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night 1 sittin in the shadow of death

Posted July 21, 2014 by `Roxas`

The town was mourning the loss of their friends Ghowilo and Castrael, who tragically died while on their way for a visit with old friends.

The mourning couldn't last long though, as the Mafia had returned to power once more. The town would have to band together to take them down, or be destroyed by themselves.

Apollo Justice
Hindenburg
Black Yoshi
Speed Bike Pro
MajorasMask9
Lady Flare
EvilGuy0613
Lightvayne
Jo Nathan
white lancer
chiefsonny
The Bandit
Pirate_Ninja
hezekiah
Count Dooku
Chaos Incarnate
Helius
FAW

Starting Ratio 11-6-1

Townie x8, Cop, Governor, Fisherman
Godfather x1, Executioner x1, Ballot Forger x1, Traitor x1, Mafioso x1, Janitor x1
Fool

If the Fool is lynched, they automatically win the game. If the Fool is killed at Night, the game continues.

Day 1 will begin after 24 hours have passed or when all night actions are submitted.

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The town gathered as rain drops slowly started falling from the sky, all curious as to who would be the first to die.

Apollo Justice
Hindenburg
Black Yoshi
Speed Bike Pro
MajorasMask9
Lady Flare
EvilGuy0613
Lightvayne
Jo Nathan
white lancer
chiefsonny
The Bandit
Pirate_Ninja
hezekiah
Count Dooku
Chaos Incarnate
Helius
FAW

Starting Ratio 11-6-1

Townie x8, Cop, Governor, Fisherman
Godfather x1, Executioner x1, Ballot Forger x1, Traitor x1, Mafioso x1, Janitor x1
Fool

72 hours or 12 votes for the same option.

July 22, 2014
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`Roxas`

Well. May as well cast a random vote for now since we currently have nothing to go on.

July 22, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

Fool here. Not expecting to be lynched now I know, but if the mafia could please kill me so that I can get my win points while the game is still allowed to continue that would be great :).

Think I'm going to have to look into changing the default win conditions of the Fool when this game is finished. Having them win while letting the game continue if they get nightkilled is way overpowered, and I'm surprised this never got changed before. Either way, works in my favor (and the town/mafia's favor too!) so no point in worrying about it now B). Though I... will miss you all...

July 22, 2014
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MajorasMask9

Good to see the Fisherman role back in action. One of my favorite roles in the game. I encourage whomever is the Fisherman to play your cards wisely -- if you fish something up, don't use it right away unless it's a Bulletproof Vest, as most of the items are one-shot deals. I'm not sure what items you can fish for, but use them wisely.

That said, I'll have the usual, please.

July 22, 2014
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Black Yoshi

Does no kill count for ending the day? waiting 72 hours hardly seems ideal for a day in which little is likely to happen.

July 22, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

No-Kill is a vote to not lynch, so yeah it counts toward the vote total :). So if 12 people vote No-Kill the round ends.

And I agree, we rarely learn anything on Day 1, and it's rare we reach the needed votes to end the round early anyway, so I'll throw my vote in for no-kill.

July 22, 2014
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MajorasMask9

Going for No kill then. I hope everyone else does the same.

July 22, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

WHAT'S UP BITCHES

I WANT TO KILL SOMEONE

July 22, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

WHAT'S UP BITCHES

I WANT TO KILL SOMEONE

That may sound specifically suspicious if you weren't so blatant about it.

July 22, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

Hi hello

July 22, 2014
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FAW

Makes 0 sense for the Fool to reveal because it makes 0 sense for the mafia to ever waste a night kill on the fool. They get zero points for killing him. Majora seems like he's smart enough to realize this, but at the same time it seems like he's smart enough to realize that someone else would realize this so idk what to make of it.

Does the game just end if we lynch the Fool, or does he get some points? If it just ends then I obviously don't recommend killing him, and I think I would prefer the Cop taking a peek at him.

July 22, 2014
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The Bandit

Forgot to add, but I guess it's implied- If Majora just collects some points then let's just kill him.

