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game 8 mafia thread

Posted July 6, 2012 by white lancer

Welcome to this game's Mafia! You're a special group, obviously, since the game's named after you. Here's a rundown of your particular roles.

Zanic is the Godfather and will show up as Innocent if checked by the Cop. Additionally, your vote will be the deciding vote if there is a tie on who to kill during the night round.

`Roxas` is taking a break from his Cop job for a more, um, interesting role as the Hooker. You can select someone every night and distract them from performing their night actions.

MajorasMask9 is the Executioner. If the Town is moronic enough to give someone 1/4th of the total possible votes before deciding not to kill them, you can finish the job.

Wild Luxray is the Janitor. You can select someone during the night, and if they're killed, their role will not be revealed to the Town in the morning (although it will be revealed here).

Finally, chiefsonny is the Thug. You get the honor of dying in the place of any of your fellow Mafia members, and if you do so you will earn +1 points at the end of the game.

Good luck!

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Dammit I was going to suggest killing roxas first :(

July 6, 2012
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MajorasMask9

You can still do that, if you wish.

July 6, 2012
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white lancer

How much does the hooker charge. May need to recharge my batteries b4 we get started.

July 6, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

Nice. First time I've ever been mafia! I'll try not to give my role away somehow.

July 6, 2012
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Zanic

Awesome.

And chief, sorry, but this ol' girl (well, guy) is closed for business. {:P}

And FINALLY, a shot at Mafia from the get go. Glad to be working with such a well rounded group. Let's roll. {8D}

July 6, 2012
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`Roxas`

Roxas, your role is the only one that could have an effect tonight. You may feel free to select someone to visit, if you wish.

July 6, 2012
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white lancer

Wow, not a bad looking group! Four of the biggest thinkers and a somewhat quiet "under-the-radar" guy. This will be my second stint as Mafia.

Just one thing- I may be the Janitor, but I DON'T CLEAN TOILETS!!!

July 6, 2012
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Wild Luxray

Something is telling me Trever is something good this game.

I will use my, erm, "services" for Trever.

July 6, 2012
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`Roxas`

What about bedrooms? {;)} {*^_^*}

July 6, 2012
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`Roxas`

Not after you've been there! {troll}

I noticed in the ratio Lancer posted in the main thread, it shows there being 6 Mafia members, but there are only 5 of us here. I think the Lunatic is concidered Mafia in the ratio.

July 6, 2012
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Wild Luxray

You are correct, Feral.

And Trever will be getting a visit tonight. Let's hope he appreciates it.

July 6, 2012
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white lancer

Yeah. Not sure how I got to be an "under-the-radar" character, but I guess it helps in this case.

July 6, 2012
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Zanic

Also just curious

MajorasMask9 is the Executioner. If the Town is moronic enough to give someone 1/4th of the total possible votes before deciding not to kill them, you can finish the job.


Was that a typo or are we using new rules for this game? Usually it takes 1/3 of the vote for an executioner kill. If it is 1/4, it might be best to mention that in the main thread as well.

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MajorasMask9

If I'm right if at any time the vote for one person gets at 1/4th or 1/3rd what ever, the Executioner needs to lock in his vote right away. And it can not be changed.

I know that in one of the two games that I was Mafia, we used it just don't remember how.

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chiefsonny
 

Yeah, back in that one game when you and I were mafia I was the executioner then too :).

But the past games it's been 1/3 votes required to execute someone, which is what it says everywhere else except the description here, which states 1/4 votes. Just want to clear up which one it is.

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MajorasMask9

Better to clarify than to exploit a potential mistake.

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`Roxas`

We all appriciate your honesty, Majora. Last thing we need is to be accused of cheating.

I was Executioner last time I was Mafia. Never had the opportunity to use my powers, though.

I don't hide bodies. I'm a Luxray. I eat the damned things!

July 6, 2012
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Wild Luxray

Eating bodies, hiding bodies; what's the difference? {:P} Maybe this group can get the long awaited Mafia sweep!

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`Roxas`

Yeah, back in that one game when you and I were mafia I was the executioner then too :).

We did kick butt.{:D}
Well you guys did, I was just along for the ride.

Really enjoyed that game.

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chiefsonny
 

Better to clarify than to exploit a potential mistake.

I hope that white lancer can clear it up in a way that it don't look like we were talking about it in this forum and ask him to clarify it.

The less attention we bring to our self the better.

Another thing I think we should think about.

In the day rounds, just try to act like we are a reg townie and not a power player.

There's only 6 of us, but we (the Mafia) have won with less.

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chiefsonny
 

Well you guys did, I was just along for the ride.


Pssh, you're the one that was alive at the end! You also ended up convincing me to go along with some of your strategies even though I was initially against them, which ended up being the better idea in the end :).

What we should worry about in Day 1 is if anyone comes up with the idea of mass roleclaiming. Everybody has a unique role, which means there would be no place for us to hide except contradicting other players' claims. However, this shouldn't be as big of an issue in the longrun if we hide bodies from the town. We'd be able to essentially steal their role without worrying about being counterclaimed against. That said, keeping Wild Luxray alive should be our highest priority.

If anyone brings up the idea of a mass roleclaim, I'd suggest subtley telling them off. Say it's too drastic a move for so early in the game or something, and hope people ignore it. I mean, it would be the best strategy for the town, but not us!

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MajorasMask9

My mistake. It should read 1/3 rather than 1/4.

July 6, 2012
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white lancer

How about the Cop?

Try to take him out early when we know who he is?

If it had been `Roxas` again it sure would have made our job easy.{:P}

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chiefsonny
 

Definitely. Like I said, I have a strong feeling that Trever is some kind of good role.

I think we need to keep the Lovers alive as long as possible.

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`Roxas`

There are no vanilla townies? I hadn't noticed.

I agree with keeping a low profile, but I don't want to appear to have a different mentality either. I am know for being unorthodox, so I have to play that way. I certainly won't draw attention to myself, though.

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Wild Luxray

I think there are six or seven vanillas.

July 6, 2012
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`Roxas`

I guess I misunderstood Majora when he said that everybody has unique roles...

July 6, 2012
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Wild Luxray

Whoops! I didn't look at the ratio, just the role list. Expected to see something along the lines of (Townie x6) or whatever.

MY BAD.

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MajorasMask9

No worries.

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`Roxas`

Yeah, the cop won't be an issue for me. But I'd like to keep you guys alive. Watch me be the first to die anyway :p

Anyway, this could turn into a good game for us. If the cop reveals himself in the first day round, I suggest we go for someone else in hopes of hitting the doctor.

