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game 7 thread 2 night 2 welp looks like 85s guilty

Posted June 28, 2012 by Yeano

Continued from [p:67367]

Day 2


A person is missing. No one can find Trever Leingod. Well, we just have to assume that he was murdered last night.


1. Xhin
2. Count Dooku
3. hezekiah
4. Shadowwalked
5. Wild Luxray
6. Trever Leingod - ???
7. White Thunder
8. Teddy-Son
9. MajorasMask9
10. CtR Black
11. Morrigan
12. `Roxas`
13. DragonintheShadows
14. Black Yoshi
15. chiefsonny
16. Vandy
17. white lancer
18. #85

Starting Mafia-Town-Other Ratio: 4-11-3

Our roles this game include: Doctor (1), Cop (1), Townie (9), Godfather (1), Janitor (1), Mafioso (2), FBI Agent (1), Journalist (1), Fool (1)

You now have 72 hours to vote (or 11 votes to end the round)

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Hurray, I'm still alive! Voting for myself until some evidence comes along.

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Xhin
Sky's the limit

So far no one seems guilty. So, I'll be going random for now.

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Teddy-Son

Well I'll just hold off on voting until Roxas comes back.

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MajorasMask9

...unless he was silenced this round; after all, the Mafia killed Trever, but who's to say they didn't silence Roxas?

Anyway, even though I do have a few suspicions, holding my vote for now.

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Black Yoshi

silencer this game, Yoshi. No info, so I'll be holding my vote for now.

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Dragon in the Shadows

Well, I can say that #85 was the person I investigated last night. Upon the investigation of this individual, the party in question was found innocent.

June 28, 2012
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`Roxas`

Still a possibility that he's Godfather or Fool but that's highly unlikely. We don't have much to go on, now. Without a conversion role we can potentially afford to go another day without a kill but hopefully we can weed somebody out today.

June 28, 2012
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White Thunder

Damn...note to self, read roles before making and ASS out of U and ME...

Anyhoo, I do have a couple of suspicions from last round, but I'll have to reread the thread before I place a vote.

June 28, 2012
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Black Yoshi

Where's my morning paper >:[

June 28, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Speaking of the Journalist--if they didn't stick around in #85's room last night already--perhaps in the next round they could watch someone that Roxas plans on investigating. I have no idea what kind of evidence they get, but I'm sure a cop checking someone would be worth reporting on :).

Would confirm or deny Roxas's cop claim anyway.

June 28, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Then again I'd have to get some clarification from Yeano as to whether or not the Journalist gets information on any action in someone's room or just nightkills since he likes to be unclear in his role descriptions!!

June 28, 2012
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MajorasMask9

how does the journalist work anyway? Never been the journalist. By "rooms" to check, does it mean a single post you can enter?

June 28, 2012
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Vandy

Journalist - The Journalist is a role that loves scandal. Each night, the journalist can check someone's room. If a scandal happens there, the journalist will get some nice evidence. Each day round, the journalist will have the option of writing an article for that day's paper. In this article, the Journalist will be able to use evidence he has obtained or not. The Journalist gets 1 player point for every lynching he is deemed to influence.


Depends on 1) who he (or she) investigated and 2) IF he (or she) wants to share that information, but only if something happens in the player's room who he (or she) investigated.

At least, that's hat I've interpreted it as.

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`Roxas`

While this is the first game that contains the Journalist role, the term "rooms" refers basically to a fictional place where a player sleeps. When asked to do something involving a "room", a player will simply pick another player, and Yeano will simulate the events.

For instance, if the Arsonest role is in play, at night he will be able to burn down somebodies room in an attempt to kill them. The Arsonest would pick another player in the Arsonest thread, and Yeano would flip a coin, GT style, there. If heads, the person dies. If tails, the person survives and can not be attacked by the arsonest again.

June 28, 2012
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Wild Luxray

In other mafia games that I know Yeano's played, "room" is just a general term used to describe where the player is. So, if the mafia were to kill Trever, someone in the mafia would walk into Trever's room and then kill him. If the cop checks someone, they also enter the person's room, etc.

It only really comes into play with more technical roles that I don't think have been used yet on gtx0. Though I'd still like to know if the Journalist sees every action in a player's room or just nightkill info.

June 28, 2012
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MajorasMask9

As with last round, I am open to suggestions (or votes) for somebody to investigate.

