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game 5 mafia thread

Posted May 2, 2012 by Yeano

Hello, Mafia!

Kyon is the Godfather. He will show up as Town-Aligned when checked by a Cop. He also breaks a tie in killing votes.

Count Dooku is the Mafia Investigator. Each night, he checks someone's room. At the end of the night round, that person's role will be revealed in the mafia thread.

hezekiah is the Silencer. Every day, the Silencer can choose one person to silence. That person cannot talk or pardon someone during that day. The same person cannot be silenced two days in a row.

Teddy-Son is a Mafioso.

Knukles2000 is a Mafioso.

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This portion of the post updated by hezekiah, for quick reference.

Remaining roles: Vigilante, Doctor, Psychiatrist, Double-Voter, Townie (x3)

Shadowwalked - Psychiatrist?
Redack
Helius - townie
`Roxas` - townie per Knukles
Zanic - townie
poptart!
Bubba - targeted by vigilante

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Well, we can at least use this time to form out a strategy. We got an investigator which is good. I've been thinking the Mafia needed one anyway.

@Dooku, it's just my opinion, but I think you should investigate Majora's Mask. It's just a hunch, but I think he may be an important role.

@Hezekiah, I think you should silence Llight, Xhin, or Majora. They tend to be powerful leaders for the town.

@Kyon, obviously you should not draw attention to yourself. But of course you should talk some, as the town seems to love accusing people as Mafia when they silent.

@Teddy, you should play it cool. Knowing you that isn't exactly easy, but the fact is you just tend to be too easy for people here to read. Just do your best lay low the best you can, talk a little, and vote when it seems best to, but IMO (could be wrong) You might want to leave the dirty work to us if you can't think you can't

Anyway, i'm just throwing out how I see it. You guys can take it or leave it.

I think you guys can use your night actions in night 0 unless I observed wrong, so prolly should do that.

May 3, 2012
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Knukles2000

If it doesn't kill someone, it can be used.

May 3, 2012
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Yeano

hey Yeano, if theres five us here, why are 6 mafia sided showed? Is that the Lunatic? I thought he only appeared that way to the cop.

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Knukles2000

@Knuckles2000, what makes you suspect MM? I was personally going to investigate either Helius or Feral night one.

@Hezekiah, as a first time player I'm not really able to recommend anything to you yet :P

@Kyon, first time player etc. can't advise you

@Teddy, as Knuckles2000 said, play it cool and we'll get to kill off a lot of Jedi/Sithians

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Count Dooku

It's just a hunch. But investigate whoever you will.

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Knukles2000

Oh, and Hez. Llight would mostly likely be the best to silence, and kill the next day. He's bad news for the Mafia AND town. Last game with what he sad in the dead thread proved that. It all depends on his mood, but he has the means to not only cheat, but use a bunch of statistic Jargon to deduce who the Mafia are.

May 3, 2012
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Knukles2000

I'll check in later. Probably around 10 eastern.

May 3, 2012
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hezekiah

So... ya. In case those of you new here don't get it... you can say I want to investigate/silence (insert person here) right now... Just making sure you guys knew. We only have like 24 hours or something to do our night actions for Night 0. We just can't kill anyone THIS night.

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Knukles2000

:P What's the rush?

But anyway, alright. I'll investigate Helius.

I also agree on silencing LLight and then wacking him (provided Helius isn't anything more than a townie)

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Count Dooku

I'm not rushing, just making sure everyone knew they could do that.

And I think we should get rid of Llight regardless of his role. He's such a damn Shelock he could prolly have 3-4 of us figured out in the matter of a round.

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Knukles2000

For the record, LLight is not playing this game.

May 3, 2012
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Yeano

I'll let you guys do the dirty work I am not that good at this. Especially with the new roles that confuse the hell out of me. But its cool he have a smart guy Hez, and another Jeid Sithan with me.

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Teddy-Son

For the record, LLight is not playing this game.

Oh god lol, I guess it would help if we payed attention to who we're after.

May 3, 2012
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Count Dooku

I thought I saw Llight sign up, man where have I been? Ugh, I hate when I do stuff like that.

Ok, in that case I think we should silence and kill Majora.

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Knukles2000

what did Majora do wrong?

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Teddy-Son

He's a brain of the town, obviously. This is a game. It's not about who did what wrong.

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Knukles2000

I thought he said something weird but okay that does make sense. We don't want the smart guys who are against us catching up to us.

And if you are around Yeano, Kyon is Eagle0 he said so when he signed in and yet you placed him as Kyon. It confuses us that you have him as Eagle in the list but as mafia you have him as Kyon

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Teddy-Son

Yeah it's confusing, sorry about that, I'll be Kyon for the whole game.

Also as somebody who's a first time player:

I have no idea what I'm doing.

BRB READING RULES AGAIN.

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Kyon

I think my best bet would be to silence somebody who is (perceived to be) inactive on the site, and then have one of us (Kyon? Teddy?) fake being silenced. That would allow us to draw all suspicion away from them.

Why Kyon? To protect against the cop finding the possible dual silence fishy
Why Teddy? Later in the game we can have him claim a power role and make it more believable.

Looking at the player list, I think poptart is a good bet to silence. He went very inactive the last game he played (due to lack of interest because he was a vanilla townie), so the same thing could be suggested this game.

Actually, scratch that. We can use poptart's attitude to figure him out; if he's active, he's probably a power role.

Shadowwalked
CtR Black
Redack
#85
MajorasMask9
Helius
`Roxas`
Zanic
Xhin
poptart!
Bubba
white lancer
DragonintheShadow
chiefsonny

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hezekiah

BTW that's simply a list of all the townies. Question is if we want to do what I suggested (silence a quiet person, fake one of us being silenced) or a Silence-Kill combo. Thinking more about it, I think a silence-kill is a better bet.

Knukles, don't be afraid to make your trademark wild accusations at us (especially Teddy, since you're the two vanilla mafia); either of you getting killed would then draw suspicion far away from the other.

One person I'd like to see die early on is Shadow, but I don't think he should be our first target. Majora seems like the best bet for me.


I work from 2-8 Eastern tomorrow, which means I wouldn't be home in time to cast my vote. If necessary, I authorize the other mafia members to choose my silence target, in the following order: Kyon (Eagle0), Knukles, Teddy-Son, Count Dooku. I don't plan on needing that to happen at all, but may as well make it official before I forget.

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hezekiah

One final thought: we may as well exchange contact info (AIM / email / whatever). In case we need to contact each other immediately, or simply to talk strategy.

AIM: Thehezy
email: hezekiah957@gmail.com

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hezekiah

And this is why I am glad to be on the same team as Hezekiah for once. I don't mind pretending to be silenced one round. I mean this game confuses me then the previous ones more then ever and it is hard, to vote on who is mafia. Even harder to convince you aren't one. So I second his logic.

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Teddy-Son

I lied, not final yet. I can try to use Shadow like he used me last game, should we want to go that route. As of now, I'd say our top threats are Majora, Xhin, lancer, Helius and chief. Chief's less so than the others, due to his very reserved nature.

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hezekiah

That sounds cool to me. And if you want to talk to me, my AIM is Teddy0415. Not that is should matter much but just in case.

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Teddy-Son

I'll make this my last post for now, or I'll never get to bed.

I think the "fake silence" strategy is best kept for later, when an opportunity presents itself (our silence target dying from another's hand).

And BTW Teddy, my name isn't capitalized :-P

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hezekiah

Ohh okay alright I'll remember that.{:)}

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Teddy-Son

Well, er. I guess I choose Majora then if he's leaving it to us to pick whos being silenced for if he can't be here.

