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game 8 thread 1 night 1its murderin time

Posted July 6, 2012 by white lancer

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=Night 0

Alright, guys, welcome to the game! Here's our roster for this round:

1. Redack
2. Vandy
3. DragonintheShadows
4. White Thunder
5. `Roxas`
6. MajorasMask9
7. Trever Leingod
8. Black Yoshi
9. CtR Black
10. Jo Nathan
11. chiefsonny
12. Helius
13. Teddy-Son
14. hezekiah
15. Count Dooku
16. Kyon
17. Xhin
18. #85
19. Marvalo
20. Wild Luxray
21. poptart!
22. Zanic
23. Shadowwalked

Seems like a pretty cool group of people...it's a little crowded, though. Fortunately, a group of upstanding citizens have taken it upon themselves to solve our population problem. Here's the starting ratio--note that with the Janitor in the game, I will not update it as the game goes on.

Starting Mafia-Town-Other Ratio: [r]6[/r]-[g]16[/g]-[y]1[/y]

=[r]Mafia Roles:[/r] Godfather, Hooker, Janitor, Executioner, Thug

=[g]Town Roles:[/g]Cop, Doctor, Doublevoter, Sensor, Lover x2, Poltergeist, Arsonist, Governor

=[y]Third-Party:[/y] Journalist, [r]Lunatic[/r]

Most of those roles should seem familiar to you guys, but this time around there are a couple of new faces in the town, so let's see what their abilities are.

First of all, we have the town [b][r]Hooker[/r][/b]. The loveliest member of the Mafia, she will visit someone each night and, err, distract them from performing their night actions. She cannot visit the same person on consecutive nights--she is not faithful to one person for a long period of time like Shae; rather, she's more like Inara in that she moves from client to client with the option of going back to previous clients. Or, since she's a Mafia member, she may be more like Saffron, as her house leads down to death, and her paths to the dead. Also, +1 player point to anyone who recognizes all of those references.*

There must be something in the water, because along with the Hooker we have a secret pair of [b][g]Lovers[/g][/b]. The Lovers are members of the Town and have the ability to communicate privately in their own little thread, but they are so deeply in love that if one of them is killed, the other one dies immediately. The Lovers are considered to be visiting one another's rooms every night.**

The last new member of our Town is the [b][g]Poltergeist[/g][/b]. He selects any two players each night, and any night actions performed on those players will be reversed (e.g., if the Poltergeist selects Players A and B and the Doctor selects Player A, the Doctor's protection will be on Player B instead). The Poltergeist is immune to the Hooker because necrophilia is ew, and also because if he weren't some scenarios could potentially arise that are too complicated for me to care to deal with.

Alright, there's our roster! You have 24 hours to get your night actions in, but since this is Night 0 no kills will be made.

*I'm kidding. Probably.
**Myself, Yeano, and GTX0 accept no responsibility for any real-life relationship problems that may stem from your online Lover.

Night 0

Alright, guys, welcome to the game! Here's our roster for this round:

1. Redack
2. Vandy
3. DragonintheShadows
4. White Thunder
5. `Roxas`
6. MajorasMask9
7. Trever Leingod
8. Black Yoshi
9. CtR Black
10. Jo Nathan
11. chiefsonny
12. Helius
13. Teddy-Son
14. hezekiah
15. Count Dooku
16. Kyon
17. Xhin
18. #85
19. Marvalo
20. Wild Luxray
21. poptart!
22. Zanic
23. Shadowwalked

Seems like a pretty cool group of people...it's a little crowded, though. Fortunately, a group of upstanding citizens have taken it upon themselves to solve our population problem. Here's the starting ratio--note that with the Janitor in the game, I will not update it as the game goes on.

Starting Mafia-Town-Other Ratio: 6-16-1

Mafia Roles: Godfather, Hooker, Janitor, Executioner, Thug

Town Roles:Cop, Doctor, Doublevoter, Sensor, Lover x2, Poltergeist, Arsonist, Governor

Third-Party: Journalist, Lunatic

Most of those roles should seem familiar to you guys, but this time around there are a couple of new faces in the town, so let's see what their abilities are.