Still a possibility that he's Godfather or Fool but that's highly unlikely.

My thoughts as I saw that. As I said last round, it may be better to wait until we eliminate the Janitor and Mafioso players before moving on to going after one person. I have some thoughts on how we could weed out the Fool after getting those three players.

June 28, 2012
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`Roxas`

oh I gotcha, I was just a little lost with the whole "room" idea

strange that Trever was taken out while Roxas was touting his role as cop all along. I thought you would be gone today for sure

June 28, 2012
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Vandy

Mafia may well figure that the Doc has me covered. As soon as they get him (or her), then I am easy picking.

Essentially, death of Doc = death of me. They may well continue going about a "Kill random townie, hide the body so that they have no idea what role was taken out of the game" strategy. Though, if they did happen to get the Doc last night, then I will surely die tonight. Doesn't really matter if they hide my body or not, since I've already stated my role.

June 28, 2012
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`Roxas`

Posted by Redack in the mod forum:

I believe your town requires purging and that all of its citizens deserve to die. This is why it is my hope that the Mafia eradicates you all!


He is Mafia for sure!

...unless he was silenced this round; after all, the Mafia killed Trever, but who's to say they didn't silence Roxas?


Either Yoshi is NOT Mafia or he is a good actor. The Mafia members would obviously know their teams roles.

June 28, 2012
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Wild Luxray

@Vandy they probably assumed roxas would be protected, assuming they believe him

Now while I'm not solid on roxas, he did gain some trust with me on his correct read.

Yeah this janitor role is going to leave us in the dark even more.

I don't really see what Trever did to warrant a target, so that leads me to think someone from the Jedi forum is mafia. Those are dooku, Teddy, I'm not sure who else. Anyone want to discuss this?

June 28, 2012
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#85

Trever, Dooku, Teddy, Lancer, and Morrigan.

June 28, 2012
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Wild Luxray

He is Mafia for sure!

Except that Redack isn't playing. {>:(}


Trever's death could be because he was the one that stuck by me through the first round.

I am beginning to believe that one player that has already posted this round is our Fool.

June 28, 2012
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`Roxas`

Hm, well that's something to think about.

June 28, 2012
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#85

I kind of had a wacky theory that the Trever kill was more along the lines of a joke after Trever said this last round:

Seriously, if [Roxas is] either and the doctor doesn't protect him from death.... I'm coming for you, doc... {troll}


Even if it wasn't a joke, they might have thought that he'd be a free kill, because if he was the doctor, he wouldn't be protecting himself after saying that.

June 28, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Hm... That is a possibility. Looks like we will find out tonight.

June 28, 2012
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`Roxas`

So we gambling or no voting? I'm down for either but I think we are onto something.

Another thing to point out, I'm guessing the FBI agent chose not to take anyone?

June 28, 2012
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#85

Unless the FBI Agent chose to arrest Trever on top of the mafia kill, the FBI Agent didn't choose to arrest anyone.

I'd still rather wait and see if the Journalist has anything to report on before voting. Yeano would be the one to post the news article as we saw last "game," and he's away right now.

June 28, 2012
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MajorasMask9

I think we wait for any journalist report that may be given to us as a clue, and unless said clue gives us a fair enough lead on somebody, then we no kill again.

I do think, however, that the FBI Agent arrest somebody tonight. Right now, my best idea would be Xhin. I don't see why anybody but the Fool would vote for themselves in the first two rounds of the game.

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`Roxas`

If someone is arrested they're essentially dead, and go to the "Dead/Imprisoned" thread. Yeano said that we'd also be told what their role was.

Xhin also voted for himself last round, so it's obvious he's trying to play the ambiguous "Fool card." Which honestly I'd recommend against doing if you're any form of town-sided player. Ideally we should have the FBI Agent arresting the people who act like a Fool, because the real Fool could also easily hide behind an "over the top Fool act," and with other people doing it as well it just makes it easier on them.

June 28, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Agreed. Yes, it dwindles our numbers down, but it should only be done if it has been made obvious, such is the case with Xhin at the moment. If the FBI Agent uses his or her ability sparingly, then we should be fine.

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`Roxas`

Actually, I think there is less of a blowback and no chance of mafia masking if the FBI agent arrests someone rather then us lynching someone. Unfortunately the FBI agent cant come forward because the doctor is already committed to protecting the cop.