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Knukles2000

AIM cdooku6

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Count Dooku

I won't aiming or emailing anyone, I should be fine alone or from the mafia thread. too much a hassle anyway.

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Knukles2000

I really like the fake silencing plan, but I'm slowly leaning towards the silence/kill combo.


I read over the last game and it was pretty obvious that Majora knew how to play this game, and play it well. So silencing him would be a good idea also.

Also on a side note: I know I'm the Godfather but it would be a huge help if you guys would coach me through as much as you can until I get a good idea on how to play.

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Kyon

So Majora it is then?

Eagle, when I first I started the game I was also the Godfather and all I was told was too lay back not to draw attention to yourself. This is my third time to play and it gets more confusing each game.

So I I guess don't act different then you normally act, play it cool and don't draw attention to yourself is all I can say.

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Teddy-Son

Knukles, it was a general note, not specific to this case. If I haven't decided by 2 PM Eastern tomorrow, then you guys would get to pick for me.

I will choose to silence MajorasMask9.

As far as our investigation goes, I think that Dooku should:
1) make a post allowing for the rest of us to make a pick for him should he for whatever reason be unable to
2) Check somebody who we're not necessarily suspicious of. I figure that we'll hit the "dangerous" targets (Majora, Helius, Shadow etc) if we can't get any better ideas, so we may as well get some better ideas. I'd suggest one of Dragon, Zanic or #85.

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hezekiah

Eagle, as the godfather, you don't want to draw much attention to yourself, cause you are the only one of us the cop can't detect as guilty.

As for the new roles, I have no idea what to tell you, i'm thinking prepare for the worst, but hope for the best.

And @Hez. Ok, I was just saying that in case thats what you meant though, so out of it as of late. But you target sound good to me.

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Knukles2000

Count Dooku, are you going to investigate anyone?

May 3, 2012
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Yeano

Yes, a few posts back I said I'd be investigating Helius :P

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Count Dooku

Wouldn't some of the new roles be cheating? I mean you can go into the thread and see who all of the other roles are am I right?

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Teddy-Son

Wouldn't some of the new roles be cheating? I mean you can go into the thread and see who all of the other roles are am I right?

If you're referring to me Teddy, I can't view any of the role threads. Presumably I state I'm investigating _______ and then we'll get '______ is a ______ (townie, cop, etc)" once the round ends.

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Count Dooku

I am referring to all the new roles that can go into rooms an see who we are. Like the duck guy who can cure us if we are insane.

Psychiatrist: Every night, the Psychiatrist can go to someone's room and check to see if they are sane or not. If they are sane, nothing happens! If they are insane, you cure their sanity!

Then there is the Sensor who can know who we are based on voting.

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Teddy-Son

Helius is a Townie.

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Yeano

So this is all just a guess like with the Ghoul?

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Teddy-Son

The lunatic became a vigilante.... Methinks our troubles are doubling... everyone be careful in the main thread, hopefully they will kill each other off, and not us...

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Knukles2000

Well no one answered my question.

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Teddy-Son

Because the rest aren't here, and idk what your talking about. Though the Ghoul is in this game too.

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Knukles2000

So who should I vote against?

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Teddy-Son

Don't vote yet, Teddy. I wouldn't even talk yet till we figure something out tbh. This game require utmost caution. Though if you really want to jump in there, I'd say use a Not voting for now.

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Knukles2000

Random voting may be fine as well though. As I did. It seems to make us blend if we go with Random at this point.

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Knukles2000

Going to allow some space between our posts before I random vote.

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Count Dooku

Good call.

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Knukles2000

Also, what do you make of Shadowwalked claiming to be the psychologist? Would it be possible that he's actually a more important role, and just hoping that the actual psychologist won't speak up? I'd hate to waste on investigation on it though.

If not, I'll defer to your earlier suggestion and investigate MM.

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Count Dooku

Too late I already made a post asking a question.

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Teddy-Son

Hm........ I think we'll kill majora, and investigate Shadowwalked... that is a very odd move...

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Knukles2000

Unless of course Shadowwalked is killed. Then I think we should kill Majora, and investigate Xhin.

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Knukles2000

Well I guess my questions wont be answered. More reason to just follow what you guess tell me to do.

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Teddy-Son

We need to silence Shadowwalked imo... He's shaping up to be the Llight of this.

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Knukles2000

And that's just what we need another Llight yeah zip his lip.

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Teddy-Son

Shut him up good and quick

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Count Dooku

So just to be clear this is what I think we should do atm for night 1:

Kill majora

Silence Shadowwalked

investigate Xhin

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Knukles2000

Sounds good to me.

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Count Dooku

Slice the Mask in half-

Sew Shadow's mouth shut-

Torture Xhin till he gives an answer-

Bottom line, I agree was well.

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Teddy-Son

The Sensor does scare me, but hopefully he will be taken care of in due time...

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Knukles2000

That was one of my questions what can the sensor do? If I am correct he can come here and find out what we vote for and know that we are the mafia.

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Teddy-Son

@Eagle/Kyon. The Sensor can't detect you as guilty when you vote. Maybe we can use this to our advantage.

@Teddy. He tells how many guilty voting for a certain person. =_=

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Knukles2000

@Teddy. He tells how many guilty voting for a certain person. =_=

And that hopes the town how?

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Teddy-Son

It tells them how many mafia voted for a person, and thus they can guess who is mafia out of those people. If you don't get that, i'm sorry but your prolly screwed.

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Knukles2000

We seem to have this terrible habit of posting right next to each other in the main thread :P

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Count Dooku

FWIW, I believe Shadow when he says he's the Psychiatrist. I don't think we should target him with anything tonight; he might drop some hints about the vigilante's identity.

I do agree with killing Majora tonight (as of now). The silence and investigation targets are still up in the air.

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hezekiah

Indeed...

If he does, the ghoul may make another Vig though.

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Knukles2000

Btw, Dooku. Not voting means your.... not voting. No kill means your not killing anyone. I assume that if we go not voting, the sensor can't nail us. So if you want to switch from No kill to Not voting, you can but you prolly should do it carefully.

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Knukles2000

It tells them how many mafia voted for a person, and thus they can guess who is mafia out of those people. If you don't get that, i'm sorry but your prolly screwed.

Thanks for giving me some info. The sensor could screw us over real bad then. Shit this is bad!

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Teddy-Son

I'd say stay at No Kill for now; it's an awfully subtle difference, and won't make a difference right now.

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hezekiah

Ya, I just now read that if No kill wins, the results won't be posted, so that works well for us,I guess.

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Knukles2000

Btw, Dooku. Not voting means your.... not voting. No kill means your not killing anyone. I assume that if we go not voting, the sensor can't nail us. So if you want to switch from No kill to Not voting, you can but you prolly should do it carefully.

According to the Sensor's role:

If No Kill wins, no results will be posted.

We should be safe either way.

Edit:

Also, I have to wait until the next round (night round) to investigate someone, right? I basically have no real role during daylight.

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Count Dooku

Right. All we do in the day round is lynch someone in the main thread. No silencing or investigating right now.

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hezekiah

Ya, we can only do our actions and use our mafia kill during the night. The mafia is sneaky like that.

May 4, 2012
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Knukles2000

Just one thing. I made mistakes a couple of times last two games. So if you think I should do or not do something then please tell me okay?

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Teddy-Son

Sneaky mafia, gotcha.

If you're ever unsure Teddy, just ask us. Otherwise, just act the same as you have in previous mafia games.

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Count Dooku

Okay gotcha :)

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Teddy-Son

Xhin is oddly silent. I think he may be a role of importance. He was here a while, but didn't talk. Often he does that when he has an important role. Like when he was the Cult. Personally though I have my bets on Ghoul.

