of a target. She's the one that would surprise me most if she wound up being either the Newcomer or the Defense Attorney. I definitely agree with leaving hezy alive, though--we may even be able to get him lynched if the Mafia don't kill him despite him claiming a power role. The real question to me is whether I should use the Interceptor powers on him.

I kinda liked the effect of having the Ballot Forger target one of our own with the Sensor around. Makes us lose some flexibility, but it does dilute the Sensor's powers quite a bit...I'm trying to decide if that's better than our other Forger uses since we're not going to be able to go for the win this round. The other alternative is to take someone active (e.g. hezy or MM9) and send them after someone suspicious (e.g. Ghow or hezy), or to wait on the BF ability to avoid getting tagged by the Watcher.

November 9, 2014
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white lancer

Welp, I guess I'm voting to kill Lady Flare. I forgot that the watcher would effect me as well. So... I guess I should forge one of our own if anything. Probably safer. I'll forge my own vote to Hindenburg.

Considering someone will notice that we forged a vote towards Ghow, I don't think it's a good idea to do it again.

Next round we may have to put some votes in, as if the sensor finds no guilty votes and there were a lot of votes, it would narrow things down quite a bit.

November 9, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

Lady Flare is a good target.

Lady Flare must die!

As far as hezekiah, I would say go ahead and use the Interceptor powers on him for the following.

1) If he is a power-role, someone will most definitely check him out. We get a kill (possibly him).

2) If he isn't a power-role, and someone checks him out, we still get a kill.

November 9, 2014
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Helius

Reminder that Helius should be the first to cast the official murder vote given his half-Ninja genetics.

November 9, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Speed's right--Chaos, you should rescind your vote so that Helius is the one to visit Flare tonight.

And yeah, I'll go ahead and use my powers to Intercept hezekiah. There's always the risk that two of the Watcher/Doctor/Oracle target him, but we'd still get a kill out of the deal so I think it's worth the risk. I think there might even be a chance the Doctor is too scared to use their powers because of MM9 suggesting that we should be using my ability against our Nightkill every time. May be a little greedy, but I want to go for it. :)

November 9, 2014
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white lancer

I will grant you peasants the freedom to use your powers however you wish tonight, for you have your master's approval.

November 9, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Mafia kill: Lady Flare
Interceptor: hezekiah
Ballot Forger: Chaos votes for Hindenburg

November 10, 2014
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Apollo Justice

hi lol

November 10, 2014
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MajorasMask9

welcome your newest buddy

November 10, 2014
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Apollo Justice

Well, now. Glad we didn't kill you. :) Which of us did you target?

November 10, 2014
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white lancer

Speed Bike Pro lol.

Also I had this list written out earlier (it isn't complete) but this is how I saw people from an "outside-of-the-mafia" perspective for as short a time as that was:

Guilty?:
Speed
Jo

???:
Xhin (innocent?)
Black Yoshi (mafia?)
chiefsonny (mafia?)

Innocent:
Helius
white lancer
Lady Flare
Ghowilo (I knew this though since I guessed him Night 1)
hezekiah (Watcher?)

I REALLY think hezekiah is the watcher though, especially with his power role claim. I think he might have seen me visit Ghowilo, hence why he wanted to kill me so much.

November 10, 2014
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MajorasMask9

Reminder that Helius should be the first to cast the official murder vote given his half-Ninja genetics.

Reminder that Helius should be the first to cast the official murder vote given his half-Ninja genetics.

Ugh, sorry. I couldn't get out of bed to check the mafia thread. I'll try to remember that next time. Not sure how these simple details slip my mind.

Anyway. Do you guys think it may be a good idea to start a dogpile on Ghowilo given how he's acting all crazy and how he just claimed sensor out of nowhere on the basis that he is mafia trying to cover for himself?

