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main thread night 3 dont post upside down messages of doom while the site is upside down

Posted November 1, 2012 by MajorasMask9

Good morning, town! Well, it's good for most of you, but guess what? Someone died last night. Terrible right?

And you know who it was? It was Trever Leingod. Poor Trever! He was a Trick-or-Treater. He actually died of poision. What a way to go!.. You all better be thankful for any anti-poision candies you get even if they seem boring! And remember to stay away from angry people that give out candy. Their candies are bitter, just like their hearts...

1. Redack - Skeleton
2. Trever Leingod - Trick-or-Treater
3. Jo Nathan
4. Frustro - Skeleton
5. Feral
6. White Thunder
7. white lancer
8. CtR Black
9. hezekiah
10. Zanic
11. Serpe
12. Helius
13. chiefsonny
14. Xhin
15. The Bandit

Ratio: 4-8

Available Candy (See previous thread for details):
-Candy of Boringness
-Candy of X-Ray Vision
-Candy of Poision
-Candy of Anti-Poision
-Candy of Invincibility
-Candy of Silence
-Candy of Influence
-Boo Candy
-Candy of Skeleton's Revenge

8 votes for the same option or 72 hours will end the round.

There are 71 Replies


Well, no harm in saying this... but I was silenced last day.

It's possible because I "did" have X-ray candy, and Feral is a regular Trick o' Treater.

I figure there is no harm in sharing this information so we have two regular people figured out. This leaves:

Helius - Trick or Treater
Feral - Trick or Treater

Jo Nathan
White Thunder
white lancer
CtR Black
hezekiah
Zanic
Serpe
chiefsonny
Xhin
The Bandit

And means that six of you are in the clear while four of you are not.

November 1, 2012
Helius

First off, congrats to both Xhin and Hezekiah for surviving to day three. 13 must be your lucky numbers.

So my theory on Frustro was right. That means that it is safe to asume he knew Bandit is innocent, probably via x-ray candy.

Now, I caught Frustro's attempt to direct the Skeletons at Bandit and led the charge to lynch him. Would I have done that if I, myself, were a Skelly? I hope that proves my innocence.

I have more good news, town! I got an x-ray candy on night 2(got poisoned last night), and found out last night that Jo Nathan is also innocent. I'm probably the Skelly's target #1 now, but I hope I did the town a huge service by narrowing it down.

Last, and this is important, if the town decides not to lynch today, I ask you to lynch me to confirm the validity of what I have said. It's a sacrifice I am willing to make for my fellow T or Ters.

November 1, 2012
Feral

Shit, Helius, not only does my thread made simulintaniously validate your claim, but you validated me in turn without the sacrifice. We now have 4 confirmed innocents: Feral, Helius, Jo, and Bandit.

November 1, 2012
Feral

Lol. You're welcome.

November 1, 2012
Helius

I figured I would investigate you on Day 1 because you killed me off last game.

November 1, 2012
Helius

So you were hoping you could out me in revenge, but it backfired and confirmed my innocents.

I'm not even worried about dying, as it would only prove the other three innosent beyond a shadow of a doubt. I did my part this game.

November 1, 2012
Feral

Well, I was hoping. It didn't work out that way obviously since you're innocent. Though, technically, we did just get us closer to a winning game.

November 1, 2012
Helius

Something about Feral's logic doesn't add up. If we have four confirmed innocents, that's great, but I think his explanation is jumping to too many conclusions.

If it's just because work melted my mind, then I'll rescind this vote tomorrow when I get a clear head.

November 1, 2012
Xhin
Sky's the limit

I don't think Feral's mafia, but I may be a little biased since he has been so quick to point out I'm innocent. I do have an accusation to make, though.

In round one, Lancer went after Jo Nathan for almost no reason at all, and nearly got the guy lynched. In a game where night kills aren't guaranteed for the skeletons, then actively trying to get day kills is a pretty good strategy. He backed down in round two after several people pointed out that his accusation made no sense.