June 28, 2012
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#85

Then again, we are assuming FBI agent want's to be town sided.

June 28, 2012
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#85

You guys do realize that the FBI Agent can't just randomly kill someone, right? An arrest on a townie would reveal their identity to the Journalist. And the FBI doesn't have a protector to rely on if that were to happen.

Just saying, I wouldn't rely on them to much.

June 28, 2012
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Wild Luxray

The FBI Agent gets points when they lynch a member of the mafia, so they are technically town-sided. If they decide to work with the mafia, they don't get any points.

I also think it would be pointless for the FBI Agent to claim. Not only would it mean the Doctor would have two targets to jump back and forth between protecting, but it doesn't really benefit anyone knowing who the FBI Agent is.

Then again, for all we know, Trever could have been the FBI Agent or the Doctor.

June 28, 2012
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MajorasMask9

And Dragon in the Shadows pointed out his thoughts on Teddy being the Fool.

Here are some examples of what Teddy said:

Hey guys what happens when the fool is on the hill?

No one caught my Beatles reference? You damn kids all riding on the sidewalks with your skateboards.

Batman would respond to it.

I ate a gibberish once. With BBQ sauce its was pretty good.

You know I pity the fool.

-Teddy throws a Pokeball at the Wild Luxray-

Anyone here smell a rat? Cause I smell I bunch of them.{troll}

First party is great, loads of fun, lots of stuff to do. Second party is good, there is a lot of people here but not much to do. But what there is to do it is really fun. But third parties are like surprises, you never know what you're gonna get.

This would be a perfect Mafia game for April 1st


Anybody else see the point being made here? We know Teddy isn't the best at dropping subtle hints (see the game where he was the Doctor and the last regular game when he was the last Mafia trying to justify his voting for me).

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`Roxas`

You guys do realize that the FBI Agent can't just randomly kill someone, right? An arrest on a townie would reveal their identity to the Journalist. And the FBI doesn't have a protector to rely on if that were to happen.


This is the part of the role I don't get honestly. The Journalist will know who the FBI Agent is, but there's no real incentive for him to publish it. The Journalist gets points whenever they are deemed to influence a lynching. If the Journalist revealed the FBI Agent, it's not like the town is going to lynch them. If anything, it would influence the mafia to kill the FBI Agent, and thus since it wasn't a lynch, the Journalist wouldn't get points for it.

The only way I could see the Journalist publishing the FBI Agent's identity influencing a lynch would be if the confirmed FBI Agent was going to be lynched, but the reveal makes the bandwagon shift to someone else.

My thoughts anyway!

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MajorasMask9

I think you guys are crazy.

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Teddy-Son

I think you guys are crazy.

Why's that exactly?

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`Roxas`

Anybody else see the point being made here? We know Teddy isn't the best at dropping subtle hints (see the game where he was the Doctor and the last regular game when he was the last Mafia trying to justify his voting for me).

I agree with you on Teddy. He's been far too 'random' this game. I'd suggest the FBI Agent jail Teddy as a possible Fool and we no kill and hope the journalist gets something tonight.

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Count Dooku

Don't arrest me I am just a townie. Why can't I be funny?

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Teddy-Son

There's nothing wrong with being funny, but it's the frequency that it happens is what is raising some red flags.

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`Roxas`

I don't understand why the Fool would throw out hints to his identity. Not like we would lynch somebody for being funny.

And trust me, that's just who Teddy is. He's just a lighthearted guy.

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Wild Luxray

And trust me, that's just who Teddy is. He's just a lighthearted guy.

Or he's a mafia member trying to appear as the fool so the town won't lynch him... We have to consider both sides of it.

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Count Dooku

I don't understand why the Fool would throw out hints to his identity. Not like we would lynch somebody for being funny.


because leaving obvious hints makes you want to think that they're trying to get killed which makes them look guilty which makes you want to kill them, which is what they want

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Vandy

Hmm... well, the way I see it, I'm not going to vote to kill anybody who is TRYING to get killed.

Besides, Teddy just isn't that clever(no offence, Teddy).

June 28, 2012
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Wild Luxray

Or he's a mafia member trying to appear as the fool so the town won't lynch him... We have to consider both sides of it.

Either way he makes a good possible target for the FBI tonight.

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White Thunder

Besides, Teddy just isn't that clever(no offence, Teddy).

None take I know I am not that clever, there is no way I can be planning something.

