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game 5 thread 5 night 5 it looks grim mafia

Posted May 17, 2012 by Yeano

Continued from [p:65455].

Day 5.

Found on the street were a bunch of records. Turns out, they were mental health records. But how did they get on the street? Ah, the sad truth is revealed by a surveillance video from a nearby building. As Shadowwalked was walking down the road to visit a patient at night, a vehicle drove by and gunned him down. His briefcase with his mental health records fell to the ground and spilled its contents. His body was stuffed into the car, and no one knows where it is now! As it turns out though, the records indicate that Shadowwalked was the Psychiatrist.

Additionally, the mafia did not have a happy night either. The body of the Silencer was found hanging from a cord in his room. A note was attached to it, which reads, "This was not a suicide." Ah, what a tragedy for the mafia, since hezekiah's body hung on that cord.

1. Shadowwalked - Psychiatrist
2. CtR Black - Townie
3. Teddy-Son
4. Redack
5. #85 - Townie
6. Count Dooku - Mafia Investigator
7. MajorasMask9 - Ghoul
8. hezekiah - Silencer
9. Helius
10. Eagle0
11. `Roxas`
12. Zanic
13. Xhin - Insane Cop
14. poptart!
15. Knukles2000 - Mafioso
16. Bubba
17. white lancer - Townie
18. DragonintheShadow - Sensor
19. chiefsonny - Arsonist

Godfather, Mafia Investigator, Silencer, Mafioso, Lunatic Vigilante, Sensor, Cop, Doctor, Psychiatrist, Arsonist, Double-voter, Ghoul, Townie.

Mafia-Town Ratio: 2-6

72 hours or 5 votes.

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Ehh, one less mafia down. Now we can finish this game up once and for all.

May 17, 2012
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Zanic

Wow, that was a brilliant night for the town!

Well teddy was the only one left on my "I'm sure of it" list and I think one or two others kinda agreed he probably is? If we can agree on a second target we could hope we're right and get then vig to kill the final mafia.

I won't jump to voting just yet, like always, to hear what everyone else has to say first. In case I overlooked anything. Not really sure on who is mafia after Teddy though.

May 17, 2012
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Redack

I'm still betting that Kyon and Teddy are the last two Mafia. If we go after Kyon, then we win with Teddy killed at night. If we go after Teddy, then we win with Kyon being killed at night. No matter what, we win at this point. Even if I'm wrong about one of them, that would put our odds at 5:1 going into the next day. That means we can afford TWO mess ups before the last remaining Mafia member would win (see white lancer's RE:Game Two win).


Still shocked that the Double Voter, Doctor and Vigilante are still active. Is this shocking to anybody else?

May 17, 2012
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`Roxas`

Awesome! I was going to throw my support to have Hezekiah lynched today. Thanks vig!

Was going to suggest that the vig and Doctor come clean today, but with a mafia member dying last night, I think we can easily finish the game just by lynching. The doctor clearly has no idea who the vig is, since I was saved two nights ago. (Not the vig)

May 17, 2012
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Bubba

I am vanilla, so no special abilities here.

May 17, 2012
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`Roxas`

Well Roxas, my two theories on the last one was either Pop or Kyon... As I'm still sure it's someone that's barely playing. So I'll go with whoever everyone else thinks on that final one but I definitely think Teddy is mafia... So I guess:

May 17, 2012
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Redack

Damn that was boring, watching the whole thing last round and not being able to enter. It seemed interesting and yet I was silenced. Whatever, I can talk now so I can vote again. :)

Because Roxas sticks to what he believed in the entire game and would not let go would make me think that he was Mafia. But I have a feeling that he is sided with the town just some feeling I have. I would go with Kyon but that would not be fair cause he is having problems. Bubba seems sly as a cat. There is something fishy about Redack though, something I can not put my hand on?

Am I the only one who thinks Redack is fishy?

May 17, 2012
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Teddy-Son

And yea, I'm also surprised we've managed to keep three special roles around till the end.

May 17, 2012
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Redack

Like I keep saying, I'm more like a rat or a scorpion than a fish...

May 17, 2012
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Redack

Its a good thing you're funny Red. :)

Anyway I stand but my claim that Redack seems like a rat I can't figure out what it is but there is something about him in this game that is different. I am going to have dinner now so just uhh just keep me posted.

May 17, 2012
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Teddy-Son

I'm suspicious of Teddy. The doctor needs to come out so we have more to go on; we might be able to take out the last 2 tonight.

May 17, 2012
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poptart!
 

Well if we lynch Teddy and the vig kills Kyon in the night round? As Roxas pointed out, we're in a safe position this round thanks to the vig killing Hezekiah so we could afford a mistake on Kyon and since he's not really around due to his PC issues I can't see him being the vig or doctor so it wouldn't be a massive loss if he turned out to be townie.

