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game ix thread 4 night 4 the town sleeps soundly and weeps profoundly

Posted July 31, 2012 by Yeano

Day 4

As the town convened, they noticed that `Roxas` was not there.

Roster

1. chiefsonny
2. Dragon in the Shadows
3. Redack -- Silencer
4. Count Dooku
5. hezekiah
6. Shadowwalked -- ???
7. Kyon
8. Feral
9. Black Yoshi
10. Trever Leingod
11. White Thunder
12. `Roxas` -- ???
13. white lancer -- Got targeted in Night 2 but was saved.
14. CtR Black
15. #85 -- Claimed Cop
16. Zanic
17. MajorasMask9
18. 9

Starting Mafia-Town Ratio: 5-13
Total living players: 15

Mafia Roles: Godfather, Silencer, Executioner, Janitor, Mafioso
Town Roles: Townie, Double-Voter, Cop, Doctor, Sniper, Governor, Fisherman, Gambler, Martyr, Spy

Whatever conditions Xhin usually gives you for a day round apply here.

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Yeano <3

July 31, 2012
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MajorasMask9

nuked the town while you were gone. Luckily it was deserted at the time. Don't leave us again.

(look)

July 31, 2012
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Dragon in the Shadows

Okay, didn't see that coming. And there go my suspicions about Roxas -- clearly he was the Mafia's target (or at least the Janitor's). We'll have to see how this round progresses.

July 31, 2012
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Black Yoshi

Guess that leaves us with 3 questions:
1) Who would have reason to want Roxas dead?
2) Who did #85 investigate?
3) Is he even capable of investigation?

August 1, 2012
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hezekiah

Short and sweet. lol

I think Roxas was a power role, either the Sniper, Spy, or Martyr. When Majora voted for him, he said that we DIDN'T want to kill him, matter-of-factly. He was obviously telling the truth.

I actually have most of the town's power roles figured out, though I can't really say anything without alerting the Mafia. That being said, I have very few suspicions about Mafia members.

My first suspicion is Dragon. Could be nothing, but his reaction to when I voted for 9 last round makes me think I might have hit on an inactive Mafioso, and caused another Mafioso to startle.

No acusing him, but keep an eye on Majora. His so called suspicion of Roxas could have been an attempt to turn us against one of our power roles, if the Mafia figured out something we didn't.

[blue]Feral votes for Dragon in the Shadow[/blue]

August 1, 2012
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Feral

Sorry, got Majora and Yoshi mixed up. Disreguard the last paragraph then.

August 1, 2012
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Feral

And sorry for the relatively low amount of posts I've been making... didn't have a ton of time to keep up on the goings-on. Should be more available for the rest of the game now.

August 1, 2012
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hezekiah

know it's funny. When I want to get rid of an inactive player it's taboo and everyone wants to lynch me. When some one else does it, no one says anything and when I do suddenly I must have a motive. He hasn't posted anything at all. His role could be mafia or it could be a town role. We just don't know. That said I'm voting for the one truely suspicious person in this game. Feral.

in the Shadows votes for Feral

August 1, 2012
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Dragon in the Shadows

Seems to me like I struck a nerve!

You figure, eventually one of these inactive players would wind up Mafia sooner or later.

Last time I was Mafia, I was so obvious with my half-hearted replies that I gave myself away to those in the dead thread by day 2. But hey, if you guys want to lynch me to feel better, be my guest. I'm just a plain townie. Nothing to gain or lose with my death really.

August 1, 2012
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Feral

just voted for him because you had no idea who to vote for. Most people would rather go with a No Kill than off a possible townie.

I honestly feel clueless... Because he likley won't retaliate and is as good a guess as any at this point... - Sunday, Jul 29, 2012 -- 9:17pm


the second part is rather interesting. How do you know he wouldn't retaliate? If he was mafia and was gonna be lynched wouldn't they have retailated on his behalf? If so why didn't you get targeted that night? It's because you know he's not in the mafia so no one would retaliate for him. And that also means that you are mafia.

August 1, 2012
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Dragon in the Shadows

@Feral: The only reason I was suspicious of Roxas in the first place was that he was going by intuition, and the last couple of times someone has gone by intuition, that person was a Mafia member trying to screw us over. Sorry, but I'm not taking any chances here.

August 1, 2012
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Black Yoshi

He wouldn't retaliate. But a fellow Mafia would, just as you said. Now why don't we all go back and see who was the first to defend him, almost IMMIDIATLY after I voted...oh, right, it was YOU.

As I said, I have no problem if the town wants to sacrifice me. When they see that I am an innocent nobody, they will know who to target.

August 1, 2012
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Feral

like a true mafioso. Defelect and then attack.

August 1, 2012
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Dragon in the Shadows

That was just a very basic theory, Yoshi. Likely Roxas' own comment in reply to you got him killed.

August 1, 2012
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Feral

Enough of this. I did lie about being a worthless townie. But I'm not Mafia either. I am the Martyr. During the last day round end, Xhin got caught up in his hosting, and accidentally told me who the Doctor is in my thread. I protected them last night, but they weren't targeted. On night one, I protected myself. On night two, I protected Chief.

August 1, 2012
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Feral

I investigated Yoshi and he was innocent, sorry guys not getting lucky like I did with my first pick

August 1, 2012
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#85

I can get on board for voting for Dragon, I was debating between Dragon and Yoshi.

#85 votes for Dragon

August 1, 2012
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#85

Oh yay, Mafia drama going on o_0 Lol. Just the way both Dragon and Feral are speaking, I doubt the guilt of both - they both lack the panicked behavior of a guilty member.

I dunno why but the way 85 just spoke up was really weird... dunno why exactly.

August 1, 2012
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Noctis Lucis Caelum

My guess was that Dragon was the DV since he counted 9 votes last round when I believe there were only 8. I'll post more later but I think we need to seriously consider a mass role-reveal especially since our strongest roles are already out in the open.

August 1, 2012
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white lancer

Only thing lancer...the mafia could take a role off someone they already got.

August 1, 2012
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#85

1. chiefsonny - Townie Claim
2. Dragon in the Shadows
4. Count Dooku
5. hezekiah
7. Kyon
8. Feral - Martyr Claim
9. Black Yoshi - Innocent by Cop Check
10. Trever Leingod
11. White Thunder - Innocent by Cop Check
13. white lancer --
14. CtR Black
15. #85 -- Claimed Cop
16. Zanic
17. MajorasMask9
18. 9

This is who is left so far. Correct me If I am wrong about anything.

Double-Voter, Cop, Doctor, Sniper, Governor, Fisherman, Gambler, Martyr, Spy

It is possible 2 of these roles are no longer with us. Although I am the cop.