Then, last round he accused Feral of jumping on a bandwagon for Frustro. Feral rightly pointed out that there was no bandwagon, and, considering Frustro turned out to be guilty, Lancer's defense of him seems a little sketchy.

This is mostly why I think Feral is innocent. I don't think it's likely they're both mafia, given how one defended Jo Nathan and the other tried pretty hard to get him killed.

So, unless something else happens, here we go:

November 1, 2012
The Bandit

I also used my x-ray candy on Feral... of course. Terrible luck, I guess, but yes he is innocent. If we didn't get that already.

November 1, 2012
White Thunder

Three things about that, Bandit:

1. I never defended Frustro. I didn't know what to make of him (he was a possibility in my mind, but I wasn't overly suspicious of him), but I certainly never said I thought he was innocent. If I had wanted to save him, I could have tied the votes yesterday. Also, there would be no way I would know that he was a Skeleton even if I were guilty.

2. 'Bandwagon' was the wrong word to use. 'Trigger-happy' is a better one, as I noticed Feral was being more active than most in arguing to get people out (he argued to kill Serpe, voted Xhin, then led a charge against Frustro). You'll note that I never accused him of anything.

3. I voted for Jo in the first day because I had a minor suspicion of him (hezy shared that suspicion) and I felt we had to be aggressive with the ratio what it was. He (and Redack) were the only ones I had reason to be suspicious of that round, so I went for it. I still found him suspicious yesterday but I didn't go for it because I felt we had more wiggle room and didn't have to risk it on a minor hunch of mine.

Trever going out was a blessing in disguise IMO because I wasn't sure what to make of him either. It's also very nice that we have a chain of innocence--if any of those three are proven to be innocent, we can probably trust the other two, and we can focus on the other group in the meantime. Preferably not including me.

November 1, 2012
white lancer

I was also silenced last night, but have no important information to share.

November 1, 2012
Zanic

Wow, I didn't expect this many X-ray candies to show up. It's making me a little wary about believing all these claims. Helius and White Thunder's claims should be taken with a grain of salt, because if they are Skeletons they could have just investigated Feral, hoping to find that he was on their team. We can probably assume Feral's innocence because I doubt both of them are lying, but we have to be careful about those two.

November 1, 2012
white lancer

Well, that's another thing I disagree with you on. It seems much more in favor of the skeletons to kill when the ratio is close together. You're acting like they're guaranteed a kill in the night round, which they aren't. When the ratio is very close, but not dangerously close, hastily killing someone because of a hunch is just bad imo. Imagine if we had killed Jo on the first day, and the mafia had gotten an innocent in the night round. We would have been totally fucked. Waiting that first round had no disadvantage for us at all.

As I said, getting day kills is a very good strategy for the mafia, since they aren't guaranteed a night kill.

Now is when we should be more aggressive with our kills, because we have nothing to lose. With the ratio balanced a little more in our favor, we can afford one mislynch.

You haven't really said anything to make me retract my vote. Everything you've done has just seemed very fishy.

November 1, 2012
The Bandit

I was assuming the worst case scenario and playing based on that possibility. In that situation, we had two chances to vote and hit a Skeleton vs. one chance if we had waited and the Skeletons had hit one of us. Additionally, we had Redack claiming to have an X-Ray Candy and I was worried that if we didn't hit a Skeleton that day round, we wouldn't have any time to actually test Redack's claim and it would be game over if he were lying. It was a toss-up as there were benefits to both options, but I decided to play aggressively.

Getting day kills isn't any more reliable for the Skeletons than getting night kills. They just wouldn't know if the person they targeted was a Trick or Treater or a Skeleton.

And as of now, I'd agree that playing aggressively is beneficial now but really only because we have a couple of X-Ray candies in play so we actually have some information. Last round we didn't have that, so I didn't mind waiting in order to give us more time.

