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Posted February 13, 2013 by white lancer

Screams light up the night, but instead of going out to investigate the disturbance, the entire Town simply rolled over in their beds and reached for their earplugs. How selfish. Guess you all figured you'd find out what that was about in the morning, which, hey, you did! The lovely fountain in the middle of Town runs red, as the eviscerated corpse of Roxas, bearing 12 distinct stab wounds, is found there. Rest in peace, Townie.

Also, there's a notice for the Town! It appears the notorious Ballot Forger has decided a change of occupation is necessary. Instead of sticking as this role, they have decided to take up a more...wordly occupation as the Town Hooker. Perhaps the Town might rejoice, but remember that the Hooker could, uh, distract the Dreamer or Oracle from exercising their powers in the Night rounds.*

1. Black Yoshi
2. MajorasMask9
3. chiefsonny
4. Jo Nathan
5. White Thunder
6. 'Roxas' -- Townie
7. Female Alpha Wolf
8. hezekiah
9. Castrael
10. Count Dooku
11. CtR Black
12. Xhin

Town-Mafia ratio:
7-4

*Note: the Ballot Forger in this game was removed and replaced with the Hooker because of how powerful the role could have been. There was a chance the Ballot Forger could have ended the game after a single round, so I felt as though it should be removed and the Mafia consented. This is also the reason for the slightly longer night round. There will be no more role swaps during this game and the rounds will close on schedule from now on. Apologies for any confusion.

72 hours or 7 votes for one option.

There are 42 Replies


Roxas huh? Well it's obvious what move to make...

February 13, 2013
Xhin
Sky's the limit

Still intend to vote for JN barring something else coming up.

I also thought that with only 3 townies remaining a role reveal might be a good idea, but the presence of the Lovers probably makes that too dangerous.

February 13, 2013
White Thunder

Well... I'm rather disappointed. I'm keeping an eye on FAW and MM9. MM9 is a pretty damn good player and FAW just screams Mafia.

February 13, 2013
Castrael

Well it looks like I was right about my pattern. I wish I hadn't revealed it.... I could have used it as my secret weapon forever. (facepalm)

If White Thunder is Mafia, I could see why I'd be the best target for him considering my unusual practice in the last round. Mis-lynch, apologize and point out that I was acting unusual. If you guys follow him and lynch me, I strongly suggest you lynch him in the next round, assuming the Mafia don't hit one of the lovers during the night and end the game.

February 13, 2013
Jo Nathan

Well if I'm wrong the game is pretty close to over. Gosh, we need more people. We should recruit more for the next game.

February 13, 2013
White Thunder

I thought you were going to wait to see if anything else came up. I figured you'd do as much, though. Try to silence me as quickly as possible. {;)}

February 13, 2013
Jo Nathan

Oh, Nathan. Nathan. Nathan. We aren't provoking the Mafia are we?

(hehe)

February 14, 2013
Castrael

*Mafia now are we.

:/ stupid errors.

February 14, 2013
Castrael

That last post of yours made me pretty confident.

February 14, 2013
White Thunder

If I were Mafia I would have left Black Yoshi's suspicion of Roxas alone instead of going out on a limb to defend him.

Which brings me to another point - if anyone's observed my style in previous games, unless I'm pushed to do otherwise later in the game, I try to let other people do most of the talking when I'm Mafia, and I'm more vocal when I'm town-sided.

I'm convinced you're Mafia but I'll have to just let the chips fall where they may and see what happens.

Black Yoshi could be too... I mean, voting for Roxas isn't proof of guilt but it's one of the only things that even happened last round.

February 14, 2013
Jo Nathan

You were Mafia the last normal game I played and we were it together in the Christmas game. I know your style.

February 14, 2013
White Thunder

Wow -- so the Ballot Forger's now the Hooker? Damn, didn't see that one coming.

Black Yoshi could be too... I mean, voting for Roxas isn't proof of guilt, but it's one of the only things that even hsppened last round.


Of course that's not proof of guilt. It just seemed like something a Mafia would do -- considering that the last couple of times I saw someone vote based on instinct, the person voting was Mafia.

February 14, 2013
Black Yoshi

White thunder is being way too accusatory way too early into the game.

February 14, 2013
Xhin
Sky's the limit

So do we get to use the Hooker's services?

And does anyone know what she charges?

February 14, 2013
chiefsonny
 

And does anyone know what she charges?

Yes i am interested in this also

February 14, 2013
CtR Black

Men.

(facepalm)

February 14, 2013
Castrael

:P I kid.

