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Posted August 13, 2012 by hezekiah

You guys are the Mafia. Let's see who's who.

CtR Black - Lazy Janitor
Black Yoshi - Thug
Yeano - Mafioso
Count Dooku - Mafioso
`Roxas` - Evil Twin

The Evil Twin may choose any number of people to protect from a lynch during Day 1. Remember that you may only protect each person once during the game. Your role description is in the [p:69175|main thread].

The Lazy Janitor may choose any number of people whose bodies he wants to hide, but may only hide a total of 5 bodies throughout the game.

The Thug may define non-mafia players he wishes to die for at night, as well as any players he wishes to die for during day rounds.

The mafia may not make a kill tonight.

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hi

August 13, 2012
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Yeano

(hehe)

This shall be interesting.

August 13, 2012
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`Roxas`

We're pretty safe as to avoid any lynches on Day One.

However, just in case, I will save Mr. Yeano should he be the victim of a lynching.

Some blind guesses at their roles:

Redack - Orange Agent
Shadowwalked - Distracted Doctor
Frustro - Double Voter
MajorasMask9 - Drug Dealer
Xhin - Gambler

We need to avoid hitting the Good Twin at all costs. If we do, however, kill him via lynch or night kill, hide my body as well.

August 13, 2012
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`Roxas`

So, I get to choose whom to die for? Like, I can choose to die in place of someone (non-Mafia) who gets hit by a night role, as well as choose to be lynched in place of someone during the Day rounds?

Did I get that right?

August 14, 2012
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Black Yoshi

Pretty much. You can be an all around Martyr.

August 14, 2012
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`Roxas`

Yep, you can die for anyone you want at any time. You're only forced to die for somebody if a mafia member is killed at night who isn't the Evil Twin doing his suicide.

August 14, 2012
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hezekiah

Biggest threat is Orange Agent. We need to take him out ASAP.

August 14, 2012
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`Roxas`

I'm very confident about this setup we have, although the possibility of killing one of our own by taking out the Good Twin is annoying.

Roxas is entirely correct about hiding our own bodies. I'm not sure its a strategy that's been used yet (me and Redack talked about it during SW mafia but it was unnecessary) and the town will be thrown through a loop if we use it.

August 14, 2012
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Count Dooku

Right then. I'll use my role strategically here. I'm thinking if it appears one of us is under great suspicion from the Town, I'll die in their place.

Unless someone else has a better idea of how to use my role...?

August 14, 2012
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Black Yoshi

The only time I think it's been used was two games ago when Feral, chief, myself and two others were Mafia.

The one benefit we have is there is no investigating role this game.

As of right now, Redack is my main concern (unless something comes up in the Day).

August 14, 2012
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`Roxas`

The problem is that we only have five chance to use it, so we need to choose wisely.

August 14, 2012
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`Roxas`

Ehhh..... I'll rescind my decision to protect Yeano. We have nothing to worry about in Day One.

August 14, 2012
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`Roxas`

Yeah, after Redack's last three replies, I'm growing more and more suspicious of him (even if it is the first day).

August 14, 2012
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`Roxas`

High-Priority Kills (no particular order):

Redack
MajorasMask9
Xhin
chiefsonny
Shadowwalked

Based on past games, these are our five biggest threats.

Mid-Priority Kills (again, no particular order):

white lancer
CtR Black
Trever Leingod
Zanic
Feral

As of right now, that leaves us with four Low-Priority Kills:

Female Alpha Wolf (due to being new, not sure how will play out)
Frustro (same as FAW)
Jo Nathan (only game experience was little activity, unsure of potential)
Kyon (somewhat active, but not active enough to get a gauge on in game strategy)

From here on out, I will refer to the tiers by their initials HPK, MPK and LPK.

August 14, 2012
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`Roxas`

Whoops! Sorry CtR, didn't realize you were on my list until this moment.

I meant for White Thunder to be in the second MPK slot.

August 14, 2012
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`Roxas`

Better idea -- I'll die in your place if one of you asks; otherwise, I'd rather not die unnecessarily.

August 14, 2012
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Black Yoshi

I just thought of something, but I would like hezekiah to clarify for us:

If Zanic were to die and Black Yoshi throw himself for me upon his death, would I continue living on?

August 14, 2012
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`Roxas`

Also, Zanic now moves to No Kill List.

August 14, 2012
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`Roxas`

I mentioned in the main thread, but the Thug is unable to prevent the Evil Twin's suicide.

August 14, 2012
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hezekiah

Dammit.

August 14, 2012
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`Roxas`

I stand by my suspicions of Redack. Though we probably won't have any play for at least another day and a half, we should start planning for our actions.

August 14, 2012
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`Roxas`

My thoughts on order of killing:

1) Redack
2) MajorasMask9
3) Xhin
4) Shadowwalked
5) chiefsonny


Thoughts about this, guys?