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Zanic

Good idea.

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`Roxas`

Day 1 has started. Unfortunatly, Yeano isn't here to switch the announcement.

July 6, 2012
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Wild Luxray

I'm about to drive to my dad's hometown, but I should have internet connection there and I will be back tonight.

July 6, 2012
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Zanic

I should be around all weekend.

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Wild Luxray

Ohh man. Dooku's plan bothers me. We should definitely take him out tonight.

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Zanic

I've got a question for white lancer regarding the Executioner and Sensor.

Let's say 18 people vote for someone in the Day round, giving them the majority vote. If I chose to execute them, would the sensor still receive the Day round results?

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MajorasMask9

Also, I don't think we should kill Dooku tonight. The fact that he suggested sacrificing himself Day 1 for info makes me think he isn't an important role.

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MajorasMask9

The thought hadn't occurred to me. Plus now that someone will have to die, Dooku offered himself, so he would be dead anyway.

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Zanic

The Sensor will still receive results in the case of an execution, but the results will be limited to the votes cast before the decision to execute is made. So if the Town decides to lynch Dooku and 1/3 of them vote for him, and then Majora instantly makes the decision to execute Dooku, then the Sensor will only get results for that first 1/3.

The rationale behind this is that the decision to Execute essentially ends the round early by determining the final result. It's similar for the Governor, since his power essentially ends the round with a No Kill.

July 6, 2012
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white lancer

And now I have to repost this in the main thread since you asked the question there. :P

July 6, 2012
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white lancer

So that means that Majora should try to use his power to end it as soon as Dooku has 1/3 votes. That way Dooku dies and the sensor won't get much useful information.

Also, question. As the godfather, would I show up as guilty to the sensor? I'm not sure if this has been answered before.

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Zanic

Also, if the sensor revealed himself, could Roxas use his powers on the sensor keeping him from getting results?

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Zanic

So We need to hold off as long as possible to cast a vote at least until we have the 1/3 votes. Then MM9 drops the hammer. That way we won't show up.

I think we need to try to keep the day round open as long as it takes to get the 1/3 vote.
We can always use the "everyone has not posted yet and we do have new people" ploy.

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chiefsonny
 

Poor white lancer using all of these roles together I imagine there will be so many questions for you to answer in the days to come :(

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MajorasMask9

The Sensor gets results for anyone who shows up as Mafia in the Town-Mafia ratio, so yeah it receives results for the Godfather. And the Sensor's power technically happens at the end of the Day round so the Hooker does not affect it.

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white lancer

Poor white lancer using all of these roles together I imagine there will be so many questions for you to answer in the days to come :(

Haha, it's my own fault. I switched some of the roles in and out last-minute so I didn't have time to think about how they might interact, but I think going by precedents like the one Yeano set about votes not counting after the round has technically ended will be sufficient for most role interactions.

July 7, 2012
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white lancer

@MajorasMask9, being the excellent player you are I know you know this, but don't forget if that 1/3 vote happens, you must act before it changes.
Or do I have that wrong and it's automatic?

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chiefsonny
 

It's not automatic. Majora has to choose to exercise his power.

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white lancer

If at any point a player has 1/3 votes, Majora can execute.

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`Roxas`

Should I switch my vote to Dooku? Play "eager beaver", so to say? It fits my character, and might counter Red's (true) belief that the Sensor plan wouldn't work. I could even offer myself up, since nobody would actually try and lynch me.

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Wild Luxray

We know that if Teddy is an important role, he will probably slip up early on in the game. Unless he did as I suggested after last game and look through each of the old threads to get an idea of how to either bluff or just coast. I'm hoping on just coasting through the first few rounds, not make a lot of noise in the main thread.

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`Roxas`

I always do that, so keeping quiet shouldn't bring suspicion to me.

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Zanic

Additional thought. Wouldn't it be funny if Xhin was the hooker? Oh, better yet Lux!


If only Dragon knew how close he was on my part! lol Hey, I am a handsome Luxray. A rare shiny!(See my personal icon).

Anyway, I took an advantage of an opening from Dooku's plan and threw some minor suspicion on Dragon for revealing himself.

I don't see any reason for Dooku OR Dragon to lie, so I think it's safe to assume that both are Vanillas.

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Wild Luxray

Redack
Vandy
DragonintheShadows (Vanilla?)
White Thunder
Trever Leingod
Black Yoshi
CtR Black
Jo Nathan
Helius
Teddy-Son
hezekiah
Count Dooku (Vanilla?)
Kyon
Xhin
#85
Marvalo
poptart!
Shadowwalked


Who should we go after in the night? The longer the game goes on, the more dangerous hezekiah gets. Xhin hasn't really been alive long enough to get a gauge on how well he plays late game. Right now, I'm thinking hezekiah or Redack.

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`Roxas`

An investigation was done on local resident, Chiefsonny, no evidence was found against him.


From today's paper. Sounds pretty good!

Anyone willing to disect the journalist's writing style to figure out who it is? This one looks like it might be easier to figure out than last game. I'll give it a shot in a bit.

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MajorasMask9

I caught that too. Naive/Paranoid cop maybe? Would REALLY be an ace in the hole!

The Journalist is NOT Teddy. ;)

I'm down to kill either Red or hezy. Just don't expect me to stick around when hezy's ghost throws a tantrum in the Dead thread! lol

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Wild Luxray

Scratch what I said about the cop. Redack was nice enough to point out that I misunderstood what the Journalist wrote. The Journalist investigated Chief, not the Cop.

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Wild Luxray

I've been trying to figure out who the Journalist is based on what they said, and right now I'm thinking Trever is most likely.

-His general writing style seems to match the journalist
-He never posted in the Day thread until the news article was posted.
-And

Journalist:
An investigation was done on local resident, Chiefsonny, no evidence was found against him.


Trever:
I really don't like the idea of killing innocents who have no evidence against them


Thought that phrasing seemed a bit too similar in particular.

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MajorasMask9

If things stay the way they are now at the end of this Day round, I don't think we should take Redack out yet. Since I've been the only one mentioned by name and it was Redack that did it, icing him will just bring more attention my way.

I think he has to go, but not just yet.

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chiefsonny
 

I hate to kill somebody like Hezekiah who hasn't participated much. As much as I would like to sink my claws into Redack, I agree the making him vanish would make us seem worried.

May I throw a nomination to kill Helius out? Something about this reply:

Or you could just kill me. I mean in previous games I haven't been very important to a town sided role. Hell, some of the time I have voted for myself.