Also, Shadowwalked tends to only talk when he has a special role, so I believe him he is the psychiatrist. Though his plan is pretty stupid imo.

May 4, 2012
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Knukles2000

Xhin and Majora are both people I suspect have a role of importance.

Even if Majora doesn't have one, we can only gain by killing him.

May 4, 2012
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Kyon

Why would Xhin be the Ghoul what makes you think that Knuckles?

May 4, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Really not liking the sound of this sensor. We're going to have to be careful and keep track of who has voted for what unless we can eliminate them.

May 4, 2012
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Count Dooku

Xhin tends to not talk till much later when he has an important role, thats all.

We should be safe this round though since it seems No kill will win.

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Knukles2000

The sensor could screw us over must find out who he is.

May 5, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Working on it. Thats where Dooku comes in. His role will help us find out much quicker.

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Knukles2000

However, we MAY want to keep a majority on the no kill until he is dead... that way he can't share what he knows for sure unless he is allowed to just say it in the forum.

IDK, it just said results will not be posted.

May 5, 2012
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Knukles2000

Well I am keeping on no kill for now.

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Teddy-Son

IDK, it just said results will not be posted.

However, we should also be sure to split our vote. If someone is to be lynched, at least half of us should join the town's vote. Otherwise they'll severely narrow down who the mafia members are in a single turn.

May 5, 2012
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Count Dooku

You may now vote to kill.

Also, silencer and investigator can choose their targets.

May 6, 2012
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Yeano

Suppose I'll vote to kill MajorasMask9.

I will investigate Xhin.

May 6, 2012
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Count Dooku

can't we all kill different people? In the end of the last game each mafia killed a different person.

May 6, 2012
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Teddy-Son

No, that was end game story once the mafia had already won.

May 6, 2012
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Yeano

Ohh Well then I vote for MM9 to be eaten by the moon. In other words killed.

May 6, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Yes, make the moon eat Majora!

Seems like Poptart is another vanilla townie, so we should leave him be for now.

Here's the current townie list:
Shadowwalked - Psychiatrist?
CtR Black
Redack
#85
MajorasMask9 - dead
Helius - townie
`Roxas`
Zanic
Xhin - pending
poptart!
Bubba
white lancer
DragonintheShadow
chiefsonny

Having talked about it with Teddy over AIM, I'm going to silence CtR Black.

May 6, 2012
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hezekiah

Kill Majora.

May 6, 2012
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Knukles2000

What's our plan for the next day round going to be? Definitely we should have Kyon pretend to be silenced if it turns out that the Vig hits CtR. Odds are against that happening, but keep it in mind.

Regardless of the result of the Investigation, don't push any harder than normal for a lynch. Even if we lose one of our roles, the Ghoul could decide to take it over.

May 6, 2012
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hezekiah

I've been playing the "HEY IM NEW HERE I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IM DOING" card. So far, so good.

May 6, 2012
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Kyon

Agreed. And ya, the Ghoul could be a powerful ally. Especially if he takes a power role. Two silencers, two godfathers, or two investigators.

Hey Kyon/Eagle, we're waiting on your vote.

May 6, 2012
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Knukles2000

Well, i'm assuming he's not gonna vote since he was here earlier, not like we have a tie anyway.

May 6, 2012
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Knukles2000

Xhin was the Insane Cop.

May 6, 2012
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Yeano

Well, seems my hunch didn't fail me this time. I did think they were special roles, I just got the specific role wrong. Too bad we wasted an investigate on Xhin, but at least he's gone.

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Knukles2000

Remaining roles: Vigilante, Sensor, Doctor, Psychiatrist, Arsonist, Double-Voter, Townie (x6)

Shadowwalked - Psychiatrist?
CtR Black
Redack
#85
MajorasMask9 - dead Ghoul
Helius - townie
`Roxas`
Zanic
Xhin - dead Cop
poptart!
Bubba
white lancer
DragonintheShadow
chiefsonny

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hezekiah

Alright, that's great. Cop and Ghoul out of the running. Once we track down the sensor and vigilante we've got this in the bag.

May 6, 2012
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Count Dooku

How strange. I had a hunch about Count Dooku.

May 6, 2012
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Xhin
Sky's the limit

It was fortunate we didn't have to spend a turn killing you ourselves :)

May 6, 2012
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Count Dooku

hi Xhin.

May 6, 2012
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Kyon

What the hell now Xhin knows who we are and can tell everyone is this cheating?

May 6, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Aren't dead people allowed to lurk, though?

May 6, 2012
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Kyon

I wasn't

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Teddy-Son

Dead people can't lurk to my knowledge.

Teddy, do not change your random vote off of me. That would look suspicious.

May 6, 2012
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Count Dooku

I would also like to suggest we take out/investigate/or silence White Lancer. He seems to be doing a good amount of strategy for the townies.

May 6, 2012
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Count Dooku

Sounds good to me.

May 6, 2012
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Teddy-Son

I was either going to say WL or Chief, so yeah, go with WL.

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Kyon

Some of you may consider changing your vote (maybe Teddy and Knuckles, since your vote was random) to CTR. He's only three away from lynching.

Otherwise, if they listen to lancer, the town will drag this out for 72 hours and change most of their votes from CTR to try and give the sensor a chance to sniff us out.

Just a thought. It might look suspicious if three of you suddenly change your vote to CTR and end the round though.

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Count Dooku

So should I vote against CtR or not?

May 7, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Wait for Knuckles, Hezekia, and Kyon to weigh in...

May 7, 2012
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Count Dooku

It would look better if the voting was spread out.

So one person can vote, wait for a few replies, then the next person can vote.

May 7, 2012
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Kyon

Damn, we missed our chance. They're jumping ship on CTR. They'll probably lynch him, but not with a huge majority we can hide in.

May 7, 2012
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Count Dooku

Two things:

1) It's on the Sensor to reveal the results of the votes, it's not posted by Yeano in the main thread. So if we can figure out who it is, great; gives us a Silence round to freely claim Sensor ourselves.

2) We'll want as close a ratio of mafia to townies voting as not voting. Probably two (maybe 3) of us should vote for him, which is satisfied right now by me and Count Dooku. Dooku, I'd recommend you stay quiet for now: it may be "proper" from the town's perspective for you to change off of him, but not participating in the discussion would give you a plausible reason not to.

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hezekiah

Well we are still waiting for Knuckles to see if we should vote against him.

May 7, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Teddy, that was a bad you just made. Once it turns out CtR is innocent, you'll seem suspicious for being so sure about him faking it.

And why exactly do we need to wait for Knukles?

May 7, 2012
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hezekiah

Yeeeeah, Roxas already caught on.

May 7, 2012
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Kyon

Wait for Knuckles, Hezekia, and Kyon to weigh in...

As Dooku said and that was a joke what I said.

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Teddy-Son

Ya, we need to spread out our votes. We're in deep water as it is mostly cause of Xhin and Roxas. So vote for whoever.

Also, I think we should kill White Lancer, silence Poptart, and investigate whoever Dooku sees fit.

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Knukles2000

Anyway, I may die by the Vig or arsonist tonight. I blame Xhin. Maybe when i'm the Vig i'll kill him for spouting this shit everywhere, and making people think i'm Mafia. Lol.

But ya, it was fun working with you guys if thats the case.

May 7, 2012
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Knukles2000

I might be dead too. Anyway, I guess voting for CtR is fine then?

Ha, I voted random and almost every time it gets one of us.

