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game 37 main thread night 4

Posted July 7, 2015 by Castrael

Game 37 - Day 4

[insert something cheesy here] I can't be bothered with it. v.v

The Players
1. Speed Bike Pro - Hide/1st
2. Black Yoshi
3. Ghowilo
4. Kaot0 - townie/dead/technical difficulties
5. Redack
6. Feral Wolf - townie/dead
7. White lancer
8. GH0ST IN THE MACH1NE
9. Hezekiah
10. Lady Flare - 2 hide
11. Chiefsonny
12. Evilguy0613
13. Count Dooku
14. Chaos Incarnate

The Roles
Mafia
1. Mafia Investigator: Selects one person each night and learns that player's role.
2. Godfather: Shows up as Innocent to Cops/other alignment detectors. Holds tie-breaking power in the case of a Mafia voting tie.
3. Distracted Janitor – 3 Hides: Selects one person during the night. If that person is Night killed, their role will be revealed to the Mafia and hidden from the rest of the town. The player cannot use their power on the same person two nights in a row.

Town
1. Lawyer: Can select one person to defend each night, preventing their target from being lynched during the next day round.
2. Gunsmith: Can give a gun to a player of their choosing every night. The gun may be then used to kill someone during the following day round. The gun typically expires at the end of the day round. The Gunsmith is always Selfless.
3. Virgin: If lynched during the day, all night kills the following night are blocked.
4. Cop: Chooses one person to investigate each night. Receives a Guilty or Innocent verdict on that person.
5. Townies x 6

Ratio
3, 6

You have 72 hours.

There are 40 Replies


It's obvious what must be done.

July 7, 2015
Ghowilo

At first I was going to suggestion the possibility of Lady Flare as being a mafia, and trying to use the non-suspicious list as a means of getting others killed, but that seems like a kind of dumb strategy and I don't see why they would choose to hide if they were trying to do that. It was also be pretty stupid to kill someone the day after they listed you as suspicious so I don't know about Dooku.

July 7, 2015
Chaos Incarnate

I'm curious on your reasoning for picking Dooku, Ghowilo.

July 7, 2015
Moonray

BANG! Another shot has been fired! white lancer falls forward and lands flat on his face, blood gushing out of the back of his head and onto the street's pavement. His wallet falls out of trench coat's pocket and a villager picks up an ID unlike theirs. white lancer was the Distracted Janitor!

The Players
1. Speed Bike Pro - Hide/1st
2. Black Yoshi
3. Ghowilo
4. Kaot0 - townie/dead/technical difficulties
5. Redack
6. Feral Wolf - townie/dead
7. White lancer - dead/distracted janitor
8. GH0ST IN THE MACH1NE
9. Hezekiah
10. Lady Flare - 2 hide
11. Chiefsonny
12. Evilguy0613
13. Count Dooku
14. Chaos Incarnate

Ratio
2, 6

July 7, 2015
Castrael

Also did anyone else get the impression Lady Flare was attempting to get herself lynched in Day 3? Not only did she vote for herself but she also randomly decided chief was suspicious (perhaps in an attempt to get him to vote for her).

I'm wondering if she might've been the virgin.

July 7, 2015
Moonray

Oh, wow. Good shot whoever that was.

July 7, 2015
Moonray

Also shouldn't the ratio be 2:7?

July 7, 2015
Moonray

Ghowilo, you should know better than most of my vacation-induced inactivity. I haven't updated adventure in like 5 days...

Since gunsmith is still in play, that means we've probably taken hits on our other power roles. Some combo of Virgin / Cop / Lawyer.

The surviving member of that trio should probably role reveal today. Cop results would be useful, and the other two are sorta useless (virgin)/potentially harmful (lawyer).

July 7, 2015
Count Dooku

Granted I'm assuming the mafia didn't waste their limited Janitor hides on townies, since they have an investigator.

July 7, 2015
Count Dooku

Also shouldn't the ratio be 2:7?


Yea, miscounted. Sorry about that. Haha... :P

July 7, 2015
Castrael

Damn, whoever had the gun this round, that was a good shot.

July 8, 2015
Black Yoshi

I feel like this guy is just causing trouble all the time and I'm not sure I feel confident enough in my other suspects to vote for them yet.

July 8, 2015
Moonray

Lady Flare posts a list of people she finds suspicious.


Lady Flare dies


I vote for someone on that list


>>>> Moonray votes for me.


