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mafia game 3 thread 4 night 4 the cults chanting is intimidating

Posted April 14, 2012 by Yeano

Continued from [p:62668].

Day 4

In the middle of the night... Something happened! Like always! And someone died! Poor hezekiah was found with a knife sticking out of his chest. The townie will be missed greatly.

1. white lancer - Mason
2. Shadowwalked
3. #85 - Townie
4. `Roxas`
5. Xhin - Cultist
6. poptart!
7. Zanic
8. hezekiah - Townie
9. Knukles2000 - Silencer
10. CtR Black
11. MajorasMask9
12. LLight
13. chiefsonny
14. Teddy-Son

Mafia-Town-Cult Ratio: 1-5-3

Roles: Godfather, Silencer, Cop, Doctor, Mason, Cult, Townie

72 hours or 6 votes.

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There are 37 Replies


Right now if we lynch the godfather we'll pretty much autowin. If the masons know the identity of the godfather, they should definitely say something today. If not, feel free to sit back.

With the godfather dead, there will be an almost impossible chance for the cultists to come out with a win due to the ratio of cultists, masons, and unconverted town-sided roles.

Going to hold my vote until any info comes up.

April 14, 2012
MajorasMask9

With the godfather dead, there will be an almost impossible chance for the cultists to come out with a win due to the ratio of cultists, masons, and unconverted town-sided roles.

I just want to know what makes you think we will beat out the Cultists? I mean, they have three guys. There are *currently* three or four unconverted Townies, depending on whether the Mason recruited somebody. That means, at best, there is 2 Mason-3 Townie-3 Cultist ratio. The Cult still has a shot at beating us in this game.

EDIT: We also got lucky that the Mafia didn't take out a Mason last night. They are our last line of defense against the Cult.

April 14, 2012
`Roxas`

Well guys, i'm a mason. And I was trying to tell you who White Lancer tried to convert last round. so ima let you do the research

April 14, 2012
CtR Black

Check it: For this, let's assume the godfather gets lynched this round.

Night 4: The ratio is 3(cult)-2(masons)-3(other town).

The worst case scenario for the town in this case would be if the cult recruited one of the three townies, and the masons recruited a cultist, killing the cultist. Let's assume that happens.

Day 5: Ratio is 3(c)-2(m)-2(t)

Let's assume we all agree on no-lynching. Nobody dies in the day round. The ratio is the same for the night round. Now assume the cult recruits one of the two townies again, and the masons recruit a cultist again, killing that cultist.

Day 6: Ratio is 3(c)-2(m)-1(t)

Again, assume the town plays it safe and decides to no-lynch. The only way the cult can win in this game is if they manage to recruit the lone unconverted townie. If they recruit a mason, they lose their numbers and significantly lose almost all hope of winning. This is assuming they manage to get this far without unknowingly converting a mason.

The odds are far from in their favor if we lynch the godfather now.

April 14, 2012
MajorasMask9

CTR: So you're saying Teddy is the godfather?

April 14, 2012
MajorasMask9

yes i am. i was really surprised i wasnt killed last night. i figured that if you all didnt get what i was saying, teddy would at least know that i knew

April 14, 2012
CtR Black

Makes sense, I guess.

April 14, 2012
`Roxas`

Voting for Teddy-Son.

April 14, 2012
MajorasMask9

i vote for teddy-son as well

April 14, 2012
CtR Black

It seems that the game could still go either way in that case.

I also vote for Teddy-Son.

April 14, 2012
`Roxas`

Actually, remember that the cult still needs to successfully recruit people in order to win. There's the chance that they could target a mason on accident, and the second they do that it's game over for them.

I think it would be best for the other mason to keep quiet for now.

April 14, 2012
MajorasMask9

Yeah, but there is still a more likely chance that they hit a Townie than a Mason.

April 14, 2012
`Roxas`

I'll throw on my vote for Teddy-Son.

I think it would be best for the other mason to keep quiet for now.

I agree. Since the Mafia will be going down tonight, there isn't a point to revealing the last Mason. It would just be helping the cult out.