May 7, 2012
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Teddy-Son

ya, your acting pretty suspicious. But no, don't vote for him. Hez's vote is good enough. You might as well keep it where it is. No way are they going to be swayed from CtR. His death is inevitable.

May 7, 2012
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Knukles2000

Don't change your vote there, Teddy. Would be far too suspicious. More coming, just want to say that ASAP.

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hezekiah

Well, I'm just hoping I wasn't too eager to throw Bubba under the bus there.

I think we'll probably continue with the Silence-Kill combo until we get something better worked out, for example a useful role reveal. That'd mean we'll whack Shadow tonight. Investigation and Silence targets? Who knows...

We should look into what Xhin said while still alive, see if he tipped his hand concerning who he investigated:
1336159296 mentions Shadow (due to Psych reveal) and CtR (reason confuses me)
1336201510 puts in a vote for lancer
So that's 3 names. Not a whole lot of intel for the town to use, if any of them even think to look at it. Could've been a lot worse.

May 7, 2012
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hezekiah

I'm sry guys, i'm normally very active in this game, but i'm having a very hard time in general lately.

But if we go after the people who voted CtR, it might help us.

But ya, killing shadow sounds good.

May 7, 2012
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Knukles2000

Okay I wont change my vote again. I thought by acting silly no one would pay attention to me.

May 7, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Goddammit, never change your vote again.

May 7, 2012
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Kyon

I said I wont.

May 7, 2012
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Teddy-Son

JUST MAKING SURE YOU UNDERSTAND, GODDAMMIT.

May 7, 2012
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Kyon

SHIT

May 7, 2012
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Count Dooku

I UNDERSTAND EAGLE NO NEED TO YELL. I WONT DO IT AGAIN....

May 7, 2012
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Teddy-Son

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

May 7, 2012
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hezekiah

I hope we don't kill our own people over this.

May 7, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Teddy, I'm just saying this so you understand why this is such a bad situation (I assume you do, but it needs reiteration).

Roxas just observed that you changed three of your random rolls. Specifically, from Count Dooku, Kyon, and white lancer, to hezekiah.

Roxas then goes on to say that he/she(?) believes Teddy, Knux, Kyon, Dooku and white lancer are all Mafia. That is fucking insanely accurate. Once we kill lancer, that narrows it down to us if Roxas pursues this idea.

IF we kill/silence Roxas, that'll be a confirmation essentially. We have to hope he just comes up with a different theory. But god help us if the vigilante kills one of us on that list. It'll make it seem right, and since it is, that's bad news bears for us.

The only good news is, since you kept your last random roll on hezekiah, he might seem not guilty.

I understand that you were joking, but you have to understand this isn't a game where joking works. Joking gets people killed in this case. That's great if the dead aren't mafia, but terrible if a joke implicates every one of us at once.

Still, hopefully it won't be a big deal. Just leave it at 'i was joking'. Don't say anything more to Roxas about it.

Finally,

Should I go call Teddy an idiot and seem genuinely pissed off in the main thread at being implicated by his jokes? Or would that just make me seem overly defensive and thereby guilty? Up to you guys.

May 7, 2012
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Count Dooku

Just leave it alone, acknowledging it would just dig a deeper hole.

May 7, 2012
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Kyon

Looks like Redack is sniffing out Knuckles, be careful bro.

May 7, 2012
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Kyon

Count, I wish you hadn't brought up their scenarios for Sensor use; we should try to make them come up with as much of their strategy as we can get away with.

May 8, 2012
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hezekiah

Forgive me, but I felt the need to reassert myself as town-aligned. If we're lucky, since only myself and lancer have suggested it, I'll be passed off as town-aligned and they'll continue to lynch their own people.

Furthermore, here's the beauty of the situation:

IF the sensor says anything... we don't try to kill him. We silence him. Every night. He'll become useless. I can eventually find the doctor/vigilante/etc and kill them off, and then we can kill the sensor too.

We have the upper hand here. We'll tie up the doctor and sensor in one fell swoop.

May 8, 2012
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Count Dooku

We can't silence the same person 2 days in a row.

May 8, 2012
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hezekiah

If we can't silence the same person each day, then at the very least we'll disrupt the sensor every other day, allowing us to confuse them while we puzzle out who the doctor is.

Edit: Wow, shows how much attention I pay. Okay, we can only silence the same person every other day.

May 8, 2012
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Count Dooku

And I have decided that if my jokes to keep the peace and turn people away from people made us suspicious then I am fine for being killed off just to help out the team. I made a mistake and now I should pay for it. If it comes to that.

The post I made recently in the main thread was true and yet I am not upset it was made to throw people off if you guys are wondering. I guess I could have made it look happier but the sad part was to make people think I was upset.

May 8, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Welp, they finally caught on to act.

Anybody have any ideas about how I should go about this?

I was going to post replies such as:

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This is an odd week for me, college finals and shit. Not using it as an excuse, though.


Monitoring main thread =/= actually being part of the game.
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I obviously didn't, I'm walking on thin ice right now, maybe even thinner than Teddy's. Just thought I should let you know that I almost screwed up.

May 8, 2012
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Kyon

The post I made recently in the main thread was true and yet I am not upset it was made to throw people off if you guys are wondering. I guess I could have made it look happier but the sad part was to make people think I was upset.

It was a good post. I know anyone from JS will buy it, and Redack already vouched for you earlier.

I obviously didn't, I'm walking on thin ice right now, maybe even thinner than Teddy's. Just thought I should let you know that I almost screwed up.

I too was eager to sign up, and I had monitored the last game, but I still don't grasp all the rules (hence why I said we could constantly silence the sensor). Its a pretty weak argument for someone being mafia.

I'd say either ignore it, and hopefully they drop the idea once someone dies again

I get the feeling trying to explain your way out of it will just make them more suspicious...

May 8, 2012
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Count Dooku

Yeah, I'm just going to ignore it. At this point I have 3 people suspicious against me, I'm going down soon.

May 8, 2012
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Kyon

Yeah, I'm just going to ignore it. At this point I have 3 people suspicious against me, I'm going down soon.

Well, I doubt they'll lynch you this round over CTR. They're pretty convinced he's guilty without our intervention.

May 8, 2012
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Count Dooku

Oh, yeah. I'm probably down next round. Everybody is either suspicious of Knuckles, me, or Teddy. All three are mafia....{:(}

May 8, 2012
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Kyon

I'm still not entirely sure about Shadowwalked being the Psych... I guess mainly I don't want to find out at the end that we fell for some ploy the whole time.

But I can't really justify spending a night investigating what really might be accurate information...

May 8, 2012
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Count Dooku

Roxas then goes on to say that he/she(?) believes Teddy, Knux, Kyon, Dooku and white lancer are all Mafia. That is fucking insanely accurate. Once we kill lancer, that narrows it down to us if Roxas pursues this idea.

Tbh, Roxas had a way of knowing that just recently crossed my ears... it's so accurate because someone told him. I'm not going to point fingers though, so.

Anyway, I am so sick of this happening... it seems like everytime i'm Mafia, something ALWAYS goes horribly wrong in every way possible. We still have a chance though... We just got to hold it together, and point the town against townie sided people who were suspicious in the first place. maybe White Lancer? Either way, we seriously gotta do something...

The vig and arsonist should be our prime targets now... keep it just between us and the town so they can't slaughter us. Though we will prolly die to the vig and arsonist today.... ~facepalm~ why do these things always happen when i'm mafia?

May 8, 2012
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Knukles2000

You guys follow my lead though if you do anything. I'm implying I am the sensor in the main thread. I plan to lead the town off of us.

Also, if I die too early, this plan will pretty much be ruined. So if you guys agree with my plan, imo you should do everything to throw the vig, arsonist, and town off my back.

