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mafia thread

Posted August 23, 2015 by Helius

Hello! You have been invited to the HMS Typo by Lord Redack. I, Helius, will be the steward of all of you upon this grand and dangerous voyage. Let us meet your fellow teammates.

Godfather - Speed Bike Pro
Public Killer - Lancer
Mafia Investigator - Lady Flare
Mafioso - Knokkel

The only roles that will have anything to do tonight will be the Public Killer and Mafia Investigator.

Enjoy the free peanuts.

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Mafia again, eh? Guess I can't catch a break just yet. Hopefully Flare will be on soon so we can get an investigation in...

August 24, 2015
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white lancer

Investigat Jo Nathan please.

August 24, 2015
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Lady Flare

Sweet dreams, Dreamer.

August 24, 2015
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Lady Flare

Why am I always mafia, what did I do to deserve this...

August 24, 2015
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Speed Bike Pro
 

I used a random list generator, Speed. It was luck... or doom.

August 24, 2015
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Helius

Jo Nathan is Townie

August 24, 2015
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Helius

Begin your plotting...

Who will die?
Who will you investigate?
Who ate all the pie?

August 27, 2015
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Helius

Who will die?

I'm putting one in for Ghowilo unless I see someone change.

Who ate all the pie?

Redack of course.

August 27, 2015
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KnokkelMillennium
 

I would like to take out Count Dooku tonight. He can be a pretty big threat in these games. Hezekiah or chief would also certainly be strong targets.

As for investigating, my general strategy with the role is to investigate players we're not likely to take out any time soon. If the power roles are in the hands of one of the players we want to eliminate, we'll kill them anyway, so no need to waste an investigation. It's trickier to catch someone like Vandy or FAW, since they've not played for a while.

August 27, 2015
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white lancer

Dooku sounds good to me. I'll change my vote to him.

August 28, 2015
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KnokkelMillennium
 

I was thinking a long that strategy as well lancer.

So I'm good with killing Dooku tonight.

And I will investigate FAW.

And don't worry. I will bake us another pie. Requests?

Also, because there is a Dreamer, we need to be careful of what our last post in this thread is.

August 28, 2015
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Lady Flare

I'm A-OK with both of those choices.

August 28, 2015
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Speed Bike Pro
 

FAW is Townie

Count Dooku is dead.

August 28, 2015
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Helius

ayy

August 28, 2015
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Wow, that was lucky. Don't know what chief's on about, though.

August 28, 2015
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white lancer

Careful, lancer.

Although even if I was Town sided I wouldn't want to take out a new player so soon.

August 28, 2015
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Lady Flare

Yeah, I'm not generally thrilled to put myself out there like this this early, but I need to make sure I'm active and saying things that matter. What I'm saying should be obvious enough to Townies that I hope it doesn't get me in trouble--I think that I'd be similarly wary of chief's post as a Townie.

August 28, 2015
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white lancer

Seriously chief? All right you are right about Knockles. But I still think that's a weak argument.

August 30, 2015
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Lady Flare

Who will live?
Who will die?
Who will lie?
Who will olive? [couldn't get it to rhyme]

But seriously...

Die?
Investigate?

August 31, 2015
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Helius

Lol @ me always being the one with the Dreamer messages.

August 31, 2015
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Yeah...that first dreamer message may be bad news for one of the two of us, since we've been Mafia a lot recently.

Chief getting voted out was very good for us--his reasoning was very strange, and I'm not sure where his read was coming from, but he's right that his gut has been right a lot of the time in this game. He was a strong consideration to take out last night as well. As for our kill tonight...I think it depends on how much we believe hezekiah when he says he forgot the game was going. If he did, it seems unlikely he's a power role so we can leave him alive. I'll have to look at the list of players to pick out a good target (although I don't think we can target Vandy because we mostly want someone dead tonight).

Sorry for inactivity over the weekend--my weekends are often full of distractions so it's easy for this to slip my mind. Meant to get on before and post, so I'm a little worried I'll get suspicion for throwing shade on chief and then not posting again (though again, my reasons were legit).

August 31, 2015
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white lancer

2. Vandy - Dreamer?
3. Xhin
4. FAW - Townie
5. Count Dooku Cop/Dead
6. Ghowilo
8. Hezekiah
9. EvilGuy0613
11. Feral
12. Chief - Townie/Dead
13. Jo Nathan - Townie

How do we feel about kill Feral, investigate Xhin? Feral noted that Xhin was being more active than usual this game, which could indicate a power role. I'm curious to find out.

I'll try to be more active over this next day round. If I come under suspicion, I'll have to be ready to use my Public Killer role to take out Vandy.

August 31, 2015
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white lancer

{troll}

August 31, 2015
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white lancer

How do we feel about kill Feral, investigate Xhin?

I'll go with that.

August 31, 2015
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KnokkelMillennium
 

The Dreamer isn't that dangerous. It is easy to leave him nothing to go on. I did try on Night 0.