August 1, 2012
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#85

And is 9 a real person? lol, he wasnt on the voting tally board.

August 1, 2012
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#85

Sorry about the voting thing not being up. I swear I had changed it to this thread.

August 1, 2012
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Yeano

i dont remember 9 posting. so

August 1, 2012
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CtR Black

I find it odd that Rox was targeted when he was being suspected by us yesterday. Normally the Mafia likes to leave those people up and hope they get lynched. They must have had a specific reason for killing him, either that or they want us to believe that he was on to something.

Lots of suspicions. It might be time to start offing people because there are a few who are certainly acting strange. I will hold my vote for now but I recommend we take someone out today.

August 1, 2012
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White Thunder

I was actually suspicious of Roxas...

August 1, 2012
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#85

Thanks to Yeano, I was gone most of the day today so couldn't get around to hosting. Fortunately I left a note for him beforehand.

Feral, I thought about deleting my post today, but thinking about it, the amount of luck it would take for that person to NOT be the doctor would be insane.

Also, is there a problem with the voting system? I can't see the votes easily in my panel if you guys don't use it, so the day round will be a lot harder to end.

As of now, 67 hours or 8 votes for the same option. 5 votes for an executioner kill.

August 1, 2012
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Xhin
Sky's the limit

Only thing lancer...the mafia could take a role off someone they already got.

That's true, but we would still be able to narrow down possible Mafia members. This is also why I mentioned this yesterday and I wish I had pushed for it more because with only one body hidden the Janitor wouldn't have given the Mafia much help. Given that the 'power roles' are already out in the open, I'm going to recommend that everybody else reveal as well. As is probably pretty obvious by now, I am the Doctor.

I am a bit confused as to why the Mafia didn't take a shot at me or #85 last night, but I see two distinct possibilities. The first is that they're trying to implicate #85 as Mafia, and the second is that #85 actually is Mafia and is playing us. We can't be 100% sure but if he's not Mafia they can't afford to leave him alive much longer, especially with Doctor/Martyr support. I think a role reveal by the town is the best way to speed up the investigative process and I expect it'll also help us figure out if we can trust #85 in a quicker amount of time. And if we're going to do a role reveal we really need to do it now before the Janitor makes things way more uncertain.

As a side note, why protect Chief, Feral? Seems like a random person to risk your life for especially since iirc he had claimed vanilla Townie at that point and we had a Cop claim.

August 1, 2012
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white lancer

By admitting that he revealed the Doctor to me, Xhin confirmed that I was telling the truth about being the Martyr, and in turn am 100% innosent.

Lancer, I protected Chief because I thought he might be targeted based on what I knew that night.

August 1, 2012
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Feral

guess it's time to reveal. I'm the Spy. And I refuse to play this little side game with Feral any longer.

August 1, 2012
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Dragon in the Shadows

Handy Hint: If you claim a role with night actions, you should reveal what night actions you made and what the results were if applicable!

August 1, 2012
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MajorasMask9

of the posts I got were really useful. There were mostly off topic. I think they did that so I wouldn't get any useful information. But last night I got this:

Tonight lets target the doctor. He should be protecting the doctor by now.


only reason why I didn't bring this up earlier was that they may have come up with a different strategy or it could have been a bluff to throw us on the wrong track.

August 1, 2012
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Dragon in the Shadows

that from the Godfather by the way.

August 1, 2012
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Dragon in the Shadows

Post everything. Everything could end up being useful. Just look at how in the past games with Journalists, people ended up figuring them out by their writing style.

Although that message you posted definitely sounds faked. Vague for a night round reply and it doesn't even make sense. I'm not sure when Xhin decides to pick "the last post" from the mafia thread, but I assumed it meant "the last reply by that role at the end of the night round," and that isn't something they'd say after voting.

August 1, 2012
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MajorasMask9

but I gotta go to work in a few minutes so I'll post everything I have when I get back.

August 1, 2012
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Dragon in the Shadows

Unless the Mafia are disguising their writing styles to throw us off their trail, like when we were playing with the Voodoo Lady and we were all misspelling everything and making a mockery of the English language all in the name of saving our asses from her hex, and she was disguising her own writing style to throw us off her trail (sorry about the choice of pronoun). Perhaps Dragon could try another role tonight, and compare that role's last post to the Godfather's from last night round, just to see if my theory holds any merit.

In any case, we can't be too careful here. As MAjora said, Dragon, post whatever you can, even if it turns out the Mafia are disguising their writing styles. For now, though, I think my suspicions have turned unto CtR Black, as Dragon's revealed post almost matches his writing style more than anyone else here. Not to mention that the last couple of times he's been Mafia, his contributions to the main thread have consisted purely of random, almost nonsensical comments which provide almost no backing reason for his votes, most of which come in the middle of our discussions and have nothing whatsoever to do with what we're talking about.

August 1, 2012
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Black Yoshi

Observation- Dooku has been unusually quiet this game. Any of you RPers see him around JS latly?

August 1, 2012
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Feral

Guess I was wrong about Dragon, then...

August 1, 2012
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Feral

By who has claimed and who hasn't, if we vote for one of the people who havent yet claimed, we have about a 50% chance at taking out a mafia, if everyone is telling the truth. I like those odds, what do you guys think?

August 1, 2012
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#85

Well, the people who have already received votes, and whom you haven't found innocent and whom haven't claimed are 9 and CtR.

There are 18 total players. 2 Haven't voted at all this game, and are absent from the round tallies. Shadow died in night 1. The other is the inactive 9.

Which way shall we go?

August 1, 2012
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Feral

Hell, gonna go back to my original vote from last round. I don't think our Spy will complain this time.

August 1, 2012
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Feral

The problem with claiming- they're two dead people and we dont know their roles, but the mafia do.

August 1, 2012
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CtR Black

honestly 85 is still a lil suspicious to me. he's being really agressive for a cop role. i thought a cop would be more for waiting and checking at night

August 1, 2012
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CtR Black

The problem with claiming- they're two dead people and we dont know their roles, but the mafia do.

the remaining mafia are going to be more than happy to role claim because of this.

August 1, 2012
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CtR Black

honestly 85 is still a lil suspicious to me. he's being really agressive for a cop role. i thought a cop would be more for waiting and checking at night

Trying to keep us ahead of the game since my checks getting anything.

August 1, 2012
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#85

Yeah, I agree with CtR that an all-out role claim might not be the best of ideas. If we didn't have to deal with the damn Janitor, it'd be a simpler decision to do so.

