Mafia

{8D}

I'm curious as to why the mafia didn't Janitor MM9. Was it because the FBI Agent got to him first or?

In either case, excellent work on Redack's part. Takes care of the mafia's most annoying and powerful role for us.

Oh I see... the FBI agent arrested him and that nullified the mafia's kill entirely.

Makes sense, got it.

Also if I die this Night round here's my current theories on mafia (I won't be sharing knowledge/theories on town roles since mafia could exploit them).

Black Yoshi- was a little suspicious in day 1. This was mainly because of the way he joined the Castrael bandwagon, I know a few people joined me but the way he did it seemed more like he was positioning himself to take credit as the instigator (which would later make him look innocent). That alone I felt wasn't worth bringing up but then Castrael voted for him out of the blue... That struck me as odd, I think she voted for him because he's mafia. Part revenge and part if we'd followed her she'd look innocent.

Jo Nathan- very little here worth mentioning, however Castrael also randomly voted for him... He voting for Yoshi and Nathan just strikes me as very very odd given that she never voted for well me... I was the one that got her lynched and she voted for two random people and Jo seemed like he wasn't that dedicated to it.

Everyone that's quiet- I'm always suspicious of these people, even when it's their normal play style because- If you can't read someone, suspect them.

Feral- maybe, I don't have too much for him. Some of the things he's said could lean either to simple misinterpretation or actually being mafia. I wouldn't recommend perusing him right now.

The rest I'm still trying to decide what of think of (or know what role they have, or have a very good idea).

Hopefully I don't die, but I always expect I will every night round {:P}

I believe the FBI's actions have higher priority than a mafia kill.

I came one second too late to vote last round. So I couldn't pull out my evidence and look like a good player :( (and now I'm being a bad employee by sneaking on at work. Sssshhhh.)

I will look over my other predictions when i get home.

Also type in my replies "her voting for" instead if "he voting for"

one of the first things that black yoshi said was that he was suspicious of castrael and that was before majority of townfolk were looking her way. if black yoshi was a mafioso I don't think he would have gone after her so early on

though I do agree that castrael trying to turn the attention towards black yoshi would have been a good way of making him appear innocent, coming from custodial services and all. however, with black yoshi going after castrael so early on, I have a hard time convincing myself that he is a mafioso

Man good call Redack. Kudos.

I need to go back and read the post again. See if I'm missing something.

We could always ask the cop to check Yoshi... I just think he tried to position himself as being innocent when he started talking about his suspicions of Castrael. Then Castrael voting for him just really, really seems really unlikely to be random chance.

If the cop could check Yoshi, as a favour to me since I did cure their sanity problems :)

At least to rule him out? Although godfather is somewhere, but it'd rule Yoshi out for now if he came out innocent and allow the town to focus on someone else.

As far as Majora goes, how exactly would the Janitor hide the body of someone who ISN'T DEAD? Majora is locked up in prison. No Mafioso is gonna risk getting caught by the FBI trying to kill and dispose of a prisoner.

I am the king of misunderstanding things, so no surprise there, Red. But at least we know that you aren't Mafia.

As far as Majora goes, how exactly would the Janitor hide the body of someone who ISN'T DEAD? Majora is locked up in prison. No Mafioso is gonna risk getting caught by the FBI trying to kill and dispose of a prisoner.

I assume this was directed at me.

When I first read the Day 2 thread, I thought that the FBI Agent had arrested MM9 and then the mafia had killed him and then not hid the body.

Having re-read it (and noticed the top of this thread), I realized that the mafia just butchered the fake SWAT and didn't kill MM9.

Just a mistake on my part.

Hooray, 1 down 3 to go. Will I get to vote next round (crs)

Redack is usually very good at reading people, so I think his ideas are as good as any to pursue tomorrow. Also with a townie gone and Redack confirmed Psych, it's a good time to at least start considering a role claim, particularly if the Cop gets a guilty result tonight.

Redack is usually very good at reading people, so I think his ideas are as good as any to pursue tomorrow. Also with a townie gone and Redack confirmed Psych, it's a good time to at least start considering a role claim, particularly if the Cop gets a guilty result tonight.

Woah woah woah... that's a terrible idea.

The janitor is dead. If we lose any power roles we'll know who they were, the mafia can't impersonate them.

But if we all roleclaim this round, and assuming we lose Redack in a revenge killing:

Town sided:
1x Cop
1x Governor
7x Townie

Third party:
1x FBI Agent
1x Journalist

The mafia would just claim townie, so you end up with 10 townie claims. Within 4 rounds the town has lost all of their power roles (I'm counting third party as town aligned). Then you're left with a pool of unconfirmed townies and little support for them.

A roleclaim would only be a good idea if we (to be frank) lose several more townies. Currently it would only help the mafia kill off our useful roles.

Mmm. I didn't realize how many townies there are. You're probably right.

Wow, fast day round.

I'm inclined to agree with Dooku that a roleclaim at this point would be a bad idea. HOWEVER, there is another way to use the Journalist's power that could come in handy if the Cop roleclaims in the next few rounds or so. The Journalist can pretty much be a pseudo-Doctor--they won't be able to prevent the Cop from dying, but if they select the Cop the night after they roleclaim, the Mafia won't be able to kill him without one of them being revealed to the Journalist. I wouldn't suggest that the Cop reveal right now because they're unlikely to be targeted randomly this night round anyway--Redack's already an obvious target for the Mafia in order to cut down on 'known' innocents--but if they manage to get one guilty verdict and the Journalist is still alive, I think it'll be worth it for them to claim immediately (especially since there would only be one more Mafia member that they could identify anyway, as opposed to two for the Journalist).

With that in mind, I don't think a full roleclaim would be quite as disastrous as Dooku thinks (though doing it during the night round is a terrible idea, of course). The Cop would get at least one investigation to narrow down the list of suspects, and with the FBI Agent arresting during the night the list of suspects would be cut down quickly. By my math, if we and the FBI Agent hit a Townie every single time in four tries, we would lose after Night 4 (or Day 5, if the FBI Agent still being alive was enough to keep the game going at 3-3). Obviously not ideal, BUT, if the Mafia hit just one more Townie or we get another Mafia member, it becomes a lot more feasible--waiting one or maybe two more rounds before a roleclaim could be huge, unless the Mafia manage to hit a power role besides Redack.

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But seriously, that's a great observation on the journalist-cop combination. Should definitely attempt it when the cop gets a guilty.

What is the Journalist's winning goal again? Would it help them to work with us?

Great job, Redack. {8D} Also, brilliant thinking, lancer. Absolutely brilliant.

Good post white lancer.

Might be a good idea to post it again in the next Day round, since it may be missed in the night talk.

I just hope our Cop is active and waits until he gets a guilty find before he reports so as not to put a target on his back.