August 14, 2012
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`Roxas`

My first thought is YAY XHIN DOESN'T DIE FIRST, but my next thought is that if earlier games are anything to go by, then perhaps we should take out Chief fairly early on. I still remember in Game 2 when he was the Vigilante and I was Mafia, and we had no idea who was the Vigilante until literally the last moments of the game. Chief was just that good at leading us off of his trail. Something tells me that even if he's a vanilla Townie that we need to take him out before anyone else save Redack.

August 14, 2012
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Black Yoshi

So moving chief from five to two?

August 14, 2012
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`Roxas`

Here's another way to use the thug, if you want. Yes, we would lose the thug, but we could have the thug sacrifice himself for a Townie lynch.

Of course, everyone would be like "OMG THAT PERSON WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LYNCHED IS MAFIA." Except maybe Majora. He knows about this strategy.

Either way! It's a way to almost insure that a townie will be lynched the following day, but at the cost of the thug.

August 14, 2012
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Yeano

@Roxas: Exactly.

August 14, 2012
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Black Yoshi

So our pecking order is:

Redack
chiefsonny
MajorasMask9
Xhin
Shadowwalked

Also, I said what I said because they have wanted my head on a silver platter for suggesting this previously, but now that there isn't a Cop they want to do so. Like I said, we haven't even hit 12 hours and they want to kill each other. While I am all for this, the "inactive" players haven't even had a chance to post.

August 15, 2012
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`Roxas`

Also, any disagreements on my Tier systems for the Town?

August 15, 2012
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`Roxas`

Erm, I don't want to get Redack in trouble, but, when he found out what his role was he said something to me along the lines of:

'I'll be annoyed if you're mafia because my role sucks.'

Which could very well be an attempt to trick me, but frankly I trust him. I do not believe he's a power role, and if he is it may be a very minor power role.

If we have to put Redack on the list lets at least do him last.

As a side note, I'm dealing with some IRL issues (my grandmother's house burned down two days ago due to a wildfire, and college has started, among other things) so I won't be very active. Rest assured I will do my best to partake in the game, albeit less so than normal. Since I'm just a mafioso, this shouldn't be overly troublesome. If you need someone to throw under the bus to get suspicion off of a valuable player, I'm your guy.

August 15, 2012
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Count Dooku

Yeah, he tried getting me to out myself as Mafia earlier. I just told him that I have decided to turn my game around since the Empire Game with the Knux issue and not really talking to anybody unless I am dead, and even then being selective in what I say.

I'm actually considering moving Redack from 1 to 3 and substituting MM9 in the 1 slot. He's a phenomenal player, and his death would be a blow to the town. If there is any one player this game that they can rally around, it would be MM9.

My proposal is that when the night comes, we target MM9. Whether we hide his body, I will leave that entirely up to CtR Black.


Sorry to hear of your grandmother's house, Dooku. Best of luck with her rebuilding process after that, and best of luck to you in the new school year.

August 15, 2012
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`Roxas`

i dont find chiefsonny as that much of a threat. i think he should be replaced with lancer. but top of mid priority

August 15, 2012
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CtR Black

I agree with at least killing MM9 first at the very least. Chiefsonny doesn't exactly come off as threatening to me, so frankly I'd rather go something like this:

MM9
Xhin
Shadowwalked
Chiefsonny
Redack

Dunno about hiding the body though, defer to you guys. Highly suggest we hide some of our own mafia's bodies when they die.

And thanks, Roxas. Important part is she made it out okay.

August 15, 2012
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Count Dooku

Oh god I forgot about Lancer, I'd definitely suggest we put lancer the high importance list in Chiefsonny's place.

August 15, 2012
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Count Dooku

Yeah, lancer may be better to replace with chief. Now that I think about it, Shadowwalked needs to be second to go by our hands.

1. MajorasMask9
2. Shadowwalked
3. Xhin
4. white lancer
5. Redack
6. chiefsonny
7. White Thunder
8. Trever Leingod
9. Zanic (bare minimum is here)
10. Feral
11. Female Alpha Wolf
12. Frustro
13. Jo Nathan
14. Kyon

August 15, 2012
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`Roxas`

I think we should go for Xhin or lancer. They are the only two to have votes so far. I'll probably wait until tonight or tomorrow some time to cast my vote.

August 15, 2012
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`Roxas`

It might seem suspicious if someone last-minute votes for Xhin or Lancer... Gotta be very careful about it

August 15, 2012
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Count Dooku

Which is why I plan on doing around the 36 or 24-hours to go mark.

And of course there are some people who don't see the big picture. {>:(}

August 15, 2012
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`Roxas`

Don't really understand what has caused this suspicion upon myself, but it's whatever. If Day One is when I must leave the game, then it must be so.

August 15, 2012
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`Roxas`

I don't understand it either... They're just randomly suspicious of you.

August 15, 2012
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Count Dooku

I mean, my reaction this game is no different than most when suspicion has been cast on me, right?