I looked back through the last day round to see what sort of thoughts Roxas was having... he seemed to come out pretty strong against #85, so that makes me more inclined to believe Redack's tale about mafia in-fighting of whatever the fuck it is that happened.

August 1, 2012
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hezekiah

Interesting how a move is being made against me by the non role claimers. Maybe the mafia are showing themselves?

Only way I am mafia is if the mafias first target was the cop, and I sacrificed the silencer, arguably the mafias most important role. I guess possible, but doesn't seem likely.

August 1, 2012
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#85

Like I said, I just don't think a mass roleclaim here will get us enough information to be worth it. If you can convince me otherwise, then sure I'll share my role with the group. But with what's happened so far in the game, it doesn't feel like a worthwhile play.

August 1, 2012
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hezekiah

I looked back through the last day round to see what sort of thoughts Roxas was having... he seemed to come out pretty strong against #85, so that makes me more inclined to believe Redack's tale about mafia in-fighting of whatever the fuck it is that happened.


Basing decisions on mafia kills isn't a good idea this early. The mafia doesn't need to have a reason for killing an idividual person, especially when a doctor and cop are in play; there priority would be killing the doctor then the cop. However, it becomes suspicious when people start to play it off as "the mafia must have had a reason for killing this person," and try to get people to look for that reason. When done by a member of the mafia, that'll usually just get people to be misguided.

#85 claimed cop after one person died. The odds of Shadow being cop, being killed on the first night, then #85 claiming cop immediately and gunning for another member of the mafia right after the start of the day round are extremely low. His responses to accusations strike me as legitimate. I find it very hard to believe he's mafia and I think it's odd people are still considering it a possibility.

So if you want my input: "Who would have reason to want Roxas dead?" The mafia would. Roxas was openly suspicious of #85. By killing him, the mafia could easily play it off in the day round as "the mafia must know roxas was right and that's why they killed him." This way they could attempt to get #85 lynched by the town so that they wouldn't have to worry about the doctor or martyr covering him at night.

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MajorasMask9

Also going to say that I'm definitely not convinced about Feral being the Martyr.

Enough of this. I did lie about being a worthless townie. But I'm not Mafia either. I am the Martyr. During the last day round end, Xhin got caught up in his hosting, and accidentally told me who the Doctor is in my thread. I protected them last night, but they weren't targeted. On night one, I protected myself. On night two, I protected Chief.

-Feral


Feral, I thought about deleting my post today, but thinking about it, the amount of luck it would take for that person to NOT be the doctor would be insane.

-Xhin


By admitting that he revealed the Doctor to me, Xhin confirmed that I was telling the truth about being the Martyr, and in turn am 100% innosent.

-Feral


I'm not going to go out and say that I think he's confirmed guilty or anything, but Feral is defenitely not confirmed to be 100% innocent. He says that during the last day round, Xhin got caught up in hosting and revealed the doctor's identity to him. Xhin later confirmed that this happened. However, this doesn't prove that Feral is the Martyr at all.

-Why would Xhin even bother going into the Martyr's thread during the day round, let alone post information that revealed the doctor?
-Feral claims that on Night 1, he protected himself. As the Martyr this wouldn't make sense, since protecting himself would in-turn kill himself regardless had he been targeted.

A hypothetical situation where Xhin made this slip-up in the mafia thread is actually more likely than him making it in the Martyr thread. The mafia would most likely be talking about the doctor. If we assume white lancer is the doctor based on the fact that he was saved a night back, it's obvious the mafia would have been talking about the possibility that he's the doctor. Xhin could have jumped in--maybe he answered a question--and accidentally referred to white lancer when talking about the doctor.

I'm not saying that's what happened, but it's just a possibility among a bunch of others that's a lot more plausible than Xhin saying "I'm going to go into the Martyr's thread and talk about the Doctor with him."

tl;dr: lengthy post that's basically saying Feral isn't confirmed to 100% be the martyr.

August 1, 2012
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MajorasMask9

about the wait. It was either post this before I left or check to see if my bills had cleared. Starting off with night one, spied on the Silencer, Redack:

{troll}


on night two I went with the Executioner:

Anyone see the new Batman flic? {troll}


very useful. Back to the matter at hand. Still not sure what to think about the whole 9 issue so I'm gonna keep my no kill vote.

August 1, 2012
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Dragon in the Shadows

Yeah, I agree with CtR that an all-out role claim might not be the best of ideas. If we didn't have to deal with the damn Janitor, it'd be a simpler decision to do so.

The Janitor's presence is EXACTLY why a role claim will only work early on. That role means a late-game roleclaim won't do us any good at all but with only two players dead and hidden it'll be a lot more beneficial to do this now. Only two Mafia members maximum will be able to claim dead roles, whereas the rest will have to claim either Townie or a special role (allowing us to narrow it down considerably). I think it'll be a lot more beneficial than keeping quiet about our identities, especially since, as I said, our biggest power roles (Cop/Doctor/Martyr) have already been revealed.

If two power roles have already been taken out, we'll know it based on the number of Townie claims. By my count, there should be only 5 vanilla Townies--if there are 7 claims we'll know for sure that two of our power roles have been taken out and we can start looking at the more suspicious ones. If there wind up being 9 vanilla Townie claims, then all of our special roles are still intact and we can trust all of them, narrowing the pool considerably.

@Majora, I've definitely been thinking about that possibility as well. However, the Martyr strikes me as not being a very viable role to use as a shield for a Mafia member, since they're pretty much inevitably going to die. The way to deal with this is just to have Feral agree to protect the same person every night, and if that person dies while Feral is still alive, we'll know he's lying about being the Martyr and can lynch him.

Also, I want to again emphasize the danger of stray votes. We still have an Executioner in play and if the Governor's insane then we don't have the ability to stop him.

August 1, 2012
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white lancer

Also, I have a question for Xhin: if the Mafia kill got redirected to the Martyr, would the Janitor's body hiding be redirected as well?

August 1, 2012
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white lancer

admit that is an interesting question.

August 1, 2012
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Dragon in the Shadows

we started with 4 townies. if everyone else thinks it's a good idea to reveal, i'll reveal

August 1, 2012
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CtR Black

I agree with a reveal, it is helpful for my checks while of course the mafia can misclaim

August 1, 2012
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#85

I just recounted and CtR is right--we only had 4 vanilla Townies this game. That makes it that much better to do a mass role-reveal, because the Mafia members who claim Townie will have an even smaller pool in which to hide.

