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journalist thread

Posted September 24, 2014 by Helius

hezekiah, you are a clever writer. You'll be able to stake out someone every night and see who comes and goes. Then you'll be able to write up an article, and I'll post it for you in the main thread.

If you get someone lynched because of your mad words, you'll get +1.

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How about Ghowlio tonight.

September 24, 2014
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hezekiah

Ghowilo steps out into the hall briefly and then steps back inside to the lock the door. No one comes to visit him.

September 25, 2014
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Helius

Extra, extra, extra, extra! The [''r]mafia[/''r] have come to the SkyPlex! Whatever will we do?


September 26, 2014
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hezekiah

I always forget how doing [r]this[/r] works... ignore the last post, corrected article incoming.

September 26, 2014
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hezekiah

Extra, extra, extra, extra! The [r]mafia[/r] have come to the SkyPlex! Whatever will we do?


September 26, 2014
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hezekiah

You may now choose your night actions

September 28, 2014
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Helius

Apollo Justice

September 29, 2014
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hezekiah

Apollo Justice stays in her room all night.

September 30, 2014
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Helius

What kind of info would be useful, CtR Black? Telling the town you're [r]mafia[/r], perhaps?


October 1, 2014
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hezekiah

What's your motivation for such things?

October 1, 2014
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Helius

I don't care who wins. Bandit pretty much hit the nail on the head.

I expected CtR to claim a role if he were anything but Townie, but he hasn't even posted since my article. If he does come out as some town power role (and nobody counters him), I might reveal as Journalist and see where that goes.

If they end up lynching him, I'm kinda figuring it'll end up that the town will need to trust me eventually to avoid a defeat. Either way, my attention is quite divided due to my move so I'm not taking the game super seriously.

October 1, 2014
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hezekiah

I see.

October 1, 2014
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Helius

I'm with Jo on that :-P

October 1, 2014
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hezekiah

You may track someone.

October 3, 2014
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Helius

So you tell me 1) if my target takes a night action (as Ghowlio did) and if anybody performs a night action on the target (hasn't happened yet), right?

Any mafia member I target would be shown as leaving the house, correct?

Tonight I'm gonna have myself a real good time... by keeping an eye on `Roxas`.

October 3, 2014
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hezekiah

Yes.

Yes.

October 3, 2014
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Helius

How do I register the Godfather / mafia in general? Do the meet at the Godfather's house, or do all go to the target's house?

Do Special Club members do any moving around at night? What if there's only 1 alive? Guessing they leave house regardless.

Does the Admirer do anything at night? Guessing no. Ditto for the Apprentice.

Could the Doctor save somebody during Night 0? Guessing yes.


Assuming my guesses are all correct, that means Ghowlio is one of Tracker, Doctor, Special Club, Investigator, Silencer. I had misunderstood your message about him back after Night 0, thinking you had meant that he didn't leave his house at all. Reading it yesterday made me realize that he DID take a night action.

October 3, 2014
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hezekiah

How do I register the Godfather / mafia in general?


You would see them leave, but not the destination. Likewise, if they were to visit someone, you'd see whoever took the action enter and then leave.

Do Special Club members do any moving around at night? What if there's only 1 alive? Guessing they leave house regardless.


You would see them leave.

Does the Admirer do anything at night? Guessing no. Ditto for the Apprentice.


Admirer would do the same thing as the Apprentice would up until that time they were to take those roles. Technically, they have a "role" but don't do anything until someone dies.

Could the Doctor save somebody during Night 0? Guessing yes.


Doctor doesn't save anyone on Night 0, but they still move. If that makes sense. I think there was precedence set some other game on that.

Assuming my guesses are all correct, that means Ghowlio is one of Tracker, Doctor, Special Club, Investigator, Silencer. I had misunderstood your message about him back after Night 0, thinking you had meant that he didn't leave his house at all. Reading it yesterday made me realize that he DID take a night action.


I'll leave you to figure that one out.

October 3, 2014
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Helius

Roxas leaves the house and returns shortly before dawn.

October 4, 2014
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Helius

This just gets better and better... I need to do some research for who I should make them kill today. Hopefully tomorrow afternoon, but I have incredibly limited internet availability. Ghow is definitely acting off, but haven't analyzed Roxas much yet.

October 5, 2014
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hezekiah

Sky Times Evening Edition

This morning's paper was cancelled due to unforseen circumstances. Authorities believe Roxas to be responsible, but the only evidence is that he was seen leaving his house last night. We hope to have more for you on this story in tomorrow's edition of Sky Times.