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Teddy-Son

Say, what are the chances that the Fool is the guy who keeps voting for himself? Would he really make it THAT easy do you think?{<00}

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Wild Luxray

Either Yoshi is NOT Mafia or he is a good actor. The Mafia members would obviously know their teams roles.


@Luxray: I'm not that good of an actor, believe me. That I was able to feign being silenced and get away with it in Game 2 was sheer luck. I just assumed that since there's been a Silencer in every single game since Game 2, there was a Silencer in this game, when clearly there isn't.

Anyway, looking through yesterday's thread raises suspicions about White Lancer and Teddy-Son; I've never seen Lancer make so little sense in all of the games I've watched/played, and even though that's just Teddy's personality, he could be Mafia playing the Fool such that we don't lynch him, thus giving the Mafia the game (safely assuming the real Fool is arrested, of course).

I'm hesitant to vote for either one, for fear that one of them may actually be the Fool; instead, I'd prefer Roxas to investigate one and the FBI agent to arrest the other. If neither is Mafia, and the Agent misses the Fool, then I'm out of ideas.

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Black Yoshi

That would be too easy.

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Teddy-Son

I'm hesitant to vote for either one, for fear that one of them may actually be the Fool; instead, I'd prefer Roxas to investigate one and the FBI agent to arrest the other. If neither is Mafia, and the Agent misses the Fool, then I'm out of ideas.

That's probably our best bet right now. I'm still not going to no vote though, since we are only fifteen hours into this round.

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`Roxas`

Say, what are the chances that the Fool is the guy who keeps voting for himself? Would he really make it THAT easy do you think?{<00}


What if that's what he wants you to think? {<00}

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MajorasMask9

Who would be foolish enough to pretend to be Mafia? That puts a huge target on his back.

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Teddy-Son

Well the fool could be, for one.

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hezekiah

Your Daily Newspaper

Written by: The Journalist

Help Wanted - A Missing Man

A community has got together to pray for the safety, and discovery of well-loved Trever Leingod after his tragic disappearance the former night. Many of his neighbors are now crying out: what monster could do this?! Investigators are seeking eyewitnesses to step forward, and any information will greatly aid the search for the beloved Trever Leingod.

Authorities have investigated his residence and after digging through a totally healthy, and not at all weird Star Wars collection the search however still continues.

An anonymous source has however stepped forward and claims to have seen multiple people entering Trever Leingod's room not long before his disappearance, and though many of them were not identified, the witness claims he recognized one of the intruders as a man known only as "#85". Any information regarding this suspect should immediately be handed over to the proper authorities. Trever Leingod's family is relying on YOU good people of Mafia Town.

Maybe we should change the town name, though.

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Yeano

looks like #85 might be the Janitor...Just a thought. Still no vote.

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Dragon in the Shadows

Well... That's interesting. Really doesn't sound good for #85

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Count Dooku

He better have a darn good explanation for this. With that, it makes him much more likely to be the Godfather, and if he was the first Mafia to vote for Trever then he would have been seen in his room.

Yeano, is it allowed for the journalist to lie and say whatever they want? After all, if they're just trying to get us to lynch someone they could just be basing their article off of our suspicions of him.

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White Thunder

If the journalist is telling the truth then #85 is obviously guilty. If #85 is guilty, then Roxas was also lying about his cop claim.

I don't believe the journalist would have any reason to lie but who knows.

Going to switch my vote to #85. If #85 is guilty, I'd suggest the FBI Agent arrest Roxas.

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MajorasMask9

This works out well for us I believe.

We should lynch #85. If he is the godfather, then Roxas is confirmed for cop and we've weeded out a very hard to find role.

I'm going to suggest the FBI Agent arrests either Teddy or Lancer, both of whom are being a bit odd and could be the Fool.

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Count Dooku

#85 does seem kind of fishy to me as well. He could be a mafia member.

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Teddy-Son

Guess we were lucky that the journalist hid in Trever's room last night.

Wild Luxray changed his vote to #85

June 28, 2012
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Wild Luxray

Also!

I'm going to suggest the FBI Agent arrests either Teddy or Lancer, both of whom are being a bit odd and could be the Fool.


How has lancer acted odd this game?

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MajorasMask9

How has lancer acted odd this game?

Well, he was particularly interested in the Fool's win conditions. Then he seemed to believe Trever was covering for Xhin for some reason. Clearly that wasn't the case.

