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night 2 kinda anticlimactic

Posted January 11, 2013 by White Thunder

The town woke up on Day 2 to quite a hectic scene. Just WHAT exactly happened last night?!?

As they gathered for their oddly ritualistic daily meeting, they stumbled upon the barely recognizable corpse of Castrael. They searched her for identification but couldn't find the slightest hint of her affiliations...

As they walked around the town, they came to Helius' house, and his front door had a note taped to it. Long story short, he felt his decision to become the Godfather in the Mafia was a rash one and had decided to leave town.

Finally, the town noticed that Feral was missing. Just as they contemplated his whereabouts, he walked up with a noticeable limp and a cast on his arm. Apparently an assassin had ambushed him the night before, but he had mysteriously (or not so mysteriously) been saved. Hooray!

1. chiefsonny
2. Feral
3. Castrael- ???
4. Female Alpha Wolf
5. Jo Nathan
6. MajorasMask9
7. Black Yoshi- Townie
8. Helius- Godfather
9. Xhin
10. `Roxas`
11. hezekiah
12. CtR Black
13. white lancer
14. Trever Leingod

72 hours or 6 votes to end the day round.

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Well, I'm not entirely convinced about hezekiah's guilt, but his actions to end the round were definitely suspicious. He spoke about a mafioso taking out Feral with just a few moments left before the round ended, was "fairly certain" of Black Yoshi's guilt and was the only valid vote last round. He essentially did the exact thing he was putting out a warning to us.

I'm not voting just yet because I'd like to hear what everybody else's thoughts are.

January 11, 2013
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`Roxas`

If anything the last night confirmed that Feral is the doctor, not that there was much question, and Helius (quitting?) puts us in an amazing position.

I'm suspicious of hezekiah for voting for Black Yoshi at the end of last round. Hezekiah has shown in previous games that he's well aware of the time limit on mafia games. I recall one game when hezekiah was mafia, and wanted to wait until the very last minute of a day round to change his vote without giving the town a chance to react to it. I find it hard to believe he would have not noticed this round ending 20 minutes after his vote, and considering the lack of votes I don't think he'd put in a vote to lynch someone in the way he did if he was a townie. I'll give you that it could be justifiable in the sense that Black Yoshi may have seemed suspicious, but the timing of the vote is a huge red flag to me. Not to mention, I personally didn't think Black Yoshi did anything overly mafia-like.

Other than that I don't have anything else to add just yet. Would still like to hear from hezekiah and others before voting.

January 11, 2013
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MajorasMask9

I'm liking this new games notification area. Makes it so much easier than before.

Anyway, sorry about Day 1. definitely want to play this game.

January 11, 2013
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Xhin
Sky's the limit

So was Helius the real Godfather or is this just a Host Kill thing? Was he even Mafia?

January 11, 2013
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chiefsonny
 

I am highly suspicious of Hezy. I'll change my vote should something change, but for now...

Feral votes for Hezekiah

January 12, 2013
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Feral

So was Helius the real Godfather or is this just a Host Kill thing? Was he even Mafia?

Helius is taking a break from the site and asked to be host killed. He was Mafia.

January 12, 2013
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White Thunder

Helius is taking a break from the site and asked to be host killed. He was Mafia.


I was aware he wanted out of the game. Just was not sure if he was Mafia or not.

Thanks.

January 12, 2013
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chiefsonny
 

Well this is an interesting turn of events. We got a member of the Mafia without even doing anything {:P}

I'm also in agreeance that Feral is indeed the Doctor and that Hezy's actions were... strange. But sometimes with strange actions there is a plausible reason thoooooooough I'm not sure if that's even the case here...

As for other suspicious people, I have some in mind but its more of a gut feeling and I don't have the proper evidence yet. So hopefully this round gives me something.

January 12, 2013
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Female Alpha Wolf

Have to say that I am 90% confident that Chief is NOT Mafia.

January 12, 2013
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Feral

Damn... Helius was actually the one I was intending to vote for in the last round. I don't think I was ever right on my first try before and now he stole my thunder!

I'm suspicious of Hez too and may be voting for him.

January 12, 2013
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Jo Nathan

The one thing about hezy's move last round is that it seems like an incredibly risky move for a Mafia member to take just to get rid of one Townie. Could be that he's counting on people making that assumption, but it's not a move I would make as a Mafia member unless it was right near the end of the game.