October 5, 2014
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hezekiah

Done-er-roo

October 6, 2014
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Helius

All mafia members (even the Godfather) leave their house every night, which I can see. Essentially they'd meet at some secret location I don't know about.
Whoever is the first vote for their lynch target visits that person's house, but I cannot see the Godfather visit the house of their kill if he is the first to vote.

The Tracker and Doctor and Serial Killer leave their house every night (even if no target is selected), and go to the house of their target if one is chosen.

The Special Club leave their house every night, meeting at an unknown location.

The Guard and Granny and Townies and Admirer do not leave their house at night.

---

Is all this correct?

October 6, 2014
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hezekiah

Yes

Admirer would do the same thing as the Apprentice would up until that time they were to take those roles. Technically, they have a "role" but don't do anything until someone dies.


October 6, 2014
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Helius

You may now choose your night action.

October 7, 2014
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Helius

Time to look back at the game and see what I think...

Possibly Silenced:
Day 1: white lancer, EvilGuy0613
Day 2: SDYoshi, Pirate_Ninja, Apollo Justice (claim)
Day 3: SDYoshi, Jo Nathan
I think it was white lancer / Apollo Justice / Jo Nathan

SDYoshi - Only 1 post all game, gonna do anything about him?
Black Yoshi - Hesitant to trust me, possible baddie (SK?)
Jo Nathan - Silenced Day 3, likely innocent
Lightvayne - Thought Roxas was claiming Granny on Day 1, otherwise content to follow instead of lead
MajorasMask9 - Hesitant to trust me, Roxas claims he's next death. I don't believe it.
EvilGuy0613 - Skating by with minimal participation
Lady Flare - Think she's innocent, but also keeps harping on SDYoshi.
Pirate Ninja - VERY quiet, leaning towards townie
Ghowilo - Moved Night 0
The Bandit - Special Club
Apollo Justice - Silenced Day 2, likely innocent
Superbird Kyon - Guard
Bubba - Fairly benign

Special Club
Doctor
Guard
Tracker
Granny
Townie (x3)

Godfather
Investigator
Mafiioso

Serial Killer
Admirer

Guess that means I think the baddies are SDYoshi, Black Yoshi, Ghowlio, EvilGuy0613 and MajorasMask9.


For tonight, suppose I'll watch Black Yoshi.

October 7, 2014
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hezekiah

Must be the end of daylight savings, this night has been at least an hour longer than normal.

October 9, 2014
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hezekiah

Black Yoshi goes nowhere and no one comes to see him.

October 9, 2014
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Helius

Just testing what the code is for cyan...

October 9, 2014
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hezekiah

This is a DRAFT of my article, not for posting (yet)

[ha][b]Trouble in the SkyPlex[/b][/ha]
[i]By SDYoshi[/i]

Ghowlio is NOT the Tracker, and presumed to be mafia. He was sighted leaving the house back on Night 0, at which point the true Apprentice would have been fast asleep. The Editorial Board of [b]Sky Times[/b] suggests that Ghowlio be put to death.

October 9, 2014
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hezekiah

Trouble in the SkyPlex
By SDYoshi

Ghowlio is NOT the Tracker, and presumed to be mafia. He was sighted leaving the house back on Night 0, at which point the true Apprentice would have been fast asleep. The Editorial Board of Sky Times suggests that Ghowlio be put to death.

October 9, 2014
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hezekiah

Alright, formatting looks good...

[ha][b]Trouble in the SkyPlex[/b][/ha]
[i]By SDYoshi[/i]

Ghowlio is NOT the Tracker, and presumed to be mafia. He was sighted leaving the house back on Night 0, at which point the true Apprentice would have been fast asleep. The Editorial Board of [b]Sky Times[/b] suggests that Ghowlio be put to death.


October 9, 2014
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hezekiah

You are an evil person... lol... I didn't notice that you put SDYoshi into the field until I posted it.

October 10, 2014
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Helius

My current theory is that the mafia found out that SDYoshi is the Tracker, and they wanted to get him killed off by making the first move.

Have you considered whether I'll get points for influencing Guard kills?

October 10, 2014
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hezekiah

I haven't considered it. Technically though, you did influence the Guard to act.

October 10, 2014
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Helius

It'd probably be good if you clarified in the main thread that all mafia members leave their houses every night... there's clearly some confusion about that.

October 10, 2014
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hezekiah

Specifically because Majora is trying to convince the town that I couldn't've known CtR was the Marksman because he didn't move at night.