I'm doing this mostly as a sacrificial lamb (because, yes I know I will die at SOME point) to ultimately get a win for the mafia. HOPEFULLY it won't backfire by mere chance like it tends to this time.

May 8, 2012
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Knukles2000

Since the real Sensor won't risk himself, and i'm just IMPLYING I am the sensor, he likely won't claim against it just yet either way.

May 8, 2012
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Knukles2000

Sounds fine with me. Too bad the other three aren't around I hope it doesn't piss them off. It shouldn't but well you never know.

May 8, 2012
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Teddy-Son

I think Dragontintheshadow is the sensor... not entirely sure, but I did suspect him beforehand. Hez, if you want to take the chance, and silence him next round to buy me more time, you can.

It's based on his post:

Slight problem with relying on the sensor. If the sensor comes out we'll need to use the doctor to protect him or her. That would be fine if we just had the mafia to deal with, but the arsonist is still in play. If both target the sensor or the doctor at the same time or is one targets the doctor at the same time the other targets the sensor...

Yeah, I am fully aware that there is a 50-50 chance of surviving an attack by the arsonist.

That I am more sure that he is the sensor.

I may be able to weasel my way to looking like an ordinary townie, but it seems unlikely.

May 8, 2012
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Knukles2000

Also, I think we should kill Redack... not Shadow... our times too precious. if he's not the psyc, he's prolly a regular townie anyway. Idk though. Either way, the vig should be our primary target for kill, the sensor should be our primary target for silencing, the arsonist should be investigated.

May 8, 2012
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Knukles2000

I think you played that wrong with your Sensor claim, Knukles... fingering 5 townies as mafia will probably work against us.

May 8, 2012
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hezekiah

Well we don't need to decide who to target at night yet, anyway. It'd be great if we managed to knock of CtR during the day.

May 8, 2012
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hezekiah

They could take it as blind suspicions from me as a townie.

May 8, 2012
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Knukles2000

Scratch all that I said. This might be pulling attention away from me and Eagle. By putting the target on your back it makes people think you are suspicious. The only one who wants to run with my and Eagle's mistake (whatever he did) is Roxas.

Roxas is the only one who was still paying attention to me and Eagle.

If I can't find anything to say then I will say nothing and no matter what for the rest of this round, I will not change my vote.

May 8, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Strange, I wonder why #85 suspects me :/

May 8, 2012
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Count Dooku

Guys, as it stands there are 6 votes for CTR Black with 2 of us voting for him. We need to be VERY careful that it doesn't drop down even lower. Because if the sensor tells the town that 2/5 are mafia, I won't be surprised if they start randomly lynching until they get me and hezekia.

If the votes for CTR Black go down to 5, I suggest either me or hezekia switch votes. We can't let them narrow us down too much.

May 9, 2012
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Count Dooku

Yeano: would we be able to pick our Investigator target, then get your response about that person before picking our Silence and Kill targets?

May 9, 2012
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hezekiah

Doubtful... at the end of my specific role it says:

At the end of the night round, that person's role will be revealed in the mafia thread.

It only occurs once the round is over...

May 9, 2012
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Count Dooku

You may now vote.

May 9, 2012
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Yeano

Well... after this round, I assume one of us will die. Whether it be in the day, or night.

Heres my plan:

I'm pretty sure dragonintheshadow is the sensor. I doubt he would have said what he did being new and all if he wasn't the sensor himself. So we should silence him.

I'm just guessing, but I think either Redack or #85 is the vig or arsonist... so I think we should kill Redack.

Roxas i'm pretty sure is an ordinary townie, so nothing to worry about with him except for him telling people stuff.

And I think we should investigate Zanic...

So I vote to kill Redack, the rest is up to you guys.

May 9, 2012
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Knukles2000

Actually, scratch that.

I think we should just kill Dragonintheshadow, silence Roxas, and investigate Redack.

So... switching my vote to dragonintheshadow.

May 9, 2012
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Knukles2000

Okay, here's my perspective:

They've got 2 of us down as voting for Dragon. Along with 4 townies. How sure are we of Dragon being the sensor? If we felt like gambling, we could Silence+Sensor him and maybe be able to have one of us (Kyon maybe, since people are suspicious of him anyway?) claim Sensor.

It's nice that we got our silence victim lynched, I'm happy about that.

I think a reasonable approach for right now would be to Sensor Dragon (he only could know 2/6 mafia, and then we'll know if he is), silence somebody (maybe poptart since he's in active, meaning one of us could fake silence?) and kill somebody suspicious of another townie. I'll look at the thread and see who's suspicious of another townie.

May 9, 2012
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hezekiah

I think lancer is a special role. So I think a good trio to hit would be
Silence: Dragon
Kill: white lancer
Sensor: Roxas? Redack?

(these are NOT my choices, they're just meant for discussion)

May 9, 2012
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hezekiah

Ya, prolly could just silence Dragon, I suppose... but then who should we kill? Redack? #85?

May 9, 2012
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Knukles2000

Uh... kill White Lancer, and silence Dragon?

And don't bother investigating Roxas, he's just a Townie, though I prolly shouldn't say how I know. Investigate redack or poptart imo.

May 9, 2012
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Knukles2000

I say we kill lancer. I don't think Redack is anything important.

Now, its clear to the town that the person they lynched was silenced.

I say we don't use our silence this round, and someone they suspect (Kyon?) pretends to be silenced.

I'll investigate Dragon or Zanic... not sure yet.

May 9, 2012
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Count Dooku

It'd be too much of a waste if we don't silence this round imo. We need every resource possible. Plus when people are silenced, it takes away their ability to vote.

But I like this idea of Killing Lancer. He isn't one of the people who voted for CtR either, so that will buy us some time.

I still say we should silence Dragon though, and you can investigate Zanic. Imo anyway.

ya, I vote to kill Lancer...

May 9, 2012
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Knukles2000

Has the mafia ever faked a silence before? It could really work. They won't want to lynch another silenced person.

May 9, 2012
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Count Dooku

They have. I suppose it's worth a shot, but the town will just know we're faking being silenced...

May 9, 2012
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Knukles2000

It happened last game because I (the vigilante) killed the person they silenced.

May 9, 2012
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hezekiah

My official votes:
Kill: white lancer
Silence: withdrawn pending further discussion

May 9, 2012
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hezekiah

I'll fake being silenced if you guys want.

I say to kill lancer and silence DragonintheShadow(if I don't have to fake)

May 9, 2012
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Kyon

Kyon, I think it'd be best for you to fake being silenced, regardless of what else happens. Both you and Dragon have been quiet, so it's reasonable that either of you might forget to post.

May 9, 2012
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hezekiah

Well, may be I wasn't clear...

What I meant was, we don't silence anyone at all. Not even DragonintheShadow.

Then Kyon refrains from posting at all during the next day round. The town will eventually think that he's silenced (although initially I'm sure they'll vote for him) and assume he's town-sided.

Since we don't have to silence anyone, faking might be to our advantage this round to deflect suspicion.

May 9, 2012
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Count Dooku

What did DragonintheShadow say that made anyone here think we should silence him? He was saying he doesn't know what is going on.

If anyone should be killed it should be Roxas he is on to us. But I should be silenced for the mistakes I made. That way, people will not believe I am Mafia and I won't be able to talk in the main thread for a whole day. And that day I won't be able to make another mistake.

May 9, 2012
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Teddy-Son

I'm silencing Dragon because he's inactive enough that it'd be plausible that he simply didn't look at the mafia forum.

