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game 4 thread 4 night 4

Posted April 26, 2012 by Yeano

Continued from [p:63185].

Day 4.

And so it was that two more people died in this crazy game of chess.

In the foggy morning (when else would it happen?) the body of white lancer was found hanging from a TV antenna on a roof in town. He was a Townie.

Additionally, Xhin was found with tire tracks on him. He seemed to be run over by a heavy vehicle intentionally. He was a Townie.

1. Zanic - Double-voter
2. `Roxas`
3. CtR Black - Governor
4. white lancer - Townie
5. Shadowwalked
6. MajorasMask9
7. Knukles2000
8. Xhin - Townie
9. LLight - Cop
10. hezekiah
11. Helius
12. chiefsonny
13. Bubba - Ghoul
14. Malas
15. Teddy-Son - Doctor
16. Feral
17. Redack
18. #85

Mafia-Town Ratio: 5-6

Roles: Godfather, Executioner, Silencer, Thug, Mafioso, Cop, Doctor, Vigilante, Governor, Double-voter, Ghoul

72 hours or 7 votes (4 votes for 1/3)

WARNING: If your role changes to "Silenced," you may NOT post in this thread. If you do, you will be host-killed.

Also, updating rules of Executioner so that at least one non-mafia vote must be cast for that person in order to be Executed.

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TOWN: DO NOT RANDOMLY NOMINATE ANYBODY. IF A TOWNIE IS NOMINATED, THE WHOLE MAFIA CAN GLOM ON AND CAUSE AN EASY EXECUTIONER KILL

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hezekiah

Well, looks like the town is royally screwed.

LLight did leave behind two pretty clear fingers (Majora and Feral). I think the town would be stupid not to kill off one of them.

So Xhin wasn't the vigilante. I wonder who is, then...

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hezekiah

Actually, based on the Mafia-Town ratio, I am changing the round ending vote count to 6 votes as opposed to 7.

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Yeano

Guys, i'm sorry about playing my part in this. But you can't deny Llight was playing pretty stupid. I mean, he could of AT LEAST told us he was the cop sooner.

But anyway, i'd totally understand why if you guys lynch me, but I swear i'm just a Townie. And it seems the Mafia is all the more smarter this round than I gave them credit for. Also, it seems Xhin was trying to take the fall for the real vig... I assume the real one killed him though, the mafia killed White lancer.... omg, it's gonna take a lot of shit for us to pull a victory this game....

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Knukles2000

But I do agree on Majora, and Feral... not sure though...

Also, It's a wonder i'm not silenced already this round to me.

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Knukles2000

I'd think you're safe today, Knukles. LLight was very specific in his mentions of Feral and Majora (reply 1335392727), so they're the obvious choices. Heads for Majora, Tails for Feral?

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hezekiah

Well so much for that method... Regardless, I'd say take out Feral this time.

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hezekiah

Worth a shot I guess, but it's not necessarily my final decision This is a desperate point in the game.

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Knukles2000

D0 ~( flip )~ except remove the spaces.

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Knukles2000

Well, that was painful to watch.

I'd think you're safe today, Knukles. LLight was very specific in his mentions of Feral and Majora (reply 1335392727), so they're the obvious choices. Heads for Majora, Tails for Feral?

Works for me.

Also, It's a wonder i'm not silenced already this round to me.

Probably because you can be just as destructive to the town when you think you're onto something.

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Shadowwalked

Well, I rolled a tails. Shall I vote for Feral, or are we waiting to decide? I don't want to risk an execution unless we're positive on this.

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Shadowwalked

Whatever, man. I did what I thought I should. Llight was acting way too suspicious, and his style of gameplay didn't add up to much except Mafia. Just accept it, the town as a WHOLE played a horrible game this time. I didn't EVEN start the Llight trend, I just carried it along cause I believed in it.

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Knukles2000

Whatever, man. I did what I thought I should. Llight was acting way too suspicious, and his style of gameplay didn't add up to much except Mafia. Just except it, the town as a WHOLE played a horrible game this time. I didn't EVEN start the Llight trend, I just carried it along cause I believed in it.

I'm not intending to sound like an asshole here dude, but that is the only justification I see behind it. If the mafia perceived you as a threat, they probably would have killed or silenced you by now.