I really want SDYoshi to show up. That'll be interesting, IF HE EVER POSTS AGAIN.

October 10, 2014
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hezekiah

SDYoshi - Probably innocent, based on Ghowilo's attack. Might even be the Tracker
Black Yoshi - Hesitant to trust me, possible baddie (SK?)
Lightvayne - Thinking he's innocent
MajorasMask9 - Been siding with Ghowilo, gotta be aware
EvilGuy0613 - Skating by with minimal participation
Pirate Ninja - Dunno
Ghowilo - Moved Night 0, trying my best to get him killed :-/
Apollo Justice - Silenced Day 2, likely innocent
Superbird Kyon - Guard
Bubba - Fairly benign

October 11, 2014
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hezekiah

Well this round didn't turn out right at all...

October 12, 2014
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hezekiah

Fuck the non-participants.

October 12, 2014
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hezekiah

You may now choose your night actions.

October 12, 2014
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Helius

Ghowilo steps out into the hall briefly and then steps back inside to the lock the door


Does this mean that Ghowilo had a night action on Night 0? If it doesn't, you've seriously led me astray.


I'll watch Bubba tonight.

October 12, 2014
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hezekiah

You made an assumption. I stated multiple times what would happen. (look)

October 12, 2014
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Helius

Q: So you tell me if my target takes a night action, as Ghowlio did?

A: Yes.

Edited for clarity, but the question is the same as 1412359533



I've lost all motivation to play this game. Congrats.

October 12, 2014
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hezekiah

WHY'D YOU SAY HE LEFT HIS APARTMENT IF HE DIDN'T LEAVE HIS APARTMENT

October 12, 2014
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hezekiah

Admirer would do the same thing as the Apprentice would up until that time they were to take those roles[as in action]. Technically, they have a "role" but don't do anything until someone dies [as in role].


Ghowilo steps out into the hall briefly and then steps back inside to the lock the door. No one comes to visit him.


October 12, 2014
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Helius

You definitely could've written that a ton more clearly... "Ghowilo steps out into the hall briefly" sure sounds to me like "Ghowilo stepped out to do something".

Your statements made me believe that Ghowilo had a night action on Night 0, and that the Apprentice did not. The combination of those two made me sure that Ghowilo was not the Tracker.

Why on earth did you simply say Yes to my question instead of clarifying it then? Would've saved a shitload of trouble, and not left me unable to influence any more lynches. What am I supposed to say to the town tomorrow? "Hey guys, Helius didn't tell me that Ghowilo didn't take an action on Night 0, but you can totally trust me again now" maybe?

October 13, 2014
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hezekiah

Well, looking back at the other threads, I realized I made a mistake. I think the way I had it set up, needed to be more clearly defined than what it is in the descriptions for the roles. It's something that I'll bring up with Apollo and MM9.

As far as influencing townies, you could say that. I'd back you up on that as well; however, regardless, I'm thinking about taking away some of my points, and giving you some points because of my screw ups. It doesn't quite fix things, but meh.

October 13, 2014
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Helius

Hey SDYoshi, what were you doing at lightvaynes house last night?


Does the Tracker see all mafia members visit the Godfather? You stated earlier in this thread that I don't see the mafia members go to anybody's house for their group meeting, but it sounds like the Tracker would. Is this right? And what if the Tracker targeted the Godfather?

If I'm mistaken, then what explanations could there be for a mafioso visiting someone who was not killed?

October 13, 2014
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hezekiah

The way I have been playing it... Tracker only sees the current Mafia member who they are tracking go to the Godfather's House. So if the Tracker had tracked `Roxas`...

`Roxas` goes to the Godfather's (with name replaced) House.

^ That is what they would see. I did that in efforts to make the game a bit more balanced because I didn't think that

`Roxas` goes to the Godfather's house and oh, by the way, X, Y, and Z were there.

Mainly because if someone were to guess Mafia correctly off the bat, then those Mafia were good as dead.

October 13, 2014
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Helius

Yeah, that makes sense. I don't think the Tracker in previous games got to see everybody else who went to the same location as their target.

--- THEORY LINE ---

Ghowilo's report would mean that Lightvayne is the Godfather, so he's probably next to go. Maybe the SK will off him tonight, even. Regardless, I plan to write tomorrow's article in order to get him lynched (the town will probably want to do so anyway).