First of all, we have the town Hooker. The loveliest member of the Mafia, she will visit someone each night and, err, distract them from performing their night actions. She cannot visit the same person on consecutive nights--she is not faithful to one person for a long period of time like Shae; rather, she's more like Inara in that she moves from client to client with the option of going back to previous clients. Or, since she's a Mafia member, she may be more like Saffron, as her house leads down to death, and her paths to the dead. Also, +1 player point to anyone who recognizes all of those references.*

There must be something in the water, because along with the Hooker we have a secret pair of Lovers. The Lovers are members of the Town and have the ability to communicate privately in their own little thread, but they are so deeply in love that if one of them is killed, the other one dies immediately. The Lovers are considered to be visiting one another's rooms every night.**

The last new member of our Town is the Poltergeist. He selects any two players each night, and any night actions performed on those players will be reversed (e.g., if the Poltergeist selects Players A and B and the Doctor selects Player A, the Doctor's protection will be on Player B instead). The Poltergeist is immune to the Hooker because necrophilia is ew, and also because if he weren't some scenarios could potentially arise that are too complicated for me to care to deal with.

Alright, there's our roster! You have 24 hours to get your night actions in, but since this is Night 0 no kills will be made.

*I'm kidding. Probably.

Myself, Yeano, and GTX0 accept no responsibility for any real-life relationship problems that may stem from your online Lover.

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Like a GT newbie, I made the classic mistake of accidentally posting a bullet instead of the double asterisk on the last line. :( Anyway, Night action priority:

1. Lunatic
2. Journalist
3. Hooker (note that her power can still affect the players above her)
4. Arsonist
5. Mafia Kill
6. Cop
7. Lovers visiting one another's rooms
8. Doctor
9. Janitor hiding the body
10. Poltergeist

July 6, 2012

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white lancer

Day 1

Nothing happened in the first night, at least as far as you can tell.

1. Redack
2. Vandy
3. DragonintheShadows
4. White Thunder
5. `Roxas`
6. MajorasMask9
7. Trever Leingod
8. Black Yoshi
9. CtR Black
10. Jo Nathan
11. chiefsonny
12. Helius
13. Teddy-Son
14. hezekiah
15. Count Dooku
16. Kyon
17. Xhin
18. #85
19. Marvalo
20. Wild Luxray
21. poptart!
22. Zanic
23. Shadowwalked

Starting Mafia-Town-Other Ratio: 6-16-1

You may now begin discussions/voting. 72 hours or 14 votes for the same option.

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white lancer

I vote for Romney!

Oh, wait, wrong race! {troll}

So, should we just skip the discussion and do the unavoidable day 1 No Kill? 8p

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Wild Luxray

No info, no kill.

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Dragon in the Shadows

inb4 Roxas is cop again

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Redack

Oh darn, Redack caught me. {:P} Nah, just an ordinary townie this time. Yay, no powers!

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`Roxas`

Day 1 seems pointless.

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Zanic

Lets go

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#85

inb4 Jo Nathan is Knukles

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#85

Nah, Jo Nathan is legit. He is a veteran lurker in this site. He doesn't post much, but shows up in the recent users list all the time.

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Wild Luxray

He's not Knuckles.

Though I totally think poptart and Shadowwalked should've got the Lover role if they haven't. They're meant for each other.

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Redack

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Shadowwalked

What Dragon said.

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Black Yoshi

I have a suggestion, and it'll seem off the wall, but please hear me out and think about it.

We have a sensor this game. This gives us a huge advantage.

I would recommend we vote to lynch someone today. Even if we have no information. We need to get 18 people to vote for the SAME lynch target.

If we lynch with 18 people, 5 people will have voted for something else. The Sensor will then find out how many of the 18 people are guilty roles.

We can reverse this finding to see how many of the 5 non-voters are guilty.

If none of the 5 non-voters are guilty, we've established a pool of innocent people that we don't have to suspect for the remainder of the game.

If the 5 non-voters have a guilty party among them, we can have the cop and the arsonist whittle them away until we've weeded out the guilty party. Then we continue to establish our 'pool of innocence.'

So lets come up with a list of people that must vote, and those who won't vote to be evaluated by the sensor.

Town-aligned roles should have no problem being on the side voting to lynch, because they've got nothing to hide. Anyone that won't vote with the town is attempting to hide something, and that just narrows things down further.

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Count Dooku

It's flawed if everyone votes.

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#85

Split the list up like this:

1. Redack <--Numbers 1-18 vote to lynch me
2. Vandy
3. DragonintheShadows
4. White Thunder
5. `Roxas`
6. MajorasMask9
7. Trever Leingod
8. Black Yoshi
9. CtR Black
10. Jo Nathan
11. chiefsonny
12. Helius
13. Teddy-Son
14. hezekiah
15. Count Dooku <-- Lynch me
16. Kyon
17. Xhin
18. #85
19. Marvalo <-- Numbers 19-23 vote no kill
20. Wild Luxray
21. poptart!
22. Zanic
23. Shadowwalked

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Count Dooku

Sensor - After the end of each day round, the Sensor will find out how many anti-town roles voted for the winning option. i.e., if Yeano gets lynched, he will find out how many mafia members (and other people who appear Guilty to the Cop) voted for Yeano. If No Kill wins, no results will be posted.