August 15, 2012
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`Roxas`

Unless we can somehow shift the suspicion or vote on to somebody else, let's say Feral with his computer issues, then I, and Zanic, are as good as gone this Day/Night round.

Stick with the plan, you guys. Take out MM9. Whether he's hidden or not is completely up to you, CtR.

August 15, 2012
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`Roxas`

Roxas, I'm putting a vote in for Zanic on the off chance that it'll make me look innocent later (as voting to kill the Good Twin is as good as voting to kill a fellow mafia).

August 15, 2012
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Count Dooku

Although if everyone decides to flip flop their vote onto Zanic now I've as good as killed you anyway... >.< Sorry

August 15, 2012
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Count Dooku

Unless, of course, you decide to take the lynch for Zanic, allowing each of us to protect each other tomorrow, if he hasn't already protected himself or me today.

Hey, no big deal. It's just a game, and that's how it has to go some times.

August 15, 2012
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`Roxas`

I didn't think they'd go for a vote on Zanic, as most of them were talking about keeping him for when the town got 'desperate'

August 15, 2012
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Count Dooku

If Thunder doesn't make a post before 9:30 tonight, should we make a push on him?

August 15, 2012
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`Roxas`

Oh, and apparently saying you won't tell somebody else your role when they ask makes you the role they ask.

Good luck guys. Heh, maybe I can do the same thing as LLight did when he was the Cop and died.

August 15, 2012
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`Roxas`

Sigh, sorry to see you go Roxas :(

August 15, 2012
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Count Dooku

C'est la vie, comrades. I just wasn't expect Day One to be my grand finale this time.

CtR, don't bother hiding Zanic's body, it would just be a waste. I don't recommend hiding tonight's kill either. Night Two, I do think would be best.

None of you drew suspicions to yourself, so keep playing as you are and you should win. Follow the strategy, one by one their strongest strategists will fall, ensuring our victory.

Though, by the looks of things, Black Yoshi will be the one taking the fall. While this may draw further suspicions to myself, it may be the cover we need to continue moving forward.

Should this happen and Black Yoshi is the one to leave us tonight, then I may be able to twist the town into mercy with the fact the Thug can take a lynch for anybody if he so pleases. This would make it look even more like that I was Mafia, and, even though I am, does allow for this legal loophole to take place.

Should I not make it to the Night, best of luck.

August 15, 2012
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`Roxas`

Am I missing something in the main thread? Why would I be the one to take the fall?

My role description in the main thread says I don't have to take the fall for a lynch, only if one of you guys is targeted by a night action.

August 15, 2012
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Black Yoshi

Ah, I see... Never mind, I was going off of the Roles Document.

August 15, 2012
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`Roxas`

You may now vote on somebody to kill. 3 votes required, Janitor breaks a tie if needed.

August 16, 2012
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hezekiah

Alright...our dear leader Roxas had a point to be suspicious about MajorasMask9, but I can't help wondering if Chiefsonny shouldn't be higher up on the List.

That said, I shall follow Roxas' lead and vote for MajorasMask9.

August 16, 2012
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Black Yoshi

So this is always a fun part:

HERE ARE POTENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR DOUBLE-VOTER:

Xhin, White Thunder, Feral, Kyon, Trever Leingod, Female Alpha Wolf, Shadowwalked

At this point, we can't really tell, but it can't be anyone else (unless I made a mistake).

Anyway, I don't think this means that we should lynch any of them in particular. Just point it out. When we narrow it down, we will be able to eliminate the double-voter, if you wish!

ANYWAY, who to kill, who to kill...

Obviously, we should not waste a kill on Zanic. If, for whatever reason, Zanic is NOT the Good Twin, he will be lynched. Can guarantee it.

As far as the list goes, I'll let the others decide. That way, I won't taint it with my own personal opinion. Majora would probably be able to read me fairly well compared to the others. What think you all?

August 16, 2012
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Yeano

To be perfectly honest, chiefsonny is high on the player points list because he survives nearly every game, and thus gets that extra point... almost every game.

He may be pretty dangerous later, but in the beginning of the game, he's not a big threat since all he wants to do is wait.

August 16, 2012
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Yeano

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the doctor or orange agent protects Majora or white lancer tonight.

They probably both think that Majora and white lancer would be high level targets given their insistence that Roxas was mafia - and he really was!

If you all want, we can still target Majora, though.

August 16, 2012
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Yeano

i would like to take out white lancer

August 16, 2012
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CtR Black

Then again, there's always the chance that Majora or Lancer is the Orange Agent. I'm still considering changing my vote here to Chief (even though Roxas will inevitably come back from the dead and haunt me to death if I do that), seeing how strong a player he is. You weren't around during Game 2, I don't think, when Chief was the Vigilante and I was Mafia, alongside Lancer, and he was able to convince the whole town that he was nothing special, so we were killing/lynching right around him...until Shadow fucked up at the end and voted Chief out instead (or was that the other way around...I can't remember).

Therefore, rescinding my vote for now pending further discussion.