I'm betting my vote on Hezekiah or MM9. MM9 hasnt really been helping the Townies at all this round really.

February 14, 2013
Castrael

FAW just screams Mafia.

How do I "scream" it when the only thing I've done all game is place a No Kill vote and respond to the jokes going on at the beginning of the last round? {:P}
While I say that you're a bit more suspicious because you haven't said AS MUCH as you usually do each round. Could be the usual tactic of "I can't look guilty if I don't say anything".

But I'm just speculating (hehe)

Since this appears to be a battle of White Thunder vs Jo Nathan, if I had to pick between the two right now I would say White Thunder. Though I don't have much to back that up with juuuuuuuuuust yet.

February 14, 2013
Female Alpha Wolf

I think my reasoning is sound. With such a small group we need to take quick action. I stand by my vote.

February 14, 2013
White Thunder

Lol FAW, I started realizing a couple of hours later into that post. And I've been cleaning my closet out and chitchatting with Dooku and watching my recorded shows. I kept busy.

And I feel Thunder is defending himself while Nathan's trying to convince the whole town that he could very well be bad guy. When Nathan's POV could very well be the opposite, to keep himself safe.

These are my thoughts. I know who I am voting for, but I want to see what everyone else thinks.

February 14, 2013
Castrael

Every time White Thunder posts it secures my belief that he's Mafia. We do have a small group, but I fail to see why that requires us to take quick action. He's just trying to get me voted off as quickly as possible so people won't think things through.

February 14, 2013
Jo Nathan

I'm tempted to vote Thunder myself, based on what I've seen this round. As JN said, when he's Mafia, he doesn't talk too much in the main threads, and he's been talking a mile a minute. Thus, if one of them is Mafia, it has to be Thunder.

February 14, 2013
Black Yoshi

Well, since this is a battle btw Thunder and Nathan, I wonder why the Mafia ain't defending him? Because usually the Mafia defends their teammate. I'd like to end it. You did voted me off that last game with chief. I'm starting to wonder what chief is planning. Sorry Nathan.

February 14, 2013
Castrael

And usually MM9 is helping out. I'd like to think I know who the Mafia are, but I aint going there. xD

February 14, 2013
Castrael

weird vibe this game, don't know what to believe... I'll post thoughts tomorrow morning, unless work gets unexpectedly busy.

February 14, 2013
hezekiah

Eh, I'm not buying the White Thunder / Jo Nathan back and forth. Doesn't really seem based on anything other than them 'feeling' that the other is mafia.

Not that I have a brilliant suggestion of who to vote for instead :P

February 15, 2013
Count Dooku

Well it's been way too quiet. Thunder is a strong player by himself, but if my suspicions are correct he also has a private thread with three teammates who can put their heads together to figure out how to throw me under the bus. The thought of that is unsettling for me, so I'm going to break the silence first.

My first post in this round was partially a test to see how White Thunder would respond to any suggestion that he could be Mafia, and he immediately voted for me, which I interpret as an effort to both get the attention away from him and to also get rid of me before I can say more. It also contradicts his previous post that said he would wait to see if anything else came up in the round.

Suggesting that we "take quick action" because we have a small group is an effort to pressure the town to vote for me without thinking. If anything, having a small group and a closer ratio should mean we SHOULDN'T make hasty decisions.

When I referenced my previous play styles, he simply said "I know your style" and didn't actually deny what I said.

All of his replies are very short and quick. Could it be because there isn't enough substance to his claims against me, or is he afraid that by talking too much he might accidentally incriminate himself?

One thing I'm surprised he didn't do (yet), though, is try to say "Roxas suspected him and now Roxas is dead". I'm actually thinking killing Roxas was part of their orchestration to try to get me lynched.

I'll say this while I can. As a contingency plan if you guys do decide to lynch me instead of him and the town survives to see Day 3, I would suggest going after him and Cas. She has me suspicious for a couple reasons:

Oh, Nathan. Nathan. Nathan. We aren't provoking the Mafia are we?


Many a truth is said in jest, and this comment just doesn't sit well with me.

Well, since this is a battle btw Thunder and Nathan, I wonder why the Mafia ain't defending him? Because usually the Mafia defends their teammate. I'd like to end it. You did voted me off that last game with chief. I'm starting to wonder what chief is planning. Sorry Nathan.


By that logic, I feel that she's defending Thunder who I already am sure is Mafia, which makes me suspicious of her as well. And voting for me to get revenge from a previous game (which I can't completely blame her for... {:P}) isn't proof of my guilt.