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Shadowwalked

We have 11 remaining players. 5 are mafia, 6 are not. The following is how I see the game currently.

Mafia
MajorasMask9
Feral

Town
hezekiah
Knukles2000
Shadowwalked

Unknown
`Roxas`
Helius
chiefsonny
Malas
Redack
#85


I'm amused by the result of those flips (and remember, you can just use '' to show markup syntax... ~(''flip)~ would've done what you needed)

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hezekiah

True, but there are greater threats, as most of the time in this game than me.

But anyway... i'm assuming he meant cast it now. But I think we should think about it afterwards... and change if we think we should.

Since our votes conflict each other atm, this should n't be too much a danger.

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Knukles2000

Well I suppose there's no harm in us casting preliminary votes for one of the two. I'll try another flip to see if I get a 3:1 or 4:0...

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hezekiah

And I forgot to do a flip anyway. But since Knukles has gone for Majora, I see no harm in following suit (as long as we target "guaranteed" mafia, we're safe to vote).

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hezekiah

Majora it is then.

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Shadowwalked

Now I'm shocked that I have yet to be silenced or killed off, being the last "power player" of the game.

I know this: I can trust hezekiah and Knux.

We have Feral and Majora as possible targets to take out today. I think we need to work on developing who the remaining three Mafia are. I'd say Redack is a pretty safe bet in the Night or next day round to go after as well. I know if I were Mafia, with the Night 0 option enacted this game, I'd target one of my own in order to draw suspicions off of that player. Helius may or may not be, still not too sure. My last guess would be Malas or #85. #85 has gone way under the radar this game, something out of his nature.

I think for the Townies it needs to be a unanimous decision. Before moving forward with the vote. Not mob mentality, simply unanimous decision.

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`Roxas`

Shadow..... you flipped Feral...

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Knukles2000

I can guarantee you that I am a Townie, hezekiah.

And so I think we're settled on MM9. Let's hope we are right with this.

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`Roxas`

Should the Vig kill Majora or Feral after this day round though?

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Knukles2000

Well..... at least if we're wrong this game will be overwith soon.

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Knukles2000

Whoop, I did the same mistake that Shadow did. A little too late if MM9 is a Townie, which I think we all doubt.

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`Roxas`

I think it would be safe to assume whoever isn't killed in the Day Round is who the Vig goes after.

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`Roxas`

Roxas, may as well leave your vote at Majora; we'll have to settle on one of them eventually, and we seem to have pretty much settled on Majora already.

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hezekiah

Hm... 4 votes are needed for the Executioner to kill...

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Knukles2000

Shadow..... you flipped Feral...

Oh, w/e

Whoop, I did the same mistake that Shadow did. A little too late if MM9 is a Townie, which I think we all doubt.

Well if he isn't executed, we'll at least have some validation.

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Shadowwalked

Guess so.

Now who else do you think is Mafia, hezekiah? Outside of Feral and MM9?

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`Roxas`

Well anybody who doesn't vote for Majora or Feral certainly is. That's as good a starting point as any.

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hezekiah

I see a bug in the "Vote Tallies By Round": Shadow's vote for Feral is showing up in the Round 3 column...

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hezekiah

Blah, I change my vote to Feral, everyone changes it back to Majora. You guys and your flippity flopping.

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Shadowwalked

Odd... I see what hez pointed out too.

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Knukles2000

Odd... I see what hez pointed out too.

Yeah, I pointed it out to Yeano. He said Xhin would fix it tomorrow. It's probably due to not being able to vote last round.

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Shadowwalked

So you WERE silenced? Not just being silent as Xhin apparently thought last round?

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Knukles2000

So you WERE silenced? Not just being silent as Xhin apparently thought last round?

Yes, I was silenced. You should know by now that I'm much too full of myself to go a whole 72 hour period without talking.

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Shadowwalked

I thought so.

And upon reviewing the votes, I find it odd that three of my suspicions voted No Kill last time, where as Feral, MM9 and Malas voted with the majority to rid the town of the Cop, LLight. Just pointing out somethings as I review last rounds votes.

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`Roxas`

Just posting to let you know I'll read and vote later today...