As Mafia in past games hezy has laid low and avoided drawing attention towards himself during the first day or two, whereas I recall him being much more aggressive in the first day as an innocent in the Halloween game. I'm not saying we should let him off the hook just yet, but I'm not ready to jump on the obvious target right now.

January 12, 2013
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white lancer

Just making it official.

Look back at his VERY first reply on day 1. He was just a tad bit to excited with the restart. I knew then that he wasn't a vanilla townie.

January 12, 2013
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Feral

Post counts for Round One, so everybody has an idea:

chiefsonny - 2 (had nothing to go off of)
Feral - 8 (revealed to be Doctor, confirmed by Vig target)
Castrael - 8 (killed by Mafia, nothing to go off of)
FAW - 4 (No major suspicions, agreed with Lancer's remarks against random voting)
Jo Nathan - 4 (voiced suspicions of an unnamed player)
MM9 - 5 (Against No Kill but would be okay with one, suspicious of Trever, questions lying about role)
Black Yoshi - 3 (only vote cast against him was hezekiah)
Helius - 2 (requested host kill due to illness)
Xhin - 0 (Pretty self-explanatory)
Roxas - 6 (Initially suggested Random voting when talk of who to kill emerged)
hezekiah - 4 (including only vote to kill Black Yoshi)
CtR - 1 (Off hand remark)
white lancer - 6 (Aggressive or slow play style this game, no suspicions stated)
Trever - 4 (hates the Janitor, offers Feral to the Vig)

Those are all the useful/halfway useful notes I collected. Feel free to add on to this though.

January 12, 2013
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`Roxas`

I don't have a ton of time right now (just set up my new computer and discovered the Escape key on the keyboard doesn't work, so I'm heading to the UPS Store to ship it back before it closes), but I definitely understand why people would think it suspicious that I made Yoshi die. However, why on earth would I have chosen Yoshi with 20 minutes left over Feral with 1 or 2 if I were mafia? Plus, voting for Not Feral meant that it would've taken 2 mafiosos exposing themselves to take out Feral, who at this point is even more nearly confirmed as Doctor (does anyone doubt him?) Not to mention that I thought Yoshi was one of the more suspicious people last round, as I said. Every game I've been in, I've supported a more active town, making lynches and not sitting back waiting for our numbers to dwindle.

January 12, 2013
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hezekiah

You know, I just have a gut feeling. Vote how y'all want, but I think I know who I'm sticking my vote down for.

January 13, 2013
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`Roxas`

chiefsonny - 2 (had nothing to go off of)


And I still haven't heard anything that would give me any undue concern at this point.

Without a Cop, this is just going to be a long guessing game unless someone slips and say's something that might point a finger at them.

You know, I just have a gut feeling


Yea me to. But I think mine may be from the baked beans I had for supper, or the beer I had later.

January 13, 2013
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chiefsonny
 

Hezy's statement makes no sense. No Mafia in thier right mind would have tried to pick me off last second after my revealing and prommicing to prove my role. To do so would be suicide. Killing Yoshi is suspicious enough. Killing the only possibly confirmed innosent would be akin to wearing a sign saying "I'm with Mafia".

January 13, 2013
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Feral

And if I were mafia, that's a trade I would've taken, especially because there's no Cop this game.

January 13, 2013
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hezekiah

Hezy's statement makes sense to me, although it's not 100% proof of his innocence. It's basically the same thing I said earlier--going after Yoshi at the end of the last round was a super risky strategy for a Mafia member to make for very little gain. A sacrifice like that isn't worth making no matter who you take out (unless it's a powerful role like the Cop), and even if he were going to make such a sacrifice you'd think he'd do it against a confirmed power role like Feral rather than someone who hadn't given any indication of having a power role and who hadn't played for several games.

Of course, Feral is right that hezy going after him would be a 100% indicator that he was Mafia whereas this way there's still a lot of room for doubt. Even so, hezy's put himself into the spotlight as a potential Mafia very early in the game and that hasn't been his MO as Mafia in the past.

January 13, 2013
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white lancer

And if I were mafia, that's a trade I would've taken, especially because there's no Cop this game.


What's a trade? Yourself for lynching Feral? I'd argue that the mafia wouldn't care about Feral because he already said he'd be protecting himself for the rest of the game with his early role reveal. Did the mafia target Feral last night? No, they targeted Helius. This is the one reason why I think Feral shouldn't have revealed so early, because if he protects himself every night we'll never prevent anyone from being killed in the night rounds.