I'm hesitant to silence Roxas because he's on to us; somebody could pick up on it and then we'd have more people after us. I'll retract my silence for now.

May 9, 2012
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hezekiah

Well, I'll investigate Zanic...

I vote to kill white lancer. Preferably with a toaster into his bath water.

May 10, 2012
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Count Dooku

hezekiah, the last thing you said was that you are retracting your silence. Just for clarity's sake, am I to assume this means that you currently are not targeting anyone to be silenced?

May 10, 2012
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Yeano

I do plan to silence somebody, but don't know who yet.

May 10, 2012
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hezekiah

Yep, I completely just dragged the round on unnecessarily. Since nobody's said anything against it, I'll revert to my original choice of DragonintheShadow.

I additionally want Kyon to fake being silenced.

May 10, 2012
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hezekiah

I would hate to vote Lancer cause he is one of us JS members but he needs to be gone cause he is too smart so drag him out, have his arms and legs cut off, and then have him eaten alive by hyenas.

May 10, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Hopefully the vig and/or arsonist won't kill us. All I can say.

May 10, 2012
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Knukles2000

I would hate to vote Lancer cause he is one of us JS members but he needs to be gone cause he is too smart so drag him out, have his arms and legs cut off, and then have him eaten alive by hyenas.

Former loyalties mean nothing!

May 10, 2012
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Count Dooku

Then I will fake being silenced!

May 10, 2012
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Kyon

Guys, do you think I should fake being the sensor now, and say there are two mafia?

May 10, 2012
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Knukles2000

No, you're faking always goes against you. And how many rounds do they usually have in each game? 5 or 6? That's what I've been seeing.

May 10, 2012
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Teddy-Son

I wouldn't fake sensor... that could backfire really fast...

Kinda regret not silencing Roxas :/ Hope that doesn't catch on. We may need to join the Redack bandwagon and get him lynched.

Also Yeano, we need my investigation results?

May 10, 2012
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Count Dooku

-HOST KILL HOST KILL HOST KILL DO NOT PRETEND TO BE SILENCED!-

May 10, 2012
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Count Dooku

Yeano is here.... he needs to kill him. Also, who is Zanic?

May 10, 2012
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Knukles2000

OH GOD AHAHAHAHAHAHA

May 10, 2012
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Count Dooku

Ha. As I predicted, he was the sensor. This is our chance to mop the floor with them.

May 10, 2012
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Knukles2000

Oh sorry!

I knew I was forgetting something.

Zanic is a Townie.

May 10, 2012
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Yeano

Hell, I'm the worst mafia investigator ever...

So... what's the play? At some point we're going to start losing people... Might not be a bad idea to vote against out own to deflect suspicion.

May 10, 2012
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Count Dooku

No, Roxas's words are still taken as mere suspicion. Theres no need to vote against each other. As for what we should do in the day round. Deduce from what we know about people. kill the Vig, and silence the Doctor. And hope we're right.

May 10, 2012
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Knukles2000

The towns votes will likely be divided to a degree anyway... but if the going gets too tough, we may have to vote for one of our own. But I think it's doubtful they will all vote for the same person.

May 10, 2012
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Knukles2000

Dooku always likes to get rid of Redack.{:)}

May 10, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Personally I'm hoping to save Redack until the end, so I can suffocate him with a wire.

Zanic and Helius are just townies. So our list is:

Shadowwalked - Psychiatrist?
Redack
#85
`Roxas`
poptart!
Bubba

Personally, I believe we need to kill Roxas and silence Bubba this round. IF Shadowwalked is just pretending to be Psych, it doesn't matter at this point.

May 10, 2012
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Count Dooku

Well it'd be ideal if the real psych gets killed today or tonight, that'd be ideal... then we could very easily convince enough others that Shadow is mafia. But I still believe that he is the Psych, so meh.

May 11, 2012
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hezekiah

What if Shadow is not the Psych? Then we will be suspicious.

May 11, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Lets assume Shadowwalked is the Psych, I'm pretty sure he is at this point.

If he isn't, the town will lynch him when the real one dies.

I suggest that we try to lynch #85. He hasn't been very active this game. However, we can't all vote to lynch him (as that would further Roxas's claim that we're mafia).

May 11, 2012
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Count Dooku

Okay then are we going to kill or silence Shadow?

Lynch 85 might be good I don't like him.

May 11, 2012
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Teddy-Son

We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. For now, just keep playing your game. I like the logic Teddy put forward about Roxas (he's been so steadfast against Kyon), but we need to get townies on board with the idea too.

May 11, 2012
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hezekiah

Yeah, I just hope it sways people from Kyon. I doubt it will cause I am not very convincing but on the other hand, I hope it will cause then it might help us.

May 11, 2012
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Teddy-Son

So Bubba is suspicious of me claiming a power role, and not giving the info i promised. Advise? I'm on my wii btw, so i will be slow.

May 11, 2012
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Knukles2000

Well if it were me, I'd play the "what's the point, people wouldn't believe me anyway" card...

On a different note, I think we should target Roxas with something. Given Knukles' vagueness concerning how he knows that Roxas is a vanilla townie, it doesn't sit right with me. If it was simply a case of Roxas or another player telling you, then great. But if you got it directly off the site or something, that's not cool.

May 11, 2012
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hezekiah

Roxas told me. But I agree, we prolly should target Roxas... he constantly goes with Kyon, Surely we can use that.

May 11, 2012
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Knukles2000

I agree then, I'll change my vote to Roxas once more people vote for him.

May 11, 2012
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Count Dooku

Okay, I'm just glad that it wasn't a result of any nefariousness... What were you talking about in reply 1336455903?
In reply 1336579549, you sure acted like it was something not entirely on the up-and-up...

May 11, 2012
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hezekiah

Well I think we need to be hitting the power roles if we're able to. So don't kill Roxas at night, but I won't mind if he ends up lynched.

May 11, 2012
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hezekiah

Well, it's not something I should say. All I can say is it was a mistake, but not on my part. All I can say is, someone told him.

May 11, 2012
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Knukles2000

Lynch Roxas during the day... we can claim that the mafia killed him to make it look like he was right about his list of suspicious people.

May 11, 2012
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Count Dooku

Hm. suppose he dies. I assume the vig will kill me, or one of us. That makes this a 4 against 5 game. (since the silenced can't vote.) we'd need to sway at least one townie in that case if the vig unless the vig dosn't kill one of us.

May 11, 2012
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Knukles2000

I'm feeling pretty good about this. Them still having the doctor isn't ideal, but we've got pretty good odds at hitting a special role now.

Yeano, a question: does the mafia win with equal numbers regardless of which roles are still alive?

May 11, 2012
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hezekiah

I'm not Yeano, but ya. we do win regardless of what roles they have.

May 11, 2012
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Knukles2000

Try keeping the pressure on Roxas, guys. I understand you pretending to be suspicious of me, but don't overdo it. most would think your just saying that to not look suspicious anyway. I figure it's going to be between me and Roxas this round anyway... too much suspicion for me.

May 11, 2012
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Knukles2000

Dooku already made a post and I said a lot about Roxas. We should continue against Roxas. I will do my part.

May 11, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Roxas is going to be a problem. Damn it Teddy, why'd you have to change your vote so much :-/

I'm going to try and get suspicion off of us, but I need to stay under the radar myself; at this point in the game, I think my role as Silencer is the most important one for us.

May 11, 2012
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hezekiah

How many times do I have to say I am sorry?

May 11, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Teddy, just don't take it personally. It's a game, and they are naturally upset about how it's going.

May 11, 2012
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Knukles2000

All right, but still but I thought this suspicion of us would go away over night.