August 1, 2012
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white lancer

I did make a reveal about the doctor to Feral. I apologize for doing so, because I thought the identity of the doctor was pretty obvious. MM9 is right though that Feral isn't necessarily the martyr. Seeing that I slipped the first time, I tried to word my post here in an ambiguous way so it neither confirmed nor denied Feral's claim.

August 1, 2012
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Xhin
Sky's the limit

Also, I have a question for Xhin: if the Mafia kill got redirected to the Martyr, would the Janitor's body hiding be redirected as well?

The Janitor role wouldn't apply because the person the mafia targeted didn't get killed. The Martyr is basically a second Doctor, so it acts the same way as a doctor save.

August 1, 2012
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Xhin
Sky's the limit

Alright. So regardless of his role, Roxas (and Shadow, for that matter) had to have been the Mafia's intended target and not a redirected one.

August 1, 2012
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white lancer

Correct.

August 1, 2012
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Xhin
Sky's the limit

They could have also been Sniper or Fisherman kills, however the Janitor would have had to know who the Sniper/Fisherman was going to target, and the mafia would have had to simultaneously not target anyone during the night round.

August 1, 2012
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Xhin
Sky's the limit

Or the Mafia and Sniper/Fisherman targeted the same person. All unlikely scenarios, so I'm working off the assumption that those were Mafia kills.

August 1, 2012
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white lancer

I agree that a mass role reveal would be helpful in terms of giving #85 a better idea of who to check. Normally I might disagree since we have a janitor in play, but I think it's pretty obvious that the mafia know the identities of the Cop and Doctor, as well as possibly other power roles.

I'll start off by saying I'm the Double Voter.

August 1, 2012
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MajorasMask9

I'm all for a mass role-reveal; more than four people claim Townie, someone's lying.

August 1, 2012
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Black Yoshi

The Double-Voter would have had to have been part of the 8 players who voted 'No Kill' last round, and Majora was so his claim checks out as possible. Actually, that's pretty much proof of his innocence unless one of the other voters (Dragon, Feral, Yoshi, Trever, White Thunder, CtR, #85) counter-claims DV. Roxas can't have been the DV since he wasn't a part of that group, and Shadow was dead before then. This is of course assuming Xhin's count was correct and that Day 3's votes were in fact sufficient to end the round.

So what's your role then, Yoshi?

August 2, 2012
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white lancer

I'm also going to suggest that Feral protects me tonight. If I die and he's still alive, you should feel free to lynch him since he's falsely claiming Martyr.

August 2, 2012
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white lancer

Let me tell you why I don't think this role-reveal thing imo is a bad thing for anyone except vanilla townies and me and I've already revealed my self as the gambler.

There are 4 mafia left. And they know the roles of the two people that they killed and hid the bodies. So if they are smart and if they are being led by who I think they are, they are very smart and will claim the roles of the 2 they killed.

And if Redack was telling the truth and I still think he was, #85 has already claimed one of them and after tonight they will have a another role they can claim.

So how about we start telling the "Cop" who to check out.

Now about 9. I just went back through every post since the start of the game and he/she has not posted or voted. Might as well not have him, even if it means losing a townie he that's what he is.

August 2, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

*I don't think

Should be

I think.

August 2, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

And let me say one more thing.

Day 4 and we got one Mafia kill because of a riff in the Mafia forum.

We are being played like a cheap fiddle. There are about 3/4 people that I know that are good enough to pull that off and screw us and not even give us a kiss.

More on this later.

We need to get rid of 9 and stop all this NO Kill

August 2, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

The role reveal is a good idea in the longrun. ESPECIALLY if we do it now, as it gives them afia less room to hide than if we do it later on when they have enough hidden bodies to hide behind. They've only got two roles hidden, meaning two of them will look legitimate and two will most likely claim to be townies.

I'm still standing by my assertion that #85 being mafia is a ridiculous theory. The ONLY evidence pointing toward it being true is the word of a member of the mafia before they're about to get lynched. I've gone over how the timing and probabilities are totally against it being a false claim.

Before we lynch anyone we should get roleclaims. Until then we shouldn't just give the mafia the opportunity to execute someone.

August 2, 2012
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MajorasMask9

They only need one more.

Godfather - Wins with the Mafia. If checked by a Cop, will show up as town-allied, or innocent.

August 2, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

Before we lynch anyone we should get roleclaims.

Why are you pushing this so hard?

The Sniper could get lucky with a shot, but not if it's known who he is and is taken out.

August 2, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

Why are you pushing this so hard?


I've already stated in past games why I think roleclaiming is a good idea in certain scenarios, and this is one of them. Unless someone pushes, it's not going to happen. If it doesn't happen early on it'll be pointless. Why are you against it? You've already roleclaimed, you must have had a reason for that.

August 2, 2012
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MajorasMask9

^Adding on to that, the roleclaiming strategy will be much more effective the more players we have who claim a role. We want to plug up as many holes as possible before moving forward because otherwise those of us who have roleclaimed will have done so pretty much in vain.

August 2, 2012
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white lancer

If I'm Mafia, Lancer WILL be dead tomorrow. The real Martyr would be dead already. If Lancer thinks the Martyr is protecting him, he will protect somebody else, leaving him wide open to a Mafia who knows he is unprotected. Taking out the Doctor would be no brainer, even with the sacrifice of a Mafioso(me being revealed as a liar) the next day, as the Cop would be defenceless the following night. However, I am NOT Mafia, and Lancer will NOT die tonight, even if I must die to protect him.

I know I just incriminated the Hell out of myself, but why would a Mafia give away their entire stragety?

Also, I was keeping this to myself, but I protected myself on night 1 because the points I get for sacrificing myself counts even if the person I "save" is myself. Getting that fact straight was the reason Xhin was talking to me in the Martyr thread.

August 2, 2012
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Feral

Why are you against it? You've already roleclaimed, you must have had a reason for that.

Because it was a townie role with no powers that would hurt or help the town. And I did not want you guys to worry about my role when there are a lot bigger fish in the pond.

August 2, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

Getting that fact straight was the reason Xhin was talking to me in the Martyr thread.


How did the doctor come up in the conversation?

August 2, 2012
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MajorasMask9

Xhin off-handedly commented that he didn't envy the choices me and Lancer had to make that night.

August 2, 2012
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Feral

To clarify, I am the Martyr and I believe 85 is the cop. The only other non-mafia role who had a difficult choice is the Doctor. The fact that Lancer was supposely randomly saved the night before pretty much confirmed it.

August 2, 2012
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Feral

@Lancer: I was going to keep this hidden, lest the Mafia figure me out, but since I'm wearing a Bulletproof Vest it won't matter too much anyway. I'm the Fisherman. I fished out a Bulletproof Vest on Night 1 and have been trying, unsuccessfully, for the Gun or Magnifying Glass.