April 14, 2012
Shadowwalked

@Roxas: Maybe initially, but by Night 5 (assuming worst case scenario happens this night) it will be a 50% chance, and in the final night it will be a 33% chance. It's probably even worse than that depending on the masons' actions.

April 14, 2012
MajorasMask9

Votes as the stand:

Teddy-Son: 4 (MM9, CtR, Roxas, Shadowwalked)
Yet to respond: 5 (chiefsonny, LLight, poptart! Zanic, Teddy-Son)

@MM9: I see what you mean. I guess for the Cult it's a matter of luck. Same goes for the Town.

April 14, 2012
`Roxas`

Really? You are going against me? The guy who was trying to bring humor to the mafia game instead of watch you guys rip each other apart? That's what I like to do, keep the peace. Have you seen me in Pointless trying to stop fights? Okay I stopped because it became pointless trying to stop fights when it never works.

Lynch me if you want and then you all get mad at each other. And, I still have no one I want to vote against I can never figure my choices I guess sorry.

Edit: Also I am not mad just upset that I can never figure what to choose who to pick and what to decide despite all these days of going through all I see is this game can lead to people ripping each other apart.

April 14, 2012
Teddy-Son

The mason has already confirmed that white lancer targeted you, which is why he died. Meaning, you'd have to be mafia.

April 14, 2012
MajorasMask9

I just noticed after that round of silence, that if you were recruited and silenced, you wouldn't know what role you were until the next night round.

If you choose to roll, here is the chart calculated by 100/[totalPlayers] which is 11.11 rounded up or down to 11.

1. Shadowwalked is 1 to 11
2. 'Roxas' is 12 to 22
3. poptart! is 23 to 33
4. Zanic is 34 to 44
5. CtR Black is 45 to 55
6. MajorasMask9 is 56 to 66
7. LLight is 67 to 77
8. chiefsonny is 78 to 88
9. Teddy-Son is 89 to 99
10. Re-Roll is 100 to 100

Roll: 47 (you should definitely use )

Day Round:
  • 5/9 55.56% chance that we lynch a townie.
    Townies: 5
    Total Players: 9

  • (1+3)/9 44.44% chance that we lynch a cultist or mafioso.
    Mafiosos: 1
    Cultists: 3
    Total Players: 9

  • 1/9 11.11% chance that we lynch a mafioso.
    Mafiosos: 1
    Total Players: 9


    Night Round:
  • 5/(3+5) 62.5% chance that mafia murder a townie.
    Cultists: 3
    Townies: 5

  • 3/(3+5) 37.5% chance that mafia murder a cultist.
    Cultists: 3
    Townies: 5

  • 3/9 33.33% chance that masons kill a cultist.
    Cultists: 3
    Total Players: 9

  • 1/5 20% chance that cultists recruit a mafioso.
    Mafiosos: 1
    Townies: 5

    Percentage of mafia win if everyone randomly votes every round is described by numMafia/sqr(totalPlayers) is 1/3 which is 33.33%.

    If we're wrong about Teddy-Son and he's a townie, that'll potentially put the ratio at 1-3-3 by next day round. From a townie non-special role perspective, there's no way to tell the identity of the mason. I'll go random roll this time, see who it lands on and consider that the vote.

  • April 14, 2012
    LLight

    Well look at that, 94 is a Teddy-Son (see no edits). I guess my vote goes for Teddy-Son. We're pretty fucked if you're all cultists.

    April 14, 2012
    LLight

    Only a cop can target the mafia right? And what does this targeting mean anyway? How does it work? And I could easily be a cultist too.

    But it doesn't matter cause I would make the wrong decision in ANY role I was in. If I was a cop I would arrest the wrong person, I was a doctor I'd save the wrong person, If I was a mafia I'd kill the wrong person, if I was a cultist I'd recruit the wrong person, if I was a mason I'd help the wrong person, if I was a townie I'd make the wrong vote. Even if I was the host I wouldn't be here on time to do the stuff needed to do.

    However, I'll tell ya this nah never mind.

    Actually most of the townies will die anyway so if I get killed fuck it I'm telling ya something is going to go down if and when I die.