Black Yoshi - Hesitant to trust me, possible baddie (new SK?)
Lightvayne - Godfather
MajorasMask9 - Been siding with Ghowilo, gotta be aware
EvilGuy0613 - Skating by with minimal participation, but I'm thinking innocent
Pirate Ninja - Dunno
Ghowilo - Tracker
Apollo Justice - Silenced Day 2, likely innocent
Superbird Kyon - Guard
Bubba - Fairly benign

My checks: Ghowilo (Tracker), AJ (no action, but possible SK), Roxas (Silencer), BY (no action, but possible SK), Bubba (pending)

Unknown players: BY, MM9, EG, PN, AJ, Bubba
Unknown roles: Granny, Townie (x3), Investigator, SK

October 13, 2014
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hezekiah

Did you want to check someone?

October 13, 2014
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Helius

I'll watch Bubba tonight.


My checks: Ghowilo (Tracker), AJ (no action, but possible SK), Roxas (Silencer), BY (no action, but possible SK), Bubba (pending)


Bubba, please.

October 13, 2014
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hezekiah

Been waiting all evening for the next round...{n}

October 14, 2014
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hezekiah

Bubba moves away from his house at night and comes back at dawn.

October 14, 2014
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Helius

{y}

October 14, 2014
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hezekiah

So, shouldn't I have seen the Serial Killer visit Bubba?

October 14, 2014
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hezekiah

Serial Killer is immune to Night Detection.

So from here on out, it's basically deduction.

October 14, 2014
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Helius

Hm, oh well. Article incoming.

October 14, 2014
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hezekiah

That is part of the problem with how the roles are set up. If I had a Cop instead of a Tracker, does that mean that the Serial Killer couldn't be checked out? Also does the same thing happen to the Admirer if the Serial Killer isn't alive?

October 14, 2014
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Helius

Here's the scoop. On night 0, Helius said that Ghowilo stepped out into the hall. Turns that was just some flavor added, and Ghowilo didn't actually have a night action. Only after SDYoshi's death did I find out that I had been given misleading information. Helius said he'd back me up on this, so now you can see that I've been helping the town the whole game.

I initially thought about keeping an eye on Lightvayne tonight, but realized that wouldn't really help anything. Decided on Bubba cuz it was as good a chance as any. Turns out he was mafia, but the SK didn't like him either. So, disappointing.

So yeah. Kill Lightvayne.


--- (that's the end of the article) ---

Typed into wolframalpha: md5(So yeah. Kill Lightvayne.)

October 14, 2014
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hezekiah

Was I supposed to put that last part?

October 14, 2014
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Helius

You did it correctly, thanks.

Also, want to point out that the only way the Serial Killer can win is if the town lynches the Granny. Which, if the town is smart, they'll never do.

I guess tomorrow (should I make it that far) I'll start telling the town to lynch people who I've seen stay at home... which is BY and AJ. Don't plan on investigating anybody else this game, only non-empty result would be my death at the hands of the Granny.

October 14, 2014
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hezekiah

Hrm.

October 14, 2014
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Helius

Not much sense in planning too far ahead, since I'm assuming Ghowilo and I will be the next SK targets just because we're confirmed not to be the Granny.

Can I "pre-publish" stories to be posted in upcoming day rounds in the event that I'm killed?

October 14, 2014
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hezekiah

I suppose

October 15, 2014
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Helius

Nice, I'll work on the decision tree at some point.

---

No reason whatsoever to believe Lightvayne's claim about PN being the SK.

October 15, 2014
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hezekiah

Well now that the Granny's revealed, I have some more deciding to do. I'm considering pointing out for the SK's benefit that killing me gets rid of his only shot at winning, as no townie would ever vote for Majora.

Sadly, with Majora revealing, my knowledge that AJ and BY aren't the Granny is now useless.

BY
AJ
Evilguy
PN

I'm planning to try and get Evilguy lynched tomorrow, but that may change. I expect Ghowilo to die tonight.

October 15, 2014
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hezekiah

5/8 isn't 2/3...

October 15, 2014
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hezekiah

So can I do night things?

October 16, 2014
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hezekiah

5.3 is... I rounded down though since it wasn't greater than .5 . Yeah, you can do night things.

October 16, 2014
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Helius

Had I known that 5 votes would end the round, I would've made a point of making my observation to the SK earlier.


In the event that I die, cycle through the remaining players in the following order, skipping anyone who's dead:
Although I'm dead now, I'll still suggest you kill INSERT_PLAYER_HERE. Nobody can know for sure who the Serial Killer is, but my guess is as good as yours.

Replace INSERT_PLAYER_HERE with, in order: EvilGuy0613, Black Yoshi, Apollo Justice, Pirate_Ninja. Then repeat the order as needed.