Basically, if I'm a townie, you get valuable sensor information.

If I'm mafia, you get me dead.

"Win, win" I say. Only way it isn't if you ignore what Dooku is saying. It's actually kind of brilliant... well, besides sacrificing a townie.


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Wild Luxray

Trever can't be the Journalist. Roxas would have kept him from investigating last night.

Anyway, one vote for "No Kill" and the day ends. We should really start planning our night actions.

Mafia Kill:

Hooker visit:

Janitor Sweep:

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Wild Luxray

I'll need to look over the main thread to see if there is anything has been said or done that may lead me to providing my services for another townsman.

Also, if I draw too much heat that may lead to my lynching in the next day, I give you all full permission to kill and dispose of me.

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`Roxas`

While your at it, end the day. Obviously, I will hide the body of the Mafia kill.

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Wild Luxray

How about killing Shadowwalked?

And yeah, I'll get on that.

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`Roxas`

Should we hit the Cop tonight, somebody needs to claim cop in the next coming rounds and play off as though they are the Paranoid Cop (if that is the correct one I am thinking of). We can render that role useless and they will have to go off of what the Journalist says, though that would also nullify that role too (I think).

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`Roxas`

Nice.

Shadow is following his usual strategy fo keeping quiet in early rounds. Might be a good idea to take him out before he becomes a threat.

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Wild Luxray

Trever can't be the Journalist. Roxas would have kept him from investigating last night.


That was the only thing making me think he might not be the journalist, but I still think there's a good chance he is. I'm not even sure how white lancer would tell Trever he was hooker'd (if he'd be like "You were hooker'd and didn't do anything!" or "Nothing happened".) Though if he didn't get any information back from lancer, he could have played it off as him doing a successful investigation, since if he made it obvious he was hooker'd the mafia would know their identity.

I've been focusing more on potential journalists rather than other power roles, so I admittedly have nothing to contribute for nightkill suggestions.

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MajorasMask9

You may now vote on who you'd like to kill, as well as use any other night actions.

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white lancer

I think I will provide my services to Redack.

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`Roxas`

I guess Shadow is as good a kill as any.

I vote to kill Shodowwalked. I will eat(hide) the body of whomever we kill.

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Wild Luxray

I'll go with Shadowwalked for the kill.

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MajorasMask9

Kill Shadowwalked.

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`Roxas`

I guess at this point with nothing to go on it doesn't really matter as long as we reduce their number.

Kill Shadowwalked.

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chiefsonny
 

Just to make it official, I will make Shadowwalked's body vanish.

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Wild Luxray

Just want to throw this out for you guys to think about the next night round.

I went back and read all the post again and something that Helius did has me wondering if he may be the Governor. After Dooku's plan, he then offers himself up, knowing that if he got the votes to be lynched, he could void all kills. That is if he was able to avoid the MM9.

I may be way off base here, but something just don't feel right.

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chiefsonny
 

What we have so far:

  • Entertain Redack
  • 4-0 Kill Shadowwalked
  • Eat Shadowwalked's body

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    `Roxas`

    This has been one SLOW night. I think Shadow's remains are beginning to rot...

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    Wild Luxray

    As the five of you set out to take out Shadow, something very strange occurs to Wild Luxray, MajorasMask9, and Zanic. Somehow they get their targets confused and attempt to eliminate `Roxas` instead, but chief sees this happening and stands in their way, getting gunned down in an attempt to stop them.

    The three of you soon realize what you have done and a distraught Luxray hides the remains of chiefsonny, the Thug.

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    white lancer

    I'm guessing one of the quiet people who don't pay attention(Marvalo, Jo Nathan, Poptart) has a night action role, which is dragging this out.

    The 24-hour limit has just expired anyway.

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    Wild Luxray

    Shit, that just blew up in our faces! The poltergiest must have switched Roxas and Shadow.

    It is imperative that we pretend Chief was the Mafia target. We need to make them think there is still 5 of us.

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    Wild Luxray

    The poltergeist switched around chiefsonny and Shadow^

    But yeah, that sucks bad. Especially if the poltergeist roleclaims and says who he switched around. It wouldn't give them a lead as to chiefsonny being mafia, but it would clear Shadowwalked. Unless Shadowwalked is the poltergeist himself.

    However this does prove that Redack is not the poltergeist.

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    MajorasMask9

    No, he switched with Roxas. We tried to kill Roxas, and chief died instead since he is the thug.

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    Wild Luxray

    Feral that conspiracy to overthrow Roxas was supposed to be a secret!

    (Roxas is our hooker :) )

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    MajorasMask9

    OH WAIT I should have read white lancer's reply better.

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    MajorasMask9

    The last new member of our Town is the Poltergeist. He selects any two players each night, and any night actions performed on those players will be reversed (e.g., if the Poltergeist selects Players A and B and the Doctor selects Player A, the Doctor's protection will be on Player B instead). The Poltergeist is immune to the Hooker because necrophilia is ew, and also because if he weren't some scenarios could potentially arise that are too complicated for me to care to deal with.


    You're right, WL; Poltergeist chose Shadow and I.

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    `Roxas`

    ...I miss the days when I was the only WL around here...curse you, Feral! :P

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    white lancer

    And what a friggen lucky guess it was, switching the Mafia victim with a Mafia member. Makes me wonder if we have a mole in our ranks.

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    Wild Luxray

    Well in this case I take back what I said about the poltergeist knowing Shadowwalked is innocent. As far as the poltergeist knows, nothing happened to either Roxas or Shadow during the last night round, as chief's death would appear totally unrelated.

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    MajorasMask9

    Unless Shadow if the Poltergeist, which is possible. Sucks that chief had to go so soon. Now we have no security blanket. Our only hope is if the Cop is a special Cop

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    `Roxas`

    I just got back. And wth? That was some lucky guess. Dammit we lost Chief. He's a good thinker that one.

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    Zanic

    Majora, that was brilliant to question the cop's sanity, and genius to encourage them to come forward if they checked chief. It would have been a sinch to turn the town against them if it wound up being true.

    I doubt the cop is unique, though. Lancer wouldn't have used something so complex in his first game.

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    Wild Luxray

    I doubt the cop is unique, though. Lancer wouldn't have used something so complex in his first game.

    I would. {troll} {:P}

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    `Roxas`

    Idk. I wouldn't put it past my brother. But I agree, that was a brilliant move.

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    Zanic

    I have suspicions that poptart! is the 'Geist. He's the only one that would help Shadow so early on, I believe.