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Black Yoshi

Awesome, Yoshi--assuming you're telling the truth, you having the Bulletproof vest is really helpful. I'd definitely be going for the Magnifying Glass if I were you, and if you get that before the Martyr/Cop/Doctor are all dead then the Syringe would be great to have just to see if you could save our Cop for one more night.

Feral's story sounds plausible for me, but I guess we'll (or you'll) know for sure if I wind up dead tomorrow, haha. If Feral's lying, at least the Mafia will be sacrificing one of their own to take me out.

Because it was a townie role with no powers that would hurt or help the town. And I did not want you guys to worry about my role when there are a lot bigger fish in the pond.

Most of the useful Town roles were out by this point anyway (the Cop--assuming we can trust #85--by claiming, me by the Mafia taking a shot at me, and Feral by claiming this round). That's a big reason I think a role-claim is the way to go--with most of the Town roles revealed to the Mafia anyway, I don't think time is on our side and we need to gather as much information as we can NOW.

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white lancer

Alright, so if we can believe all the claims so far, this is what we have:

Chief-Gambler
Dragon-Spy
Red- Dead Silencer
Dooku-?(MIA?)
Hezy-?
Shadow-Dead Unknown
Kyon-?
Feral-Martyr
Yoshi-Bulletproof Fisherman
Trever-?
Thunder-?
Roxas- Dead Unknown
Lancer- Doctor
CtR-?
#85-Cop
Zanic-?
Majora- Double Voter
9-?(Inactive)

Two additional things to add.

1. Due to his reaction when he got voted for, I still think Roxas was a Power Role, and I now believe he was the Sniper(see #2). I think Shadow was a Townie.

2. Due to how he insanly refered to himself as "Lord Emperor" or whatever, I think the Governor is either Trever or Dooku.

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Feral

i'd like to hear dooku's, kyon's, thunder's, and zanic's view on the role reveal before i reveal

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CtR Black

@CtR Black

if everyone else thinks it's a good idea to reveal, i'll reveal

i'd like to hear dooku's, kyon's, thunder's, and zanic's view on the role reveal before i reveal

And why would you want to wait? See what role may be left that no one else claimed?

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chiefsonny
 

Sigh. Well apparently this mass-reveal is happening. Feral, I can tell you that you're wrong about #1, because I'm the Sniper. I haven't tried to kill anybody off yet, because I haven't had enough confidence in my own hunches to act on them (the last time I was a vigilante-esque role, I was far too trigger-happy).

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hezekiah

"I think Shadow was a Townie."

You Think?

If he was killed by the mafia and his body was hidden by the Janitor that's a pretty good bet he was a townie.

August 2, 2012
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chiefsonny
 

The mafia is going to hide the body regardless

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#85

Only 7 people who haven't claimed and we don't have a single player who has claimed Vanilla Townie. Interesting.

i'd like to hear dooku's, kyon's, thunder's, and zanic's view on the role reveal before i reveal

I find this suspicious as well, especially because there's only one Town-sided power role left unclaimed and it's the Governor. It seems like CtR is being very cautious about the role reveal, but why would he be so protective about his role if he were a Townie or the Governor?

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white lancer

lol, I meant a Vanilla Townie, chief!

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Feral

Yeah, very suspicious. Based on how everybody's revealed you should be willing to jump in at this point, if you're not Mafia. I'm just a vanilla townie.

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White Thunder

At least two of the seven who haven't claimed have to be Mafia (unless one of the Mafia members claimed a power role of someone who is still alive, and I don't know why they'd do that), because the Mafia only have at most two power roles that they can claim safely.

By this point it should be pretty clear that I'm the Doctor, and unless Xhin made a mistake and ended the round early last round (and I trust he'll own up to that if he has) then we can trust Majora as the Double-Voter. I'm also less concerned about Feral lying about his role because we can sort of test his role depending on whether or not I wind up dead. I'd suggest the Cop (if #85 really is the Cop) check power role claimants that we can't really test, starting with whoever seems the most iffy. Yoshi and Thunder have been cleared by the Cop (although they could theoretically be the Godfather).

There's also a way we could check hezekiah's Sniper claim, but it's risky. If two people die tonight we'll know for sure that the Sniper is still alive, but the risks in that are obvious and we'll have to decide if that's worth the risk.

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white lancer

I'm sure Redack is just laughing in the afterlife at the mistrust he caused with his parting shot at #85, true or not.

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white lancer

naw they dont have to reveal. just wanna see if they agree to.

wwhatever though, im a townie

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CtR Black

Out of Ctr Black, Trever, Kyon, 9, Zanic, White Thunder, and Count Dooku, we can assume that a minumum of two of them are mafia. We'd still get better odds if everyone claimed, especially the governor.

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MajorasMask9

I'm thinkin of checking either one of the people MM9 listed.

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#85

I actually think it might be better to check Dragon or Chief, since they're the two power roles we can't really test. If we can figure out how many power roles were claimed by Mafia members we'll have a better idea of our chances of hitting one among the Townies.

And the more I think about it, the more it seems beneficial for hezekiah to take a shot at someone tonight. We'll have several power roles protected in case something goes awry (which probably won't be the case in future rounds) and we'll be able to confirm his role for sure. I'd suggest we ultimately don't kill anyone today (but DON'T end the round before the other players have a chance to claim) since we'll have hezy's kill possibly setting us back one. He should target one of the players that haven't claimed yet, whichever one seems most suspicious; to me, that's CtR, Trever, or maybe just 9 for inactivity. That way, we'll be testing two different claims in one night:

1. If I die, you guys can be sure Feral is Mafia because he lied about being the Martyr/protecting me.

2. If only one person is targeted to die tonight, then hezekiah is lying about being the Sniper.

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white lancer

way I see it there are only two proven roles at this time. Lancer is the doctor (saved himself) and Feral is the martyr (Xhin's slip up). There is a possibility that just about everyone else could be mafia. Although I'ld say 85's cop claim is 99% genuine at this point.

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Dragon in the Shadows

suggestion is check out chief tonight and I'll do my spy thing. If the timing is right I might get something and be able to prove myself without wasting an investigation. But once the power roles have been checked out or proven we should check the vanillas too. For all we know the missing bodies could be plain old townies or a power role and a townie.

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Dragon in the Shadows

I agree, we should agree on someone for hez to take out and if he does that suggests he is the sniper (the mafia could make us believe that, but not if we get them to target one of their own) I think CtR or Trever would be good picks.