July 22, 2014
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The Bandit

yeah, not sure if I'm buying the fool thing thb. No vote for now

July 22, 2014
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Lightvayne

I don't seem to live past Night 3. So I might as well try to get something done.

July 22, 2014
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Lady Flare

Just to go ahead and inb4 this argument, I know we'll just be sort of wasting a Cop check if Majora overlooked something and he does turn out to be the Fool, but given that like 80-90% of the time Majora isn't likely to make a mistake like this, I think the potential Cop check is fine. I mean, I definitely think there's a real possibility that Majora is a really strong power Mafia role that is trying to sneak by to the end of the game.

July 22, 2014
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The Bandit

Forgot to add, but I guess it's implied- If Majora just collects some points then let's just kill him.

Actually the Fool DOES get a point.

"Fool – Wins the game if they are lynched by the Town. Gains one point if Nightkilled, but the game continues. Does not gain points for surviving the game"

So i'm not sure this is wise. If he really IS the Fool, we'll fuck the whole game over and neither of us will win. But if someone kills the fool during the night round, we'll be fine.

So, I say wait to see what the Mafia will do at the least.

July 22, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

Yeah, I saw that from Roxas, and I realizes that it pretty much confirms the game ends if we lynch the fool. I've just never played with this role and wanted to 100% confirm.

Anyway, I've reconsidered my last thought in the past 5 minutes and decided the Cop shouldn't check Majora. It's not like the Cop is just going to come forward with one result anyway, and I don't think there's really any role that's powerful enough for the Mafia that we need to risk wasting a Cop check to immediately eliminate Majora.

This thought is subject to change in the next 5 minutes, though.

July 22, 2014
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The Bandit

Janitor: This is the one they need to get rid of.
It needs to go where the Voodoo Lady and a few dumb ass roles went.

July 22, 2014
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chiefsonny
 

Yeah, I also feel that the Mafia would not waste a kill on a neutral party.

Furthermore, if Majors (that's what I'm going to call you whenever I'm on my phone because I'm too lazy to correct the autocorrect (but I'm not too lazy to type out this explanation!)) is lying, the real fool has no reason to come forward and the town would be too scared to lynch Majors due to the risk of ending the game.

Yeah I'd hate to risk it going to waste but mayhap it is best if we get a cop result on Majors, idk.

July 22, 2014
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Jo Nathan

Does the Fool come up as Innocent? And if Majora comes up Innocent it doesn't really tell us anything. He could be the Godfather for all we know.

July 22, 2014
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Lady Flare

Does the Fool come up as Innocent?

From what I read, nothing seems to indicate this.

just btw though, if you really wanted to do something you probably should have voted the same as Speed Bike Pro. I would assume that dogpile mentality would help a lot in this game.

July 22, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

Who wants to blow my nuthairs?

July 22, 2014
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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

If the Cop checks the Fool (whoever he may be) what verdict does he get?

And I don't pile on to bandwagons unless I feel the person is Mafia. The Random vote is in line with a joke. Just saying.

July 22, 2014
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Lady Flare

If Majora is lying about being the Fool and he's actually Mafia, I'd be fairly confident that he'd be the Godfather. I don't think another Mafia member would be as keen to throw him/herself out there because it's pretty clear that a Fool roleclaim will result in at least some suspicion (my first instinct was suspicion as well, largely because I'm not certain what the Mafia have to gain by Nightkilling the Fool, and Majora would know that). I'm pretty sure lynching the Fool ends the game, so I wouldn't advise that, but I'm not confident about a Cop check because I think it's likely Majora will turn up Innocent either way.

That said, the role I think we should look out for most is the Ballot Forger. I introduced this role a while back and then realized how hideously powerful it is--as long as that role is alive, we need to think of the Mafia as being +1 and the Town as being -1. Thus, the current ratio is more like 10-7...which is pretty scary. The Traitor's presence complicates this a bit as they won't be 100% sure when they're actually voting with their fellow Mafia, but I imagine that the Mafia could decide just to reveal themselves when they're sure to have the numbers and the Traitor will happily vote along with them--we won't have any way to stop that since we don't have a role like the Public Killer (unless the Fisherman's kill can happen at any time...can I get a ruling on this, Roxas?). We do have the Governor to stop one kill, but then the Nightkill puts us under anyway.