November 1, 2012
white lancer

It's more reliable because it's a guaranteed kill, and the odds are in their favor to hit a townie. As I've said, there is no guarantee that the skeletons will get a night kill, but trying for a lynch will guarantee a death, with more than a 50% chance of the lynched person being innocent.

And you're doubting the legitimacy of those who have x-ray, even though there's no benefit for a skeleton to falsely claim that someone is innocent. Even if Feral, Jo, White Thunder, and Heliusy are the remaining mafia (and, really, if one of them is mafia then they all pretty much have to be mafia) they would never intertwine themselves like that, because if we kill one then the town would know that the others were lying.

November 1, 2012
The Bandit

Here's how the Skeletons could play us if they had X-Ray Candy:

1. Accuse someone of being Guilty when they are actually innocent. This particular strategy is a one-use deal and only helpful if a mislynch will win you the game (I assume that this was part of Redack's strategy in the first round).

2. Say someone is innocent when they are actually Guilty. This one is unlikely but possible--both the risks and the potential payout are heightened. For one thing, it's a way to let the other person know that you are on their side (so you don't vote to kill one another during the night), and if the Town believes you they count both of you as confirmed innocents and you're home free for the rest of the game.

This option is risky because if one member goes down, pretty much the entire team goes down. I don't think this is what is happening here because the Skeletons would have had to get incredibly lucky to get three X-Ray Candies, and the web is so interconnected that I think it's unlikely that every member in the chain individually thought up and decided to implement this plan.

3. Reveal the innocence of one Trick or Treater. This has the benefit of pointing a big 'HEY, SKELETONS, KILL THIS GUY' sign as well as making yourself seem innocent by default. Pointing out one other player's innocence is a small price to pay for having everyone assume you're innocent as well, especially since you're probably going to kill the innocent player soon anyway.

This is the one I'm more worried about happening. Note that there's nothing proving Helius's innocence at this point, yet a number of players have assumed that he's absolved. This is the best thing that could happen to a Skeleton, which is exactly why a Skeleton might try this strategy. Note too that it cost Thunder absolutely nothing to confirm Feral's innocence--if Feral is already not going to be lynched by the Town, Thunder can just corroborate the claim and win himself some innocence points from the Town. There's really zero reason to believe Thunder is innocent based off of that, and Helius isn't confirmed innocent either. Because of the unlikeliness of #2, Feral is probably innocent--if you did manage to pull that off, guys, my hat's off to you--which means Jo probably is as well, but we can't rule out Thunder or Helius just yet.

That doesn't mean that I'm going to vote for either of them this round (I'm not), or even that they're near the top of my suspicion list. I'm just very, very cautious about proclaiming someone as 100% confirmed innocent when there's nothing to warrant that--after all, that was what almost lost the game for the Town last game (as people assumed JN was innocent when they didn't have any real reason to).

November 1, 2012
white lancer

Forgot to mention something. There's no reason why Feral and Jo have to be Skeletons if Helius and Thunder are. If Jo is, then all four of them are (because Feral lied about Jo's innocence and Helius/Thunder lied about Feral's), but if Helius turns out to be a Skeleton it's just as likely that he was telling the truth about Feral as it would be that he was lying. I wouldn't put it past either Helius or Thunder to pull a move like that--they're both wily players and it has the potential to be a very effective strategy.

November 1, 2012
white lancer

It is a possibility that I am a skeleton trying to win points as Lancer has pointed out, and due to my unbalance play in previous games, I don't blame him for accusing me in this fashion. It's a smart play, but as I have already stated to Feral above... being unbalanced has gotten me killed when I really should have been in play because of a town role.

Being silenced in the Day 2 round has not played out in my favor; however, saying that Feral is innocent (as he is) works out in my favor. White Thunder claims to have investigated him, but felt that it was unnecessary to disclose this information until after I had stated so. It may have been that I posted before he could, but its also a smart move by a skeleton as well.

The problem with sharing the information as I have is that it paints a target on my back. I was the first one to post the innocence of Feral, and in my list I have cordoned myself off as innocent. A likely scenario would be:

Skeletons kill off Feral or me during the night and find him innocent. Validating my claim and giving them another target the next night regardless of who we lynch.