I think we should go on the fact that "when Moonray lives past night 1 it's suspicious" and kill him off. Damned trouble maker.

July 8, 2015
Ghowilo

Honestly, with today being the last day and the inactivity of this game, I feel like Redack is trying to force a tie here and cause another no kill so the mafia can get another free kill. And if people jump on his bandwagon and they lynch me while he's at it, they get two free kills.

July 8, 2015
Ghowilo

Or I'm looking at your activity over the last several days and finding you fairly suspicious, at best you're a liability to the town with how you randomly pick a target (such as chief).

You're also drawing a fairly big conclusion that the mafia would kill Flare after she called them suspicious. It's a really risky move that almost never pays off because of how obvious it is, if Dooku were mafia I highly doubt he'd do it.

And yes in some ways I am forcing a tie to prevent you lynching someone I believe to be town aligned. I'd rather a no kill & one town death at night than a town lynch + a town death at night. At least then we'd only lose one person. But it's also not my doing that people are inactive, they're free to vote as they see fit.

As for the "Redack must be mafia because he's still alive" logic. That's pretty much the reason I don't play frequently any more and I've found mafia teams are more sympathetic towards me as a result. So they tend not to kill me until I become a threat.

All I can say is I believe Dooku is town aligned so I don't want you lynching him and I find you a more likely suspect than anyone else right now. But I'm only human, I could be wrong. Either way my vote is locked so can't change my mind now :)

July 8, 2015
Moonray

I wonder what our AI has to say about all of this.

July 8, 2015
Ghowilo

Or maybe you're mafia trying to protect one of your mafia buddies. And maybe they used said tactic because they knew people would be hesitant of it.

July 8, 2015
Ghowilo

Tbh I wonder what anyone has to say, but alas they are not talking.

July 8, 2015
Moonray

I will be voting for Ghowilo as a matter of self-preservation if it becomes necessary. But I'd really like to see more from... well everyone playing. But particularly the power roles I spoke of earlier.

Also, Castrael, can we get a confirmation that this is a 72 hour round, and not a 48 hour round?

July 8, 2015
Count Dooku

if it becomes necessary


I'm sorry for voting for you in the first place, if you were mafia I feel like you would have went ahead and jumped to vote me off instead of waiting to preserve yourself.

So uh... folks. Vote for someone other than me or Dooku if you get on.

July 8, 2015
Ghowilo

Guys... what are the chances that Lady Flare was mafia, and she posted that list to throw us off a bit? Then the mafia killed her and hid her body to further throw us off their trail?

Why did she vote for herself.

This game makes no damned sense to me.

July 8, 2015
Ghowilo

As I said, I suspect was the virgin and was attempting to get herself lynched.

Would definitely be a bizarre twist and a ballsy move if the mafia killed and hid one of their own to create a wild goose chase that very few people are likely to follow...

July 8, 2015
Moonray

I will participate in the main thread before I go to bed tonight. It's been busy here. I do think the idea of the mafia killing one of their own is rather unlikely.

I did also notice that Moonray mentioned some other suspects, but didn't feel like naming any names. His attitude this round has seemed a bit less than kosher.

July 9, 2015
hezekiah

Oh, and Cas did you ever figure out what file you're missing? I'm posting this here because I'm sure you'll see it here and probably not in your original post.

July 9, 2015
Ghowilo

Yeah, this is my vote. He's been talking a lot but saying very little.

July 9, 2015
hezekiah

I highly doubt if Flare was Mafia she would vote for herself, and especially that she would be so adamant about it. It seems more likely to me that she was the Virgin, and the Mafia picked up on that hint and offed her before she could off herself.

That said, I'm almost certain now that Ghow is Town-sided; I've seen the Mafia do some crazy shit before, but never that (I've even suggested that in the past when I was Mafia, but was turned down because it was too crazy).

The AI has always seemed a bit suspicious to me (then again, that may be my gaming experience talking -- always with the rubberbanding and cheating AIs; good thing ours isn't like that or we'd all be screwed).

That leaves the following:
  • Redack
  • chiefsonny
  • hezekiah
  • Chaos Incarnate
  • EvilGuy
  • Dooku

    I think out of this list, Redack seems among the least suspicious. Well, it could go either way, but by no means does the fact he's still alive mean he's Mafia. Maybe they're pulling the sympathy card with him this time around; they've done that with Xhin in the past.