With the Ballot Forger in play, the numbers are so, so much closer than they look, to the point where a mislynch on Day 2 will literally cost us the game. We NEED to keep that in mind as we try to figure things out this game.

July 22, 2014
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white lancer

Since the Fool is neutral, I'd assume that he comes up as Innocent like other other third parties right?

July 22, 2014
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FAW

(unless the Fisherman's kill can happen at any time...can I get a ruling on this, Roxas?)

They seemed to of mistyped the link on the roles section. I found it last night while googling it: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Fisherman

But ya, the fisherman can act as a Vigilante too it seems.

July 22, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

With the Ballot Forger in play, the numbers are so, so much closer than they look, to the point where a mislynch on Day 2 will literally cost us the game. We NEED to keep that in mind as we try to figure things out this game.

This could be tedious though. Should we vote or not vote? Because if we're passive for too long, we may end up giving the Mafia too much of an edge. But it would make matters worse if we mess up.

July 22, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

I know there is a lot of uncertainty about my role but here is something to consider:

Suppose that I am the Godfather (or mafia.) It will look suspicious if I don't die tonight. The town might think, "hey, Majora didn't die, therefore, he's probably mafia and lying." It's very likely in that case that I would be lynched, and the game would come to an end with me as the only winner.

I don't think the mafia wants that. I think they'd like to win for themselves. That means it would be in their best interest to kill me, giving me a win, and letting the game continue for themselves to continue winning.

July 22, 2014
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MajorasMask9

The Executioner + Ballot Forger combination could also be a problem.

July 22, 2014
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Lady Flare

Maybe I should reword my last reply, after re-reading it. My point is that if I am mafia, then me living will look suspicious and most likely result in my lynch, because I feel like not lynching me in that case would be a bad play for the town.

But I'm not mafia and the mafia should know this. I'm asking them to kill me. I wouldn't do that if I wasn't the Fool, because I'm putting them in a position where if they don't kill me, things would likely go bad for them (as I would be the only winner.) Hopefully my explanation makes sense.

July 22, 2014
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MajorasMask9

Not wanting to half contradict myself here, but perhaps we should be looking at Hindenburg. He was quick to vote for someone after I said "if you really wanted to do something you probably should have voted the same as Speed Bike Pro.". Perhaps I was wrong to say that, but supposing that Hindenburg is a mafia, he would realize that Evilguy is not one of his own, so he may as well get on board with it. Plus the fact that he did it after I said that may give him a feeling of security because he did it at a time where it may seem safe.

Sorry dude. Just throwing the possibility out there.

July 22, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

HINDENBURG IS THE DEVIL

July 22, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Don't listen to him... He doesn't know me...

July 22, 2014
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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

Hi! I just got on and saw that this was up.

MM9 revealing that he is the fool is kind of bold, but this is MM9 we are talking about. If the mafia chose not to kill him, then wouldn't that also just validate that he's the fool? I would think (if I understand the role correctly) that it's radioactive.

It's probably best if we decide whether or not we believe him. But I'm also tired from work so I'm thinking like crap.

July 22, 2014
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Helius

Fool shows up as innocent.
Fisherman's kill may happen at anytime.

July 22, 2014
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`Roxas`

I wouldn't look into Hindenburg bandwagoning too much.

Also think no killing is best at the moment.

July 22, 2014
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EvilGuy0613

In regards to OOG communication, I would prefer that it not happen, but there will be no rule about it.

July 22, 2014
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`Roxas`

Lancer is right, and therefore I think this makes the most sense. If he really is the Fool, then so be it. I'm not going to cry over losing on Day1. We can just move on to the next game and forget it.

July 22, 2014
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The Bandit

The game is imo balanced in favor of the Mafia regardless of the numbers.

They have the Executioner who can cause a townie to get killed in the day round, plus they have their night kill.

We have the lynch and the Fisherman who has to count on luck to get a good enough roll. And even if he gets the gun it's only good for one use.