If I were to die tonight or if Feral were to die tonight, we'd be down to 4-7. Say a mis-lynch during the next day round 4-6, and then since they have Feral or me to kill during the next night session... we're down to 4-5 on Day 5. Another mis-lynch or day passes where we don't act... it's game over potentially.

The only innocent one I can guarantee 100% is Feral because I used an X-ray Candy on him.

November 1, 2012
Helius

Those are all good points, Helius (especially the one about you becoming a potential target for the Skeletons yourself), which is why I don't feel inclined to vote for you today (or in the foreseeable future). I'll only point out that none of that really applies to Thunder (especially since Jo, Feral, and yourself were all out there as likely Skeleton targets before he was), and that none of it exonerates either of you completely. Also, if Feral is innocent, then Jo is also 100% innocent, and since I'm going to mostly discount #2 for the sake of my sanity I'm assuming the innocence of those two at this point. I'm just not there with you or Thunder just yet.

Anyway, if the rest of y'all agree with Bandit and decide to kill me, I ask only that you give me a chance to throw out my remaining strategies/suspicions before you push me past the point of no return (and if I were a Skeleton I wouldn't be able to use this to manipulate you, since I wouldn't know who the other Skeletons were anyway). I just want to make sure that they're on record so you can use them how you will once I come up innocent.

November 1, 2012
white lancer

I am confident that Helius is telling the truth, as his revenge story makes to much sense. Thunder, on the other hand, I get the feeling is just lying to try to ride the wave I created to look innosent. I'll be keeping an eye on him.

I've had a gut feeling about Lancer, but no evidence to bring forth. Not nearly enough to justify lynching him.

November 1, 2012
Feral

I feel like there's a good chance of me dying in the next night round, so I'll give all my two cents now.

It is possible lancer may just be a victim of circumstance. I don't fault him for voting for me in Day 1, and it is true if he were a skeleton and he knew Frustro was a skeleton, he would have just saved him by tying votes. On the other hand, he sure is talking a lot and offering up a possible school of red herrings in light of the strong suspicions toward him, and I'm not sure what to make of it. So yeah, I agree he could be guilty but I do not think adequate evidence is present.

We don't have any way of knowing who knows who, but I at least know that Feral knows I'm innocent. Whether he revealed that so the town could narrow it down, or if he did it so the skeletons would have a safe night target, is up in the air right now as far as I'm concerned.

Unfortunately we may have to wait for Feral or Helius to die if either of their claims are to be validated.

I also must point out that if they both are skeletons who've found each other, they don't have to worry about the other two skeletons mistaking them for innocents and voting them off, since their two votes will outvote or tie anything else. Of course, all it takes is one X-Ray to out one of them, so this may not be a strategy two skeletons would use. They are probably both innocent but I think it would be helpful if someone could X-Ray one of them.

We probably have at least one or two skeletons avoiding the spotlight as much as possible, so we shouldn't forget about those with few posts. And someone could easily fake being silenced too.

Question for hosts - Is it possible for more than one person to receive a silence candy in one night?

November 1, 2012
Jo Nathan

My intention was not to prove my own innocence, but Feral's, because I was suspicious of him last round and I don't want others feeling the same way. You're right, there's no reason for me to be "confirmed innocent" or anything like that.

Not too much to go on right now, if I had to vote I would pick lancer but not convinced he's Mafia.

November 1, 2012
White Thunder

I think chief might be silenced. Not like him to go this long into a round without posting.

November 1, 2012
Feral

I think chief might be silenced


No, not silenced. Just got home. Been in Bethesda Maryland all day visiting a friend that had heart surgery yesterday at Walter Reed Military Medical Center.

I'll read through the post and get back.