Tonight I'll watch Ghowilo.

October 16, 2014
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hezekiah

(sad)

October 17, 2014
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hezekiah

Ghowilo goes off into the night, but no one comes to see him.

October 17, 2014
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Helius

I also had to work late tonight so I didn't get a chance to update it till now. (:S)

And I go in early tomorrow and Saturday! {boo}

October 17, 2014
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Helius

My guess is as good as yours, so how about we kill EvilGuy0613 today?


October 17, 2014
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hezekiah

I'm just worried the town might decide to kill me to make sure they don't lose, but I doubt they'd waste a lynch that way.

October 17, 2014
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hezekiah

Rounds should not be 3 days any more. Maybe 1 day?

October 19, 2014
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hezekiah

Well I believe a No Kill today would mean they couldn't afford to waste a day killing me (assuming the SK actually participates). So whatever.

October 19, 2014
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hezekiah

Well, the problem with that is ... I work 4 out of the 7 days in varying fashions so it would be difficult for me to update every day, but I'll consider it.

October 19, 2014
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Helius

I'll watch Ghowilo tonight!

If the SK doesn't kill anybody tonight, I should be more able to convince Majora to lay off of me. Mathematically I might be able to show that leaving me be gives a better shot at winning, and Ghowilo seems less eager to off me:
G-T-t-t - J - S entering D7
G-T-t - J - S entering N7
G-t - J - S entering D8
G - J - S entering N8
Then if the SK kills me, it'll be a draw. If he doesn't, I might write an article about lynching myself, just in case they decide to team up and MAKE it a draw. If it ends up as a NK, then the following day I'd actually say who I want to die. I'm even considering trying to make a deal with the SK to lynch me instead of nightkill so that I end with the same amount of points but he still gets the win.


Of course, if the SK DOES kill tonight...
G-t-t - J - S entering D7
G-t - J - S entering N7
G-t - S or G - J - S entering D8


We'll see what happens.

October 20, 2014
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hezekiah

Ghowilo leaves but does not return.

October 21, 2014
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Helius

I watched Ghowilo again last night, but as expected didn't see anybody visit him.

I think P_N's the best bet for today.


I had come to that conclusion prior to seeing BY's post, but didn't get a chance to post until now. Let's see what happens.

October 21, 2014
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hezekiah

My hunch is actually that AJ is the SK, based on activity levels. But I doubt I could convince Majora to follow me in that direction. So yup.

October 21, 2014
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hezekiah

If I get lynched, here's tomorrow's article for if Apollo Justice gets killed tonight:
Yeah, still saying P_N's the best bet...{boo}


If AJ doesn't get killed tonight, then this is my article:
Sure seems to me like Apollo Justice is the more likely Serial Killer...{boo}


October 22, 2014
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hezekiah

Due to Majora's attitude towards me these past few rounds, I do plan to let the SK win if it's not P_N; I will ask them to let me be lynched by the two of us instead of just nightkilling me so that I can get that extra +1.

October 23, 2014
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hezekiah

Damn it AJ, why couldn't you have just voted for P_N...

October 23, 2014
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hezekiah

If they lynch me, then the SK should No Kill tonight and make the town take the 1 in 3 of winning.

If they lynch one of the townie claims, the SK kills me or nobody or a townie
-If the SK kills me, it's a 50% probability of town winning and 50% draw
-If the SK kills nobody, it's 2-1-1 and I reveal that I want the SK to win. I propose lynching the remaining players one by one, starting with Majora. The SK would probably* go along with this, and the townie either will or won't.
--If the townie does, Majora is lynched and then either the SK double-crosses me by nightkilling me or the townie, or doesn't kill anyone.
---If the SK double-crosses me, obviously the SK wins. I might be the last other player alive and get myself lynched or not, who knows.
---If the SK doesn't kill anyone N8, then I pick one to lynch and either end up with a survival point (if it's the SK) or possibly another influence point (if it's the townie and the SK lets me live to the next day)
--If the townie doesn't, the vote likely ends up tied (Majora + Townie vs me + SK). The SK kills the townie, and we proceed to...
-If the SK kills a townie, it's 1-1-1 and I help the SK win.

October 23, 2014
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hezekiah

There's also the possibility that nobody dies today, in which case the SK can kill someone and get it to the 2-1-1 case. I'm hoping to be around to point that out should the round appear to be ending tied.

October 23, 2014
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hezekiah

Bullshit bullshit bullshit

October 24, 2014
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hezekiah

This thread is locked