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Redack

If it makes you guys feel better LLight didn't actually check me. I know there's no point in arguing a case since the cop just said that I was guilty in a very indirect way, but I think LLight assumed I was the godfather and bluffed it in his post if he even checked me at all. If he actually checked me, he would have gotten an innocent verdict, and I swear that isn't just some lie to attempt to look innocent.

He said he'd break the game or something after he died (that was what I gathered) and reveal everything then: It sounded as if he was going to reveal more than he knew as the cop. I don't know what he was planning, but I'm DEFINITELY not mafia. I'd like to give Feral a chance to speak too if LLight pulled a false indirect mafia claim on him too, for whatever reason.

EDIT: Oh son of a bitch I have 4 votes already. FYI, unless you guys lynch a mafia and shoot one at night, they're going to win. Hell, if they silenced Feral they already won since this vote would at worst end with a tie for them.

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MajorasMask9

I don't entirely think you are mafia, Majora. It's just it's ALL we really have atm.

I mean, Llight was also suspicious of Hez basing his argument on him acting different. But thats about all we really have.

I don't think Hez is Mafia though, plus it seems a better chance on one of you anyway..

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Knukles2000

I'm voting for hezekiah. I know for a fact that I'm not mafia, and if LLight did the same thing for Feral as he did to me then I think there's a good chance he isn't mafia.

Hezekiah has been suspicious in my eyes for a while now, and is one of the players I thought would be "definitely mafia" if LLight was revealed to be a town-sided role. The signs were too obvious IMO, and the fact that you so easily rushed to a "flip the coin" vote in a situation as close to the end as this (despite assuming we were both called "guilty" by the cop, which I definitely wasn't and am not!), when you already said we should take this round slow. You'd have nothing to lose from that coin flip if LLight pointed out two townies as possible mafia suspects in his last reply.

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MajorasMask9

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MajorasMask9

We don't know that you aren't mafia though. . And while I am somewhat suspicious of Hez, i just don't buy it yet.

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Knukles2000

That's why I'm kind of confused right now and have no idea what kind of shit LLight is trying to pull. Honestly, at the end I was so not hesitant to switch my vote to him because I assumed he was essentially saying "I'm the cop and got a guilty verdict on you majora", which I knew wasn't true so I took it as a mafia claim on his part.

As I already said I have no way to defend myself since the cop just inferred that I'm guilty. I think my ONLY way to defend myself, and this is still open to scrutiny, is that: If two or more townies are still able to vote for me, then some mafia members have voted for me already. With the numbers this low and ratio this close, there's some things no sane mafia member would do, and voting for one of their own at this point in the game is one of them.

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MajorasMask9

Giving it some though, there's something I want to know before anyone casts a day-ending vote:

Feral, are you the vigilante?

I've had my suspicions that Feral was the vigilante for a while now, and that Xhin was attempting to cover for him. If Feral is the vigilante, and he claims, with no counterclaims, then he is innocent. If he is confirmed innocent, that should be proof of the BS that LLight is trying to pull.

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MajorasMask9

I may change my vote later, but for now it seems quite clear.

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Malas

Right now the only people that have yet to vote for me are:

Chiefsonny
Redack
Feral
Helius
#85

I know that I'm a townie, which means that some of the people voting for me are mafia. If ANY of you are a townie, that should be proof. I have 5 votes for me right now, and I myself am a townie. I believe Feral to be the vigilante. If there is another townie, then this is blatantly contradictory.

As I said, I urge the rest of you not to make a day-ending vote. If I get one more vote, I'll die and the ratio will be 5-5, meaning game over. I'd really like to give Feral a chance to speak. Last game, the town lost because of a day round that went by too quickly, and I don't want to see a repeat.

EDIT: And, ideally, I'd feel a lot better if any of you voting for me could change to "not voting" for now if you guys are even townies. For someone that wants to be sure the town makes the right decision, hezekiah sure was quick to try to get me lynched before I could even post any sort of defense.

My entire defense relies on Feral being the vigilante. Ending the round before he can even speak is denying him a chance to defend himself and prevent a townie death/mafia win.