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#85

I did find chiefs instant claim to be a townie and now all the sudden he is the gambler suspicious

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#85

Maybe the gambler is the power role we lost

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#85

It's a useless role to the town. If I was the gambler I would have claimed on day one.

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Dragon in the Shadows

I think checking chief will just result in an innocent result, and it would be pointless to check him.

I do think he could be the godfather though. He said he'll show up innocent, he was quick to claim a unique town-sided role with virutally no night action, he was the first person to support Redack against #85, and he's shown that he still does want to lynch #85. He was initially against the roleclaim idea, but also--I don't know if it was a slip-up or what--but I didn't really understand what he meant in his reply to me a while back:

The role reveal is a good idea in the longrun. ESPECIALLY if we do it now, as it gives them afia less room to hide than if we do it later on when they have enough hidden bodies to hide behind. They've only got two roles hidden, meaning two of them will look legitimate and two will most likely claim to be townies.

I'm still standing by my assertion that #85 being mafia is a ridiculous theory. The ONLY evidence pointing toward it being true is the word of a member of the mafia before they're about to get lynched. I've gone over how the timing and probabilities are totally against it being a false claim.

Before we lynch anyone we should get roleclaims. Until then we shouldn't just give the mafia the opportunity to execute someone.

-Majora


They only need one more.

Godfather - Wins with the Mafia. If checked by a Cop, will show up as town-allied, or innocent.


I didn't really understand how the godfather was relevant to what I said, but the fact that he brought the godfather up seemed suspicious to me.

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MajorasMask9

i think checking me would be a complete waste ;)

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CtR Black

What am I, just a gun-for-hire? Fine... Heads for CtR, Tails for Trever.

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hezekiah

Damn you, Team Phoenix!

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hezekiah

Well let me make it easy for you. Lynch me.

And then you can check out MM9, because he's one of the 3/4 I was talking about that could pull this off.

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chiefsonny
 

Ok

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MajorasMask9

confused --->

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Dragon in the Shadows

OH, and if for some reason the rest of the town decides not to lynch me.

MM9 can you tell the Mafia to take me out next when you guys meet next night round so I can bet on myself and get a point. I think I can do that.

@Xhin, can I bet on myself? Or would you rather answer that in my thread?

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chiefsonny
 

confused --->

Don't be. It's simple. MM9 is pissed because I've called him out. If you look at his statements below, it seems I'm the only one he wants lynched.

I said above to lynch me, so I can prove that the people that are insisting that I'm the Godfather, are more then likely Mafia.
Because their argument will be "he can still be the Godfather even if he shows up innocent.
Loose loose for me and the town. Win win for them. Get me during the day round, and another townie next night round.



Before we lynch anyone we should get roleclaims. Until then we shouldn't just give the mafia the opportunity to execute someone.

-Majora

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chiefsonny
 

Don't be. It's simple. MM9 is pissed because I've called him out. If you look at his statements below, it seems I'm the only one he wants lynched.

Unless someone counterclaims Double Voter, I'm innocent. It's already been gone over how the Double Voter was somebody that voted in the last round, meaning the double voter is not Shadow, not Roxas, and is one of the active players who have already role revealed in this thread. Knowing that, there's no reason why I should be threatened by you calling me out at all!

You say we should lynch you to confirm your role, and honestly I'm ok with that. I've seen it thrown around here where people seem to automatically think "if this person is willing to kill themselves, they must be innocent! Let's not vote for them," and that's not how it works.

You falsely claimed at the beginning of the game, and then you claimed gambler. I don't see why you'd have any reason to fake a claim like that. You said it yourself: the only reason you claimed was because you had an unimportant role. You've done a lot of suspicious things this game, and I'm not just going to turn a blind eye because you decided to vote for yourself.

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MajorasMask9

You falsely claimed at the beginning of the game, and then you claimed gambler. I don't see why you'd have any reason to fake a claim like that.

On day one of the game as a joke I posted this. And there is no Blue Townie by the way.

I'm the Blue Townie. Thursday, Jul 26,

Then after Redack made his claim, again as a joke I posted this.

Redack, as your Godfather and aka Blue Townie, I demand you tell us who the Silencer is.
Pretty please.
Just kidding. I respect your integrity? Friday, Jul 27,

Then after Feral said he thought I was the Godfather, I posted this.

Let's put this matter to rest right now. In the words of Feral I'm just a worthless townie, like the other townies that don't have "Power Roles Saturday, Jul 28,
I also posted in this same post the first 4 lines of the Kenny Rogers song The Gambler. As a hint.

Then in this day round I posted this.

Let me tell you why I don't think this role-reveal thing imo is a bad thing for anyone except vanilla townies and me and I've already revealed my self as the gambler.

So for you to make the claims you are making I can only assume that:

1. You have trouble understanding English.

2. You don't know a joke when you see one.

3. You are using me to divert attention away from yourself.

Anyway I guess my next move should be to vote for you. But I will not play that silly game.

I will probably change my vote back to 9 for the reasons I stated before. I will leave your fate to others.

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chiefsonny
 

And in case you missed it. I voted for 9 because a inactive player is worthless to everyone.

1. You have trouble understanding English.

And I would like to retract that. it's to personal. And I apologize.

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chiefsonny
 

3. You are using me to divert attention away from yourself.

No please, look at me everyone! Look back to the last round to see why I'm innocent. I may be putting a target on my back by flaunting around the fact that I was pretty much confirmed innocent by the results of the last Day Round, but it's true, and I'd love to hear anyone even attempt to dispute that.

And sorry, I didn't know voting for you would get you upset. Maybe if you didn't give me a reason to:

Well let me make it easy for you. Lynch me.


I wouldn't have gone that far!

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MajorasMask9

Wait, MM9, why are you voting for chief? We still want the day round to go on as long as possible so that more players will hopefully come in here and roleclaim--I think we've still got a good chance of hearing from Kyon and Trever and hopefully Dooku. Zanic is out of town this week and 9 is a lost cause, but those three are still possibilities.

I said above to lynch me, so I can prove that the people that are insisting that I'm the Godfather, are more then likely Mafia.

That unfortunately wouldn't prove any such thing. People have been and will continue to be wrong in some of the accusations they make in this game. Doesn't mean they're Mafia. And anyway, like I said earlier, unless Xhin messed up on the vote counts yesterday or there is more than one DV (who hasn't spoken up until now), then Majora has to be the Double-Voter.

What am I, just a gun-for-hire? Fine... Heads for CtR, Tails for Trever.

