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game 8 thread 4 night 4 can the last survive the night

Posted July 12, 2012 by `Roxas`

Smoke fills the streets as the town awakes in the morning. A fire has erupted, and a fiery figure runs from the house. The figure collapses in a puddle. When the town turns over the body, the Lunatic is discovered to have died. Farewell, Trever Leingod.

1. Redack - Poltergeist
2. Vandy
3. Dragon in the Shadows
4. White Thunder
5. `Roxas` - Hooker
6. MajorasMask9
7. Trever Leingod - Lunatic
8. Black Yoshi
9. CtR Black
10. Jo Nathan
11. chiefsonny - ???
12. Helius
13. Teddy Son
14. hezekiah
15. Count Dooku
16. Kyon - ???
17. Xhin - Lover
18. #85
19. Marvalo - Lover
20. Wild Luxray
21. poptart!
22. Zanic - Godfather
23. Shadowwalked

Starting Mafia-Town-Other Ratio: 6-16-1

You may deliberate and vote--72 hours or 9 votes for the same option.

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Cop and Sensor are still alive? Impossible. And this thread is a bit messed up. There is no voting options.

July 12, 2012
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Helius

Should be all fixed now. More coming soon.

July 12, 2012
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hezekiah

I don't have access to the voting table (or at least I don't think so).

And that actually reminded me (knew I was forgetting something).

Shadowwalked came to the town in the morning stitched up across his face. It appeared that he was cut across the face multiple times.

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`Roxas`

Thank you for that, hezekiah.

July 12, 2012
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`Roxas`

I see voting options :)

Trever was the lunatic which means he was one of the 3 "Guilty" people who didn't vote for Roxas two rounds ago. Zanic was as well, meaning that out of Helius, CtR, and Jo Nathan, one of them has to be a mafia member.

If the Teddy comes back and posts information, it could help us determine which one is the mafia member seeing as Helius switched to the side that voted for Zanic.

Going to wait for Cop/Sensor info before voting.

July 12, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Results are in! Out of the seven people who voted last night, one of them are guilty.

#85

Black Yoshi

Majoras Mask

Helius

White Thunder

Vandy

Count Dooku

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The arsonist kindly took out the lunatic for us.

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And as for my personal gift to the team, my investigation last night showed that Wild Luxray is guilty.

My recommendation today is that we lynch Wild Luxray, and we deduce who out of the seven is guilty.

July 12, 2012
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Shadowwalked

If Teddy^

July 12, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Couldn't vote as I was typing out my message, but now I can!

July 12, 2012
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Shadowwalked

appears the doc is still with us. Why would the mafia target Shadowwalked when we have a claimed cop and sensor?

hopefully we can get Teddy to provide us with the sensor info, though he seemed to be done with the game yesterday

July 12, 2012
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Vandy

@Shadowwalked: I looked over last rounds votes, and your list is a bit messed up. #85 didn't vote for Zanic, but Feral did.

Count Dooku
Vandy
Black Yoshi
Helius
White Thunder
MajorasMask9
Wild Luxray

^These were the people who voted for Zanic last round.

July 12, 2012
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MajorasMask9

I really can't say anything in regards to me being guilty, but I did mention that it was a mistake to take me off the suspicious list. :/

As far as the group, if they are veteran players, any one of us have been excellent Mafioso players in past games. It will make it more difficult to deduce who is the guilty amongst us.

July 12, 2012
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Helius

oh, Shadowwalked was the cop. My mistake

today's vote seems like a no-brainer

July 12, 2012
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Vandy

Why would the mafia target Shadowwalked when we have a claimed cop and sensor?

My guess is that the mafia figured that the Doctor would try to protect Teddy so that more sensor information could be revealed, and tried to off me. Luckily enough, I've still got the Doc watching my back.

July 12, 2012
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Shadowwalked

Oh god you guys are fast. I've got a big post coming soon, almost done with it.

July 12, 2012
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hezekiah

@Shadowwalked: I looked over last rounds votes, and your list is a bit messed up. #85 didn't vote for Zanic, but Feral did.

Oh, my bad. I missed the part where he changed his vote to 'not voting'.

July 12, 2012
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Shadowwalked

So we've got another big day ahead of us here. We lost the Lunatic, which isn't necessarily good or bad. It is interesting that the Mafia didn't have a kill as well. Perhaps they chose to Janitor one of their own, in case the Arsonist or Lunatic had managed a kill on one of them.