Technically, it only says 'winning option'. If the Governor stops the killing, we'd still have a 'winning option', and thus the sensor should still get results, right? I can't remember if we've had a game with both Governor and Sensor present where a rule was made that prohibits this.

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Shadowwalked

That's actually an excellent point I hadn't considered. If we can get readings without killing that would be awesome.

The clear issue with this is that the Sensor will have to reveal. The doctor will have to protect the sensor, and the cop will need to lay low and not reveal until later in the game when the sensor has narrowed things down.

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Count Dooku

Like always I'll do random.

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Teddy Son

But who would we vote to lynch? We don't want to kill any of our power roles on accident.

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Zanic

Dooku suggested lynching him.

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Redack

Also as pointed out you could have the Governor prevent the killing.

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Redack

Oh. I didn't make any sense of his list.

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Zanic

If white lancer gets back to us about the governor and sensor results, and it will work out, I'd be all for Count Dooku's plan. It'd essentially be the same as a no-kill, but we'd get a good head-start on information gathering.

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MajorasMask9

I suggest the vanilla townies essentially offer their lives up to give the remainder of the town worthwhile information. Hence why I, as the all-powerful townie role, suggested you lynch me first.

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Count Dooku

I'm going to make a ruling on the use of the Governor and Sensor in tandem and say that the Sensor doesn't get results if the Governor stops the killing. It's not clear in the rules, but I think the spirit of the Sensor role is that it only gets results when there's an actual death during the day round.

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white lancer

Well, that means we'll have to kill someone, but I think it'd be worth it.

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Zanic

I'd also like some clarification on something else:

Let's say the Mafia Executioner steps in and kills the person we're choosing to lynch (they have majority vote). Would the sensor still get results in that case, considering the person was executed rather than lynched?

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MajorasMask9

The Sensor will still receive results in the case of an execution, but the results will be limited to the votes cast before the decision to execute is made. So if the Town decides to lynch Townie A and 1/3 of them vote for him, and then the Executioner instantly makes the decision to execute Townie A, then the Sensor will only get results for that first 1/3.

The rationale behind this is that the decision to Execute essentially ends the round early by determining the final result. It's similar for the Governor, since his power essentially ends the round with a No Kill.

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white lancer

Let's say the Mafia Executioner steps in and kills the person we're choosing to lynch (they have majority vote). Would the sensor still get results in that case, considering the person was executed rather than lynched?

Suppose that also applies to getting 18 votes. Technically we only need 14 votes for the same person in order to lynch. Would be only get results for the first 14 or results for all 18 votes?

All in all, the 'strategy' may not be workable because of these variables.

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Count Dooku

Suppose that also applies to getting 18 votes. Technically we only need 14 votes for the same person in order to lynch. Would be only get results for the first 14 or results for all 18 votes?

Same problem. In the past Yeano has stated that the round officially ends when the threshold for votes cast has been met and that votes cast afterward do not count, so yeah you would only get the results for the first 14.

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white lancer

But who would we vote to lynch? We don't want to kill any of our power roles on accident.

Vote to lynch me. If the govenor stops day killings I'll be fine. If not, I'm just a townie.

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Dragon in the Shadows

i saw we go with that plan. the governor can stop the lynching, so noone has to die.

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CtR Black

Well, we recently figured out that the sensor won't receive results if the governor stops killings. Now we have to figure out who we're going to lynch. So far we have two offering themselves.

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Zanic

So basically Dooku's strategy actually doesn't work anyway?

Regardless, we do actually have a few information gathering roles this game. The cop, the sensor and the journalist. The journalist doesn't have to reveal to give us their information and the other two can wait a few rounds to gather info and then reveal it (assuming they last that long).

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Redack

We might be better off trying to kill the executioner first.

As it is, even if we get 14 people to vote to lynch me, the executioner can just call it early because the executioner knows I'm innocent. We'd only get a reading on 7 or 8 people.

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Count Dooku

1. Redack
2. Vandy
3. DragonintheShadows - Townie Claim
4. White Thunder
5. `Roxas`
6. MajorasMask9
7. Trever Leingod
8. Black Yoshi
9. CtR Black
10. Jo Nathan
11. chiefsonny
12. Helius
13. Teddy-Son
14. hezekiah
15. Count Dooku - Townie Claim
16. Kyon
17. Xhin
18. #85
19. Marvalo
20. Wild Luxray
21. poptart!
22. Zanic
23. Shadowwalked

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#85

I'm always suspicious of anyone that claims townie without needing to. It's an easy claim to hide behind because there's no risk of counter claim until too many people claim.