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MajorasMask9

I'm flattered you think so highly of me, majora, but I have to dissapoint you. I am not the Vig. If I were, I wouldn't have killed Xhin, whom I knew to be innocent. My accidental knowledge of Xhin's role was my dark secret(I did something by accident to gain that knowledge, immediately told Yeano what happened, and was pardoned).

I WISH I was Mafia. AT least then I would be on the winning team and earn some much needed Mafia points. Sadly, I am not. I am a scared Townie with no freinds and everybody out to get me because I pretty much led the charge against the cop(who was an IMBECILE in this game!).

Haha, now then Feral... I'm feeling quite nostalgic, we've known each other for years here. Doesn't this remind you of the good old days? It was always me vs the moderator and the forum. I couldn't help but start feeling nostalgic after all this. I mean it's like "he was an asshole, but at least that asshole was right". I was really hoping you'd pick up on at least one of the loopholes and change your vote, but I guess that didn't happen. Come on now, let's have one last drink at the mafia town bar. Haha we don't even have a name for this town, don't even know what to call it. Well, won't you join me for one last drink before I die? It would do an old war horse like me a favour, this drink between friends.

Where in this reply does LLight accuse me of being Mafia? All I see is him talking about our days in the old Final Fantasy forums on the original GT and chastising me for missing some hints about his innocents. TRY READING WHAT HE POSTED, geniuses!

I don't believe that LLight used his cop ability to reveal Majora is the Thug as you all think. I think it was an educated guess. Otherwise, why not just come out and say it instead of talking in riddles?

Now, as far as my vote goes, I am pretty sure I am either gonna screw myself or end the game badly. I vote for Majora, they town sees that we are not allies, and I clear myself, But then, we lose another townie, and the game ends. If I don't vote for Majora, then I give the impression that we ARE allies, and the vig kills me tonight, and the game ends. Well, since a loss is a given, I would at least like to be alive when we lose, so sorry Majora.

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Feral

You know, I'm starting to believe MM9.

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`Roxas`

But that doesn't mean I will at the end of things.

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`Roxas`

Right now I suspect both feral and majora. Feral I have suspected much longer, he was probably the strongest supporter of killing LLight. It's possible they are both mafia, or one is and one isn't, but I'd rather go with feral.

Knukles also gets some suspicion for going to bat for feral.

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#85

How in the hell did we go from 13 to 6 in 3 days?

I knew that Xhin. would get taken out. And it's his stupid fault. Why would you claim to be something you're not when you know that the mafia would want to get the Vig.

I just read all that mushy crap LLight wrote and I'm just a little concerned if this was just more of his way to fuck up the game. A last hooray.

"I am not the Vig. If I were, I wouldn't have killed Xhin, whom I knew to be innocent. My accidental knowledge of Xhin's role was my dark secret"

Jesus man, do you know how that sounds. Why didn't you share that info with everyone before the night round and maybe the mafia or the real vig. would have not killed him.

"(I did something by accident to gain that knowledge, immediately told Yeano what happened, and was pardoned)."

How do you do that? This forum is supposed to be limited access. Why would you be fucking around in this forum and have an accident. Seems like a lot of that crap happens in this game. No wonder we can't attract new player.

I don't know what your role is. But I'm voting for you because by not sharing with us the info you had about Xhin cost us a townie, and for screwing around where you shouldn't have. How many other dark secrets do you have?

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chiefsonny
 

Uh, except I DID share that info last round.

White Lancer made a fatal mistake by asking Xhin(who is 100% Townie, btw) who he killed as vig.

I couldn't tell you HOW I knew, short of saying I had a dark secret, or Yeano would have host killed me for cheating. That was as far as he would let me go with it.

And my accident was on the mod panel, not this forum. It has to do with something Xhin set up for me ages ago then forgot about when he built Yeano's panel.

Oh, and I'm not the only one bending rules. Which still live player sent me a message on Facebook a couple day back, insinuating they were a townie? Maybe the last Admin knows...

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Feral

"Which still live player sent me a message on Facebook a couple day back, insinuating they were a townie? Maybe the last Admin knows.."

And that's the kind of thing that's turning me off to this game. The playing field for the game should be level for everyone.
Well I know I wasn't that admin. So for now I'm changing my vote.

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chiefsonny
 

Never mind. I'm doing just what I get pissed when Teddy does it. Fliping back and forth.
Leaving my vote the way it was. LLight never mentioned anyone one else and you said this admin said he was a townie.