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    `Roxas`

    Why is that?

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    Zanic

    And I'm having trouble getting a reading off Kyon. He could be the cop, because he's suspicious of Roxas, but if he was the cop, you'd think he would've revealed. I don't know. I'm just trying to offer info.

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    Zanic

    You have a great point, Roxas. Whomever targeted you might have done so because they thought the Doc might protect you since you have a Mafia carreer as Cop. Poptart could easily hae been trying to give Shadow doctor protection.

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    Wild Luxray

    I'm normally MUCH more talkative than I have been this game, hence his suspicions of me.

    Those two are good friends, to my knowledge at least, so it would make sense for one to protect the other.

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    `Roxas`

    Yeah yeah...I realize I'm not very helpful. You guys probably needed another big thinker and not me. I'm trying my best though.

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    Zanic

    Your fine, Zanic. Better then Teddy anyway.

    I love Teddy to death, but when I was Mafia with him and Lancer, he was pretty clueless.

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    Wild Luxray

    That's true and I do like Teddy as well. He always seems confused for some reason.

    I just wish I could play this game like I did in my first 2 games or so. I've just lost some interest in this game.

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    Zanic

    WE GOT A BREAK!

    Shadow dies tonight. Acording to the Journalist, he was seen going into Red's house, so we know he is a power role. We know he isn't Mafia, the Poltergiest(who visited Roxas and Shadow) or the Arsonist(nothing burned). That only leaves the Cop or the Doctor. Either way, we get a HUGE kill. And since Red also left, he is the Cop, Doctor, Poltergiest, or a Lover.

    Also, the Journalist is someone who knows chief well, since they know his real life age, or at least that he is old.

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    Wild Luxray

    Red could also be the Journalist himself, since he IS clever enough to throw in that line about himself.

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    Wild Luxray

    I knew we shoulda killed hjim last night. I'll take a look at the post in question.

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    `Roxas`

    him*

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    `Roxas`

    And if he went out, that would mean he is most likely the cop! {lightbulb}

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    `Roxas`

    It seems as if the journalist screwed the town over in a way. Who does the journalist win with?

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    Zanic

    And the way the journalist worded the last part, "Redack left to go see someone else." makes me think that he is a lover.

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    Zanic

    Well, that certainly is possible.

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    `Roxas`

    But I think we should kill Shadow tonight. I feel like he's the cop.

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    Zanic

    I think Shadow and Redack have to be the Cop and Doctor.

    Redack said he visited someone but his night action failed. This limits him to Cop, Doctor, Lunatic, and Arsonist.

    Shadowwalked visited Redack but nothing happened, so as Feral pointed out that makes him the Cop or Doctor.

    I don't think Redack would be so quick to burn someone so early, and if he was the Lunatic he probably wouldn't know if his night action worked or not since it's a 50/50 thing, so I think it's more than likely that they're our cop/doctor duo. They can't be the journalist, because if they were they wouldn't have gotten the information they did about Shadow and Roxas entering Redack's house.

    My bet would be on Shadow being the doctor though, since Redack knows that his night action failed. If he was the doctor, I don't think he'd know for certain that his night action failed.

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    MajorasMask9

    No, that would actually be suicide!

    Red claimed his night action failed. What actions are capable of failing(not including the Arsonest who didn't act)? Only the Cop, if he gets an innocent verdict!

    If Redack is telling the truth, he is the Cop, leaving Doctor as the only possible role for Shadow.

    Either Shadowwalked or Roxas is the hooker seeing as they're the only two (other than journalist) that visited me.


    If he IS the Cop, he obviously plans to check one of them tonight, either way, confirming Roxas' guilt. If we have any chance of saving Roxas, we HAVE to kill Red tonight. Roxas should visit Shadow to prevent him from any chance of protecting Red.

    The only thing we have to worry about going wrong is the Poltergiest botching us again. But if he is smart, he will assume we will target which ever of Red's visitors ISN'T us, and switch Roxas and Shadow again, in hopes of making us kill our own.

    So yeah, we HAVE to kill Red tonight. Maybe we will get lucky and the Arsonest will deal with Shadow for us.

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    Wild Luxray

    That is, if they don't lynch Roxas today. Stupid Dragon! {:(}

    Any idea how we can save Roxas without implicating ourselves?

    I thought about claiming Cop, and Saying I got an innocent verdict on Roxas earlier on. But then Shadow and the Cop would both know I am lying and could easily out me and Roxas.

    July 9, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    I've made my counter arguments. If we kill Red tonight, I'll be able to weasel my way in to that role (as usual) and give reasons why I am either the Naive or Paranoid Cop, rendering me useless.

    July 9, 2012
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    `Roxas`

    Just tell them that you checked Cheif in night one, and got a Guilty verdict. Cheif was won of us anyway, and won't say anything.

    July 9, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    Redack (Cop?)
    Vandy
    DragonintheShadows (Vanilla?)
    White Thunder
    Trever Leingod
    Black Yoshi
    CtR Black
    Jo Nathan
    Helius
    Teddy-Son (Vanilla)
    hezekiah
    Count Dooku (Vanilla?)
    Kyon
    Xhin
    #85
    Marvalo
    poptart! (Poltergeist?)
    Shadowwalked (Doctor?)

    Anyone have an idea as to who the Journalist is?

    July 9, 2012
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    `Roxas`

    Looking at the roles we know, and concidering that the Journalist knows Chief well enough to know his age, and has sence of humor to know about it, I'm thinking Xhin, Kyon, or possibly hezy.

    July 9, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    I thought the first two for that, but didn't consider hezy. I'm inclined to think Kyon.

    July 9, 2012
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    `Roxas`

    I'm thinking Kyon as well. Had him and Trever as my two most likely to be the journalist, and if he knows Chief well enough, then it's a safe bet.

    July 9, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    Honestly right now I think Roxas's best shot at sticking around another night is to claim either Cop or Doctor in the main thread. Shadowwalked has to be one of those two, and if you claim his role before he does, it could throw suspicion toward him if he counterclaims. You'd look a bit more credible for being the first one to claim.

    I'm going to change what I said early and say that I think Shadow is the cop. He's shown in the past that his night actions usually involve poptart! or himself. If he were the doctor, I don't see any reason why he would protect Redack over poptart! or himself. If he was the cop, though, I could see him targeting poptart! on Night 0, then Redack on Night 1.

    Though I won't pursue anything in the main thread until Roxas comes back and says what he thinks we should do. Don't really like making decisions that could get other teammates killed without talking it through first.