Haha, sorry about that, but you are town-sided, right? :P Anyway, I actually think it's better if we as a Town don't actually know who you're targeting because we don't want the Mafia to know either. If they know they'll have the option of hiding that player's body or even framing you by targeting the same person. Better if you just make your decision in private and target someone you think is suspicious and who hasn't claimed an important role. All that matters for the test is that two people die or are targeted for death tonight, and it doesn't matter which two people.

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white lancer

My vote on chiefsonny was pretty spur of the moment, but I agree we should have the round go on as long as possible to get role reveals, so I'll retract my vote.

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MajorasMask9

at this point we have two options: kill the inactive 9 or kill the possible gambler Chief...Neither one sounds appealing. I still don't like the idea of voting to kill an inactive so I'll take the other option. Nothing personal, Chief, and I hope, if you don't get lynched, your bet-on-yourself plan works.

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Dragon in the Shadows

I propose a third option, Dragon: since we're planning on having hezy take a shot at someone tonight, we hold off on killing anyone for this round and start voting people off next round.

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white lancer

the lack of info that sounds like a decent option...Not ideal, but decent. Unless anyone else has any ideas I'm gonna change my vote to no kill.

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Dragon in the Shadows

If we don't soon find out who the Janitor is and get rid of him, we're never going to find out who any one is.

Changing my vote back to 9 as I said for 2 reason's
1. He has not taken part in this game from the start except to reg. and imo a inactive player is useless.

2. By us lynching him, the mafia can't hide him so at least we know for sure what his role is.

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chiefsonny
 

I have a question.

If The governor has gone insane and declared sovereignty from the town and there is no Psychiatrist to cure him, can he post in the main thread or just in his thread or not at all?

I'd like some input from Xhin on this in case someone claims that role.

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chiefsonny
 

Again, Dooku remains MIA. I still think that he is Governer, so Chief may be on to something...

Anyway, don't know how much I will be around tomorrow(real time). I'll stay with 9.

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Feral

Unless one of the Mafia members claimed a power role they knew was still alive (not sure why they'd do that), 9 is for sure either the Governor, a Townie, or a Mafia member. All other roles have been claimed. Personally, I think he's probably useless/harmless, so I'm not going to vote for him in case hezy wants to target him tonight (or in case hezy targets someone else and the random chance kicks in).

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white lancer

personally thinking that 9 might be the governor. If not he's mafia. Either way we can pretty much ignore him since he hasn't done anything. Perhaps we should have the cop check him out. If he shows up as innocent then we can lynch him once we are down to the godfather.

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Dragon in the Shadows

I'm okay with lynching 9 when we come to a point where we don't really have anything to go off of. Personally I think he's most likely just a normal Townie, but if so he's useless to our side except potentially to absorb a misfire by the Sniper. Checking him would probably be a waste of time.

It's possible that Xhin caused the Gov to go insane simply because the role was filled by an inactive player. Dooku and Trever haven't been around J/S in the past couple of days but I'm hoping they'll show up in time to contribute to this thread; Kyon too. We're obviously not going to get anything out of 9 and Zanic is out of town this week.

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white lancer

is where I am confused. If we have 4 inactive (9, Dooku, Trever and Kyon) why are some people so eager to off 9? How come no one has suggested one of the other three?

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Dragon in the Shadows

I did not mess up the vote counts yesterday.

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Xhin
Sky's the limit

If The governor has gone insane and declared sovereignty from the town and there is no Psychiatrist to cure him, can he post in the main thread or just in his thread or not at all?

His insanity doesn't affect his gameplay at all. I just called him insane because he took his mafia role a little too seriously and keeps issuing edicts and erecting gold statues and such.

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Xhin
Sky's the limit

goes my last thoery. So the governor is some one arrogant, vain and controlling...It's Xhin! {:3}

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Dragon in the Shadows

That description of the Governor would fit Redack to a tee, were he still in the game. Therefore I'm going to assume it's Dooku. {:P}

And since the votes were correct last round, I don't think there's any way Majora can be guilty unless one of the remaining players also claims DV.

This is where I am confused. If we have 4 inactive (9, Dooku, Trever and Kyon) why are some people so eager to off 9? How come no one has suggested one of the other three?

Dooku, Trever, and Kyon have all participated in this game at some point whereas 9 never has, plus they've all played before so they haven't forgotten they signed up. More likely they're just busy IRL and haven't had time to post recently.

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white lancer

Handy Hint: If you claim a role with night actions, you should reveal what night actions you made and what the results were if applicable!

As was the case with the Trickster role and the town exploiting its flaws, there are loopholes which I bet the Mafia exploited for the Spy... they all probably made sure their last posts in their thread for the day was meaningless so the Spy couldn't divulge any useful information.

That description of the Governor would fit Redack to a tee, were he still in the game. Therefore I'm going to assume it's Dooku.

Someone up there said it could be me... when have I ever called myself "Lord Emperor"? {:P} I prefer more benign, or even heroic, descriptions! So yeah, I'd think it is Dooku too. And besides, may as well say it... I'm a townie again -_- I always get the sucky roles in the games that last. Every time I got a cool role, the game got reset.

Dooku, Trever, and Kyon have all participated in this game at some point whereas 9 never has, plus they've all played before so they haven't forgotten they signed up. More likely they're just busy IRL and haven't had time to post recently.

This. I actually have been having weird problems getting online... rather irritating really.

Still haven't seen anything obvious enough yet for a vote so... I'll wait on my vote yet again.

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Noctis Lucis Caelum

In any case, it may behoove us to lynch someone today, since not voting or going No Kill would practically give the Mafia the game.

Looking back at this thread and especially Dragon's spy reveal, something caught my eye as I was perusing some of Chief's replies. Sometimes he appears to get lazy and forget some punctuation, but especially apostrophes, which the spy reveal post also lacked, however he does capitalize as per the norm, which the spy reveal thread does as well. And why on Earth would someone claim Townie, then reverse and claim Gambler, even if that's the most pointless power role here?

Something about that strikes a particularly dissonant chord with me...

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Black Yoshi

First things first, I apologize for my relative inactivity this game. I've been occupied by some substantial IRL issues, and they've prevented me from being on the computer much these last few days.

That said, I'll go ahead and out as the Governor. Apologies for the confusion about me being 'insane', just wanted to have some fun with a somewhat less useful role.

And for the record, it's 'Your Overlord His Highness' not 'Lord Emperor'! Your entire basis was flawed!

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Count Dooku

Also, I've played some catch up and I'm beginning to suspect something isn't right.

On Day 3 I believe Roxas left us two hints.

The first was a video from a movie about a former SPY.

The second, Roxas stated this:

You'll just be making a mistake, and if Redack is right, y'all would be left in the Dark.