August 16, 2012
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Black Yoshi

I can say that there's a damned good chance that Redack is the Gambler, since he told Roxas that his role "sucked" -- similar to what Chief told us upon revealing last game.

August 16, 2012
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Black Yoshi

Also DAMMIT HEZEKIAH NOW I'VE GOT THAT SONG STUCK IN MY HEAD!

August 16, 2012
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Black Yoshi

{troll}

August 16, 2012
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hezekiah

So, CtR says Lancer...

After a ton of thought, I say MajorasMask9...though I'll probably regret that one in the morning-round...

August 16, 2012
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Black Yoshi

CtR Black - white lancer
Black Yoshi - MajorasMask9
Yeano - {duck}
Count Dooku - {duck}

8.5 hours remain in the night round.

August 16, 2012
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hezekiah

i do indeed want to hide lancers body if hes killed

August 16, 2012
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CtR Black

You can't officially say that you'll hide his body if he's killed, but you can say you'll hide his body if he's the mafia's target. The kill could be redirected or prevented, for instance. I'm going to assume that this was your intent, unless you tell me otherwise.

August 16, 2012
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hezekiah

I hate this. I really do. I THINK WE'RE WALKING INTO A TRAP.

Then again, both are serious players that we need to seriously watch out for!

Heads for lancer, Tails for Majora

August 16, 2012
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Yeano

I vote to kill white lancer.

Actually, even though this may be a trap, I actually think it would be a pretty good move. Doesn't seem like something I would do...

August 16, 2012
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Yeano

yeah hezy thats what i mean. i wanna hide the body if we vote to kill him

August 16, 2012
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CtR Black

CtR Black - white lancer
Black Yoshi - MajorasMask9
Yeano - white lancer
Count Dooku - {duck}

white lancer's body will be hidden

7 hours remain.

August 16, 2012
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hezekiah

3 hours remain. Sure wish you guys were, you know, discussing it. Where's Dooku, anyway?

August 16, 2012
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hezekiah

He said he's got some IRL issues to deal with -- see reply 1344991511.

August 16, 2012
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Black Yoshi

1 more hour.

August 17, 2012
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hezekiah

white lancer was the Townie.

August 17, 2012
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hezekiah

I call his role!

August 17, 2012
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CtR Black

only 13 more townies to go! :D

August 17, 2012
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CtR Black

Unfortunately, CtR, you can't just switch sides mid-game, else I might have done so almost immediately.

Anyway, seems Redack's figured out who the Orange Agent is. Therefore, we should take him out tonight, leaving the Town in the dark (unless the Orange Agent reveals, of course), giving us a better shot at, hopefully, taking out the Orange Agent later.

August 17, 2012
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Black Yoshi

...on second thought, perhaps we should leave him in play...what do you guys think?

August 17, 2012
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Black Yoshi

I'm talking about if they ask for a role reveal :p

I'm all for killing redack tonight. him, chiefsonny, or shadowwalked.

Personally if shadowwalked doesnt speak this round i'll think he's an important role trying to blend in.

but if we kill xhin the town might try and figure out why, and then go forward with his lynch everyone in the group that voted for roxas plan.

which is also why i dont want to kill mm9 cause he was against said plan.

so redack, mm9, or shadowwalked in my opinion

August 17, 2012
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CtR Black

redack, chiefsonny, or shadowwalked

August 17, 2012
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CtR Black

Well, whatever you guys do, make it count, because it looks as though I may not be around much longer. Damn, I'm a horrible Mafioso...

I know Yeano's a bit busy, and I know Dooku has IRL problems to deal with, so it's your call, CtR.

August 17, 2012
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Black Yoshi

I'm going against you full force. I have to. If I don't, Majora will suspect me. He knows my playing style.

It was nice to work with you, Black Yoshi. Your likely death will, hopefully, not be in vain!

August 17, 2012
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Yeano

Actually, Black Yoshi, your death could be very helpful.

You see my argument? I want you to claim that my argument is faulty because you assumed Majora was innocent since he was the first person to vote for `Roxas`, and a mafia member would never do that.

If about two more people vote for you, say that the town is making a big mistake because you're the Orange Agent.

This may not accomplish much but a speedier demise for you, but it may also be enough to make the real orange agent counter-claim.

August 17, 2012
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Yeano

Either way, it looks like I'm the one going down. Frankly, I've never died so early in the game before, not even in Game 1, when I was so nervous, I fucked up my first post by voting for the Doctor after he roleclaimed, and suddenly the whole town knew I was Mafia.

August 17, 2012
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Black Yoshi

yeah man. claim orange agent so we can know he his and SNAP HIS SHIT UP

August 17, 2012
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CtR Black

or doctor

August 17, 2012
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CtR Black

No, I think the Orange Agent is better since I have no idea whether or not the Doctor even protected anyone last night-round. We know the Agent didn't act at all since no one's body or house was burnt in the night.

August 17, 2012
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Black Yoshi

Or it could end up with you surviving longer if no one decides to speak up.