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Count Dooku

is right on all that. And if I remember correctly he assumed that Xhin and the other admins were in the Mafia...But that may have been a joke.

June 28, 2012
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Dragon in the Shadows

Hey I just realized. Four people voted for 85 but the tally says three. Do the tallies change at all?

June 28, 2012
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Teddy-Son

Feral didn't "officially" vote for #85. I assume he's on mobile gtx0, which doesn't give you the option to place a vote.

June 28, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Hmmm...the Journalist seems to have given us a lead.

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Black Yoshi

Majora is correct. Once a thread goes beyond 25 or so replies, it becomes unloadable via regular GT on my DS. I have to use Mobile GT, so I can load 20 replies at a time.

Unfortunatly, there is no voting option on Mobile GT, so I have to write my vote in manually.

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Wild Luxray

Ahh okay

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Teddy-Son

Well, I'm mafia. No point lol.

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#85

tell us who the other Mafia members are and we'll let you go. Just kidding. Joining the mob. Lynch him!

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Dragon in the Shadows

Or am I the fool ? {troll}

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#85

fool doesn't have any night actions.

{:P}

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Dragon in the Shadows

Wow. Okay then.

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White Thunder

Figured as much. Wolf in sheep's clothing.

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`Roxas`

@#85, if you were the Fool you wouldn't mention it and risk stopping the bandwagon against you!

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MajorasMask9

Thank you, Dooku, for catching MM9's mistake.

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`Roxas`

85 got snitched out

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CtR Black

No problem :P I'm sure MM9 meant what I said anyway.

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Count Dooku

{troll}{troll}

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#85

count 9 votes (including Feral's) for #85. Two more and he gets lynched.

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Dragon in the Shadows

that one more vote due to CtR.

{*^_^*}

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Dragon in the Shadows

Kill the number!

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Teddy-Son

Thank you, Dooku, for catching MM9's mistake.


I made a mistake??

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MajorasMask9

If the journalist is telling the truth then #85 is obviously guilty. If #85 is guilty, then Roxas was also lying about his cop claim.

Partial mistake. #85 can be guilty but showing up as innocent. He could be the godfather.

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Count Dooku

Anyway, looking through yesterday's thread raises suspicions about White Lancer and Teddy-Son; I've never seen Lancer make so little sense in all of the games I've watched/played, and even though that's just Teddy's personality, he could be Mafia playing the Fool such that we don't lynch him, thus giving the Mafia the game (safely assuming the real Fool is arrested, of course).

Well, he was particularly interested in the Fool's win conditions. Then he seemed to believe Trever was covering for Xhin for some reason. Clearly that wasn't the case.

Honestly, I was trying to feel out Trever's playing style since I haven't played with him before. Plus his immediate defense of the admins struck me as odd--I did actually think he was suspicious but I wasn't suspicious enough to actually straight-up accuse him. Probably would have pushed for Roxas to investigate him tonight, though, if he hadn't bitten the dust.

Xhin also voted for himself last round, so it's obvious he's trying to play the ambiguous "Fool card." Which honestly I'd recommend against doing if you're any form of town-sided player. Ideally we should have the FBI Agent arresting the people who act like a Fool, because the real Fool could also easily hide behind an "over the top Fool act," and with other people doing it as well it just makes it easier on them.

The other problem with Townies acting like the Fool is that the Mafia will probably shy away from killing anyone who looks, ahem, Fool-ish, making their chances of hitting the real Fool and ending the game for both of us that much higher. You'd be protecting yourself from being nightkilled while simultaneously hurting your team's chances at winning.

#85 is obviously either Mafia or Fool--no reason he would have admitted to being Mafia otherwise. I'm wary of going after him after Roxas declared him innocent simply because of the possibility of him being the Fool, and I'm not certain we can take everything the Journalist says as truthful since they really don't care who gets lynched. I'd also like to point out that Roxas is not necessarily fake claiming Cop if #85 does turn out to be the Janitor or a Mafioso, since he could easily be either the Naïve Cop or the Insane Cop.

Really hope #85 isn't the Fool because if he is, we just made his win REALLY easy.

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white lancer

Oh, and I'm not going to vote #85 and I suggest the rest of us don't vote for him either. We should let the FBI agent arrest #85 tonight because that's much safer--if, by chance, he does wind up being the Fool that protects us from losing.