November 1, 2012
chiefsonny
 

Actually I agree with Xhin that Feral is jumping to too many conclusions. There is no solid reason to believe Helius is innocent. If anything, revealing Feral's innocence seems more damning than vindicating since it would be giving the skeletons some direction seeing as they weren't able to kill anyone in the last night round.

No need to lynch Feral right now, as I think he's the more likely candidate to be innocent. We ought to lynch Helius. If he's a skeleton, hurrah. If he's innocent, at least we pretty much prove that Feral must be innocent too, and also myself by extension.

November 2, 2012
Jo Nathan

I'd rather lynch Thunder to prove my innosence, but whatever.

You could also kill me. If I wind up guilty(I won't), then you know both Helius and Thunder are lying.

My unusual gameplay is because I am playing much more agressive then usual.

November 2, 2012
Feral

I'd really rather not lynch you because if you really do wind up innocent, all it proves is that Helius and Thunder were telling the truth about you, not their innocence or guilt.

On the other hand, lynching either Thunder OR Helius is like a win-win for the town: we either nail a skeleton, or we prove your innocence (and mine). Is there a specific reason why you'd prefer to go after Thunder instead of Helius?

November 2, 2012
Jo Nathan

So my theory on Frustro was right. That means that it is safe to asume he knew Bandit is innocent, probably via x-ray candy.


But that has not been reported by anyone using X-ray Candy on Bandit.

I've read through these post 3 times and I'm still not sure who is who and who I want to vote for if anyone.

One thing is for sure, by listing the names of these people that are "supposed to be innocent" we have given the skeletons names of 4 people they can go after.

So for right now, I need to think some more.

November 2, 2012
chiefsonny
 

Or the other thing we can do is:

Since this is a Halloween Mafia and that dumb day has come and gone we can.

Mix up a big batch of poison kool-aid, get naked, lay on the ground in the shape of a crop circle, drink the kool-aid and wait for the Mother Ship to Beam us up.

That way everyones dead and we had more people then the Skeletons.

Win Win

November 2, 2012
chiefsonny
 

The intent of the list was to help narrow down who would be Skeletons, but Feral also made a list. If you lynch me or Thunder... it breaks down to what I have already stated as accelerated.

I get lynched, claim is validated... they go after Feral. Two TTrs down in a day and a night. It would be a significant loss.

You can do whatever you want, but if it helps the process any.

November 2, 2012
Helius

I believe Helius' reasoning of using the x-ray on me an in attempt to get revenge on me for murdering him last game. It fits his personality

Thunder has much less credibility in my mind. May change my vote later if new evidence comes up.

November 2, 2012
Feral

I wasn't intent on voting for Helius this round. I just wanted to see what kind of reaction I would get from him since I wasn't entirely sure what to make of him.

I have had White Thunder on my radar for a while so I have no qualms about voting for him, but I will wait a bit longer so I can ponder. Helius does raise a good point - we're pretty much guaranteed to lose a TTer in the next night so a mislynch would really put us at a disadvantage.

November 2, 2012
Jo Nathan

Helius brings up a good point that losing two TTers is quite a blow. But if you want to lynch me to prove Feral's and JN's innocence, please do- I'm bored of this game anyway.

My only thing to say is that my innocence does NOT prove Helius's, as he could be a Skeleton that revealed Feral's innocence to give all the Skeletons a target. I'm fairly convinced he's innocent, yes, but my (soon to be revealed) innocence does not prove that.

November 2, 2012
White Thunder

Didn't you just say last round that you kinda liked this game, Thunder?

Anyway, my posts weren't meant to imply that we should vote out Helius or Thunder this round, and I'm not sure that's the best option. I still think it's more likely than not that Helius is innocent and that Thunder is 50-50. And I'm mostly sold on Feral's innocence (and, by extension, Jo's) even without proving it by killing Helius or Thunder. Personally, I would rather target someone else.

But that has not been reported by anyone using X-ray Candy on Bandit.

This is 100% true and I was planning to say the same thing. We have zero reason to remove Bandit from the list of suspects.