Redack was trying to claim that we'd lost our cop. Without the cop, the town would have no real investigative power other than the SPY.

And... we know that Dragon has claimed SPY... Dunno... Its a long shot but the hints seem to be there.

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Count Dooku

I agree that Redack's statement and the #85 claim sound pretty plausible to me...And #85 has yet to make a counter claim which is suspicious to me. Does the Spy have anything usefull?

I have too many theories at the moment so I'm waiting for the cop and/or spy to fill in some gaps. Until then or if some one comes up with something solid I'm holding my vote.

Comments made by Dragon last day round. They sound more like someone who is hoping for information from a special role than the special role themselves, or possibly a Mafia member hoping to goad the Spy into revealing. I'm a little wary to just jump on and vote Dragon off this round because if he is faking being the Spy, he's been doing a very good job of it this round (not to mention we don't want to lose a power role), and those comments could be just the Spy hoping to convince the Mafia that he's not the Spy, but I'm definitely a little more suspicious of Dragon now.

I think we can probably trust Dooku is innocent, in any case (not 100%, but probably more than most). If the Mafia had killed the Governor and wanted to claim his role, they probably would have had a more active member do so. Also, there's a way to test Dooku's innocence: if we decide not to kill anyone today, we can just vote Dooku off instead and he'll use his Governor powers to keep from dying.

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white lancer

Also: now that all the power roles have claimed it's probably safe to assume that the other players are all going to claim vanilla Townie. That means we're safe to cast our votes and end the round.

My vote will go to Dooku (to test whether he's the Governor) or maybe to Dragon. There's no point in voting No Kill because that would just be throwing away an opportunity to check Dooku's Governor claim.

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white lancer

IMPORTANT NOTE:

Since I'm going to be gone from 7pm-11pm tomorrow, I'm going to end this round at 6pm rather than at the 72-hour mark. If everyone's quick enough, we might be able to start Day 5 by the time I get home from work.

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Xhin
Sky's the limit

Comments made by Dragon last day round. They sound more like someone who is hoping for information from a special role than the special role themselves, or possibly a Mafia member hoping to goad the Spy into revealing. I'm a little wary to just jump on and vote Dragon off this round because if he is faking being the Spy, he's been doing a very good job of it this round (not to mention we don't want to lose a power role), and those comments could be just the Spy hoping to convince the Mafia that he's not the Spy, but I'm definitely a little more suspicious of Dragon now.


comments were blinds to keep the mafia from thinking I was the Spy. I hadn't revealed yet.

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Dragon in the Shadows

Wow, we are all over the place, aren't we?

Pretty damn cool that I actually called out Dooku based on his jokes! Makes me pretty certain he is innocent.

Back in day 3, I was suspicious of Dragon based on his quickness to defend 9 when I voted for him. I still believe it's possible that both are Mafia. As I said, with all these inactive players, one was bound to be Mafia sooner or later. I have been giving Dragon the benefit of the doubt, but I'm willing to suspect him again.

I suggest we lynch 9 today, and if he IS guilty, we can assume Dragon is as well and lynch him tomorrow.

I will save Lancer tonight, and he will save #85. That will keep both our Doctor and Cop safe(if the Mafia target me, oh well. I am proud to die helping the town, and you will know I am innocent).

Hezy can take a shot in the dark, and hope to avoid any town power roles. Just follow your gut when you pick your target.

#85, I would suggest either checking Dragon to try and confirm our suspicions or Kyon, since he is the last person who hasn't revealed.

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Feral

quote: Black Yoshi

And why on Earth would someone claim Townie, then reverse and claim Gambler, even if that's the most pointless power role here?

Another one that doesn't know a joke when they see it. I claimed Blue Townie, I repeat BLUE TOWNIE a role that does not exist in this game. {roll}

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chiefsonny
 

I got your joke, Cheif. {;)}

Anyway, I ruled out four players from being Mafia; Vandy, Teddy, Poptart, and Helius! They didn't even move back into Mafia Town after the place was nuked! {:P}

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Feral

Maybe they were in the town when it was nuked. And had to move to the Mojave Wasteland outside of New Vegas.

Oh My.(hehe)

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chiefsonny
 

I'm a little torn on what to do with Dragon this round. He's my biggest suspicion right now and I would vote him off if I had to pick someone right now but it may be better to play this day round a little cautiously. I don't want to vote for 9 because I think he's probably harmless anyway, and because he might absorb the Sniper's bullet tonight and thus keep someone else safe. I'm also not particularly suspicious of chief at the moment--and if Dragon turns out to be guilty, it's likely (but not 100%) that chief is innocent since Dragon was trying to direct votes at him earlier.

As I see it, these are the players who we can probably consider safe:

Count Dooku
Black Yoshi (Cop check)
White Thunder (Cop check)
white lancer
MajorasMask9

These players are in the middle for me:

chiefsonny
#85
9

These two will have their powers 'checked' tonight:

hezekiah
Feral (his check isn't 100%)

Which makes these players my biggest suspicions:

Dragon in the Shadows
Kyon
Trever Leingod
CtR Black
Zanic

It's up to the Cop who he wants to check tonight, and that basically comes down to whether he wants to check someone with a decent amount of evidence against him for confirmation (like Dragon) or whether he wants to check someone we don't really have much on (like Kyon or Zanic). I'd suggest that the Sniper also target someone from this pool.

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white lancer

For now I'm going to vote for Dooku just to make 100% sure of him. I'm probably not going to be on again before the day round ends, so this will probably wind up being my final vote.

Anyway, be careful about voting Dooku--if he's not around, don't push him to the 8 vote limit to end the round because we want to give him a chance to save himself with his power.

August 3, 2012
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white lancer

If we wish to vote for me, I'm all for it. Perhaps #85 can investigate Dragon during the night round?

August 3, 2012
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Count Dooku

I was going to check Dragon last check but Yoshi said some things I saw as suspicious. There are a lot of good options to pick tonight and I don't think any of them will be bad.

One thing, if Feral is lying, our Doctor and Martyr are totally compromised and this will be my last check. So if Hez is really the sniper, he should take out someone of serious suspicion.

August 3, 2012
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#85

I'll do what I can...

August 3, 2012
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hezekiah

@Chief: Sorry about that...didn't even see that. I saw other people referring to your "townie claim" and thought they were serious.

My suspicion still stands however; I'm leaving my vote, but it may change over the course of the round.

August 3, 2012
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Black Yoshi

Night 4

During the day, there was much arguing back and forth, but the townies finally decided to lynch 9. He was the Mafioso.

24 hours or until all night actions are complete.

August 3, 2012
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Xhin
Sky's the limit

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