    April 14, 2012
    Teddy-Son

    The way I see it, cops and docs are useless since they lose their role after recruitment. It's only an advantage if the cop investigated someone, then was recruited and was able to communicate that to the other masons. If their investigation shows up as innocent or guilty, then they know who to target. By far, the doctor is the most useless special role in this game since they can only protect against death.

    Edit: now that I think about it, even the mason kill statistic is useless and wrong. Masons wouldn't vote for their own kind so the 3/9 33.33% ratio/percentage could only be calculated from a mason's role if we actually knew how many masons there are (and by the sounds of things, they are estimated at 2).

    April 14, 2012
    LLight

    Only a cop can target the mafia right? And what does this targeting mean anyway? How does it work? And I could easily be a cultist too.

    How it works:

    White lancer was revealed to be a mason on Day 3. He died along with #85. Since #85 was a townie, and white lancer was a mason, this means that #85 had to have died from the mafia, and white lancer had to have died from attempting to recruit a mafia member (masons die when they attempt to target a mafia member).

    CtR is a mason, and he confirmed that white lancer attempted to recruit you on Night 2. Since he died, this is proof that you're mafia.

    April 14, 2012
    MajorasMask9

    It clearly says up there that Lancer is a Mason then again he lies since he is CLEARLY not a lancer.

    April 14, 2012
    Teddy-Son

    Meant mason, but the point still stands. Edited the post.

    April 14, 2012
    MajorasMask9

    I am not going to say who I am. The way I see it, I argue I seem suspicious I say nothing I seem suspicious. When I go, you will be haunted my friend and the ghost busters won't be able to stop me >:)

    Yes I decided that if I were to be killed of I am not going to get killed off in angry way at the very least.

    April 14, 2012
    Teddy-Son

    You've already accepted death, I see.

    April 14, 2012
    LLight

    Nine people left, five voted against me that leave four. Five beats four sad to say but yes I have no other choice but just to be silly instead of angry.

    April 14, 2012
    Teddy-Son

    Votes after Five Hours:

    Teddy-Son: 5 (MM9, CtR, Roxas, Shadowwalked, LLight)
    Yet to respond/vote: 4 (chiefsonny, poptart!, Zanic, Teddy-Son)

    April 14, 2012
    `Roxas`

    Do I have to vote? I still can't decide who to vote against nor can I convince who should go down. I got no one to follow this time. So I go to:

    No Kill

    April 14, 2012
    Teddy-Son

    "Roll: 47 (you should definitely use )"

    What's the message here?

    April 14, 2012
    chiefsonny
     

    That's the RNG I used in the script to test outside of GT. It helps if you read the comments. Also, it's supposed to say " (you should definitely use ~(roll)~)" , but because GT removes the ~(roll)~ after you post and displays the roll result at the bottom, it shows up as blank when I pasted it for the first time. See I have to edit again to get the text back in there.

    April 14, 2012
    LLight

    "It helps if you read the comments"

    Thanks. I'll keep that in mind.

    April 14, 2012
    chiefsonny
     

    99 is Teddy.

    Sorry young man.

    April 14, 2012
    chiefsonny
     

    6 Votes Kill Teddy.
    1 Vote No Kill.
    2 No Response.

    April 14, 2012
    `Roxas`

    Heh even luck is against Teddy.

    April 14, 2012
    LLight

    It seemed so at the start, didn't it? Even the rolls then were.

    April 14, 2012
    `Roxas`

    Night 4

    Being told by a supposed Mason that Teddy-son was a member of the mafia, some members of the town decided to kill him. Two random choices were made which also went against him. To his dismay, the town lynched him. And with that, the Mafia was no more.

    1. white lancer - Mason
    2. Shadowwalked
    3. #85 - Townie
    4. `Roxas`
    5. Xhin - Cultist
    6. poptart!
    7. Zanic
    8. hezekiah - Townie
    9. Knukles2000 - Silencer
    10. CtR Black
    11. MajorasMask9
    12. LLight
    13. chiefsonny
    14. Teddy-Son - Godfather

    Mafia-Town-Cult Ratio: 0-5-3

    Roles: Godfather, Silencer, Cop, Doctor, Mason, Cult, Townie

    24 hours for night actions.

    Continued in [p:62739].

    April 14, 2012
    Yeano

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