I actually was intending to cast a vote for CtR this round. I really can't be sure if he's innocent or guilty (he always seems suspicious to me), but his posts have been reminiscent of the ones he made when he was Mafia last (such as the random vote for Xhin). The tricky thing is that we don't know how similar people would act to their past Mafia selves since they don't actually have any more information than we do this round, which has made me a little hesitant, but if I were to cast a vote right now it would be for CtR (other reasons being he's unlikely to be a Skeleton target and he hasn't posted much so we're not likely to get much more from him anyway).

November 2, 2012
white lancer

Because I had an X-Ray Candy last round {:P}

November 2, 2012
White Thunder

A feel a bit better about Thunder now that he voted himself.

Let's look at those we haven't talked about this round yet; CTR, Serpe, Hezekiah, Zanic, chief, and Xhin. Anybody have anything on these guys?

November 2, 2012
Feral

I just DID talk about CtR. :P

I've got nothing on Serpe.

Hezy agreed with me about Jo and voted for him for the past couple of rounds, but other than that I don't really remember much out of him.

Zanic claimed to be silenced last round and was the first to volunteer to be checked by Redack in the first round (before we knew Red was a Skeleton).

I noticed chief has made a lot of non game-related comments, and I initially found that suspicious, but that's probably not actually that strange given the uniqueness of this game. Still keeping an eye on him.

Xhin had his stunt of voting for himself and opined that it'll be an easy ride for the Town from this point forward. Other than that, not much on him either.

November 2, 2012
white lancer

This is 100% true and I was planning to say the same thing. We have zero reason to remove Bandit from the list of suspects.

:( At least Feral's got my back.

I'm sticking with Lancer for right now. If someone gets an X-ray candy, I recommend using it on White Thunder or Helius. I think one of them is likely mafia, but it could go either way, or they both might be innocent. I think it's unlikely that they're both mafia though.

The fact that they've both kind of done the exact same things this round is really fucking weird though.

November 2, 2012
The Bandit

I forgot to mention, if someone does have an x-ray and they hit innocent on either Thunder or Helius, I'll be comfortable voting off the other one. But not quite yet.

November 2, 2012
The Bandit

Helius and Thunder are definitely good choices to hit with the X-Ray candy, just to lengthen our chain of innocence.

Alternatively, if you get the candy and are still really worried about me, feel free to verify my innocence.

One more observation I want to make is that Xhin is voting for Feral right now, which doesn't make any sense to me. It's not as weird as it could be given that the vote came before Thunder's verification, but it really wouldn't make any sense to take Feral out right now (and if he were worried about Feral being guilty Helius would have been a better place to start voting).

November 2, 2012
white lancer

In Xhin's defense, technically Feral did say we could vote him out to validate his claim.

November 2, 2012
Zanic

Yes, but that's not why Xhin said he was voting for Feral. And that was before Feral knew Helius had verified his innocence (Feral started writing his post before Helius posted). It wouldn't make sense to kill Feral to verify his innocence when you could kill Helius and do the same (if Helius is innocent, Feral has to be).

November 2, 2012
white lancer

I was actually on the same train of thought, Lancer, but was hesitant to bring it up due to it involving a vote against me.

I know Xhin has been mad busy with work, though, so am willing to hear him out.

November 3, 2012
Feral

8:30 GT time tonight, guys. Will have my official vote in by then.

November 3, 2012
Feral

Guess I'm gonna have to kick off again. Reasons for my vote;

1. He is voting for me, for really senseless reasons.

2. I found his "joke" last round about voting for himself just a bit off.

3. He isn't one of the more active players, so we won't be losing a key player if wrong.

4. I am annoyed at him right now for disappearing on me on AIM. Couldn't you say something if you were planning to suddenly be "not here" for two hours?

November 3, 2012
Feral

Actually, can't do that. If I leave a 5-way tie this late into the round, I'm leaving the vote wide-open for a Skelleton to swoop in and kill someone they know is innocent. At least until some more votes come in, I have to vote for someone whom already has votes. Seeing as I would like to prove my own innosence and not kill myself, I am forced to chose between Helius and Thunder.