May 17, 2012
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Redack

I want to go with a for sure mafia kill as Teddy brought up being silenced last round. Sure, he could have been faking it, but I want a definite kill.

May 17, 2012
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Zanic

I will go with who my original votes have almsot always gone for.

At this point, regardless of what happens, it seems safe for the special roles to reveal themselves. Just my opinion.

May 18, 2012
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`Roxas`

Sorry Roxas, but I'm still not sold on your innocence.

I would like to lynch you, but I seriously doubt it would fly here. Right now it seems like you have everyone fine with the idea of having both Kyon and Teddy killed by the noose and vigilante, regardless if the hanged man is innocent tonight.

If we go after Teddy, then we win with Kyon being killed at night. No matter what, we win at this point. Even if I'm wrong about one of them, that would put our odds at 5:1 going into the next day. That means we can afford TWO mess ups before the last remaining Mafia member would win (see white lancer's RE:Game Two win).

That post of your is really bothering me. You saying we can afford two mess ups is too much of a stretch. Teddy and Kyon both being killed would mean the mafia could with a right guess, make it only 3-2 in favor of the town.

I propose;

Lynch Roxas. IF found innocent, vigilante would kill Kyon. (Kyon rather than Teddy just because it would be Roxas's wish)

or

Lynch Teddy (Or Kyon, but Teddy seems more likely to me. Either way, doesn't matter to me). If the man we lynch is innocent, the vigilante would kill Roxas.

We would need the vig to get on board with this though.

I just don't want to see one player decide what two players we kill off. Roxas is gaining too much sway.

Vote is cast for Roxas for now, but lets please discuss this.

Bubba voted for 'Roxas'

edit: what is the syntax for cyan? I don't want to bother looking around in the source code.

May 18, 2012
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Bubba

It's !cyan.

May 18, 2012
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Xhin
Sky's the limit

You can also click the little shield with a question mark in it to get syntax help.

May 18, 2012
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Xhin
Sky's the limit

I don't see much logic in thinking Roxas as mafia at this point. Two turns ago, I would've agreed, but now I don't.

May 18, 2012
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Zanic

I agree with you Zanic. Right now I am drawn between: Bubba, and Redack. I voted at Redack earlier but I am not sure if that was the right choice. I mean Bubba seemed way too calm yes you would think "oh this person is calm can't be mafia!" But that throws us off.

Redack seems different then usually I can't figure out what it is but that is why I voted for seem he just did fit in as normal.

For I while I assumed Roxas was Mafia with the others but IDK my gut is saying NO!

I guess that's all I can go on what my gut says.

May 18, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Same thing as I said in the last day round:

How would it benefit me if I was Mafia and killed (now) TWO of my teammates in the day, when they relatively had no heat on themselves?

As far as that specific post, that is assuming I am wrong about either of them being Mafia and that the Mafia does not strike in the night.

I'm two for three of my original predictions were right. The one that was wrong (white lancer) was either killed by the Mafia. I can understand two day rounds ago or even the last day round, but really three days in a row? I'm not saying that the Vigilante HAS to go through and kill whoever we don't kill, I'm merely suggesting that he do so.

May 18, 2012
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`Roxas`

Kyon: 2 (Zanic and `Roxas`)
Redack: 1 (Teddy-Son)
`Roxas`: 1 (Bubba)
Teddy-Son: 1 (Redack)


Also, I don't really see a difference, other than Kyon having no control over his situation, between Kyon and Knux in the game right now.

May 18, 2012
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`Roxas`

How would it benefit me if I was Mafia and killed (now) TWO of my teammates in the day, when they relatively had no heat on themselves?

To clear your name. You've been involved in too many mafia kills, you're name should be cleared even if Jesus himself descended down and told us to lynch you. If you were mafia, you could coast through easily to the end killing away and never have to be worried about being lynched, because you're well, too perfect.


Please vigilante, if Kyon is innocent, kill Roxas.

May 18, 2012
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Bubba

That I'm fine with.

Still doesn't make much sense to me that if I were Mafia, why would I sell out two of my own guys when we would have been able to potentially win the game with a sweep on Night Three? I'd be more for a sweep than to take out the town flying solo.

May 18, 2012
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`Roxas`

Yeah. I don't think it'd be smart of a mafia at all to wipe out two of his teammates just to cover up. That would be a stupid move. They could have had a perfect game and Count Dooku had one more vote than the other person. Had Roxas not voted Dooku, he would not have been lynched.

May 18, 2012
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Zanic

Also keep in mind that it IS possible that the Mafia took out hezekiah. If I was Mafia, why would I be willing to take out three of my own?

May 18, 2012
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`Roxas`

Also keep in mind that it IS possible that the Mafia took out hezekiah. If I was Mafia, why would I be willing to take out three of my own?