November 10, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

I welcome you into my bosom, my son. Come, let us murder the innocent and bathe in their blood together. also i feel like a slut because i was the one you guessed and got correct

November 10, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Also, I think it'd be pretty easy to gear a lynch towards Ghowilo but I'm giving you the warning in advance that I won't be partaking. I've committed to the notion that he reminds me of Black Yoshi and I simply dismiss his borderline frightening ramblings as being batfuck insane rather than a guilty party. Glad MM was the Outsider since I think I'm fairly in the clear of suspicion. and also get owned by ballot forged shenanigans and therefore not getting any sensor results omfg @ ghowilo

November 10, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Innocent:
Helius
white lancer


This just in! We're not innocent.

But welcome anyhow!

I personally think we should keep Ghowilo around for another round to throw some suspicion on him first.

November 10, 2014
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Helius

I don't think we'll get Ghow lynched...most people are going to be (rightfully) too worried about hitting a power role. We'll probably just have to kill him tonight before his abilities get out of hand. There's also a chance we could ignore him if the Town mislynches this day round--we will fairly likely be able to steal the game the next round by forcing the votes now that the two biggest variables (the Newcomer and the Doctor) are taken care of--all we'll have to worry about is the Defense Attorney, and if they're playing correctly they should want to side with us (we also want to avoid hitting them in the night if at all possible). I think we can probably play a little more aggressively this round to keep all of us alive given that we have a decent shot at winning the game next round.

Jo Nathan has been rather quiet this game...he was near the top of my Newcomer suspect list because of that. Now I'm wondering if that's because he's a power role (likely not the Oracle, as they would want to draw attention to themselves) or the Defense Attorney.

November 10, 2014
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white lancer

ayy

November 11, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Wasn't expecting votes to pile on hindy so fast.

I'm a little concerned about the sensor results now but I'm not sure if additional votes will be seen as people trying to mess with that at all.

November 11, 2014
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MajorasMask9

ok you can do stuff now

November 11, 2014
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Apollo Justice

Kill Ghowilo

November 11, 2014
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Helius

That Sensor report is gonna sting. 4 out of the 7 people who didn't vote for Hindy are confirmed mafia.

November 11, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Yep, Ghow seems like the best choice to me--as long as we don't hit the Defense Attorney, we have a good shot at forcing the votes and winning this next round (all it will take is for one Townie to misvote or not stand together with the rest, or for the DA not to vote against us), and I'd be stunned if Ghow wasn't Town-sided (specifically the Sensor).

I like changing chief's vote since he's suspicious of a few of us, maybe to Xhin or EvilGuy. I guess there's a chance that he's the DA and had Hindy as his target (what a rough gig that would be!), but I don't think hitting the DA with the Ballot Forger is likely to matter.

I'm not sure if it matters if I visit someone this night round, although I guess it couldn't really hurt. It would be pretty annoying if I got caught by the Oracle and confirmed as Mafia, I guess, but with the Ballot Forger that extra kill would mean that we have the votes to force through the lynch anyway (the ratio will be 7-5-1 after tonight, and stealing a Townie vote gives both of us 6 votes while they'll only have 5 if I get someone else tonight). Any suggestions? It should probably be someone who is pretty active...

November 11, 2014
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white lancer

Nah, the Sensor report should be fine. Remember that Chaos changed his own vote to be for Hindenburg (so there will be two in there--Chaos and MM9), and that Helius doesn't show up Guilty on Sensor reports.

November 11, 2014
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white lancer

o yeh

November 11, 2014
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Last round's Sensor report would have been brutal, however. With MM9 as the Newcomer, two out of four (with one of those four being the Sensor) would have been Guilty--Chaos' switch of Speed's vote inadvertantly wound up saving half our team there.

November 11, 2014
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white lancer

Any suggestions?


If I were town-sided, I would be pretty suspicious of EvilGuy. All he's done all game is provide shitty reasoning for bad votes, hopped mindlessly on bandwagons like a sheep, and posted epic "i'm evil because my name is evil lel" memes. Idk about you guys but I want to lynch him.