Nothing personal about this vote, my hands are tied and it's best for me personaly. If more votes come in, I would rather take out Xhin.

November 3, 2012
Feral

Do we desperately want a kill this round or not? I honestly don't know. I think it's very likely we'll lose a townie tonight.

November 3, 2012
The Bandit

No choice at this point, unless all votes are retracted or somebody sits on this post from 8:00 on to counter any Skeleton votes.

November 3, 2012
Feral

I have a double vote on Lancer. I'll switch if we really need a kill.

November 3, 2012
The Bandit

Weren't you just saying earlier that now was when we needed to play aggressively, Bandit?

Given that we have players who are all but confirmed innocent, it's almost a guarantee we'll lose a Trick or Treater tonight. I still don't think that voting for Thunder is necessarily the best option (confirming Feral/Jo's innocence isn't worth all that much given that they're the most obvious Skeleton targets anyway), but I suppose he's about as likely to be a Skeleton as anyone else. I would still rather take out CtR but taking out Thunder is probably a better option than forcing a No Kill.

November 3, 2012
white lancer

Yeah, and my aggressive play would be killing you. : /

November 3, 2012
The Bandit

Like I said earlier, I do think that either Helius or White Thunder is mafia, but I'm scared if we kill off the innocent one we'll be too close to the wire to confidently kill the other one.

And, it's entirely possible that they're both innocent. So, idk what to do.

November 3, 2012
The Bandit

Ah, I see. So we can afford a mislynch, as long as that mislynch is me.

November 3, 2012
white lancer

I don't think killing you would be a mislynch. That's why I voted for you.

November 3, 2012
The Bandit

It would indeed be a mislynch, and I'm half-considering allowing it to happen just so you see how misguided your suspicions are. :P But that would just be a waste.

Earlier you were arguing for aggressive play in general. Now you're wondering if we really need to take someone out today. Why the contradiction?

November 3, 2012
white lancer

Yes, please don't vote for yourself to prove you're right. It's the dumbest and most petty thing you can possibly do in this game.

It's probably because I have all the power right now (assuming someone else also doesn't have a double vote), and if I'm wrong then it all comes down on me.

This situation is a hell of a lot different than just voting for a, for lack of a better word, random person like you. Like I said, their actions have been exactly the same, there's no reason to be more suspicious of one rather than the other, and if we kill one I would feel obligated to kill the other one next round. But, they could both easily be innocent, so my vote here could easily lose us the game. If we just kill you (or Xhin or whoever), and we're wrong, I wouldn't feel obligated to vote for anyone in particular next round.

I haven't made a decision yet, but I'm leaning toward leaving it as a tie.

November 3, 2012
The Bandit

Alright, that does make a certain amount of sense. I don't really agree with it--for one, I don't see why we should feel obligated to vote for Helius next round if Thunder turns up innocent (there's really no evidence that one of them has to be guilty even if that remains a possibility). That alleviates my own suspicions of you somewhat (but not all the way, mind you).

Anyway, I'm going to break the tie anyway. Voting for someone like CtR is better than voting for Thunder IMO, but voting Thunder out is better than not voting at all. That's mostly because this night round isn't going to help us narrow things down at all since it's most likely just going to end with the death of someone we weren't ever going to vote out anyway. If anyone's willing to vote CtR out with me, then I'll switch my vote there (I *might* be willing to vote Xhin as well; still considering that).

November 3, 2012
white lancer

I'm voting Xhin, to force you to go Xhin. : / I do not feel comfortable leaving Helius alone if Thunder winds up innocent, but I don't feel comfortable voting for him either. I would rather wait until we get an x-ray on one of them before messing with either of them.

Also, if I had to vote for one of them this round, I think Helius is more guilty. : / But I'm alone there I guess.

November 3, 2012
The Bandit

I guess if Xhin is innocent this is all still my fault anyway. Ugh. Too much pressure.