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white lancer

fool doesn't have a night action. He couldn't have been in Trever's room last night. Thus I stand by my belief that he is Mafia.

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Dragon in the Shadows

I hope the journalist is right about this

thought 85 was in the clear after last night

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Vandy

Too late. Teddy was the deciding vote. IF #85 is the Fool, then he already won the game.

Um, Teddy DID vote in the reply where he said "Kill the number!", right? I can't see votes on MobileGT.

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Wild Luxray

Oh, and I'm not going to vote #85 and I suggest the rest of us don't vote for him either. We should let the FBI agent arrest #85 tonight because that's much safer--if, by chance, he does wind up being the Fool that protects us from losing.

I'm in total agreement with this statement until the Fool is out of the game. If we think someone is suspicious during the day round we should vote No Kill and direct the FBI Agent to take them out to be safe.

However, in #85's case the journalist has given us pretty strong indication that #85 has a role that visits during the night round. And that means he cannot be the Fool.

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Count Dooku

I'm not sure I'm entirely clear on the Journalist's power. Is he limited to writing about actual scandals (i.e. people who visited rooms in the night) or can he pretty much write whatever he wants? I guess Vandy's vote seals it up, but I just don't see any reason why voting someone out is preferable to having the FBI Agent arrest them. We already know that someone's role will be revealed if they are arrested so that's just as viable an option as voting someone off, and it has the added advantage of protecting us from killing the Fool.

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white lancer

Because there is no guarentee the FBI will cooperate. They are tenichally not a townie. Maybe I'm a skeptic, but I don't see why the FBI is going to do what the town demands.

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Wild Luxray

Because there is no guarentee the FBI will cooperate. They are tenichally not a townie. Maybe I'm a skeptic, but I don't see why the FBI is going to do what the town demands.

Certainly FBI wins with the town?

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Count Dooku

[quotw]Partial mistake. #85 can be guilty but showing up as innocent. He could be the godfather.


I probably should have clarified I meant "guilty" as in what would show up as a cop check.

Also, @white lancer: Seeing that #85's defense when the vote was in his favor was saying "Oh, but what if I'm the Fool!", it's pretty safe to say he isn't. The journalist caught him in Trever's room. If the journalist is lying, the town won't trust anything they publish for the rest of the game. All signs point to this being a safe lynch.

And @Feral: The FBI Agent's goal is to eliminate the mafia, but also, they are the only way to get rid of the Fool. If the Fool wins, nobody else wins. Until the Fool dies, if anyone is aware of who the FBI Agent is, it would be smart not to kill them. Going into an endgame scenario with the Fool alive would be just frustrating.

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MajorasMask9

Read the role again. FBI gets a point for every Mafia they arrest. They don't win with either side.

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Wild Luxray

Seeing that #85's defense when the vote was in his favor was saying


When the vote was against him^

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MajorasMask9

Read the role again. FBI gets a point for every Mafia they arrest. They don't win with either side.

Still kinda in their interest to cooperate with the town, particularly the cop. Cooperation = More Points. But you are correct, I was wrong to assume the FBI Agent needed to cooperate with us to win.

Still, if we're lucky we got a helpful FBI Agent that will arrest Teddy tonight.

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Count Dooku

I still believe that the FBI Agent needs to take Teddy or Xhin, preferably the latter. I'm not too sure who to investigate tonight.

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`Roxas`

It's a long shot, but IF #85 turns out to be the godfather I'd suggest you investigate someone that didn't vote for his lynching. Possibly Xhin, as I believe he's one of the few not voting for #85.

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Count Dooku

Also, @white lancer: Seeing that #85's defense when the vote was in his favor was saying "Oh, but what if I'm the Fool!", it's pretty safe to say he isn't. The journalist caught him in Trever's room. If the journalist is lying, the town won't trust anything they publish for the rest of the game. All signs point to this being a safe lynch.

All signs apart from Roxas's declaration of innocence, that is. Frankly, I probably would have played the same way if I were the Fool and in #85's position--his comment about the Fool was pretty obviously not going to sway anyone because we'd all make the same assumption you did. I agree that #85 is more likely Mafia than not, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

The other thing is that if #85 did happen to be the Fool, we'd have a good chance at identifying the real Mafia members if we got close to the cut-off and then voted "No Kill." The real Mafia would realize that #85 was the Fool since he wasn't with them and they probably wouldn't have voted for him. Could have been a major payoff on the off chance that #85 was the Fool.