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chiefsonny
 

This might give me a much needed alternative to accepting Townie defeat. hezy is much more likely mafia then majora in my eyes.

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Feral

Dammit, you got my hopes up! Back to praying for a miracle.

Oh, and Helius is silenced. He in the only one who hasn't spoken this round.

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Feral

I can't believe you guys actually lynched LLight, I mean really... {:/}

Anyway there's three suspects I've had for a little bit now. Feral, Hezekiah and MM9... I haven't decided on who the other two might be yet. Since most are voting for one of those I'll join in...

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Redack

"hezy is much more likely mafia then majora in my eyes."

And then you vote for him and 7 min. later vote for Majora.

Have you been hanging out with Teddy.

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chiefsonny
 

I already had 6 votes thanks to Feeal, so it's game over at this point since that locks me into death. I was banking pm Feral being a townie, but I guess he actually was mafia.

GG mafia.

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MajorasMask9

I'm getting as confused as Teddy has been, now. I just don't know anymore.

I'm torn between Feral and hezekiah right now.

So, for now, I will be voting for myself. (Logic behind this is if the Mafia hasn't killed me yet, they probably won't at all.)

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`Roxas`

Hrm, actually...

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Redack

"I'm torn between Feral and hezekiah right now."

Well which one is posting the most to convince us he's not mafia and which one was not in LLight's farewell speech to the troops.

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chiefsonny
 

I voted for Hezy when Cheif gave me an opening. When Chief closed the opening right back up, I had to change MY vote back as well, in order to protect myself.

Doesn't matter anymore, though. I know what I am, and with the vigilante and executioner still in play, the game is done anyway. I have no doubt a townie (me) WILL die tonight, and the game will end.

For what's it's worth, I am confusing you all so badly, not through some strategy, but because I suck at this game, and have been stumbling through it like a drunk hobo.

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Feral

Or I could... Yes I think I'll stick with this...

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Redack

Why would he only bring up two players when he possibly investigated a third? That's where this doesn't add up in my mind. He knew he was going to die, and instead of doing the logical thing when faced with death and just said who he investigated and the verdicts, he just left us wondering exactly who to vote for this round.

Feral, if you are indeed a townie, I'm sorry that my vote had to be cast for you at the end of things.

The Mafia played the best game this time around of ANY Mafia before them, and I'd say any one group as well. Congrats, you had us all deceived should you win today.

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`Roxas`

I voted Llight last round mostly because I was annoyed by him, and I believed that his 'strategy' in the first two rounds was fucking us over on purpose.

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Malas

Helius is silenced (or faking being silenced) this round.

So now Feral is claiming vigilante. This gives us two options:
1) Kill Feral. If he's lying and mafia, great. If he's telling the truth, then the town loses (5/5 becoming 5/4 after the night round)

2) Kill Majora. LLight gave some pretty heavy implications yesterday that both Majora and Feral are mafia. But if LLight was lying or something about Feral, then we're still okay; Feral can make another hit at night, or choose not to and hope the town gets more useful info to make a good lynch.
But if Feral's lying about being the vigilante, then he'll probably die tonight.

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hezekiah

Ah, didn't realize that Feral already pointed that out back in 1335455190...

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hezekiah

that both Majora and LLight are mafia.

I think you got your names mixed up XD

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Redack

Indeed I did...

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hezekiah

If Feral is the vigilante and if he picks wrong tonight and kills another one of us then we're screwed as well because the vigilante action proceeds any others. Sure the mafia may take him out, but he will have already taken one of us out if he picks wrong.

I don't want to take that chance. My vote stays with Feral.

Man, I still can not believe we lost 5 people in 3 days. Can't tell me that No Vote crap is a good thing.

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chiefsonny
 

When the ratio is equal (5:5), we lose. We have to get this right.

That being said, the only way we will find out is to lynch somebody, and right now MM9 is the one to be lynched.

MajorasMask9: Redack, hezekiah, Feral, Knux, Malas, Shadowwalked
Feral: chiefsonny, #85, myself
hezekiah: MajorasMask9
Silenced(?): Helius

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`Roxas`

Man, I still can not believe we lost 5 people in 3 days. Can't tell me that No Vote crap is a good thing.