May 11, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Please don't accuse Bubba of much right now. I'm hoping that, should it end up that we lose a member today, we can tomorrow convince people that Bubba was just going along with Roxas to appear town-sided. Bubba's been playing weird so far...

May 11, 2012
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hezekiah

I was going to accuse 85 but I wont. I know if I did I would look suspicious for defending you guys. Which is ironic cause if I don't defend you guys someone will die. Hezekiah, Roxas wont let go of what I did and people are catching on. So, at the very least make sure that you are safe alight?

And Yeano, if I die today I want it to be funny.

May 11, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Knukles, if you're going to be accusing all the townies who are suspicious of you, you really gotta act suspicious of the mafia members that are "gunning for you" as well.

May 11, 2012
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hezekiah

I just realized, if Dooku, me or Knuckles or Eagle dies today then they will be sure that my changing of the vote which was a coincidence that I was having fun, would end up that Roxas was right? This is really bad! What are we gonna do?

May 11, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Ah, now you see it...

May 11, 2012
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hezekiah

I saw it before I didn't know it was going to be THIS bad!

May 11, 2012
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Teddy-Son

lol

May 11, 2012
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hezekiah

I think it's in all our best interests to sneekily pile on #85. Since I don't have a lot of time, And i prolly won't be on much, i'll just do mine now and hope i made the right choice...

May 12, 2012
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Knukles2000

It seems Bubba and Zanic are at least on my side. I would suggest hezekia vote for #85, since Roxas doesn't suspect him. Knuckles, you should keep your vote on Redack to tie him up.

Hopefully poptart or someone else will vote against #85 too, and then either Kyon or Teddy can join into that. Once we have a majority against #85, ONE of us on Roxas's list should vote against someone else on the list (Teddy voting for Kyon or something).

May 12, 2012
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Count Dooku

Sry, Should have checked here first... oh well. I'm sry I suck so much at this game guys, lifes insane lately.

May 12, 2012
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Knukles2000

So who should I vote against 85, Eagle or Roxas? Just to not make mistake I will wait here until someone tells me otherwise.

May 12, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Don't vote yet, but my personal opinion is you should vote for Kyon Teddy.

May 12, 2012
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Count Dooku

I wont vote then until it is okay to vote then.

You guys realize that I won't help you until you tell me what to do right? I am not making another mistake.

May 12, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Hezekia, I would suggest you vote for #85 along with me, poptart, and bubba. The rest of you keep your votes as they are unless you need to change to prevent me from getting killed off...

May 13, 2012
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Count Dooku

Based on what Roxas said, we now have less the an hour to vote before they don't count. Based on my opinion, I believe that me and Knuckles are useless so us dying would mean nothing.

And Eagle might not mean much but he is the Gofather so he is important.

Hezekiah and Dooku need to live so I will vote against 85. Cause hez isn't coming any time soon.

In any case I have decided that if I WERE to vote now then it would be a bad idea. I will wait till we have like maybe 3 or 5 minutes left and then swoop in and vote for 85 just for him to be lynched.

Shit, shit, shit, even if I voted against 85 now it would be useless. No one would come in and vote against him with the little time we have oh well we lose out investigator.

But despite all that, I still voted against 85. It means nothing but, now we are going to lose Dooku and only have one useful mafia member on our side. That being Hezekiah of course.

May 13, 2012
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Teddy-Son

It is now to protect Count from being killed, so if you guys want to save him, we need two more.

May 13, 2012
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Knukles2000

Damn, well I don't know what to do now. {:(}

May 13, 2012
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Teddy-Son

It's too late now, so don't do anything.

May 13, 2012
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hezekiah

All right

May 13, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Ah well, that's a shame.

Kill Redack for me, would you guys?

Best of luck, you'll need it now that Roxas's theory is back on track.

May 13, 2012
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Count Dooku

Oh and if you kill Redack, do it with poisonous spiders. Might sound funny, but he won't appreciate that at all.

May 13, 2012
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Count Dooku

We should also kill Bubba for being the last one to vote against you. And yeah, Redack, typo lord will die too {8D}

May 13, 2012
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Teddy-Son

No, I think we leave Bubba alive. Might be possible to sway the town against him, with the possible explanation of "he knew one of the voters for Count was the double-voter, so he was dead anyway". Something like that, maybe.

I'm thinking we should probably fake a silence tomorrow. As of now, I'm thinking Teddy. That would be coupled with me silencing somebody quiet, like Shadowwalked (he told me he's been busy job-hunting).

May 13, 2012
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hezekiah

After looking back through today's thread, I'm thinking it might be better for Knukles to fake the silence. But we've got time to figure that out.

As for kill, my best idea right now is #85.

May 13, 2012
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hezekiah

That could work out. I would not mind being silenced. But what are we gonna do about Roxas?

May 13, 2012
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Teddy-Son

You may now vote on whom to kill.

May 14, 2012
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Yeano

Imo, kill #85, and silence Redack. Redack never talks much anyway, and sometimes not at all. Plus theres more chance that Redack is a power role. So if i'm dead, make Kyon out to be silenced instead.

I vote to kill #85.

May 14, 2012
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Knukles2000

I vote to kill Redack with venomous spiders for Dooku's sake.

Hezekaih is the silencer so that is his choice but I think Roxas should be silenced and as we decided right here in this thread I will pretend to be silenced this round.

May 14, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Kill: #85
Silence: Shadowwalked

#85 has been fairly hard after us, so it'll be good to take him out. We might be able to get away with "if the mafia was taking out their threats, why not the ringleader, Roxas?"
Shadow has been quiet enough that an absence this round might not stand out. If Knukles or Teddy (more active players) go quiet, it should hopefully get some suspicion off of them.

May 14, 2012
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hezekiah

And this is why we need you Hezekiah, you are smart. Okay fine kill 85 slowly a slow and painful death.

And I already decided that I am going to be quiet for the entire next round anyway.

May 14, 2012
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Teddy-Son

I haven't yet decided which of you it'd be more helpful to have fake silencing... it may depend on the town's focus at the start of the round, so I'd advise you both staying quiet at the start.

May 14, 2012
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hezekiah

Okay

May 14, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Bleh.... I still say Redack since theres a higher chance he's a power role, and his abilities would be blocked, but your the silencer.

May 14, 2012
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Knukles2000

Only ability that silencing stops is the Double-Voter's...

May 14, 2012
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hezekiah

I thought the vig can't either. Or was that just for the cult and mason thing?

May 14, 2012
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Knukles2000

Sry, hez... I forgot. I posted... damn..

May 15, 2012
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Knukles2000

Hez, you might as well tag my response to him too.

May 15, 2012
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Knukles2000

Updated the OP with the round's death. We got lucky with the Doctor silencing the vigilante's target. We should look at who's targeted Bubba.

Teddy: don't forget to be silenced! Don't post in the game thread! (you can post in here, though)

May 15, 2012
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hezekiah

I am happy the way 85 died but, have a question though, well two.

1. How can you still vote against someone who is dead?

2. How can a dead persons vote be accepted? 85 voted no kill and it is accepted? WTF?

May 15, 2012
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Teddy-Son

#85 posted in the thread, and made a vote (and comments). I deleted his post, and using admin tools made a post as him to change his vote to something innoculous (Not Voting).

As for how a vote for #85 was cast, I'd suppose it was just a mistake in the RNG that decides how random votes are made. By editing the page, you can vote for ANYONE if you so choose.

And don't forget, don't post in the main thread!

May 15, 2012
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hezekiah

Okay, thanks for answering me and I won't will just watch if it is fun. Either way I will say nothing.