The FBI agent would cooperate--there's no reason for them not to. They need the game to keep going so they can get more points, and the Fool prevents that. Also, no reason for them not to arrest people we're pretty confident are Mafia because hello, free points!

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white lancer

Xhin and lancer are the two who did not vote for him.

chiefsonny and Shadowwalked are the only ones who have not to have voted for anybody.

Wild Luxray voted for #85, correct? I had to read so much to get caught up since I was last on here.

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`Roxas`

I did.

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Wild Luxray

The FBI agent would cooperate--there's no reason for them not to. They need the game to keep going so they can get more points, and the Fool prevents that. Also, no reason for them not to arrest people we're pretty confident are Mafia because hello, free points!


I'm sure the journalist would like points as well. But as I said, having the FBI Agent arresting the Fool should be everyone's main concern at the moment. Maybe they'd get hero points for freeing us from this paranoia-inducing role!

June 29, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Thank you for that clarification.

And I agree. Right now either Teddy or Xhin being arrested I feel would be our safest bet.

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`Roxas`

chiefsonny and Shadowwalked are the only ones who have not to have voted for anybody.

I was out at dinner :(

But, it seems pretty silly to assume that #85 would be the fool if other people were seen with him (Unless the fool now has a group of people working with him ?????) so I think its safe to say we're in the clear.

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Shadowwalked

Not sure about #85. If he is the Fool. Game over{:(}

June 29, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

Alright, well, I gotta babysit all day again tomorrow, so I gotta get some sleep. I guess we will see what happens with #85 and the night roles.

June 29, 2012
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Wild Luxray

May also be worth investigating Chiefsony or Shadowwalked...

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Count Dooku

I have repeatively said the fool has no night action. Thus the only way #85 could have been in Trever's room is if he was a member of the Mafia. Furthermore he has to be the Janitor 'cause the body disappeared.

even if he is the fool, so what? We move on to game 8 and be fool free.

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Dragon in the Shadows

But he showed up as innocent in my check, meaning he'd have to be the Godfather.

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`Roxas`

So basically, if #85 shows up as janitor or mafioso, the FBI Agent knows who to arrest.

And if he shows up as godfather, then the doctor knows who to protect.

And if he's a townie... {<00}

June 29, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Chiefsony

chiefsonny

"May also be worth investigating Chiefsony or Shadowwalked..."

I welcome any and all investigations on me. I have already said I am a member of the gang of 9, so if you want our cop to waste a turn on me, go for it.

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chiefsonny
 

Did I miss some sort of clarification about the Journalist or something? Because everyone's assuming that the only reason he would be able to mention someone in his write-up is if that person actually visited someone, but I haven't seen that confirmed at all.

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white lancer

So basically, if #85 shows up as janitor or mafioso, the FBI Agent knows who to arrest.

If #85 is Janitor or Mafioso, I think it's more likely that Roxas is a Naïve or Insane Cop than that he false-roleclaimed Cop on the very first day.

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white lancer

Forgive my typo :P

I recommended investigating you only because you and Shadowwalked suddenly got your #85 votes in after I suggested investigating those that hadn't voted for #85. But you're probably right, it isn't necessary to waste an investigation on a simple observation.

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Count Dooku

Night 2


After reading the morning paper, the town pretty much all went for #85. He resigned to his fate, voting for himself. He tried to fool the town (get it?), but it didn't work. His hanging corpse let everyone know that the Godfather was dead.


1. Xhin
2. Count Dooku
3. hezekiah
4. Shadowwalked
5. Wild Luxray
6. Trever Leingod - ???
7. White Thunder
8. Teddy-Son
9. MajorasMask9
10. CtR Black
11. Morrigan
12. `Roxas`
13. DragonintheShadows
14. Black Yoshi
15. chiefsonny
16. Vandy
17. white lancer
18. #85 - Godfather

Starting Mafia-Town-Other Ratio: 4-11-3

Our roles this game include: Doctor (1), Cop (1), Townie (9), Godfather (1), Janitor (1), Mafioso (2), FBI Agent (1), Journalist (1), Fool (1)

You have 24 hours for night actions.

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Yeano

Continued in [p:67520].

June 29, 2012
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Yeano

Reply to: game 7 thread 2 night 2 welp looks like 85s guilty

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