Either way, I think hopefully this will have a benefit for us.

August 18, 2012
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Yeano

...no it won't. Damn it all! Even if I did survive, I would have taken the lynch for someone next day-round anyway -- the pressure's starting to build on me, and it's playing with my mind in ways I daren't describe lest I give you nightmares...

August 18, 2012
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Black Yoshi

I think chiefsonny is the Orange Agent.

At least, he's my top suspect right now.

As soon as he saw you reveal that you were Orange Agent, he was convinced you were mafia. Other players, such as Majora and Female Alpha Wolf, quickly changed their votes away from you as soon as they saw your claim.

chiefsonny is more clever than to flat out reveal he's the Orange Agent, but based on his suspicions and careful nature (he would be one of the few people, in my opinion, who would not have targeted anyone last night for the sole reason that he's careful), I believe chiefsonny is the Orange Agent.

Now, hezekiah, I have a question for you.

Say the mafia targets to kill the Orange Agent in the night round. Who all would die in that scenario?

August 18, 2012
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Yeano

You may now vote for somebody to kill.

The Lazy Janitor may select up to 4 bodies to hide.

Yeano, I answered your question in the main thread.

August 18, 2012
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hezekiah

Hmmm... I still have suspicions of chiefsonny being the Orange Agent. Not entirely sure, but I would be willing to give 'im the axe.

Also, I will now analyze my double-voter list and see who is still a possibility.

August 18, 2012
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Yeano

So, we know that the double-voter necessarily DID vote this round.

Which means it is someone who didn't vote last round for Roxas (but also including White Thunder) AND did vote this round for Black Yoshi.

Xhin, White Thunder, Feral, Trever Leingod, Female Alpha Wolf

Well, narrowed down a little bit, but not much.

August 18, 2012
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Yeano

At the risk of getting myself killed, I vote...

chiefsonny

August 18, 2012
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Yeano

Good luck

not voting

August 19, 2012
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CtR Black

but i will hide chief's body

August 19, 2012
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CtR Black

chiefsonny was the Orange Agent.

August 19, 2012
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hezekiah

Wow, looks relatively good for us if you guys managed to kill the orange agent. And here I thought chiefsonny wasn't worth a night kill...

I may be somewhat more active from this point on, hopefully.

August 20, 2012
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Count Dooku

And for the record, I think Redack needs to die this night :P

August 20, 2012
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Count Dooku

i'm cool with redack dying. what are we going to do about the role reveal?

August 20, 2012
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CtR Black

Actually, I was thinking Redack should be our target too.

Unless, of course, something changes my mind during the round.

If the role reveal takes off, all of us need to claim Townie.

There's no other way to go.

August 20, 2012
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Yeano

The only 'safe' fake role claim would be if we kill the gambler and pretend to be him, but alas that's rather out of the question.

Xhin's more of an asset, going after Trever like he is. Might as well leave him alive until Trever gets lynched before we consider taking him out.

Redack seems the best bet right now when night eventually rolls around.

August 21, 2012
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Count Dooku

Not related all that much to the game, but I just have to say this.

When hezekiah revealed that chiefsonny was the Orange Agent, this song played in my head:



August 21, 2012
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Yeano

i'm tired of getting on here and seeing a new charge at someone with like ten replies lead by then. if all goes as plan, xhin lynches thunder, then looks guilty, then we can lynch then tomorrow

August 22, 2012
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CtR Black

lynch xhin*

August 22, 2012
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CtR Black

You may now vote for somebody to kill.

The Lazy Janitor may select up to 3 bodies to hide.

August 22, 2012
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hezekiah

I vote we kill Redack

August 22, 2012
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Count Dooku

yeano do you think we should kill redack?

he's pretty set on killing you. i think it'd make you look super suspicious if we did.

that being said, i feel like the rest of the town is clueless to us mafia members

August 22, 2012
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CtR Black

so my thoughts are: maybe if we ignore redack for for two or three rounds, noone will pay attention to him and the town wont lynch yeano, and then we can kill him and it wont look like we did it to defend yeano.

or, maybe we can get away with killing him this night and the town might forget to lynch yeano because they'll be too busy lynching xhin.

what do yall think?

August 22, 2012
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CtR Black

I'm still set on killing Redack.

This game has opened up the idea for massive WIFOM.

For those of you who don't know what WIFOM is, it stands for "Wine in front of me" from The Princess Bride.



It's a common mafia logical fallacy, I guess you can call it.

Essentially, it does put the town in a logical loop from which they can never make a good decision.

Here's how it would essentially play out. Well, obviously, Yeano is guilty since Redack suspected him. But by killing Redack off, maybe the mafia knew the town would suspect Yeano, so the mafia is trying to make Yeano look guilty even though he's actually innocent. But maybe Yeano expected us to think this far so he did it so it seems like the mafia is trying to frame him, but he is actually guilty afterall. Or maybe the mafia is trying to make it look like Yeano is sneaky enough to try to look innocent, so they're framing him this way. etc.