May 15, 2012
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Teddy-Son

To fill the others in on what's happened... Shadow told me on AIM that he's silenced. Don't know if he's told others as well.

At some point tomorrow, Teddy will "tell me" over AIM that he's silenced. The goal of this is to cast doubt on Shadow, but I honestly doubt that it'll work. In any case, it should keep me safe for a while longer yet. And we may get lucky and convince the town to lynch Shadow.

May 15, 2012
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hezekiah

I'm loling. Somehow townies are voting with, and defending me. I must of lucked out that i even still have a chance with all the mistakes i made.

Anyway, we're far from out of the woods... we still have the vig, doc, and double voter to worry about. I think Poptart is the vig based on his townie kills, and sudden aggression toward me. And it's just a hunch, but i think Bubba is the double voter. I have no idea who the doc is. Assuming Poptart is the vig though, I think theres a high chance i'll die this night.

Hez, so far no one suspects you at all. You could prolly pull a win, even if we all die.

May 15, 2012
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Knukles2000

Yeah, I'm being very careful. It'll be lonely if I end up as the only one left...

May 15, 2012
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hezekiah

I guess people are being a little nicer to you Knuckles then normal. Poptart is an asshole that's all there is. So far, Knuckles thinks Pop could be the vigilante and Hez and I think it would also be Redack. But, I'd go with poptart for now Knuckles.

But Knuckles you are lucky because most people in the game still like you or at the very least don't know about you or think any less of you. Imagine if Weid, Zed and Neil were in this game you would die first round.

Well shit, Redack is onto us. Now we are doomed if Roxas catched on, then Zanic will follow and so on :(

May 15, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Looks like they're going with the Teddy/Kyon/Knuckles/Dooku plan atm.

I blame Teddy. I also blame a little bit on myself for not being as active.

....but mostly Teddy. {<00}

May 16, 2012
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Kyon

Kyon, we could sure use your help. You could pose it as their argument is basically bowlshit, and they keep framing you as Mafia senselessly, then vote for Roxas.

May 16, 2012
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Knukles2000

Knukles, quit lumping only townies together. It'll look suspicious when you die.

May 16, 2012
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hezekiah

Eagle, I said I was sorry over nine thousand times I know the error of my ways it is too late though. Dooku is gone, Knuckles will be nest and now Redack HAD to put Hezekiah with the rest of us. I said ten million times that because of my mistake I am willing to die for the team now get off my back or I will get on your Eagle {troll}

Might as well pull out the white flag and call it quits. Kyon is barley around, Knuckles is perma/globally banned for a long time, I am pretending to be silent for the whole round. So, there is no one to help you Hezekiah :(

May 16, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Yep, so Knukles is officially globally banned.

I have state my opinion on this. If someone is globally banned, they are not allowed to participate for the rest of the game, serving merely as a dummy.

That means that Knukles will still be a Mafia Member, but he is not allowed to post or participate for the rest of the game.

May 16, 2012
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Yeano

I know but that means it is like using a puppet to help you out.

May 16, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Well I guess this might work in our favor? Even if they end up hitting Kyon and Teddy based on the series of rolls the latter did, it'd get them to the point of needing to make random guesses faster. I may be wrong, but there's a significant human element regardless.

May 16, 2012
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hezekiah

I sure hope you are right I am counting on you Hezekiah.

May 16, 2012
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Teddy-Son

I dunno if it actually will, but we'll see as the game proceeds.

May 16, 2012
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hezekiah

Yup we will.

May 16, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Great... one half-asleep post now has both Redack and Roxas thinking I'm the last mafia.

May 16, 2012
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hezekiah

You may now vote on whom to kill.

May 16, 2012
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Yeano

Why'd the round end? There were only 6 votes for Knukles...

As of now, I'm thinking we should kill Redack. For silencing, what about Roxas while having me fake a silence?

May 16, 2012
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hezekiah

You know that might help us. Roxas silenced, you faking it, me saying I was silenced last round, we kill Shadow so that he can't counter/claim that he was silenced. But that would still leave Redack against us.

But if Redack dies they would know we were mafia.

So I'd vote for Shadowalked to be killed.

May 16, 2012
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Teddy-Son

It sure looks like Bubba is the Doctor. He's said numerous things to make me think so... "Cop should reveal, doctor can protect him", "Did Dragon give away being the Sensor and the mafia pick up on it?", etc.

Another idea, brought up in an IM conversation with Teddy: kill Shadow, so he can't dispute Teddy being silenced. If we go that route (well, regardless), we'll need Teddy to be very relieved that he can post again.

May 16, 2012
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hezekiah

Alright. I just talked to Shadowwalked (the presumed Psychiatrist) on AIM for a bit. He's picked up on Knukles STUPIDLY only theorizing that townies are mafia (Redack, Roxas, Bubba, poptart), and I haven't managed to sway his opinion enough that he could be an asset.

As such, I will be voting to kill Shadowwalked, but not yet. Want to let this night have a chance to breathe before we make our final decisions. This also means, Kyon, that you should not cast an official vote. Feel free to say who you want to vote for, but don't cast the vote.

May 16, 2012
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hezekiah

I just realized that most of these people. With Shadow dead, Roxas not talking, Kyon not on, poptart not talking till the last moment, and Hez faking silence that will leave with people who easily jump on the bandwagon. Bubba and Redack being the only exception because they can make a somewhat decent debate.

But I can do nothing good for us. So I am gonna need you Hezekiah to help me out whenever you can maybe tell me what to say.

May 16, 2012
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Teddy-Son

I'll do what I can to help, but I know tomorrow's gonna be a busy day for me. It helps that Bubba's been off in his own world so far.

Also, I haven't yet decided if I'll be faking the silence. Or who I'm voting for, in fact :-P

May 16, 2012
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hezekiah

Okay. And as I played with you I found out that you are a nice guy :)

May 16, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Okay, so Yeano clarified that 7 votes were made for Knukles. That means the Double-Voter was one of those who voted. The 6 voters were Redack, hezekiah, Helius, Roxas, poptart and Zanic.
Redack - ?
hezekiah - mafia
Helius - townie
'Roxas' - alleged townie
poptart - ?
Zanic - townie

That means either poptart or Redack (maybe Roxas) is the Double-Voter. I'd say stick with what we have planned (killing Shadow, silencing Roxas), but there's a pretty good chance I'll end up posting during the round at some point.

I'm hoping Kyon gets his internet issues worked out so he can help... would suck to have him as the last one alive.

May 16, 2012
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hezekiah

Alright, time to make it official.

Kill: Shadowwalked
Silence: Roxas

May 17, 2012
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hezekiah

Kill: Shadowwalked

May 17, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Scratch all that but we are still screwed one way or another.

May 17, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Teddy, you may now select a person to kill.

May 18, 2012
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Yeano

Well, Teddy, you did somthing right. Win or lose, you survived longer then any other Mafia. You deserve props for that if nothing else.

May 18, 2012
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Feral

How are you able to come in here Feral?

Never the less thanks man, I guess I HAVE been learning a little more about people, how they act, trying to see just a little past their lies. Ironically we are the ones lying. {troll}

Still I guess I am slowly finding that I can MAYBE sway people away if not take attention away from me the very least.

May 18, 2012
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Teddy-Son

I am a host this game. I have the ability post anywhere. I have been following this thread since night 0.

Tenichally, I am not suppose outside the dead thread, but Ii made an acception this once, since there is little use for this thread outside your votes.

May 18, 2012
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Feral

Yeah I found that out. I am still thinking on who I should kill. But I got plenty of time.

Hey I just realized I get to say something now.

THIS IS MAFIA!

May 18, 2012
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Teddy-Son

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