The perfect cover.

May 18, 2012
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Bubba

I'm going with...

You can argue about Roxas all you want at the moment, but we need to take someone out. It's either Kyon or Teddy. I think we have a better chance with Teddy.

May 18, 2012
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Helius

Why would the mafia take out one of their own during a night round? During the day it serves the purpose is helping them argue that "actually I voted that mafia guy out" but the night round you don't see who did what so it'd serve no point other than to help your own team to lose...

Or did a joke just go over my head?

May 18, 2012
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Redack

But what logical sense does that make, being so close to a clean sweep of the town?

I have agreed that should I be wrong about Kyon being Mafia, that I am more than happy to be killed off by the Vig in the night.

May 18, 2012
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`Roxas`

Because a divided vote risks us lynching no one I'm going to swap to Kyon and hope the Vig kills Teddy over night.

May 18, 2012
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Redack

And for the reasoning of Redack...

May 18, 2012
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Helius

I was pointing out that there is the possibility of that happening, Redack. If I was Mafia, there would be absolutely no reason for me to identify three and assist in potentially taking all three out of the equation. That's the point I'm trying to make, is that if I am Mafia, killing off two or all three of my teammates makes zero sense.

And Redack, I have something to state and ask you. Last round, you were the first to state an initial suspicion of hezekiah, who is then taken out in the Night. Are you the Vigilante, or was this just a coincidence?

May 18, 2012
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`Roxas`

Dammit, town.

Can we negotiate and have Teddy killed instead of Kyon? If Teddy is mafia, Vig has full support to kill Kyon. I wouldn't be surprised if Roxas willingly killed a mafia Kyon.

May 18, 2012
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Bubba

No, I'm the double voter if you're interested though :) hence why last round ended with less voted than it appeared to need I think.

May 18, 2012
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Redack

Here's my proposal Bubba. Town lynches Kyon in the day round. Vig kills Teddy in the night round.

That way if we're wrong on Kyon then we're collectively wrong whilst the vig can kill someone that most of us are confident is Mafia. I suspect Kyon before Roxas stated his suspcions so I'm not being manipulated by a potential mafia, I'm confident enough in my choices.

May 18, 2012
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Redack

But if Roxas is mafia, that would likely be two townies down. I'd rather we have Teddy lynched so the vig could decide between Kyon or Roxas.

But the round is over if you're the double voter, so Kyon is dead.

May 18, 2012
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Bubba

Well, the Vigilante can choose between Teddy and I, so what does it really matter who goes into the night (even though that is confirmed to be Teddy)?

May 18, 2012
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`Roxas`

Final standings for the day:

Kyon: 5 (Zanic, `Roxas`, Redack [DV], Helius)
Redack: 1 (Teddy-Son)
`Roxas`: 1 (Bubba)

May 18, 2012
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`Roxas`

Because it wouldn't surprise me if you killed your own mafia member, Kyon.

Vigilante, please think this through.

May 18, 2012
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Bubba

And please, no one else vote for Kyon so we can confirm that the DV is one of the four.

May 18, 2012
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Bubba

The only way I would kill a fellow Mafia, if I was Mafia, is if they were under too much fire from the town. I named five people on Day Two, one of them was most likely killed by the Mafia and the other two at the hands of the town. If Kyon is indeed Mafia as I have suspected for the last four day rounds, why would I throw a third member in three days to leave me by myself? I've been after Kyon for, what, four out of five days? How does that reflect on me as a player as a whole in the game, regardless of my side? To answer the last question I posed, it reflects badly on me as a player. The town will kill their own at some point in time, but overall we are as visually blind as Toph Bei Fong.

And I dare say this gif is appropriate for our apparent disagreement, Bubba.



May 18, 2012
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`Roxas`

Night 5.

And so, the town decided to lynch fairly quickly. With the required number of votes, Kyon, the Godfather, was killed.

1. Shadowwalked - Psychiatrist
2. CtR Black - Townie
3. Teddy-Son
4. Redack
5. #85 - Townie
6. Count Dooku - Mafia Investigator
7. MajorasMask9 - Ghoul
8. hezekiah - Silencer
9. Helius
10. Kyon - Godfather
11. `Roxas`
12. Zanic
13. Xhin - Insane Cop
14. poptart!
15. Knukles2000 - Mafioso
16. Bubba
17. white lancer - Townie
18. DragonintheShadow - Sensor
19. chiefsonny - Arsonist

Godfather, Mafia Investigator, Silencer, Mafioso, Lunatic Vigilante, Sensor, Cop, Doctor, Psychiatrist, Arsonist, Double-voter, Ghoul, Townie.

Mafia-Town Ratio: 1-6

24 hours. {<00}

Continued in [p:65989].

May 18, 2012
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Yeano

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