November 11, 2014
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Chaos' switch of Speed's vote inadvertantly wound up saving half our team there.


All calculated, baby. Baited and outsmarted. {8D}

November 11, 2014
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I'm thinking that I should try to use my ability on the most suspicious player in the game, for the chance of hitting the Oracle. I could also hit hezekiah again to try to catch the Watcher (although if MM9's theory is correct he's clearly not going to visit himself). With the Doctor out of the way and the Newcomer in the fold, two kills would be a lock no matter what and we're guaranteed one of them. So...Xhin, myself, Chaos, EvilGuy?

Question for Apollo: the Ballot Forger only visits one of their targets, correct? The person whose vote they're changing? I just want to make sure I wouldn't be killing Chaos if he switched someone's vote to Xhin and I picked Xhin. ;)

November 11, 2014
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white lancer

EvilGuy seems like a decent option. Like I said, it probably doesn't matter much but we might as well go for it. I'll put in a preliminary decision to visit EvilGuy, though that's open to change.

I guess we'd likely also not want to hit the DA's target with the person we switch our ballot to, but meh. I don't see any indication of who that person might be.

November 11, 2014
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white lancer

I doubt EvilGuy is gonna get checked out tonight, I was just saying that I'm gonna try to lynch him.

November 11, 2014
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Actually, with the discussion that we're getting, I think I'll change my target to Chaos Incarnate. And really hope he doesn't miss this most crucial of night rounds.

November 11, 2014
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white lancer

Wish hezy would let us know who his target was so we could switch the ballot accordingly. I don't think we should accept his offer outright--it leaves us in too bad of a position if he betrays us for some reason--but I think it's likely an on-the-level offer as he really has no reason not to jump ship at this point and it guarantees him his own win. We just wait for Chaos, switch the vote, and probably win from there.

November 11, 2014
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white lancer

Or we could just assume that hezy's offer is on the level (as it's pretty clearly his best play) and go with it to make the game end faster. Either way--I just tend to play conservatively. :)

November 11, 2014
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white lancer

@white lancer - Yes, the ballot forger is only shown visiting the person whose vote they are changing.

November 11, 2014
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Apollo Justice

I assume we're voting to kill Ghowilo?

November 11, 2014
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MajorasMask9

Thank you, Apollo.

That's the plan, although only Helius has voted so far. Also, Chaos is making me a little nervous now...

November 12, 2014
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white lancer

vote kill ghowilo

If Chaos doesn't show up, can we decide who to use his power on for him?

November 12, 2014
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Kill ghowilo I guess.

So I should be switching a townie's vote to Evilguy right? Sorry, I'm pretty out of it tonight and can't seem to take this in.

November 12, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

Eh... not much time and I'm not really sure what I should do, I'd rather go to sleep if I can.

So I guess just switch Chiefsonny's vote to evil guy. I hope I made the right choice.

November 12, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

Switching the vote to EvilGuy is fine. Assuming hezy plays this out like he should, that should do it for us this game. We just need to make sure we keep the votes tied or in our favor this next day round. :)

November 12, 2014
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white lancer

Oh, yeah, and kill Ghowilo.

November 12, 2014
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white lancer

peepee party

November 12, 2014
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I'm not really a fan of cheese tactics like this but whatever gets the win I guess. hezekiah has truly sold his soul to the devil.

November 12, 2014
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Vote to kill Ghowilo

November 12, 2014
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MajorasMask9

Just going for it with hezekiah: opinions? Or should we stick to just trying to wait it out? I'm pretty tempted to just take him up on his offer and kill him if he reneges, just to get this game done with (and because if I had to guess, I'd say he'd go with us because it's also a sure victory for him and he's a savvy enough player to realize that).

November 13, 2014
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white lancer

Same.

November 13, 2014
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P.S. if Cas never killed herself like a coward then we would have the straight-up vote advantage with a forged ballot.

November 13, 2014
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ya, I think we can trust Hez. If we all dogpile on Evil guy plus with the Ballot forger, the worst the town could do is tie it.