Anyway, I think you should aim for another person if you use your powers lancer. The Doctor is more of a problem at this point. It would be better to try for him.

I'm fine with investigating Xhin.

But I wonder if we should kill hez instead of Feral.

August 31, 2015
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Lady Flare

I don't mind killing hezy, but I was leaning a little away from that just because he's been less active than normal (which is frequently, though not always, an indication that they're less engaged in the game and so less likely to be a power role). I could vote to kill him if we're leaning that way.

I agree that the Dreamer isn't dangerous, as long as we play around it (if we're feeling particularly ambitious, we could try to feed them misinformation, though posts containing just emoticons like the trollface are the least risky--I remember other games where the Mafia thread was filled with trollfaces to play around such a role). My concern more is that Vandy is a confirmed innocent that will be more difficult to target as long as the Doctor is out there, so it might be better to take out a for sure innocent if it comes to that than to take a shot in the dark at hitting the Doctor. Though, of course, if Vandy dies and I'm gone, the Doctor will be virtually invulnerable the rest of the game and is generally more annoying.

August 31, 2015
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white lancer

{troll}

August 31, 2015
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white lancer

Well, we could kill Feral tonight and possibly hez next time.

So investigate XHIN still

Kill FERAL

September 1, 2015
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Lady Flare

vy3

September 1, 2015
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Lady Flare

Ok, someone else leave something for the Dreamer.

September 1, 2015
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Lady Flare

Well, we could kill Feral tonight and possibly hez next time.

I'm fine with that. I vote to kill Feral.

I glanced over the last couple of games...I am literally the only person who signed up for this game who was Mafia in the last game, and I was Mafia the game before that with Speed and Xhin. Seems very likely that the Town will point that out and vote me out based on the Dreamer post, so we'll want to come to a decision on who to kill with my ability before I have to pull the trigger. If Feral or Xhin aren't the Doctor, should I go for Vandy, or should I take a shot at someone random in the hopes of hitting the Doc?

September 1, 2015
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white lancer

That 'someone else' would be either EvilGuy, Ghowilo, or hezekiah. They will be our only unknowns after this night round, assuming Feral dies (if he's saved, I'm almost certainly killing him because he's probably the Doctor himself).

September 1, 2015
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white lancer

{troll}

September 1, 2015
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white lancer

Xhin is a Townie

September 1, 2015
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Helius

Us hitting the Doctor with my kill could be very important, assuming I do fall under suspicion this day round. Which of the three (EvilGuy, hezekiah, and Ghowilo) do we think is most likely the Doctor? With a 1/3 chance (assuming Vandy is telling the truth about his role), I'm willing to risk it. Either way, we should know who the Doctor is by the end of the next Night round between our Nightkill and investigation.

I will probably attempt to falseclaim Doctor if I come under suspicion, just to try to lure out a counterclaim.

September 1, 2015
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white lancer

Heh. Redack messaged me saying he had the feeling I was Mafia. Good thing he's not in this game. {:P}

September 1, 2015
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white lancer

Thanks lancer for posting something for the dreamer. I was in a hurry and having a case of dyslexia.

I hope our teammates contribute something soon.

I need to read through the past rounds and then I will make a guess on the Doctor.

September 2, 2015
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Lady Flare

assuming Vandy is telling the truth about his role

Realizing that this was a stupid thing to say, since he obviously was telling the truth if he had our exact words! Although...Youtube video?

Anyway, I just realized that the ratio is actually really close right now. If the Town mislynches this round, we actually just win the game with Nightkill + Public Killer (as long as the Doctor doesn't mess up our Nightkill). They also might not have the numbers to get one of us out if we're all active enough and not enough of them are, though I don't really want to bank on that. It would be great if we could get a mislynch on an inactive player and then power through for the win.

September 2, 2015
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white lancer

If we do get the mislynch, we should target someone who is less likely to get Doctor saved for our Nightkill. Xhin might be the best choice since he's for sure not the Doctor, though Jo Nathan is also an option. We'll see if either of them draw suspicion as the day goes on, because if they do the Doctor is less likely to save them (though this is obviously moot if one of us gets taken out today).

September 2, 2015
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white lancer

Alright, looks like there's a chance I'll be taken out today after all (though it's not close to a given yet--I may still be able to survive it). Can I put in 'conditional' actions like the Governor usually can, just in case I'm not able to get on before the round ends?

If so, my actions will be the following:

If the round is ending and white lancer would have the most votes and be eliminated, I will use my power to eliminate hezekiah.

I figure hezekiah is less likely to be suspicious/voted out anyway if he's proved to be right about me, so I might as well take the 1/3 chance to hit the Doctor.

Also, when I use my ability, is the vote of the person I eliminate removed from the game? I imagine it would probably work that way, but I want to confirm.

If that works and we can somehow maneuver the vote into a tie, I could kill one of the ones voting for me and ensure a lynch on the other one.