But for now I'll no kill as usual for day 1.

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Redack

I agree that we shouldn't go along with lynching someone for the sake of Sensor results until the Executioner is dead, but we should still definitely lynch if we get Xop/Journalist info in later rounds.

The Journalist won't have anything worth reporting today and I doubt the Cop will speak up this early with anything important, so I'm going to no-kill.

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MajorasMask9

Well here we are Game 8. Time flies when you're having fun.

Boy our little town has really grown. We get a couple of Lovers and a Poltergeist.
And they get a Hooker. What the hell's up with that?

The one thing I don't see is the 24 hour min. for the Day Round. Since we don't have it, we may want to watch the vote count. There are a lot of people playing and I think at least 2 are new, so I would like to see what their comments are.

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chiefsonny

@Redack: The only reason why I revealed was because I thought the Sensor/Govenor strategy could work. The only problem being we would have needed some one with no useful role. I'm just a regular townie so I volunteered. After all the only role that I know is my own. As you know the strategy doesn't work so my reveal was wasted and not helpful to anyone.

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Dragon in the Shadows

Additional thought. Wouldn't it be funny if Xhin was the hooker? Oh, better yet Lux!

~Laughs until he can't breathe~

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Dragon in the Shadows

So the Sensor plan is a no go then? That sucks. We rarely come up with such good ideas on day one.

The only person who might have done something suspicious is Dragon. He might be bluffing about being a Townie because he assumed at the time that we would take up Dooku on his offer to sacrifice himself, and he himself would be safe and look good and innocent. It's only speculation, but it's all I got.

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Wild Luxray

If that is what you think I was doing go for it. But if I was in the mafia wouldn't I have said to lynch Dooku in case it failed? Instead I volunteered with no mention of Dooku. Had Dooku had also volunteered I would have said to try it with me first. For that matter why would I want to go ahead with such a strategy which could end with me dying that would give the town an advantage over the mafia?

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Dragon in the Shadows

I smell shenanigans

one of these days we should really kill someone on the first day to shake things up

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Vandy

Alright, all in favor of lynching Vandy, say "Aye!" {troll}

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Wild Luxray

Or you could just kill me. I mean in previous games I haven't been very important to a town sided role. Hell, some of the time I have voted for myself.

Basically, if I'm a townie, you get valuable sensor information.

If I'm mafia, you get me dead.

"Win, win" I say. Only way it isn't if you ignore what Dooku is saying. It's actually kind of brilliant... well, besides sacrificing a townie.

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Helius

I am confused.

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Teddy Son

"Though I totally think poptart and Shadowwalked should've got the Lover role if they haven't. They're meant for each other."

Sigh if only.

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poptart!

balls deep

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CtR Black

I am confused.

Welcome to the club.

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Dragon in the Shadows

Nothing to go on quite yet, but it could change.

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`Roxas`

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Kyon

Your Daily News Column, written by the town Journalist

Mafia comes to town.

The town is eerily quiet tonight as the mafia just moved in. Citizens were advised to stay indoors.

Unfortunately the mafia has blended itself in with the town.

"I would recommend we vote to lynch someone today." Count Dooku said, "Even if we have no information. We need to get 18 people to vote for the SAME lynch target. "

"One of these days we should really kill someone on the first day to shake things up." Vandy said.

An investigation was done on local resident, Chiefsonny, no evidence was found against him.

The town meets today to vote on who to lynch. Due to lack of information, it is expected to be a "no kill".

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white lancer

I really don't like the idea of killing innocents who have no evidence against them, despite the fact we would get useful information. Especially on Day 1. Let's wait for Day 2 at least before going for a kill.

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Trever Leingod

Alright, I'm onboard the no-kill train.

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Count Dooku

Fine... it makes no difference if it is Day 1 or Day 2 though... other than Night Actions 1 can be done. Someone winds up dead usually anyway.

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Helius

I guess Chief isn't Mafia...

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Wild Luxray

I guess Chief isn't Mafia...

How do you figure? I see no evidence one way or the other.

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Redack

So we don't trust what the journalist says?

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Kyon

So we don't trust what the journalist says?

The journalist only gets information if a night action is carried out.