I think you mean seven, if we count the ghoul since he was town-sided.

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`Roxas`

Chief: your logic is faulty. If Feral (as the Vigilante) dies during the day round, the mafia wins; they'd have a 5/5 tie with the town, and still able to kill somebody at night to make it 5/4.

If Feral is the vigilante, we need him to stay alive. LLight insinuated that he may be mafia, but he was rather vague about it.

I guess in short, I'm asking you to explain your reasoning for voting for Feral right now.

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hezekiah

Guys, the round is over and votes don't matter anymore. Had Yeano been online, he would have locked the thread when Feral voted for me before Roxas changed his (Since Yeano changed the majority vote from 7 to 6, which I don't understand since it's always been half + 1. The ratio shouldn't matter.

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MajorasMask9

I'm not seeing it, Majora; the most votes there have been for you at any one time is 6. Roxas was #6, before switching to a no Vote in reply 1335451836. So here we are still.

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hezekiah

"I guess in short, I'm asking you to explain your reasoning for voting for Feral right now.

Because it was between him and you as to who I think is Mafia. But since LLight did not mention you and he did point a limp finger at Feral.
And I thought LLight's glowing words about MajorasMask9 were just to off the wall. I think he wanted us to think MM9 was mafia. He may be. But I'm not convinced. I'm still not sure of you however.

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chiefsonny
 

Well I'm off to work now. I'm gonna hope I return home to Night Four (or Day Five, even?) with Majora dead, but I'll have to wait and see...

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hezekiah

At the beginning of the day, Yeano said he changed the amount of votes needed for majority from 7 to 6.

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MajorasMask9

IMPORTANT

The numbers aren't adding up. A mafia has no doubt cast his vote for majora. This means that it's a smokescreen and they are sacrificing majora, or they are trying to save feral. I believe the latter.

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#85

I think three or four of them hopped on to kicking MM9 out. One or two could have gone to Feral. This would be smart in order to cover their tracks by expanding the field of who we would suspect.

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`Roxas`

Everybody needs to read through this thread again. As I said befote, I am NOT the vigalante. I am a plain old Townie.

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Feral

I've noticed that, Feral. Never said you were.

No matter what, looks like MM9 is the deciding factor today.

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`Roxas`

Why are there 7 votes for MM9 when the "Vote Tallies by Round" only show 6 people voting for him?

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chiefsonny
 

"I am NOT the vigalante"

Hezy is the one that was implying you might be.

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chiefsonny
 

So many sheep voters, well, if we are wrong about majora we pretty much lose. That's why I'd rather go feral since he has been so sketchy in his gameplay. I personally think they are both mafia, with feral being a bit more obvious. So im gonna lobby for the town to vote feral. Majora has played more consistent and is more "controllable" for lack of a better word. I'll be down to take majora out next I don't want people to think I'm going to bat for him, but cmon feral has been OBVIOUS and has subtly implied he was the cop when he lobbied everyone to take out LLight and then subtly implied he was the vig, all to further some hidden goal in my opinion.

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#85

Eh, Feral and Hezekiah are on my suspect list... But I find MM9 more suspect...

Plus you called me a sheep... If you're gonna call me an animal at least have the decency to make it the rat or the scorpion.

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Redack

Didn't mean it as an insult, it's just something you have to be careful of doing, it's so easy for the mafia to play off of that.

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#85

Shadowwalked was silenced last round, so his vote this round went to last round. Same issue that Redack faced on Day 2.

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`Roxas`

Didn't mean it as an insult, it's just something you have to be careful of doing, it's so easy for the mafia to play off of that.

Was only messing with you, I learnt long ago not to get insulted by what people say {:P} and I picked MM9 because out of the three I suspect, he already had the most votes. Seemed the easiest solution for me really.

Shadowwalked was silenced last round, so his vote this round went to last round. Same issue that Redack faced on Day 2.

I thought Xhin fixed that, I guess he just shifted the vote manually somewhere.

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Redack

Before I die and the game ends I'm just going to post my suspicion list so I can see how right or wrong I was afterward.