    July 9, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    I'm going to be booked all day cleaning the house. {:?}

    I did fuck up, so I am expecting an early dismissal from the game. {:(} Redack would be the doctor, I think.

    AVENGE ME, BRETHREN!

    July 9, 2012
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    `Roxas`

    Damn this game got turned around quickly. Yeah. I'd go with Roxas claiming cop to throw Shadow off of his guard. But ultimately, it's not my decision.

    July 9, 2012
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    Zanic

    Right now the ratio of guilty/innocents 5-17, and it looks like Roxas is going to get lynched.

    There are 22 players alive which means at execution 8 players will need to vote for Roxas before I can execute someone. The town will not expect Roxas to get executed at 1/3 vote, though, so they'll probably go along with Count Dooku's plan from last round to get 17 or 18 people to vote for Roxas to get more accurate Sensor information.

    If I chose to execute Roxas at 11 votes, and we split our numbers up half and half (excluding the Lunatic), the Sensor wouldn't get very useful information.

    If you guys are OK with this, then I'd suggest we split up the votes so that two of us vote for Roxas before he hits 11, and the other votes for Roxas after he hits 11.

    July 9, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    But I don't think the poltergeist would go for the same 2 twice in a row because as far as he's concerned, it didn't work last time. No one knows that Chief was a mafia member.

    July 9, 2012
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    Zanic

    Damn, this isn't going very well for us. Two Mafia down in 2 days. I'll go ahead and vote Roxas.

    We still take out Red tonight, since he will be protecting Shadow(he revealed as Cop). Shadow we take out tomorrow night.

    July 9, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    I think only one of you should vote for me. When I hit eight votes, bring an axe to end it. It has been an honor working with you for what I did this game. Guess everybody has to die early in the game at some point. Best of luck.

    July 9, 2012
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    `Roxas`

    Damn, sorry guys! Me and Majora voted at the same time.

    Zanic, do NOT vote for Roxas. Just pretend you are to buse to get on until the round ends.

    July 9, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    Zanic should wait a while before he votes for Roxas. Didn't expect you guys to suddenly vote so I threw mine in as well.

    I'll execute when I feel that the guilty/innocent ratio is best to keep the sensor in the dark.

    July 9, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    To think that we were close to killing the Cop on Night One.

    July 9, 2012
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    `Roxas`

    So about 12 or 13 votes, I assume?

    July 9, 2012
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    `Roxas`

    Votes for Roxas:

    Dragon in the Shadows
    Redack
    hezekiah
    Vandy
    #85
    Wild Luxray
    `Roxas`
    MajorasMask9

    That's 3/8 and 1/14, disregarding the Lunatic's guilty verdict. I'll try to math out the optimal execution point, but Zanic should definitely not vote for Roxas yet.

    July 9, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    Certainly not now, Majora. 3 guilty out of 8 is a BAD ration. Maybe not even execute at all and have Zanic not vote.

    July 9, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    Optimal cutoff point would be 15 votes for Roxas, which is already the majority. That would leave a 2/14 chance for anyone voting for Roxas being mafia, and a 1/7 chance for anyone that didn't vote for Roxas by that point as being mafia. Both numbers even out.

    July 9, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    Perfect, then.

    July 9, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    Although that was under the assumption that the Lunatic counts as an innocent, which they don't. I might execute at 13 or 14 to give Zanic a slight advantage if the Lunatic is on his side of the votes, since he's our Godfather.

    July 9, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    I might just redo my caluclations again. I forgot to take into account that the town is going to expect all five of us to be alive, since they think chiefsonny was innocent. Could end up working in our favor, but we'll see.

    July 9, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    There are way to many variables to figure out the optimal cutoff point right now (confirmed innocents, confirmed guiltys, assumption of chiefsonny being innocent by the town, etc). I'm going to be keeping a close eye on the game, and depending on who votes and when they do, I'll execute Roxas when I think it's best. I really want to give Zanic a good shot seeing as he's the godfather.

    So as we've already said, Zanic should definitely not vote for Roxas until after I execute.

    July 9, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    Majora, any time would be REAL good!

    July 9, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    Going to wait for one more person to vote for Roxas before I execute, unless I see Helius or poptart! get online. Reason being that those two are suspected/confirmed to be innocent, which is what I'm paying most attention to right now. Don't want them to get into the "vote for Roxas" pool.

    Right now would be ok, but I think one more vote on Roxas from someone whose current alignment is still open for either side would be best.

    July 9, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    Screw it, I'm going to execute Roxas now (last vote for Roxas was the one from White Thunder).

    July 9, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    Ok. So I don't vote for Roxas?

    July 9, 2012
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    Zanic

    I think it'd be best if you waited until one more person votes for Roxas.

    July 9, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    I don't think he should vote for me at all. And now I just sit back with chief and see how they interpret what I left behind in the main thread.

    July 9, 2012
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    `Roxas`

    Yeah. I'm good on not voting. And Dragon is starting to get on my nerves. He keeps on pointing stuff out trying to call out suspicions.

    July 9, 2012
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    Zanic

    Dragon is frustrating to play against, but what he is doing is called "playing the game". {:P}

    July 9, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    Yeah yeah. But I wish someone would call him out on it.

    July 9, 2012
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    Zanic

    You may now vote on who you would like to kill.

    July 9, 2012
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    white lancer

    Kill Redack and dispose of his body.

    I hope we DO get the doc tonight. We need a big break.

    July 9, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    I think we should kill Kyon tonight. We had three different people think he was the Journalist without talking each other through their reasonings, meaning we all came to the same conclusion from different perspectives. Shadowwalked will most likely be targeted by the doctor anyway, and it'd be good to get rid of the Journalist before he casts suspicion on Zanic.

    I think Redack is most likely the Lunatic or Arsonist. Considering he used his action on Night 1, I think he's the Lunatic. It might be a good idea to keep him around a bit if he ends up killing innocent townies.

    July 9, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    I was thinking about just killing Redack, but now that you mention it, Kyon could be a power role. One of you two will have to convince me unless you agree.

    July 9, 2012
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    Zanic

    Redack is definitely a power role, so that's a good reason to kill him now. He's either the Doctor, the Lunatic, or the Arsonist.

    Kyon is most likely the Journalist. We have three people that feel that he is just based on the way he writes, and throw that on top of the fact that he was suspicious of Roxas before the news article was posted. Additionally, the news articles were only posted after Kyon got online.