The thing about hezekiah's vote that bothers me is that he just conveniently voted at the last opportunity. I remember FAW and Jo Nathan both doing something like this in the Christmas game when they were both mafia. To me, this seems like the most suspicious thing in the game right now.

Roxas mentioned Trever, and I did find him suspicious last round, but it was just minor suspicion based on the one or two replies he posted. Whoever it is we vote for, we should probably sort it out seeing as we only have one more day before the round ends.

January 13, 2013
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MajorasMask9

I think you mean Cas, Majora. Her role was hidden, and Helius requested a host kill due to illness that may take a few weeks to overcome.

January 13, 2013
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`Roxas`

My bad, I did mean Castrael.

January 13, 2013
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MajorasMask9

I am actually confused why Yoshi was killed... there was only one vote, and one or two other people also had one vote...

Anyway, we are slightly shorthanded with two townies down (we do not know what role Castrael had but obviously it wasn't a Mafia one), but we have Feral 100% confirmed as the Doctor and the Godfather is out. Not a terrible situation right now.

I have to agree with above comments that hezekiah's move to off Yoshi with so little against the latter, is so far the most damning bit of evidence... but at the same time it was too risky for a Mafia member to expose themselves to something like that so soon. Or is he just counting us to be fooled by that? Only time will tell... I'm not entirely sold on his guilt, and I never vote for anyone unless I'm >= 95% sure they are guilty. I will watch him closely though, in case I see something obviously Mafia about him.

{:P} As for you Roxas, either your "gut feeling" is just that sly cover-ups Mafiosos use to justify voting for an innocent townie out of the blue, or you had something funny to eat yesterday.

January 14, 2013
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Trever Leingod

As for you Roxas, either your "gut feeling" is just that sly cover-ups Mafiosos use to justify voting for an innocent townie out of the blue, or you had something funny to eat yesterday.

Well, it isn't the former, and I didn't eat any comedians or clowns, so I doubt it is the latter either. {:P}

All somebody has to do is cast a vote that isn't for you in order to stop a death.

Obviously, I wouldn't blame anybody for wanting to vote for me, but I'm not 100% sold on Hezy's guilt (or yours for that matter). If anything, that vote is to stop a killing, for now.

If the Vigilante finds reasonable grounds to off my in the Night, then so be it.

January 14, 2013
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`Roxas`

@Roxas: Feral already has a vote in for hezekiah, meaning we're tied now.

I'm not sure who I'm going to vote for, but I'm pretty confident it's going to be either hezekiah or Trever. There haven't been too many replies the past two rounds so it's kind of hard to get a good read on anyone. CtR hasn't posted this round, Xhin only posted once saying he's going to participate more, etc. I just don't think we should no kill this round.

Will put in a vote sometime tomorrow morning or afternoon.

January 14, 2013
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MajorasMask9

I agree that a no kill probably isn't the best tactic this round (since we won't get any new information during the night), but again I have little reason to suspect anyone. Hezy has the whole vote for Yoshi last round but that's far from proof and I'm a little leery of anyone who tries to pass it off as more damning than it is. And I honestly haven't seen much to elicit suspicion from Trever, but that could be overcorrecting on my part (he usually seems shifty to me even when he isn't, so I try to take that into account).

January 14, 2013
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white lancer

That's why I said:

If anything, that vote is to stop a killing, for now.


January 14, 2013
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`Roxas`

I'm more convinced that Trever's Mafia than hez.

January 14, 2013
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Jo Nathan

Also I will be in training all day. I will try to check back before the round ends but I can't promise I'll be able to. {:?}

January 14, 2013
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Jo Nathan

6 hours left, guys.

Looks like Trever will die via gut feelings.

I'm keeping an eye on Roxas and Jo...

January 14, 2013
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Feral

Gut feelings are killing right now... looks like it is gonna kill me in Mafia. And it might be killing me soon in real life, since the stomach flu has arisen at home... yay... (shifty)

I'm more convinced that Trever's Mafia than hez.

I didn't get an innocents killed, yet I'm more suspicious. Hmm. Go figure. (sad)

January 14, 2013
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Trever Leingod

I'm checking on my break between class. Yay first day back.

And I'm not very experience on Hezy's playing style but I also think it's weird how blunt he's being. Why put yourself out there like that at the start? But still... Could be a trap.