All that being said,

I vote Redack

August 22, 2012
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Yeano

Of course, that being said, there's a very good chance I die in the next day round.

I don't really have any parting strategies for you yet if my time on the mafia is limited, but if I will die soon, I will make sure to leave you some suggestions.

I'm not saying you have to follow them. I'm just saying that those are possibilities.

August 22, 2012
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Yeano

CtR, don't forget to let me know if you want to hide any bodies.

August 22, 2012
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hezekiah

yes, if they choose to kill redack, i will want his body hid

August 22, 2012
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CtR Black

I've heard from Majora that Redack is apparently the Gambler.

Since Majora knows, NO ONE CLAIM GAMBLER, even if Redack dies and his body is hidden.

If he told Majora, he probably told other people too.

August 22, 2012
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Yeano

Redack was the Gambler

August 22, 2012
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hezekiah

man, FUCK mm9 and feral for figuring out about xhin

August 23, 2012
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CtR Black

At this point the best idea for us is to kill the remaining role claims. If everyone is claiming townie it'll make it very hard for them to single us out.

Side note, Hezekiah, I seem to be having issue accessing this thread. The main game thread works fine, but the replies almost always vanish when I try to scroll down in this post. Its very annoying.

August 23, 2012
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Count Dooku

Yeano reported the same thing yesterday, and I have no idea what causes it... I experienced it exactly once, myself.

August 23, 2012
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hezekiah

yeah its happened to me a few times.

so apparently redack was suspicious of dooku? well fuck...

...

you two have fun getting out of this lol

August 23, 2012
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CtR Black

I want to kill Majora tonight =)

August 24, 2012
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Yeano

looks like i'm dead and gone tonight guys... shoulda killed marjora a long time ago

August 24, 2012
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CtR Black

You've only got two votes for you, and the round is going to end in a few hours. Granted, things could pick up, but honestly, in the interest of self-preservation, voting for either Shadowwalked or Trever should keep you alive if no one else votes for you.

This day round is dragging, and we can use that to our advantage with the low votes.

If anything, I would suggest that CtR votes for Trever and Dooku (if he wants) votes for Shadowwalked. But have good reasons to do so.

August 25, 2012
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Yeano

Or don't do that. It doesn't matter. We might be able to get away with this if people continue to be skeptical of everyone and not know what's going on.

August 25, 2012
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Yeano

Yeah i was planning on waiting till the round was about to end to change my vote, at least so i could hide one more body

August 25, 2012
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CtR Black

I'm still having huge trouble accessing this damn thread -_-

Right now I'm in relatively good standing with the town... Trever's already pointed out that I went after the Good Twin (which would have killed a mafia member)...

If it comes down to it, I will be voting against one of you to further increase my innocent position (if it appears you'll be lynched anyway). Hell, I'd vote for CTR Black if I hadn't stated I saw no reason to vote for him...

I expect you to do the same if the town begins voting for me.

August 25, 2012
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Count Dooku

Well we still got a lot of townies to go, but if we can lynch trevor, and kill marjora tonight that'll do us a lot of good.

August 25, 2012
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CtR Black

Hopefully the round ends before they can shuffle votes around, as you and me have both defended Trever now, and MM9 believes all three of us are mafia:

I'm willing to think a likely mafia trio would be CtR Black, Count Dooku, and Trever Leingod.

Hopefully if Trever dies we'll appear more innocent in the town's eyes.

I fully agree on killing MM9, he's the biggest threat to us right now. Xhin has been helpful so far, so he can live until he gets too close for comfort.

August 26, 2012
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Count Dooku

Just to be clear, I vote we kill MM9 this night round.

August 26, 2012
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Count Dooku

Vote for your kill. Janitor may select up to 2 bodies to hide.

August 26, 2012
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hezekiah

The current ratio (before this day round ends) is 3-8.

If we successfully kill Majora off tonight, his death and Trever's death will bring the ratio to 3-6.

This will put us in a very nice position. I mean, it is still possible to lose, but who knows.

I'm thinking of going after Xhin next day round. Who knows how it will play out, but I think we would have the most luck at eliminating Xhin. I may be able to conjure up a good argument against Frustro, but I think it would be far less likely to work. Plus, Frustro hasn't been particularly suspicious.

We may also be able to eliminate Jo Nathan in the day round. We can point him out as generally suspicious. We can even accuse him of probably being good at the game, but playing the role of the noob to throw us off. Who knows if it will work, but that should be good.

I actually see no need to kill off Frustro, believe it or not. True, Frustro could get in our way and screw things up for us, but if we can eliminate the right people, we could skate by without getting rid of Frustro, if need be.

August 26, 2012
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Yeano

I vote to kill MajorasMask9.

August 26, 2012
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Yeano

Shaddowalked is also a good target in my opinion. I think killing Xhin will be difficult, and frankly the attempt might backfire. I say let someone propose a lynch target tomorrow and assuming its not one of us, we'll make sure it passes.