    The Journalist has somehow had a lucky streak with rooms to check, so maybe I just want them dead out of paranoia, but getting rid of them would definitely be helpful since they're the only town-sided role that can identify Zanic as the Godfather.

    If Redack is a killing role, him killing someone might help us out. If he's the doctor, he'll either protect himself or Shadowwalked. I doubt the poltergeist would interfere with a kill on Kyon.

    My opinions anyway!

    July 9, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    Yeah. I feel like we should take Kyon out too. Even if he's not the journalist, he's figuring things out too quickly.

    July 9, 2012
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    Zanic

    I guess I'm out numbered. Kill Kyon and hide the body.

    July 10, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    When Luxray hides the body, you discover that Kyon is indeed the Journalist.

    July 10, 2012
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    white lancer

    Oh wow! Very nice! We got 4 town members in one game. Simply marvelous!

    July 10, 2012
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    Zanic

    One night I meant.

    July 10, 2012
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    Zanic

    BOOYA!!! We all got what we wanted and more! We are rid of the Journalist, The Poltergiest, and the Lovers! THAT was the break we needed!

    We take out Shadow tonight, and it's clear sailing!

    July 10, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    Aww yeah, that was a fantastic night round considering the poor start we had. Unfortunately, I assume the town will figure out that Kyon was the Journalist once they don't get any news article.



    Just curious, but shouldn't the Hooker have had priority over Redack's poltergeist switch back in Night 1? We had Roxas (Hooker) target Redack (Poltergeist), and the mafia targeted Shadowwalked (Cop). The end result, though, was Shadowwalked and Roxas switching places, and chiefsonny (Thug) dying in his place. According to the priority list, the poltergeist is the lowest, and Redack somehow knew that he was targeted by the Hooker, so he shouldn't have made Shadow and Roxas switch rooms in that case.

    Unless I'm looking at this wrong!

    July 10, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    The Poltergeist was immune to the Hooker's power. That was so that if the Poltergeist switched the Hooker's target to himself, we wouldn't wind up with a very confusing situation.

    July 10, 2012
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    white lancer

    I see I see. I guess I was just confused because Redack was aware that he was targeted by the Hooker.

    July 10, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    I think Vandy might be the Sensor. I wasn't paying attention to who was online or offline during the period of time that hezekiah asked the Sensor to PM Shadowwalked the results, but Vandy was the last person to talk before Shadow posted his findings.

    Also, based on the Sensor's results, the Lunatic has to be either Trever Leingod, Teddy Son, CtR Black, Jo Nathan, or Helius. We should take into account that the Lunatic targeted Marvalo when trying to determine who the Lunatic is. Not going to go all in-depth on this right now since I'm a bit busy :).

    Shadowwalked is going to investigate the Sensor tonight, meaning he's definitely not getting a Guilty verdict. Your guys' call as to whether or not we should risk going for Shadow (thus assuming the doctor won't protect him) or try a shot at someone else.

    July 10, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    yes yes yes yes yes @ people throwing suspicions around at everyone except us. This round is exactly the break we needed to make up for that abysmal first round.

    July 10, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    Yes. You two are pretty much in the clear for the moment. I for one am in the smaller group of voters, but I'll just play my "under-the-radar" role like always :)

    July 10, 2012
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    Zanic

    I honsetly think the town might decide to purge all of the non-voters eventually, and if they do I'll jump in and suggest we do it in order by players' numbers in the player list to prevent bias and potential mafia interference. In that case, you're on the bottom of the list (aside from Shadowwalked--the confirmed cop) and would be the last one to die.

    July 10, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    Yes. This is a pretty intense round so far. A lot of fingers being thrown around. I'll try to throw White Thunder's suspicion off of me.

    July 10, 2012
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    Zanic

    Maybe one of you wants to throw in that the article had nothing to do with me last round because I forgot to.

    July 10, 2012
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    Zanic

    Guess I picked a good day to be out all day. Gonna check out the main thread, report back here, and think of how to react to everything, before I "appear" in the main thread.

    July 11, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    I seem to have put myself in a bit of a rough spot...

    July 11, 2012
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    Zanic

    Well, we now know the Lunatic is either CtR or Trever. I'm inclined to think CtR since he is more defensive.

    Also, since Cheif's death created a non-existant third guilty party among the non-votes, and the Sensor quit, they will spend a few days on a wild goose chace(if Teddy does give sensor info in the next day, he is as good as dead). This gives us valuable time.

    Zanic, I suggest avoiding looking desperate. Let CtR do that. Try to hold them off as long as you can.

    We can hold off killing Shadow tonight, since he openly stated he is invesigating Teddy tonight. We should take a random shot at someone who voted for Roxas and hope to take out the Doctor or Arsonest(Though if he continues making such moronic decisions, he might be useful to us).

    July 11, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    I just saved your ass, Zanic. Your welcome.

    I convinced Shadow to lynch the inactive Jo Nathan, whom we know to be guilty. You or CtR will probably go the next round, and they will keep knocking off the non-voters, until they are convinced that Poptart is Godfather. Zanic, it is imperative that your role remain unknown for as long as possible, so they keep placing Poptart as Godfather. There is no telling how the town will react when they realize that there is no third Guilty party.

    They COULD have figured it out already if they realized that the Sensor results and Lancer's explanation of who shows as guilty suggest only TWO guilty parties are in said group.

    July 11, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    Friggen Vandy!

    Sorry, Zanic, I tried. I don't know if Jo, Poptart, or Teddy will actually vote, but I don't think we can save you. But, me and Majora should still have much breathing room to work with getting vengence.

    I would love to kill Shadow, but I'm still woried about the Doc.

    July 11, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    Sorry for flooding. Last post. I think we can safly say that the Doctor, Arsonest, and Governer are within this small group:

    Vandy, Helius, White Thunder, Black Yoshi, hezekiah, and #85.

    We target one of them, and we have a 50/50 chance of hitting a power role.

    July 11, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    Yeah. I have a small chance of living, but if I don't you guys need to try to hit the doc. Teddy's role probably won't provide much more information, and I think the doc will save Shadow again.

    July 11, 2012
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    Zanic

    Now I'm kind of just trying to stall.

    July 11, 2012
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    Zanic

    Neither of you should defend me. If I get lynched, they'll instantly look to you.

    July 11, 2012
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    Zanic

    Watching you is just painful! Good job with your wild bluffing, though. The best way to go down with a fight is deception. Don't straight up reveal, but continue to slip out vague fake hints of what we are thinking. But whatever you do, do NOT give away or insinuate in anyway that me and Majora are not in their target group. If anything, subtly give them the idea that they are on the right track.