We have no Doc to protect our Cop, so he/she shouldn't make a report until he has at least 3 guilty report.

I would agree with The Bandit about killing MM9, but keep this in mind:

If I recall `Roxas` was the only one that wanted to host, and getting his opinion on a restart might be a good idea. He may not want to host if we force a restart and what's to prevent him from using the Fool and the Janitor again.

July 22, 2014
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chiefsonny
 

If I recall `Roxas` was the only one that wanted to host, and getting his opinion on a restart might be a good idea. He may not want to host if we force a restart and what's to prevent him from using the Fool and the Janitor again.

I can understand the fool, but what's wrong with the Janitor? It complicates the game, but as far as I can see, it isn't game-breaking.

July 22, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

I'm so confused.

If the Fool is lynched, they automatically win the game. If the Fool is killed at Night, the game continues.

This seems very straightforward. If MM9 is the fool then the Mafia simply kill him and he doesn't win, so the Mafia have a chance to win it.

Right?

It says nothing about the fool winning on death. The fool wins by getting lynched, at which point the game should end.

July 22, 2014
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Count Dooku

I can understand the fool, but what's wrong with the Janitor? It complicates the game, but as far as I can see, it isn't game-breaking.


The Janitor can hide anyone the Mafia nightkills (and, in fact, it doesn't even have to be a Mafia kill, just a nightkill). In the past, it's left us frustrated and infuriated, and so it was agreed after about Game 12 or so to suspend the role. With the Janitor on their side, the Mafia have the distinct advantage of knowing their nightkill's role, and then they have the ability to claim that role without risk of counterclaim. It may not break the game, but it's WAAAAAAYYY overpowered.

July 22, 2014
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Black Yoshi

i want murder

July 22, 2014
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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

The Fool technically wins if they get killed by nightkill, the game just continues. This rule goes way back to when Yeano was hosting, as a way to balance the Fool (previously if they got killed in any way, the game would end, but that makes it very luck based and unfair in favor of the Fool.)

Though I don't think we considered this side of it in terms of balancing.

July 22, 2014
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MajorasMask9

Agree with all of what chief said, although I don't support any kind of restart. Roxas understood that the Fool might get lynched on Day 1 when he added the role. It's not a big deal to me if it happens, idk.

Anways:

Suppose that I am the Godfather (or mafia.) It will look suspicious if I don't die tonight. The town might think, "hey, Majora didn't die, therefore, he's probably mafia and lying." It's very likely in that case that I would be lynched, and the game would come to an end with me as the only winner.

Why the hell would the Fool say this after someone implies that we should maybe lynch him? The Fool should be thrilled that we are even considering this possibility of lynching him after he revealed. It's his best outcome, and something he probably thought would be impossible. Instead he tries to clear up matters in a way that would make it less likely for us to lynch him. Just let us lynch you Majora! What do you care!

July 22, 2014
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The Bandit

Why the hell would the Fool say this after someone implies that we should maybe lynch him? The Fool should be thrilled that we are even considering this possibility of lynching him after he revealed. It's his best outcome, and something he probably thought would be impossible. Instead he tries to clear up matters in a way that would make it less likely for us to lynch him. Just let us lynch you Majora! What do you care!

Because not everyone is self-centered? Perhaps he really does just want to get his point and watch the game continue.

Were the circumstances different, I would be with you. But if he really is the Fool, it's game over. I still say wait to see what the mafia does.

If we vote for someone, I say we vote someone else. It would be a waste anyway. If Majora really isn't the fool, we can get him ANY round.

July 22, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

Because not everyone is self-centered?

lol

July 22, 2014
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The Bandit

lol

Perhaps my wording wasn't correct, but either way people do care for others. Even if it's motivated by self-interest. As I said, perhaps he just wants to see the game continue. Perhaps he wants to watch it like a sport.

And as was stated before, he would also get a point out of it. From my perspective, it is more than likely that he is the fool. But that's just me.

July 22, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

Why the hell would the Fool say this after someone implies that we should maybe lynch him? The Fool should be thrilled that we are even considering this possibility of lynching him after he revealed. It's his best outcome, and something he probably thought would be impossible. Instead he tries to clear up matters in a way that would make it less likely for us to lynch him. Just let us lynch you Majora! What do you care!