August 26, 2012
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Count Dooku

I vote to kill MajorasMask9 as well

August 26, 2012
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Count Dooku

i've been hinting at how suspicious xhin is. i will attempt to get him lynched next round

i dont feel the need to kill frusto, as he thought me and trevor were in this together.

i will hide mm9's body

August 26, 2012
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CtR Black

The easiest day targets right now would be Feral, Xhin, and Jo Nathan, in my opinion.

If Frustro has the foresight to save Majora tonight (if possible), you will most likely have to do the rest without me. Majora will go after me in full force the next day round if he survives, and I think the town will go along with him.

August 26, 2012
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Yeano

why do you say that yeano? marjora's been pretty suspicious of me this whole game.

i think shadowwalked could be an easy target, due to his inactivity. we could call that suspicious.

let's just hope he doesnt try to save marjora. should we try n kill feral instead?

August 26, 2012
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CtR Black

If Frustro has the foresight to save Majora tonight (if possible), you will most likely have to do the rest without me. Majora will go after me in full force the next day round if he survives, and I think the town will go along with him.

If Frustro saves Majora tonight then we'll make sure Majora dies tomorrow night...

Killing the Distracted Doctor should definitely be high on our list though... They could become annoying as the number of possible people to protect is lowered...

August 26, 2012
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Count Dooku

I'd prefer we kill Feral at some point as well, just so he doesn't get a survival point this game. Some small 'revenge' for the stunt he pulled last game :P

August 26, 2012
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Count Dooku

No, we need to attempt to kill Majora.

Even if he is saved, you can always kill him the following night since Doctor can't save the same person two nights in a row.

You can try to kill Shadowwalked if you want. That works.

August 26, 2012
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Yeano

oh sorry, thought u said feral was the doctor, which is why i suggested killing him.

August 26, 2012
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CtR Black

This PM system couldn't have come at a worse time. I would not at all be surprised if Majora contacted Frustro to save him.

Which means the only two ways Majora would die is if Frustro doesn't believe Majora (unlikely) or Frustro tried to protect Majora last night round.

Oh well.

If you two want to change your votes, you can, but I'm keeping it.

August 26, 2012
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Yeano

Actually,

I change my vote to Frustro

August 26, 2012
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Yeano

So right now you've got 1 vote to kill Majora, 1 vote to kill Frustro. And Majora's body to be hidden. As the Lazy Janitor, Count Dooku would break a tie if there's the same number of votes to kill one or more persons.

August 26, 2012
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hezekiah

uh i wannna kill marjora and hide his body

August 26, 2012
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CtR Black

MajorasMask9 was the Townie

August 26, 2012
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hezekiah

I'm as good as dead today.

The next day round, I suggest going after Xhin.

You can use the argument that Xhin and I were in it together and Xhin knew I was up the creek. That being said, Xhin voted for me knowing I would die, and then, taking myself as a sacrifice, I attacked Xhin hard, making it look like he was innocent, since a Mafia member was attacking him.

I think that's a viable strategy.

Anyway, my suggestions for who to kill in the night are the people you think you can't kill in the day.

August 26, 2012
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Yeano

ok, i was going to maybe wait the whole round and then post if it was too late to save you, but i think it'll look better for me if i vote for you. sorry bro. good game though

August 26, 2012
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CtR Black

if you can persuade 3 people we can stack votes and then it'll be 3-5 next round.

August 26, 2012
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CtR Black

Or you could kill Xhin in the night if you want.

It's all up to you!

August 26, 2012
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Yeano

You may now vote for somebody to kill.

The Lazy Janitor may select up to 1 body to hide.

August 27, 2012
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hezekiah

This is excellent... we're literally a round away from winning with a good player count...

I say we go for Feral tomorrow, and hard. Jo Nathan and Shadowwalked already suspect him. Thats all we need to win this tomorrow.

My main concern is who we kill tonight... I'd really like to kill the doctor (since MM9 wasn't protected I suspect the doctor protected himself, meaning he cannot protect himself again tonight) but I'd hate for us to miss a chance to kill someone...

I really think we should leave Shadowwalked and Jo Nathan alive for a Feral vote.

So we kill either:

Frustro
FAW

I'll let you guys decide though...

August 27, 2012
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Count Dooku

I think we should kill shadowwalked. He's really smart. He thought that xhin was mafia, but now he knows he's not. I think he's the biggest threat

August 27, 2012
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CtR Black

I agree with killing Shadowwalked.

I would like to kill Frustro, but quite honestly, you might be able to get Jo Nathan to go along with a lynch on Frustro in the last day.

Honestly, though, I don't think there's a good chance that we get anyone tomorrow.

If I was 90% sure I would die today, I'm 98% sure I will die tomorrow.

This means that we have to kill someone tonight and Night 6, and then in Day 7, you have to get someone who is innocent dead.