    Remember, the more obvious your "hints", the less likely they will believe you.

    July 11, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    I hear you. There's no way I'm going down without a fight by revealing.

    July 11, 2012
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    Zanic

    Does anyone know any way to contact CtR/Trever/Helius in private? If so, do you think it would be smart to take a risk and try to have one of us contact them in hopes of getting cooperation with the Lunatic? Conditions being:

    1)We do not reveal ANY of our identities to the Lunatic
    2)We give the Lunatic a list of kill targets for the next few night rounds
    3)We agree to leave the Lunatic alone so long as he cooperates, going for a joint win

    The benefit to this is that we'd be almost guaranteed to get rid of a power role or two in a single night round. We could have the Lunatic target Shadowwalked, and we could target Teddy. If the doctor is on Shadowwalked, the Lunatic might kill him, otherwise he might kill Shadowwalked. Then we could kill Teddy unless the doctor is on him. Additionally, if we give him a list of nightkill targets, it would allow us to execute our nightkills without worrying about running into the Lunatic.

    Normally I wouldn't suggest this, but we have the Lunatic down to three people. I don't want any of us to go through with this without agreeing on it first, but I think it'd be in the Lunatic's interest as well as our own, and I don't think the townies would interfere.

    July 11, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    I think that is a brilliant plan. I have Trever on AIM, but he doesn't get on much.

    July 11, 2012
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    Zanic

    Ok. Don't go against me, because i still have a chance{:P}

    July 11, 2012
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    Zanic

    I'm trying not to while still trying to look like I wouldn't have a problem with it. Right now it seems like with the Sensor confusion it's possible that they might be too hesitant to go in for a lynch. They still need 6 more votes, anyway!

    The thing about the Lunatic idea is that there's still a chance that the person we contact is a Townie. That was kind of the reason I thought up the idea of a "Kill list" for the Lunatic, that tells them exactly who to kill and when. We could make the list something like:

    -Night 3: Shadowwalked
    -Night 4: hezekiah
    -Night 5: MajorasMask9
    -Night 6: Wild Luxray
    -Any other nights, and we'll IM them back again.

    That way if a townie gets ahold of it on accident, they'd see our names on the list and think we're cleared. If they are confirmed to be the Lunatic, we can get in contact with them again and tell them to change the Night 5/6 kills to something else, or we could just backstab them and nightkill the Lunatic. That would be dirty though :(.

    Still thinking about it.

    July 11, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    Teddy dies tonight, if only because I can't stand all this Sensor/statistics crap. I can't make heads or tails of it...

    Helius can't be the Lunatic. He was in the group that voted on Roxas. My money is still on CtR. Trever is much to calm to be cornered.

    I don't think the Lunatic will live much longer anyway.

    July 11, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    Helius can't be the Lunatic. He was in the group that voted on Roxas. My money is still on CtR. Trever is much to calm to be cornered.


    Actually, he's in the group that didn't. I executed Roxas after White Thunder's vote, so Helius's vote didn't count toward sensor results.

    July 11, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    We should definitely go along with hezekiah's plan. I'm pretty sure that as long as Zanic never reaches 11 votes, he can't get lynched. Right now he only has 7 of us on the list to vote for him, making it 4 votes short of a lynch. Once he realizes that it won't work out this way (if he ever does) it'd be too late for him to come up with a better vote strategy and we'd be able to take advantage of that to work it out in our favor.

    July 11, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    Ok. Hopefully I can at least last one more round. And I agree. Teddy needs to die. The whole sensor thing has given them way too much information. And I realize now that I should've voted for Roxas. Then they'd pick off the others one by one not realizing that I'm the only mafia in the bottom group.

    July 11, 2012
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    Zanic

    Actually, I'm not sure we should take out Teddy. If I last the round, perhaps we should aim for someone in the upper group. Plus, Teddy has pretty much given up anyway. If I live, he won't get information anyway. That'll leave me one more turn to plead my case seeing how I'll still have 5 guys to go against.

    July 11, 2012
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    Zanic

    I'd be fine with trying to hit the Doctor. Shadowwalked isn't really going to be much of an immediate threat hopefully, and Teddy claims he's not playing anymore.

    Here's my guess as to who could be each role right now, with the most likely being listed first:

    Lunatic: CtR Black
    Arsonist: #85, Vandy
    Doublevoter: hezekiah, White Thunder, Black Yoshi, #85
    Sensor: Teddy
    Cop: Shadowwalked

    I think Count Dooku, Dragon in the Shadows, and Helius are vanilla townies.

    Vandy, White Thunder, Black Yoshi, Trever, Jo Nathan, and poptart! could all either be Vanilla Townies, the Doctor, or the Governor.

    I don't think Jo Nathan has a night action considering how inactive he's been. The night rounds have definitely been ending before the 24 hour limit, meaning all night action roles are active.

    July 11, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    Err, for Lunatic, it should have been:

    Lunatic: CtR Black, Trever, Helius

    July 11, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    I'm pretty sure that as long as Zanic never reaches 11 votes, he can't get lynched. Right now he only has 7 of us on the list to vote for him, making it 4 votes short of a lynch. Once he realizes that it won't work out this way (if he ever does) it'd be too late for him to come up with a better vote strategy and we'd be able to take advantage of that to work it out in our favor.

    11 votes is the minimum needed to end the round early, not the minimum needed to lynch. As always, all that is required for a lynch is for one player to have a plurality of the votes (including over No Kill).

    July 11, 2012
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    white lancer

    Also, I'm open to ending the round early if people confirm their "Not Voting" selections as per hezekiah's plan, but I don't want to switch the way I've been doing things in the middle of the round without it being okay with both sides. That's why I'm giving you guys the opportunity to veto that plan and force the round to continue to the full 72 hours, if you wish.

    July 11, 2012
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    white lancer

    What happens if there is a tie between votes for me and votes for not voting (no kill)?

    July 11, 2012
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    Zanic

    If there's a tie, no one dies.

    July 11, 2012
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    white lancer

    However, Not Voting isn't really a voting option, so a tie between that and you would mean that you wind up dead. Not Voting merely indicates that you haven't cast a vote for any option.

    July 11, 2012
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    white lancer

    Aww great. That means I'm dead.

    July 11, 2012
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    Zanic

    I might as well reveal...

    July 11, 2012
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    Zanic

    Well...naa. There's a small chance that the governor could save me. Anyway, it's been fun guys. I'll be rooting for you.