Mafia:
-Feral
-Hezekiah
-Malas
-#85
-Roxas

No idea on the vigilante though! Thought for sure it'd be Feral. Maybe Knukles?

April 26, 2012
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MajorasMask9

My guess at the full Mafia would be

MM9
Feral
Hezekiah
Malas or Knuckles
#85

I'm undecided on Malas and Knuckles.

April 26, 2012
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Redack

You shall be wrong on at least one of those Mafia members, MM9.

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`Roxas`

I wish I could vote for all of you, terrible decision after terrible decision and not a single mafia is dead yet.

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#85

First two rounds were on LLight and his bullshit strategy that only benefited himself.

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`Roxas`

I don't like where ANY of this is going... as such, i'm going to not voting until I can wrap my head around this.

April 26, 2012
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Knukles2000

Oops.

April 26, 2012
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Knukles2000

Alright. I think Hez, Feral, and Majora MIGHT all be mafia. But Hez plans to use them to lure us into a false sense of security, then throw us off later. Llight mentioned 3 times in the last round his suspicions of Hez. But he also mentioned Majora and Feral indeed.

Then theres majoras supposed suspects.







Which seems to make sense to me.

I mean, where was #85 this whole game? He's normally aggressive, going into people headstrong to see what they know.Now he's passive, and ranting to us about voting out the wrong person.

Redack is new, but it's hard to tell. It's really just gut with him ATM.

Chiefsonny, well. He's about the same almost every game, so it's another gut ATM.

Feral, he has being very shady this entire game.

I think Helius MIGHT have voted against Llight to throw us off. Theres no way he could of KNEW Llight was innocent.

Now, I don't completely support, or back any side to this argument. Everyone is potentially Mafia at this point though.

April 26, 2012
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Knukles2000

Regardless, I must admit that Majora seems a fair guess. But i'm not ENTIRELY sold yet...

April 27, 2012
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Knukles2000

It's not like this speculating is even going to matter when Yeano ends the game when he comes online!

April 27, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Yeano was online. He's letting us debate, and figure out what we are doing for sure, and if we want to change our minds. When everyone is pretty much in agreement, and not much is going to change our minds (like last round with Llight) then he ends it.

April 27, 2012
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Knukles2000

Majora (1335463590): my bad, I missed that part of what Yeano said...

At this point, we're waiting. Either Majora's a mafia or the game's over.

April 27, 2012
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hezekiah

For the sake of making the best decision possible.

The two constants in our theories are MM9 and Feral.

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`Roxas`

I also see that a few of us believe that #85 is Mafia as well.

April 27, 2012
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`Roxas`

Well. There was 7 votes on Majora. we know AT LEAST 1 is Mafia. Which is it?

April 27, 2012
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Knukles2000

Am I the only one to pick up on the point that LLight talked about 2 people in his last post.

Feral and Majora

Feral votes for Majora, but Majora does not vote for Feral to cancel out his vote. Instead Majora votes for hezekiah.

Does that sound like someone that's mafia or someone that's trying to vote for someone they think is mafia.

I don't know, but I've read these damn post until my eyes hurt. What I do know is that we can not afford to screw this up. AGAIN

April 27, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

Chief. Llight mentioned Hez too. See replies 1335307375, 1335316763 for Llight.


1335223429 For White Lancer.

They are all in the last round.

April 27, 2012
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Knukles2000

However, even though he was the cop, i'm not sure we should trust him. I get the feeling that he was just fucking with our heads for fun based on his game and wordplay.

April 27, 2012
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Knukles2000

I'm talking about the next to last post he made before the night round in which he was killed.

#1335392727

April 27, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

That post is a good point Chief. But i'm still not sure we can trust him, or if he was completely sure.

April 27, 2012
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Knukles2000

The more I look back on that post, the more that, as Knux says, he was fucking with us this entire time. Which has me reconsidering this round.

While hezekiah did say we shouldn't vote for somebody in fear the Mafia would jump on and knock us out now, followed by doing just that, I think he is innocent.

This leaves Helius. I'm not too sure what he is, but I'm thinking Townie.

Maybe LLight is throwing us off by casting doubts on Feral and MM9.

If the above is true, then that would be two more town-sided roles. I believe Knux is a townie as well. With me, that is four.