Now seems like a good time to bring up the fact that there are only 2 Guilty people left, namely the Janitor and Executioner. The Thug must have been Chiefsonny, as a different mafia member was lynched during Day 2.

With that in mind, that now means that we know that the following people are Innocent: Teddy Son, CtR Black, Jo Nathan, poptart, Shadowwalked. We know this because 3 guilty roles voted for Roxas at a time when a total of 5 existed. That left 2 in the non-voting group, which are now known to have been Trever Leingod (Lunatic) and Zanic (Godfather).

This brings us to the results of yesterday's lynch. Teddy Son told me via AIM during the night round that 1 person out of the 7 who voted for Zanic was Guilty. This means one of Vandy, MajorasMask9, Count Dooku, White Thunder, Helius and Black Yoshi is Guilty, as well as one of Dragon in the Shadows, #85, hezekiah and Wild Luxray.

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hezekiah

Uhh...oooookaaay, there go my suspicions against Poptart -- Zanic was the Godfather all along. Damn, didn't see that one coming. And as for Shadow's investigation of Feral, a Guilty verdict is reason enough to vote, so...

July 12, 2012
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Black Yoshi

Out of people who voted for Zanic, one was guilty:

Wild Luxray (Wild Luxray being guilty)

Black Yoshi

Majoras Mask

Helius

White Thunder

Vandy

Count Dooku

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Non-Roxas Group (One Guilty):

CtR Black

Jo Nathan

Trever Leingod (Trever: Lunatic)

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Everyone Else (One Guilty):

Hezekiah

#85

Dragon in the Shadows

I believe this list is right, but I'd like others to check it.

July 12, 2012
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Shadowwalked

I want some clarification from white lancer or Roxas about the thug role. IIRC, it was changed to where the thug did not have to automatically die if a mafioso gets lynched at least, I swear I remember Yeano changing this after the first game it was used). If this was not changed, then I think it would be safe to say that chiefsonny was the thug as hezekiah pointed out, as Roxas was able to get lynched without interference. If this was not changed, and the lynches are not automatic, then that's a totally different story.

July 12, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Out of people who voted for Zanic, one was guilty:
Wild Luxray (Wild Luxray being guilty)


So basically, this is a list of confirmed innocents:

Black Yoshi
Majoras Mask
Helius
White Thunder
Vandy
Count Dooku

Possibly CtR Black and Jo Nathan if the thug doesn't have to automatically die during a lynch. I still find it hard to believe they would have killed their thug on Night 1.

July 12, 2012
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MajorasMask9

I've checked over it myself and agree with Shadow's analysis. The last mafioso is either me, Dragon or #85. As such, we simply need exactly 1 of them to vote for Wild Luxray, which will give the Sensor the information needed to guarantee a win by the end of Day 5. As long as one of Shadowwalked (Cop) and Teddy Son (Sensor) survives, we can lynch to victory tomorrow. There's also the possibility of the Arsonist receiving the Sensor's info and targeting that person, such as to end the game during Night 4.

Holding my vote for now, so we can make sure that DitS or #85 casts a vote.

July 12, 2012
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hezekiah

The Thug role (or rather, the equivalent to the Thug role) was changed for Trever's game, but not for Yeano's. The Thug still dies for its fellow Mafia member.

July 12, 2012
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white lancer

if we have narrowed it down to hezekiah, 85 and Dragon in the Shadows, then I would go with 85

hezekiah has been aiding our investigation all along

Dragon in the Shadows was all for lynching Zanic last yesterday

85 is the only one without a good defense case

July 12, 2012
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Vandy

There are a few different ways the Thug could've ended up dead. I'm fairly confident that my interpretation is accurate:

Thug - The Thug will take a beating for the Mafia. In fact, if a member of the Mafia is targeted to be killed during a night round, the Thug will die instead! Additionally, the Thug can choose to lynch himself instead of someone else, but will always be lynched for a mafia member. Since this role is supposed to die for a Mafia member, this player earns +1 points if he dies to save a Mafia member.


Relevant portion: "[T]he Thug[...] will always be lynched for a mafia member."


And now white lancer has confirmed this. As I thought.

July 12, 2012
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hezekiah

Alright, so we have the last mafia member down to three people!