Feel free to lynch me if you want, but I don't see it happening. We've always had trouble getting a lynch going Day 1, and I didn't expect the majority to go along with a lynch after a Fool claim. That's why I want to rely on the mafia killing me, because I'm pretty much forcing their hand. Not only will that let the game continue for everyone else, but it will give me my win points.

July 22, 2014
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MajorasMask9

The thing is, you don't really need points both as someone with a point total exceeding 20 and as the executive host anyways.

July 22, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

If enough of the players are in favor of a reset, then I will have no issue doing so.

July 22, 2014
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`Roxas`

I'm honestly interested in seeing where this goes. I can't speak for everyone else, of course.

July 22, 2014
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Jo Nathan

I'm personally against a reset. It may take too long to get everything set up again. Might as well keep going.

July 23, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

The thing is, you don't really need points both as someone with a point total exceeding 20 and as the executive host anyways.


It's not even about the points. It's a win condition. My win condition is to die. Back when Yeano was executive host he adjusted the Fool role so that dying via nightkill counted as a win for the Fool but let the game continue, because we had a game end due to a "lucky" kill with the mafia killing the fool.

And I also don't see the point in a reset.

July 23, 2014
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MajorasMask9

I am personally advocating murdering MM just because he is a sissy ninny.

July 23, 2014
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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

If anything, let the Mafia take down Majora tonight-round. If Majora's still alive come tomorrow-round, we know he's lying.

July 23, 2014
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Black Yoshi

The Mafia won't kill him because they want us to waste a lynch on him. Both sides want to leave him alive so as to cause controversy, either way it creates an awkward safe bubble for MM and he knows this (which means he's probably lying about his role), so somebody's gonna have to bite the dick and just kill him.

July 23, 2014
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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

Both sides want to leave him alive so as to cause controversy, either way it creates an awkward safe bubble for MM and he knows this (which means he's probably lying about his role), so somebody's gonna have to bite the dick and just kill him.


Maybe. But what does the Mafia gain from it? If we kill him and he is the fool, game over. If the mafia leaves him alive and we kill him on Day 2, game over. If Mafia kills him during the night, then MM9 gets the points and wins. The only way he loses is if we don't lynch him. Or did I read that wrong?

I think that's why I said the role is radioactive. If you're it, you're a ticking time bomb. If every one ignores you, then you lose.

July 23, 2014
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Helius

The Mafia won't kill him because they want us to waste a lynch on him. Both sides want to leave him alive so as to cause controversy, either way it creates an awkward safe bubble for MM and he knows this (which means he's probably lying about his role), so somebody's gonna have to bite the dick and just kill him.


I don't really care if I get lynched or killed lol. If we're all concerned with lynching me, then so be it. But you're wrong about the mafia not wanting to kill me. Because if I'm the Fool (I am) the Mafia won't want me to be lynched, because that would mean the mafia loses. If they don't kill me, the town will likely be under the assumption that my Fool claim was a lie, that I'm mafia, and that I should be lynched. Basically, the safest night action for the mafia is for them to kill me.

I'm pretty much doing the opposite of putting myself in a safe bubble because I don't really see how I can get through the next few day rounds without being killed.

July 23, 2014
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MajorasMask9

For now I really think we should hold off on lynching MM9 even if you really believe he isn't telling the truth. To be honest I'm not totally convinced he is telling the truth but without much to go on but his word it's a really risky situation.

I'm sure we'll find out more things along the way but I think we can afford to play it safe at least for day one.

July 23, 2014
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EvilGuy0613

The Fool technically wins if they get killed by nightkill, the game just continues. This rule goes way back to when Yeano was hosting, as a way to balance the Fool (previously if they got killed in any way, the game would end, but that makes it very luck based and unfair in favor of the Fool.)

That's... pretty dumb. But I still disagree. It's not a win if they are night killed.

Fool – Wins the game if they are lynched by the Town. Gains one point if Nightkilled, but the game continues.