Hez would be the problem otherwise, but I THINK we can trust him.

If he turns on us however, it'd pretty much be game over. I saw we go for it. A game of chance can be fun anyway.

November 13, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

Well, I'll await the others to decide. Apparently, I'm suspicious.

November 13, 2014
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Helius

And I'm innocent! Owned!

November 13, 2014
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I would feel a lot more comfortable with this entire situation if Castrael never killed herself for no fucking reason. Seriously, even if you're not feeling it, I don't know how hard it can be to just sit there in the corner and exist. That is literally all we would require of her right now.

November 13, 2014
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Indeed, it wasn't great for us. We should still have it this round as long as all of us can get votes in on EvilGuy. I'm waiting until near the end of the round to make it less obvious.

November 13, 2014
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white lancer

Although I'm tempted to reply something along the lines of:

@hezekiah: Deal. white lancer voted for EvilGuy.

November 13, 2014
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white lancer

Since we all seem to be on the same page as far as dealing with hezekiah, I think it'd be best to establish a link sooner rather than later. Of course, that would require one of us emerging from the shadows and acting as a mouthpiece. I don't want to do it since IDK how but I'm apparently off of everyone's radar. Besides, hezekiah doesn't know which side of the votes is town and which side is mafia. There's nothing keeping everyone from saying "i'm mafia, vote with me" to confuse him so that he can't fuck the town unless I'm missing something here. I'd rather someone let him know what the deal is ASAP if we're going to commit to this.

November 13, 2014
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I am perfectly willing to do that and honestly I think a NK/mislynch this day round is probably the only way we win the game at this point (most of us have too much suspicion on us now). It's pretty close to a sure thing IMO because I can't really think of a good reason for the Defense Attorney not to go along with it since it's a sure win for them and a sure loss of a survival point if he doesn't (not to mention they auto-lose the game if they don't go along with it and their target is one of us).

November 13, 2014
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white lancer

Godspeed, soldier.

November 13, 2014
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November 13, 2014
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white lancer

I suppose there's a slight chance hezy was lying about being the DA all along...but that seems unlikely, and even if he was there's no good reason for the real DA to vote against us.

November 13, 2014
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white lancer

I'm afraid of hezekiah being not the DA and concocting this brilliant scheme to lure out all of the mafia to a slaughter.

November 13, 2014
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That's a possibility...in which case, we still have a decent shot at convincing the real DA not to vote against us. We still tie the vote as long as the DA doesn't vote against us (7 Townies - chiefsonny vs. 5 Mafia + chiefsonny's vote). There's zero real reason for the DA to vote against us (they risk losing survival points or even the game if their target is one of us), so if they're playing correctly, we should win here. If not, well, I think we probably would have lost from this position without going for the win this day round anyway.

November 13, 2014
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white lancer

So, yeah. I'm pretty nervous about how this will go, but logically I think it should go in our favor...

November 14, 2014
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white lancer

The only thing I'm nervous about is EvilGuy being hezekiah's client lol

November 14, 2014
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MajorasMask9

Hez is on our side it seems. Helius, pls get in there. Also Speed remember to change your vote back. It's pretty much in the bag now.

November 14, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

Yep. Vote is tied right now with the Ballot Forger switch but Xhin and Black Yoshi haven't yet voted for me.

November 14, 2014
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white lancer

I REALLY hope Speed isn't bailing on us. Now that Helius voted, there's pretty much no reason to not switch his vote back. If he doesn't he pretty much doomed us all and himself.

All it would take is Xhin changing his vote and Speed not changing his for this to be a flop if I'm figuring correctly.

November 14, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

I'm not too worried about that...but I agree that we will want the vote switched before the round ends to prevent any other vote-switching shenanigans. :)

November 14, 2014
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white lancer

And now everyone has voted. One switched vote and we should win the game.

November 14, 2014
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white lancer

Now I'm free... There are no strings on me...

November 15, 2014
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