September 4, 2015
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white lancer

Also, hezy being the Doctor would also fit with his current actions. Just as he's feigned inactivity as Mafia in the past, I wouldn't put it past him to do so in order to lie low as a power role. He's the one player left in the game I would expect to pull a move like that, so he seems more likely than the other two to be the Doctor. Certainly seems more likely than EvilGuy; Ghowilo is usually active so it's harder to get a good read on him, but I wouldn't be stunned. He did receive a vote and claimed vanilla Townie--no panic or extensive reaction.

September 4, 2015
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white lancer

This extra 24 hours is killing me. Perhaps literally. XD

I also appear to have been abandoned...

September 4, 2015
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white lancer

I'm still here for you, Lancer.

And I would assume that is how it would work since... they're dead.

September 5, 2015
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Helius

I'm sorry. I've been quite busy.

I knew we should have taken out hez. He finds me suspicious even when I'm a Townie.

I'm not sure what to do. I could vote for him. But when he comes up innocent, they are going to be looking at who voted for him.

If the ratio is in our favour, I could vote for him and you could try to kill someone else. And we have our night kill.

September 5, 2015
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Lady Flare

Only problem is, I have to leave early-ish tomorrow morning and won't be here for the end of round.

September 5, 2015
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Lady Flare

The main concern I have is that if hezy is the Doctor, he'll be roleclaiming any minute now. Which will be awkward if anyone is online to see. Otherwise we may be good to go--I think the Town is less likely to jump onto voting for me this round if they aren't guaranteed to get the numbers, since they'll want to make sure a lynch goes through today.

If hezy claims Doctor, things get tricky. We could potentially still force the lynch on him if not enough people are around to see the claim, but it's risky and would likely require my kill. But if hezy is lynched today, we'll win the game barring a Doctor save.

I'm going to try to be checking periodically until the day round ends. Might be tricky since I'm out of town and busy, but it's a very important moment in the game so I'll be checking my phone as much as possible.

September 5, 2015
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white lancer

Who will die?
Who will you investigate?

September 5, 2015
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Helius

I think FAW is the least likely to be saved by the doctor, so we should vote for her. As long as the Doctor misses, we will just win the game. Investigating either Ghow or EvilGuy will let us know all of the roles.

September 5, 2015
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white lancer

So looking at how I set the role up...

Lancer if you kill during the day round... The ratio will be 4:4. But they will still have that chance to make it 4:3. So I think you will have to survive to the end of the round

September 6, 2015
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Helius

How do I kick Speed and Knockles in the butt? I know lancer has been carrying the Mafia this game. But at least I show up a little bit. I haven't seen them post in Mafia for a long time. And right now we need them.

I'm good with killing FAW for the reasons you gave lancer.

And I'll investigate EvilGuy. He has been even more quiet than usual this game.

September 6, 2015
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Lady Flare

Ya, FAW sounds good.

And right now we need them.

I don't really see how I'm needed particularly. I have littel to contribute that Lancer hasn't already covered better. Maybe if no one else was around I'd rise the occasion, but.

September 6, 2015
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KnokkelMillennium
 

We need to basically gang up on someone to either force a tie or lynch a Townie.

September 6, 2015
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Lady Flare

That...doesn't really make sense to me. Mafia games have always stopped when the Mafia's numbers equaled the Town's numbers. Even if for some reason one of us died during the day round, we'd just equalize the ratio again the next night, and then again the night after that (though it really shouldn't come to that).

Just seems like kinda a pointless way to extend the game, since it should theoretically be over once the Mafia get to parity.

Anyway, I'll put in my official vote for FAW.

September 6, 2015
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white lancer

Sorry for the inactivity, the last few days have been pretty hectic... that's what happens when you work in the food industry in a college town on a football weekend. (crazy)

Can the Public Killer not kill at night?

September 6, 2015
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Speed Bike Pro
 

The way I had set it up in the night 0 round... I limited it to only day. The role itself can. I know it seems pointless but it is how I mistakenly set the role up

September 6, 2015
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Helius

But I don't see why that should change the rule that has been in effect in every single Mafia game since Game 1, that the Mafia's win condition is to equal the number of Town-sided players. If we're all active enough to vote next round it shouldn't matter anyway, but there's no reason why the last kill for the Mafia should have to be a Nightkill, just that we get the ratio even.

September 7, 2015
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white lancer

So decide who you are going to kill and I'll end the game.

September 7, 2015
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Helius

Well, we do need to end the night round before I make any moves. The Doctor can still technically save FAW and keep the game going, and as you said my kill only happens during the day. {:D}

September 8, 2015
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white lancer

{troll}

September 8, 2015
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white lancer

Evil Guy is Townie

Goodbye, FAW!

September 8, 2015
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Helius

Alright, we'll use my kill to take out Ghowilo, then.

September 8, 2015
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white lancer

It shall be done.

September 9, 2015
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Helius

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