That being said, I do think the Mafia this time is a well oiled machine. So my ideas are as follows:

#85 - Silencer
Redack - Thug
Shadowwalked - Executioner
Malas - Mafioso
chiefsonny - Godfather

This would make a ton of sense. No one would expect chiefsonny, at any point in this game, to be the Godfather. #85 knows that if they silence their own, it would make us believe that those people were town-sided; that's where Redack and Shadowwalked come in to play. As a beginner, Redack's lack of talking, plus being a member of the Mafia, makes sense. While with Shadowwalked, the Mafia knows that we were already suspicious of LLight and so could predict that if he were not killed by the Executioner then, we'd surely kill him on Day 3. They'd silence the Executioner because there was no need for him on Day 3. They knew what would play out, so no sense in risking putting somebody in danger. And so that leaves Malas. I've stated I find both hezekiah and Helius to be innocent. Nobody else could fit into the Mafia but Malas.

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`Roxas`

Well, it makes sense, and this is our last chance. I'm going for Chief as well...

April 27, 2012
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Knukles2000

Wow... Huge DERP moment there.

April 27, 2012
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`Roxas`

I didn't notice it either.

But assuming a townie isn't silenced today is really the towns only hope...

April 27, 2012
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Knukles2000

Damn it Llight, I know your reading this. You should of spoke up while you had the chance. You screwed us all over.

April 27, 2012
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Knukles2000

I gotta say, none of these votes right now matter... The town's had the 6 for Majora for quite some time now, so that should be the final result of the Day.

April 27, 2012
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hezekiah

Also, because we all know you are ridiculing who is left here in the game, maybe if we had a RELIABLE cop who was USEFUL, we wouldn't be in this situation.

April 27, 2012
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`Roxas`

^

Also, Yeano. If a townie is silenced you might as well call a game over now, cause it's pointless unless a Mafia wants to be a dumbass.

April 27, 2012
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Knukles2000

It only matters when Yeano sees all the votes. If he had already, I'm sure he would have ended this.

April 27, 2012
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`Roxas`

I'm now entirely convinced that 'Roxas', along with Feral and Majora, is Mafia, with Knuckles as either a townie going along with it, or a fellow Mafia.

My reasoning is as follows:

LLight was the cop, but if I recall correctly, 'Roxas' was the first to vote for him "Until someone changed his mind". After that occurred, literally everyone piled on the bandwagon, lynching our cop. I knew he was acting strange, and LLight knew he was acting strange. His strategy now is almost indistinguishable from when we were Cultists together.

I know what strategy he's trying to use now, and its the one hezekiah warned against at the very beginning of the thread:

TOWN: DO NOT RANDOMLY NOMINATE ANYBODY. IF A TOWNIE IS NOMINATED, THE WHOLE MAFIA CAN GLOM ON AND CAUSE AN EASY EXECUTIONER KILL

He's trying to gang-executioner kill us all, and if he IS a townie (Highly unlikely at this point), he's just as destructive a force.

April 27, 2012
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Shadowwalked

Busy day for me... Couldn't get online earlier. The round technically should have ended when MajorasMask9 reached the sixth vote against him in reply 1335450643. Votes after this reply have not been counted.

Night 4.

As MajorasMask9 was about to be lynched by the town, #85 jumped in the way and took the lynching for him. #85 was the Thug.

1. Zanic - Double-voter
2. `Roxas`
3. CtR Black - Governor
4. white lancer - Townie
5. Shadowwalked
6. MajorasMask9
7. Knukles2000
8. Xhin - Townie
9. LLight - Cop
10. hezekiah
11. Helius
12. chiefsonny
13. Bubba - Ghoul
14. Malas
15. Teddy-Son - Doctor
16. Feral
17. Redack
18. #85 - Thug

Mafia-Town Ratio: 4-6

Roles: Godfather, Executioner, Silencer, Thug, Mafioso, Cop, Doctor, Vigilante, Governor, Double-voter, Ghoul

24 hours!

WARNING: If your role changes to "Silenced," you may NOT post in this thread. If you do, you will be host-killed.

Also, updating rules of Executioner so that at least one non-mafia vote must be cast for that person in order to be Executed.

Continued in [p:64898].

April 27, 2012
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Yeano

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