1. The mafia couldn't kill anyone last night so the journalist couldn't get luckily get their target to get in for that way.
2. There are a few mafia roles that do not have night actions, therefore chief could be one of those.

All the journalist has told us so far is that chief wasn't involved in any night actions during Night 0.

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Redack

correction:

to get info that way.

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Redack

meh its full of typos but you can work out what I meant to say...

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Redack

My mistake. I thought the Journalist was implying that the cop got an innocent verdict on Chief. I should have read that better.

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Wild Luxray

Annnnnnnd I learned something new about this game.

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Kyon

Yes, you should have {<00}

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Redack

Anything interesting going on?

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Teddy Son

Anything interesting going on?

Read the post.

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Redack

I've read most of it. But I am too lazy too read all of it to know what is going on.

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Teddy Son

But is the game not all about observing what people say? If you're relying on other people to tell you what's going on, you could easily be told lies by a mafia member and thus do what they want.

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Redack

To be honest.

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Kyon

Well then I guess I'll check once a wake up a little more.

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Teddy Son

@Your Daily News Column:

An investigation was done on local resident, Chiefsonny, no evidence was found against him.

investigation

By who?

@Redack:

All the journalist has told us so far is that chief wasn't involved in any night actions during Night 0.

Where in the news article is that? Is there a page 2.

Sounds to me like the Journalist and Redack were at the town bar drinking last night. Redack is that bar open during the day, I'm getting a little dry.

Anyway with the first 24 hours just about over, how many people have not posted yet?

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chiefsonny

By who?

We're not supposed to know.

Where in the news article is that? Is there a page 2. Sounds to me like the Journalist and Redack were at the town bar drinking last night.

Redack is actually just figuring this out from the rules. The Journalist role details give the impression the role can only report something scandalous if the selected person actually does a night action.

Certainly not a reason to be suspicious of chiefsonny, though. Out of 23 people, only 2 power-roled people could have done something last night (cop and journalist) if I recall Night 0 actions right.

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Trever Leingod

Well, make that 4 if you count the Lovers visiting each other...

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Trever Leingod

Just a heads up to the 3 that voted for Not voting (Kyon, CTR, Roxas) not voting is not the same as no kill.

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#85

Interesting....

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Teddy Son

I believe the Hooker would have been able to do her night action to potentially block the cop, doctor, or journalist (obviously didn't block journalist)

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Count Dooku

That being said, Dooku is definitely the Hooker, everyone {:P}

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Trever Leingod

That would be funny Dooku wanted us to have to Hooker in this game and he is the Hooker?

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Teddy Son

That being said, Dooku is definitely the Hooker, everyone

Don't try to slut shame me you privileged white male

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Count Dooku

Hey, keep it in that dingy club you guys call Jedi Sith, will you?

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Wild Luxray

fine.

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Kyon

Where in the news article is that? Is there a page 2.

Sounds to me like the Journalist and Redack were at the town bar drinking last night. Redack is that bar open during the day, I'm getting a little dry.

I read the role's details and also looked at last game's journalist post after the game ended and all posts become unlocked. The journalist only gets info if their target is targeted by a night action or uses a night action. For example last game Morrigan investigated (using the same word as our journalist has) a player that died that night, Yeano used the draw feature to randomly select a mafia member to reveal to the journalist.

In summary, I wasn't suggesting we all jump on you. I was pointing out the fact that you're not ruled out.

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Redack

LAST VOTE WARNING!!!

Next vote for "No Kill" ends the day.

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Wild Luxray

I'd like for the day to end, we need more info from the journalist and cop. At the moment all I have are one or two suspicions but nothing strong enough to go on.

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Redack

Yes, I knew what I was voting this morning, #85. Should be interesting to see how tonight's actions go for both the town and the Mafia.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be returning to TCTNW (The Castle That Never Was, for you non-Kingdom Hearts fans).

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`Roxas`

And I forgot to change my vote.

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`Roxas`

Then the round is over.

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Wild Luxray

Night 1

The Town elected not to kill anyone on the first day. Shocker, huh?

1. Redack
2. Vandy
3. DragonintheShadows
4. White Thunder
5. `Roxas`
6. MajorasMask9
7. Trever Leingod
8. Black Yoshi
9. CtR Black
10. Jo Nathan
11. chiefsonny
12. Helius
13. Teddy-Son
14. hezekiah
15. Count Dooku
16. Kyon
17. Xhin
18. #85
19. Marvalo
20. Wild Luxray
21. poptart!
22. Zanic
23. Shadowwalked

Starting Mafia-Town-Other Ratio: 6-16-1

24 hours to get your night actions in!

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