The only reason Trever seems kinda suspicious to me is how defensive he's being without giving a real reason WHY he should be innocent. I don't think the "But I didn't kill a Townie" case proves anything cuz I'm pretty sure all of us have lynched someone innocent by accident in a game or two.

But with that said, I honestly have no idea right now {:P} I may come back with a vote later today once I'm home.

January 14, 2013
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Female Alpha Wolf

Alright, I'm not entirely convinced of Trever's (or hezekiah's) guilt, but thinking about it I've realized we're probably going to get more information about players in this game if we take someone out today. I note that Roxas and MM9 have, both subtly and not-so-subtly, tried to shift suspicions toward those two, and if Trever turns out to be innocent I'm going to take a closer look at those two.

At the same time, I'm worried about players who haven't spoken up much this game. In this game, more than most, an under-the-radar Mafia player is potentially very dangerous since we don't have any investigative roles. All we have to go off of is the posts people make here, so if someone isn't posting they aren't giving us anything either way.

Trever, if you're a special role, you better claim NOW. If not, I'm casting my vote for you.

January 14, 2013
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white lancer

I'm voting for hezekiah.

It's between Trever and hezekiah, and I think hezekiah is more suspicious than Trever at this point. As I said before, it's too hard to get a good read on anyone this game again, but I'm going with my gut right now. I think it's more likely that hezekiah is mafia than Trever and I don't feel like Trever should be lynched yet.

That said, I'm aware this is going to tie the vote. If nobody can get online and vote with me, I'll take my vote off because I don't want a no-kill. I just want to give people who do think hezekiah is suspicious a last chance at voting for him.

January 14, 2013
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MajorasMask9

We're at just under an hour left in the round now.

So it seems like the lynch this round is going to be either me, Trever or nobody. Of those 3 options, I feel most comfortable with nobody. Trever hasn't really done anything that others haven't that would've cast guilt on him that I can recall (wow, what a clause), and he seems to be playing roughly the same as he has in the past.

What does concern me is how Majora is talking about taking his vote away from me to allow Trever to be lynched. I don't intend to cast a vote for Trever to die, but would do so to save my own life. I'm starting to have some broader theories about who the mafiosos are this game, but wouldn't mind waiting until tomorrow to share that info. And as others have said, the inactivity by some players definitely doesn't help matters.

January 14, 2013
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hezekiah

With the little information we have to go on at this point I will not vote for a active player.

January 14, 2013
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chiefsonny
 

I'm not sure about Roxas' gut feeling, but I'm voting for Trev primarily because it seemed too much like he was putting on an act with his expressing distaste for the Janitor role. It just seems to me like he was laying it on a bit too thick.

Hez obviously got attention by being the sole voter to kill off an innocent in the last round. I understand why he's getting the votes that he is, and I probably would be voting for him if it weren't for Trever. But the reason I chose Trever over him is because I can see the possibility that hez is a townie who just didn't want to stick with the usual no-kill and voted for someone he genuinely thought was suspicious.

If whoever gets lynched turns out to be innocent, I request that the vigilante refrain from using his/her night kill. I don't want to see three innocents die in a single day/night cycle.

January 14, 2013
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Jo Nathan

I'll leave it tied as long as the vigilante will kill someone tonight. I don't expect anyone to claim vigilante and reply to this, but if we no-kill and the vigilante doesn't kill anyone, we essentially just wasted a day round. At least if the vigilante kills someone we can get some information.

January 14, 2013
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MajorasMask9

To add to Jo Nathan's post, yes, if we do lynch someone and they turn out innocent, it would definitely not be a good idea for the vigilante to kill anyone in the night. If the vigilante killed an innocent person as well we'd be in a mislynch and lose scenario, and those are terrible.

January 14, 2013
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MajorasMask9

It would seem that the round ends with a tie, which I guess is not necessarily a bad thing. However it does beg the question, did any of us manipulated things to make it end as a tie so that a fellow Mafia didn't get killed? (shifty)

January 14, 2013
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Jo Nathan

The town couldn't decide on who to lynch today, so they go to bed with the same number of players that they woke up with. But what will they wake up with tomorrow?

1. chiefsonny
2. Feral
3. Castrael- ???
4. Female Alpha Wolf
5. Jo Nathan
6. MajorasMask9
7. Black Yoshi- Townie
8. Helius- Godfather
9. Xhin
10. `Roxas`
11. hezekiah
12. CtR Black
13. white lancer
14. Trever Leingod

24 hours or until all night actions are done.

January 14, 2013
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White Thunder

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