    July 11, 2012
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    Zanic

    That sucks @ 11 votes minimum for ending the round. I still blame Yeano for my confusion in regard to standards; back in a game on another site that he hosted, I was trying hard to get this one guy lynched, and even though he had the most votes, he was one short of majority and Yeano let him walk. Kind of hard to keep track of what specifics will work in some games but not others!

    Sorry Zanic, expected that to work out better.

    Zanic, if you happen to know any way to contact CtR privately, I think I might want to go through with the "contact the lunatic" plan. I think there's a shot he's the Lunatic, and if he is it'd be in his best interest to help us get rid of the cop and sensor. If he's a townie, it could help clear our names if he sees us on the hitlist.

    July 11, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    Majora/Zanic/Feral, any major objections to ending the round early if everyone locks in their votes? Just want to make sure.

    July 11, 2012
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    white lancer

    Sorry. I don't know a way to contact him. But good luck to you two.

    No objections. I'm done.

    July 11, 2012
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    Zanic

    N-no objection...

    July 11, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    Actually, I'm going to execute Zanic right now. The votes work out where even if the sensor lives through this, the results will be pretty ambiguous.

    Sorry Zanic I love you :(

    July 11, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    No problem haha. I'd be dead anyway. Glad i'll be helping out with my death. Good luck!{:D}

    July 11, 2012
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    Zanic

    I'm also going to say that I don't think we should go after Teddy tonight. I chose to execute Zanic when there were 7 people who voted for Zanic, including:

    Count Dooku
    Vandy
    Black Yoshi
    Helius
    White Thunder
    MajorasMask9
    CtR Black

    The thing about this list is that if we assume either Helius or CtR are the Lunatic, it's still going to show up 2 people as being gulity. The great part about that is that half of the people switched from the previous voted/didn't vote ratio, and two people came over. If anything, this should point more suspicion to the people that were originally in "voted for Roxas group" that switched to the "not voting for Zanic" group. But yeah, numbers. It's such a headache trying to extract useful information from the Sensor results.

    That's assuming Teddy even reveals his info.

    I think we might be better off going for Shadowwalked for the kill. It's a bit risky with the doctor around, but I dunno. The doctor might be looking forward to those Sensor results a lot.



    And by Zanic I'll miss you :( I FEEL SO BAD because I didn't foresee the lovers dying, which ended up putting you in a much smaller group than intended.

    July 12, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    I hope my inactivity isn't causing any inconvienence. I have been mad busy. Will be again tomorrow.

    Anyway, better get my vote in, as so not to look suspicious.

    Later, Zanic.

    July 12, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    You may now feel free to vote on who you want to kill.

    July 12, 2012
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    white lancer

    Lancer, you just fucked up, but it IS still salvagable. Majora executed Zanic BEFORE I voted. My vote does NOT count in the Sensor data.

    July 12, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    I'm on top of that, Feral. ^_^ Already accounted for that and gave the Sensor data with CtR's vote and without yours, since Majora executed before either of you changed your votes.

    July 12, 2012
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    white lancer

    Ok then.

    I will take Majora's suggestion, and vote to kill Shadowwalked. Not that it will do any good, but I will hide Shadow's body as well.

    July 12, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    I think Shadow might be targeted by the doctor, but I think I'll go in for the kill on him.

    July 12, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    Just curious white lancer, but are you going to clarify that the Sensor results will be ones that include CtR but exclude Wild Luxray? I don't think it'd be that big of a deal, but just wondering.

    July 12, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    I did not clarify that.

    July 12, 2012
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    white lancer

    :(

    Also looks like the doctor is still alive and covering Shadow. Shoot. I figured that might have been risky.

    Though the lack of clarification could work in our favor easily, seeing as CtR wasn't the lunatic.

    July 12, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF @ Shadowwalked checking you last round. That round didn't go so good at all, you're pretty much confirmed guilty.

    We ded :(

    July 12, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    ALTHOUGH you could ask who the doctor is in the main thread. Just be like "Wow, who is the doctor anyway, we never would have thought they'd still be on Shadowwalked every night"

    The town might feel like they're in a good enough position where they don't need to keep their identities a secret anymore.

    July 12, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    On second thought that's a bad idea. Then it'd just go to WIFOM between whether or not the doctor protects themself or the cop.

    I'll take my best shot at guessing.

    Current plan of attack is to kill the Doctor, then Teddy, then Shadowwalked. Maybe in a different order, depending on what happens. If Shadow hadn't checked you our shot at winning would have been a lot higher. This game had it out for us!

    July 12, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    Lady luck hates me. Some freak stroke of bad luck always gets me. I have yet to survive a game. I am too frustrated to post in the main thread right now.

    July 12, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    Also, something I just noticed:

    This brings us to the results of yesterday's lynch. Teddy Son told me via AIM during the night round that 1 person out of the 7 who voted for Zanic was Guilty.


    I saw Shadowwalked say that he'd contact Teddy during the night round, but I thought he waited until the Day round. This should definitely be against the rules. The Sensor receives the information at night, but since Night Talk is off, they should not be allowed to discuss game-sensitive information period until the Day Round starts (which is why Night Talk is even enforced). In this case, if I were to kill Teddy tonight, the town would still get information in the Day round because they'll get it from Teddy in the Night round.

    I'd suggest holding off on giving Teddy the Sensor information until the start of the Day Round or telling him that he isn't allowed to reveal the information until the Night Round ends. My current plan was to kill Teddy and prevent his results from being posted, but if this Night Talking is going on it'd be pointless.

    July 12, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    I think the Doctor played us from Day 1. I think he pretended to be expendable to draw attention away from him. I think it's Dooku.

    July 12, 2012
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    Wild Luxray

    While it would seem fair to you, it isn't fair that it is changed this late in the game. Sorry.

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    `Roxas`

    Well it's not even an issue with changing rules, Night Talk being off means no communicating at night. That's why the thread stays locked.

    But I think I can handle this. I'll post my kill target in a bit.

    July 12, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    I let the Sensor know that he isn't allowed to give his information away in the Night.

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    `Roxas`

    If Count Dooku is the doctor then that was a brilliant move on his part. I'm definitely going to consider him being the doctor. It makes sense in retrospect; he never even voted for himself and was quick to switch plans.

    I'm going to kill Teddy Son.

    July 12, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    CURSE YOU... ZELDA!

    CURSE YOU... SAGES!

    CURSE YOU... ShadowWalked!

    July 13, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

    Execute myself {<00}

    July 13, 2012
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    MajorasMask9

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