    EvilGuy is a hard one to tell, given he's always inactive.

    chief has never really struck me as suspicious this time around; he seems like he's just playing his normal game.

    hezy is another hard one, simply because he's a good player. He seems...borderline this time around, but that's almost every game with him.

    That leaves Chaos and Dooku. Two very good players, and equally as tough to figure out. I'm Godawful at reading people, so I could be dead wrong with this entire post, but these are just my thoughts.

  • July 9, 2015
    Black Yoshi

    Oh come on I'm not always inactive. I've been inactive the past few games yeah but I participate...it just always goes unnoticed. *Insert crying emote*

    Well, I know I'm going to regret this but...

    July 9, 2015
    EvilGuy0613

    He's been talking a lot but saying very little.


    As opposed to what? Everyone else saying absolutely nothing?

    If you even bothered to read all my replies in this thread they all said something of meaning so I'm not sure where your argument is coming from?

    July 9, 2015
    Moonray

    Also, Castrael, can we get a confirmation that this is a 72 hour round, and not a 48 hour round?


    She posted 72, and that's what I've been assuming it is. Kinda late in the round to change it to 48 now.

    I will be posting my thoughts and vote later today. Have a couple Warrants to serve first.

    July 9, 2015
    chiefsonny
     

    Friday should be the day I update the round in the morning. I decided to give you guys some time to think, etc.

    July 9, 2015
    Castrael

    For the record, I think that voting for Moonray is a mistake.

    July 10, 2015
    Count Dooku

    I've read the (fewer then normal) post. Went back and and looked at old Mafia games to refresh my memory of how others play and I came up with this list of who I think may be Mafia.

    First let me say that I don't think Ghowilo is Mafia or a Town power pole. If he was he'd be talking like a magpie.

    I do think Lady Flare was the virgin and was trying to give me a hint to vote for her so she got a Day Lynch and that way stop any night kills by the Mafia. I missed it and am sorry if I let her down.

    My top suspects are
    Chaos Incarnate
    Redack
    Black Yoshi
    Hezekiah Although after he voted for one of the people I think may be Mafia, he is very low on my list.

    I also doubt that Count Dooku is Mafia.

    And there was no restriction on OOG talk, while I have no proof, I do think it's being done.

    July 10, 2015
    chiefsonny
     

    If he was he'd be talking like a magpie.


    And that's not intended to be disrespectful. But usually when he's Mafia or Town power role he makes a lot of post

    July 10, 2015
    chiefsonny
     

    Hope I'm not making a mistake.

    July 10, 2015
    chiefsonny
     

    Just noticed the Cop thread disappeared from the locked threads...

    July 10, 2015
    Black Yoshi

    Game 37 - Night 4

    Since there weren't enough votes, but with the town's effort they have managed to survive this day round. The town has decided to lynch Moonray - the Godfather!

    The Players
    1. Speed Bike Pro - Hide/1st
    2. Black Yoshi
    3. Ghowilo
    4. Kaot0 - townie/dead/technical difficulties
    5. Redack - godfather/dead
    6. Feral Wolf - townie/dead
    7. White lancer - dead/distracted janitor
    8. GH0ST IN THE MACH1NE
    9. Hezekiah
    10. Lady Flare - Hide/2nd
    11. Chiefsonny
    12. Evilguy0613
    13. Count Dooku
    14. Chaos Incarnate

    Ratio
    1, 6

    You have 24 hours.

    July 10, 2015
    Castrael

    Just noticed the Cop thread disappeared from the locked threads...


    Errr, I just noticed that too. I just woke up. I don't recall doing that either.

    July 10, 2015
    Castrael

    Well... that looks bad for my part.

    July 10, 2015
    Count Dooku

    So we can now be confident that LF was not mafia. Was she the virgin? I don't know, I don't trust anything Moonray said at this point. If the Virgin is still alive, I think s/he should roleclaim next round.

    with a 1-7 split, we can afford two mis-lynches, but would need to be careful in the third round after this.

    As for Dooku, I maintain that he doesn't seem particularly suspicious, he would have jumped on the opportunity to lynch me had he been.

    I'm probably going to die tonight so I'll go ahead and try to figure out what I can before the round ends and put my thoughts forward.

    July 10, 2015
    Ghowilo

    Okay, so Black Yoshi cited the 4th as the excuse for his inactivity, but hasn't made many more posts since then. Suspicious imo.

    So my suggestion is for the cop to check on the AI, assuming the Cop is still around, and for the next lynch to be BY.

    July 10, 2015
    Ghowilo

    This thread is locked