From our role list. IMO, it should gain nothing, but that's how it's written.

The Mafia need to kill the Fool in order to prevent the town from lynching him, resulting in a loss for the Mafia.

July 23, 2014
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Count Dooku

... I actually did not read that part in the role descriptions that being night killed was more or less a consolation point. I assumed it was a full-on win.

This is awkward

July 23, 2014
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MajorasMask9

(evil)

(I totally agree with your earlier post though. We need to fix the fool's conditions. It's a great role when used properly but it has an awful history here on Gtx0)

July 23, 2014
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Count Dooku

I...wasn't exactly advocating voting Majora off this round. I was just suggesting not wasting a Cop check on him (especially since we have such a narrow window for success and we need our checks to be productive). It would be especially bad if the Cop checked him and the Mafia killed him at night.

And the Janitor is fine. I'm of the firm belief that it's not really overpowered at all--in fact, I recall doing some statistical things back when we suspended the role that showed that the Mafia had lost more often than they won with the Janitor. It just forces people to play a different way than they normally would, which a lot of people didn't enjoy. That's a perfectly valid reason for not liking the role, which is why I suspended it originally, but you won't be able to convince me that it's OVERpowered (I think it's a powerful role, to be sure, but Town-sided roles like the Cop and even Mafia-sided roles like the Ballot Forger are so much stronger). I liked that it messed with the boring-but-powerful Town strategy of the roleclaim, but I was one of the few.

I wouldn't vote for a reset just because I don't like resets. Just looking at the numbers, this game does seem slanted in favor of the Mafia, but it's not straight-up impossible for the Town to win...as long as we either get the Ballot Forger early or hit a Mafia member every day starting next day round. We do have a fair amount to go off of this day round already, though, and I'm fairly confident that several people are either not Mafia or are REALLY good at acting outraged.

July 23, 2014
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white lancer

WHY WAIT UNTIL NEXT ROUND WHEN WE CAN START THIS ROUND

July 23, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

And Majora continues to argue with people when he shouldn't care one way or the other.

I...wasn't exactly advocating voting Majora off this round.

I... never suggested you were. I agreed with you that we shouldn't waste a Cop check, and because of that decided that the best course of action is to murder Majora now.

July 23, 2014
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The Bandit

Unless he has a nasty Mafia role, there's no harm waiting a round to kill him. I would rather risk that than ending the game on Day 1.

I think we've made it clear enough that if the Mafia don't kill him during Night 1, we're assuming he's Mafia and will lynch him on Day 2; ergo, if the game ends, the Mafia and the town both lose, but we can have the satisfaction of laying the blame on the Mafia. (hehe)

July 23, 2014
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Jo Nathan



July 23, 2014
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Jo Nathan

I won't get home from work until after the round's deadline so with that being said, I'm going to do....... hnn.... ghhr.................. THIS

god bless america

July 23, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Actually kinda like bossing the mafia around into killing MM9.

So we should make it simple - Mafia axes him tonight and does not janitor the body. If he's the fool then normal gameplay can continue.

If the Mafia fails to kill him we do it ourselves and end the game.

We should nokill in the meantime.

July 23, 2014
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Count Dooku

@SBP: I don't even know how to respond to that other than..


July 23, 2014
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Lightvayne

m

July 23, 2014
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The Bandit

Very suspicious behavior by Lightvayne there.

July 23, 2014
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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

Why not?

July 23, 2014
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Lady Flare

Killing someone may actually be better than not killing someone given the circumstances. It's for this reason that i'll bandwagon and help even this out. Can only hope that they turn out to be mafia if killed.

July 23, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

How many votes did the Executioner need for a kill again?

July 23, 2014
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MajorasMask9

oh whoops lol

July 23, 2014
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The Bandit

lol

July 23, 2014
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MajorasMask9

How many votes did the Executioner need for a kill again?

"Executioner – Can choose to kill any player who reaches 1/3 of the votes during the day round. The player(s) will die at the end of the day round, and at least one vote must come from a non-Mafia member "

So, 6 I think.

oh whoops lol

Come now, we know that was no accident. {roll}

July 23, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

Yeah, I'm mafia and I want to either kill a teammate or kill the fool and end the game.