We should still have those three split up the votes for sensor information. Maybe have Dragon in the Shadows and hezekiah vote while having #85 not vote.

July 12, 2012
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MajorasMask9

I wanted to vote for Zanic but switched my vote to work with you guys. I'll vote for Lux or no vote, whichever you guys think is better and hopefully then you guys can trust me.

July 12, 2012
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#85

I'll certainly cast a vote for Wild Luxray, to help expedite the round. 9 votes are required, we're currently at 3. I want to make sure that either Dragon in the Shadows or #85 votes as well, because I know one and only one of them is a mafia member. Ideally we'll have the Cop investigate one of the people from the so-called suspicious pool who votes the same way as another, with the Sensor sharing his data ASAP. The combination of the two would guarantee us the proper lynch tomorrow, if you don't trust me as being town-sided.

July 12, 2012
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hezekiah

#85, please cast a vote for Wild Luxray. Then we can get people who are known to be innocent to fill in the rest of the votes and end the round, not having to worry about "changing the rules" like last round.

July 12, 2012
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hezekiah

Alright

Shadow should check Dragon or CTR

July 12, 2012
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#85

CtR is known to be innocent, based on 2 guilty people from the Not Roxas group already having been killed.

July 12, 2012
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hezekiah

And I'll cast my vote.

July 12, 2012
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Helius

Guess I need to go back to the Roxas vote and re read

July 12, 2012
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#85

Oh yeah

July 12, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Here's a short version:

13 people voted for Roxas out of 22 total, meaning 9 did not. 3 that voted were guilty, meaning two that didn't vote are guilty. We know the two guilty who didn't vote are Zanic (Godfather) and Trever (Lunatic). Therefore the others who didn't vote for Roxas are known to be innocent.

Similarly, we had 7 people vote for Zanic. In addition to those known above to be innocent, there were 3 others: you, me and Dragon. There's one guilty in the voting group, which we know (from Shadow's Cop investigation) to be Wild Luxray. Now we're figuring out who the guilty is in the Not Zanic group. Voting like this will tell the sensor if it's DitS or not, and then Shadow can investigate one of us to find out for sure.

Huh, not all that short after all...

July 12, 2012
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hezekiah

I'm the governor, again. so that makes jo nathan guilty by yalls reasoning.

July 12, 2012
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CtR Black

CtR, please cast a vote for Wild Luxray.

July 12, 2012
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hezekiah

Or you're one of the Mafia pretending to be the Governor so that we end up lynching one of our own...

July 12, 2012
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Black Yoshi

Glad to see we have a BIG pool of innocent people now. I knew something was up with Wild Luxray.

July 12, 2012
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Count Dooku

I'm the governor, again. so that makes jo nathan guilty by yalls reasoning.

Out of your group, Trever was guilty. You and Jo should both be innocent.

July 12, 2012
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Shadowwalked

Well the round's over now, since the Double Voter is one of the 8 who has voted for Wild Luxray.

July 12, 2012
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hezekiah



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CtR Black

10 votes is 1 more than needed to end the round. But I guess if it turns out that the DV isn't one of 'em, now we know the round's over.

July 12, 2012
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hezekiah

Whomever the Doctor is, I hate you.

I have nothing else to say.

July 12, 2012
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Wild Luxray

Whomever the Doctor is, I hate you.

I have nothing else to say.

-Fits the noose over your head, pulls the lever to drop you-

July 12, 2012
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Count Dooku

There was no questioning the Cop's verdict. From an old tree swayed the Janitor's, Wild Luxray, lifeless body.

1. Redack - Poltergeist
2. Vandy
3. Dragon in the Shadows
4. White Thunder
5. `Roxas` - Hooker
6. MajorasMask9
7. Trever Leingod - Lunatic
8. Black Yoshi
9. CtR Black
10. Jo Nathan
11. chiefsonny - ???
12. Helius
13. Teddy Son
14. hezekiah
15. Count Dooku
16. Kyon - ???
17. Xhin - Lover
18. #85
19. Marvalo - Lover
20. Wild Luxray - Janitor
21. poptart!
22. Zanic - Godfather
23. Shadowwalked

Starting Mafia-Town-Other Ratio: 6-16-1

Night people, you have 24 hours to get your actions submitted.

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`Roxas`

I don't mind being investigated. I offered a while ago. But that is up to Shadow. Voting now.

July 12, 2012
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Dragon in the Shadows

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