To be quite honest, the double-voter is extremely dangerous with such low numbers, so for the next night kill, I would honestly go after Female Alpha Wolf, if I were you two.

Anyway, that being said,

I vote to kill Shadowwalked

August 27, 2012
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Yeano

Guess it depends...

Shadowwalked said this:

To further on Yeano's theory, Feral has played this game far too many times to still be 'in the dark'. Given the limited time I've had to read over the threads, it still looks like someone has been putting the town on a loop. He voted immediately after Xhin voted, which I believe is a slip. They're likely counting on the whole town turning on Yeano today, and might not have seen the danger of posting directly after each other.

Which makes me think he'd go for a Feral lynch, but I'm unsure. I'll vote however you guys want.

If we fail to make a kill tonight, its very likely we'll need to vote for Yeano to appear innocent to the town.

August 27, 2012
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Count Dooku

Okay lets just speed this along then.

I vote we kill Shadowwalked.

August 27, 2012
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Count Dooku

What you quoted, though, was Shadowwalked acting under the assumption that I was innocent and Xhin was mafia. The exact opposite is true.

Shadowwalked is the type of person who would completely reevaluate his stance after a day round like this.

August 27, 2012
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Yeano

Yeah, I realized that after I reread his entire post.

You should make up another wall of text Yeano. That seemed to work very well this last round at getting them all on your side...

August 27, 2012
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Count Dooku

uhhh i wanna hide shadowwalkeds body

August 27, 2012
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CtR Black

nevermind no i dont

August 27, 2012
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CtR Black

You made no indication that you wanted to hide his body, so I took that to mean you didn't. Tough shit, quite frankly.

August 27, 2012
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hezekiah

Good luck!

I cut it short because I didn't want suspicious people like Jo and Feral to have a chance to defend themselves.

I also didn't want to make Dooku look suspicious either.

August 27, 2012
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Yeano

later bro! great game man, great game

August 27, 2012
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CtR Black

You may now vote for somebody to kill.

The Lazy Janitor may select up to 1 body to hide.

August 27, 2012
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hezekiah

dooku im thinnking feral huh?

whomever we kill i wish to hide his bod

August 27, 2012
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CtR Black

Well :/ I think we should still try to say Feral is mafia... I dunno...

Should we try to kill Frustro?

August 27, 2012
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Count Dooku

frusto thinks jo nathan is mafia. if he votes for him we just gotta stack and win

August 27, 2012
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CtR Black

Okay, deal. Kill Feral hide the body.

August 27, 2012
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Count Dooku

For the record, Hezekiah, I believe you've severely handicapped my strategy for this game... I was going to vote for Yeano, but by the time I'd gone and taken a shower the round was over >.<

August 27, 2012
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Count Dooku

Feral was the Townie.

August 27, 2012
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hezekiah

We need to play carefully here CTR.

Unfortunately, I may get called into work at any point in the next two hours. We could lose simply because I'm not here to defend myself/you/come up with reasoning to lynch one of them instead.

Just don't jump to a lynch vote yet. Try to find some behavior pattern on one of them we can exploit for victory.

I think we really messed up killing Feral. FAW has a relatively solid claim on Double Voter and Frustro claims Doctor (Frustro never saved anyone though... possible 'real doctor dead frustro is mafia' strategy?) meaning we can only really go after Jo Nathan...

August 27, 2012
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Count Dooku

Yeah, we screwed the pooch. Should have killed the doctor a lot earlier. No way they'll go after FAW (solid double voter) so the only chance we have is this 'fake doctor' card I'm pulling. If they lynch me I guarantee you they'll lynch you first thing tomorrow.

Point out how they voted at almost the same time and without any reason for why they should lynch me....

August 27, 2012
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Count Dooku

hey buddy let's stir the pot around a lil bit ;) ima put you in cohoots with frusto. i think we need to leave faw alone

August 27, 2012
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CtR Black

Jo... it has to be Jo if we're going to win... But don't vote for him just yet (unless he has 2 votes and you'd end the game). Hopefully FAW and Frustro will vote for Jo and then I can be the nail in the coffin (I plan to vote for him before heading to work in ~2 hours)

Just try to make a convincing post where you suspect everyone BUT Jo Nathan and yourself.

August 27, 2012
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Count Dooku

Yeah that's what i'm gonna try to do.

Frusto thinks you're innocent. If i make myself and jo look guilty- one of us will get lynched.

if they lynch me you can kill off faw in the night, and it'll be up to frusto to pick between you and jo.

but, it's possible they're want to lynch today and hope to lynch me tomorrow

August 27, 2012
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CtR Black

Thats what I hope. I really want to try and get them to do Jo in...

Just don't go too hard after Frustro. The last thing we need is for you to tick him off and get a vote from him. Then Jo will vote for you and FAW might too.

Be more suspicious of me and FAW than Frustro basically...

August 27, 2012
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Count Dooku

CTR you gotta cast your vote man... we have got this in the bag...

August 27, 2012
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Count Dooku

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