July 23, 2014
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The Bandit

Gah, wtf is happening here, why am I being targeted? T_T I don't see anything I did being suspicious other than wondering why I suddenly got voted for.

July 23, 2014
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Lightvayne

So one of three things is happening here.

1. People are bonding together to get Lightvanye executed.

2. SBP is posing as the fool trying to throw us off from MM9 who may actually be the fool. (Or they are just working together. )

3. MM9 is actually the false fool and SBP is the real fool.


Or I'm completely wrong about all my theories and everyone's purposely is acting outrageous. I suppose we'll be finding out stuff soon.

July 24, 2014
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EvilGuy0613

I LOVE DIE

July 24, 2014
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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

what the fuck did you just call me

July 24, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Is this... discussion on day 1 I'm witnessing...?

hello the bandit welcome back to mafia I missed you dearly

July 24, 2014
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Apollo Justice

I never liked the Fool...

Plus, I'm sick. Not a super intriguing game for me, but I'll try to stay active. And I know this post is pretty damn useless, but did want to check in before the round ends.

July 24, 2014
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hezekiah

One loophole to consider: the Fisherman killing Majora during the day.

July 24, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Also, I don't see why the Mafia would waste a kill on Majora if he is the Fool. The Fool doesn't do anything good for either side. In addition, I can't see what the Fool could possibly gain from revealing unless I'm missing something which is entirely possible because I've only read the first few replies aside from skimming. But yeah, I am so delighted @ so much discussion but not going to read it all until tomorrow. I'm pseudo-train lagged from 21 hours on a train. I have never missed my sweet bed so much... it's ok... momma's here now, bed...

July 24, 2014
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Apollo Justice

One loophole to consider: the Fisherman killing Majora during the day.


That would be kinda mean :(... Though I assume a day kill would follow the same rules as a night kill. Either way I kind of misunderstood the win conditions of the Fool to start with. I assumed that a nightkill was a win just like getting lynched, just that the game would continue if it was a nightkill.

But the only way the Fool legitimately wins is by getting lynched. A night kill is basically a consolation point. So I kind of blew my chances with that.

July 24, 2014
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MajorasMask9

fortunate Fisherman antics aside...would the mafia even need to "waste" a kill to settle this question?

I can see forcing their hand by threatening a lynch of Majora (bad for them if he's mafia, worse for them if he's telling the truth), but that'd assume you could get a plurality vote for a potentially game-losing play. But an Executioner kill isn't considered a lynch, is it? If Majora gets enough votes on him to permit an execution, the mafia would have no real reason not to pull the trigger on him - unless he's one of them.

July 24, 2014
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Pirate_Ninja

Leveraging the Executioner had occurred to me, but that would just free them up to use their night kill on one of the town. I feel it's better to force them to waste their kill on a neutral party.

July 24, 2014
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Jo Nathan

s this going to be one of those games that's never updated

July 24, 2014
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The Bandit

Round officially ends at 10:21pm EDT, so we're still technically in Day 1.

July 24, 2014
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MajorasMask9

Oh my bad. Was going by the original thread, not the reply.

I officially withdraw my snarky comment.

July 24, 2014
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The Bandit

Okay, so the current plan is to KILL MAJORA

July 24, 2014
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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

Another typical Day One.

July 25, 2014
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chiefsonny
 

As the rain continued to fall, the town returned to their homes, anxious to see who would not join them at sunrise.

Apollo Justice
Hindenburg
Black Yoshi
Speed Bike Pro
MajorasMask9
Lady Flare
EvilGuy0613
Lightvayne
Jo Nathan
white lancer
chiefsonny
The Bandit
Pirate_Ninja
hezekiah
Count Dooku
Chaos Incarnate
Helius
FAW

Starting Ratio 11-6-1

Townie x8, Cop, Governor, Fisherman
Godfather x1, Executioner x1, Ballot Forger x1, Traitor x1, Mafioso x1, Janitor x1
Fool

July 25, 2014
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`Roxas`

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