November 3, 2012
The Bandit

Alright, I'll go for Xhin, too. We can share the blame if he turns out to be innocent. I'm not entirely convinced he is guilty, but then if I'm not going to vote until I'm 100% sure I'm almost never going to vote in a game like this.

November 3, 2012
white lancer

I found his "joke" last round about voting for himself just a bit off.

Yeah like i said last round, reverse psychology. not random voting, naw, that aint me

November 3, 2012
CtR Black

I noticed chief has made a lot of non game-related comments, and I initially found that suspicious, but that's probably not actually that strange given the uniqueness of this game. Still keeping an eye on him.


Well let chief explain this behavior.

This game is not what I expected it to be and to be very honest I'm not enjoying it that much.

I thought about asking you guys to lynch me and then when I saw that Trever Leingod got killed last night, I did not want to reduce our numbers any more.

Now this going to sound like double speak because I'm going to talk about voting for someone which, if they are innocent could reduce our numbers.

Serpe has posted 4 times in the 11 days the game has been up. So if he's not going to be here to post or use the x-ray candy if he gets it, then why keep him around.

At this point I don't know of any active player I would feel right about voting for. That's why I'm voting the way I am.

November 3, 2012
chiefsonny
 

I've noticed that chief really dislikes Serpe in this game, haha. But if we're gonna kill me off, then I'll go for Xhin as well.

November 3, 2012
White Thunder

I've noticed that chief really dislikes Serpe in this game


I don't dislike him as a person, but this is the 2nd game in a row he has signed up for and both times he has been inactive.

November 3, 2012
chiefsonny
 

On an unrelated note, I have a feeling hezy was silenced this round. I believe he and Serpe are the only two who haven't posted today.

November 3, 2012
white lancer

As promised, I am switching to Xhin.

Feral changed his vote to Xhin

November 4, 2012
Feral

I was on and trying to type out a reply earlier this afternoon but I had to leave it to go to a party.

I agree with reasons already posted to vote for this person.

November 4, 2012
Jo Nathan

Round closed, votes locked.

November 4, 2012
Feral

FLASHBACK

Before the town got up to vote, they all went and got some candy. A certain person named Xhin got a candy he liked, and cried out, "woop woop!"

But he didn't see what was coming. The town started voting for him, and he received the majority.

Perhaps he shouldn't have shouted "woop woop" while the site was upside down. For when it is flipped 180 degrees, it spells "doom doom" for Xhin, the Skeleton.

1. Redack - Skeleton
2. Trever Leingod - Trick-or-Treater
3. Jo Nathan
4. Frustro - Skeleton
5. Feral
6. White Thunder
7. white lancer
8. CtR Black
9. hezekiah
10. Zanic
11. Serpe
12. Helius
13. chiefsonny
14. Xhin - Skeleton
15. The Bandit

Ratio: 3-8

Available Candy (See previous thread for details):
-Candy of Boringness
-Candy of X-Ray Vision
-Candy of Poision
-Candy of Anti-Poision
-Candy of Invincibility
-Candy of Silence
-Candy of Influence
-Boo Candy
-Candy of Skeleton's Revenge


NEW CANDIES APPROACHING

Candy of Anonymity - If you receive this candy, you can post a message in your personal thread during the day round, and a host will deliver that message to the main thread in the day round without revealing your identity!

SuperPAC Candy - If you get this candy, you become addicted to it... You need it, so much that you'll do anything to get the money to buy some... like become a Political SuperPAC! Each post you make in the main thread during the following day round, you will need to make a political advertisement for someone (need to be an actual candidate for office anywhere). If you don't adhere to these guidelines, you will be given a nice silencing the next day round, plus you will not get any candy that night either!

November 4, 2012
Yeano

Oh yeah, and you have 25 hours for trick or treating.

November 4, 2012
Yeano

Reply to: main thread night 3 dont post upside down messages of doom while the site is upside down

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