February 15, 2013
Jo Nathan

^ Lol. I really don't understand how anyone can think he's not Mafia after that post. I mean, just look at that first paragraph. It just seems so obvious.

One thing I'm surprised he didn't do (yet), though, is try to say "Roxas suspected him and now Roxas is dead". I'm actually thinking killing Roxas was part of their orchestration to try to get me lynched.

From my experience both as town and Mafia in the past I've found that extrapolating from the Mafia night kill is risky at best. It may or may not have anything to do with what's been going on in the game.

February 15, 2013
White Thunder

Now he's patronizing you, making it seem you'd be stupid to think I'm innocent.

And yet he hasn't said anything to contradict anything I said, with the exception of the Roxas thing.

February 15, 2013
Jo Nathan

Thunder is a strong player by himself, but if my suspicions are correct he also has a private thread with three teammates who can put their heads together to figure out how to throw me under the bus.


Proof to me that JN is, in fact, innocent; only a Mafia would be aware without having to read the first main thread of this game that the Traitor doesn't know who the Mafia are and vice versa. Thus the Traitor cannot gain access to the Mafia thread, and thus Thunder would only have two teammates with whom to conspire. Of the two, my bet on who's Mafia still lies with Thunder.

February 15, 2013
Black Yoshi

And yet why would he have gone out of his way to say it like that? Instead of just saying it any other way possible? That seems to me like a sure sign he's trying to play you.

Look how hard he's trying. Experienced players know that this is the typical response by an accused Mafia member. He says I haven't refuted anything he's put forth but it's all been hot air. Typical Mafia response.

February 15, 2013
White Thunder

My current thought right now; after reading all of this is: I'm no threat. Actually. I'm agreeing with Dooks on this one. I'm taking a step back before I get involved in anything. lol.

After looking back, I did notice that Nathan voted for Roxas, which practically killed him last round. So. Thoughts any one?

February 15, 2013
Castrael

The one argument of yours that has substance is this:

And yet why would he have gone out of his way to say it like that? Instead of just saying it any other way possible? That seems to me like a sure sign he's trying to play you.


Honestly I just forgot about the Traitor role, and I regret that you found a clever way to twist this against me. Score one for you.

Look how hard he's trying. Experienced players know that this is the typical response by an accused Mafia member. He says I haven't refuted anything he's put forth but it's all been hot air. Typical Mafia response.


I didn't feel like I was trying hard. I rounded up my list and presented it to the group since there are some who are still trying to make up their minds. If anyone is trying hard, it's you. My list isn't hot air just because you say it is, and I'm still waiting to see how you can refute my points.

In actuality, typical Mafia responses would include things that are an attempt to get people to think voting for me is the "logical" or "smart" thing to do, for lack of any other evidence to use against me. This strategy is used all the time, and you're using it this time with things like:

I really don't understand how anyone can think he's not Mafia after that post.


Experienced players know that this is the typical response by an accused Mafia member.


THAT is what I call hot air.

February 15, 2013
Jo Nathan

All I know is, even with one of the two being guilty, we'll still have 3 more to sniff out. This person's actions so far make me think he's one of the three, so he's got my vote (for now, at least). And if neither Jo nor Thunder is evil, it's 50/50 in my book.

February 15, 2013
hezekiah

My concern right now is MM9. Where's he at when needed? He could very well be helping either of you. He hasn't helped the town once.

:P

February 15, 2013
Castrael

Actually, I didnt want to make that a vote. Oops.

February 15, 2013
Castrael

I've decided to place my vote and I already have someone else in mind..

February 15, 2013
Female Alpha Wolf

Hezy, for all I know, you could be Mafia along with Chief, MM9 ad it's either Thunder or Nathan. xD I dont see Yoshi as a threat to this game xD

February 16, 2013
Castrael

I'm sorry I've been inactive it's been a mixture of being busy and wanting to play Fire Emblem in my spare time I'm a terrible person :(.

Round ends tomorrow so I'm going to read this over in the morning and post my thoughts then.

February 16, 2013
MajorasMask9

We're looking for the Traitor in order to win. And I just want to get rid of the Town's Hooker. And since I have work in the next couple of hours or so I'm going to go ahead and cast my vote and make it official.

Since I'm sure Thunder could very well be the Mafia, I'm more concerned as to who the Traitor could be. With someone defending himself so much, it's hard to say. I'm feeling confused.

February 16, 2013
Castrael

Proof to me that JN is, in fact, innocent; only a Mafia would be aware without having to read the first main thread of this game that the Traitor doesn't know who the Mafia are and vice versa. Thus the Traitor cannot gain access to the Mafia thread, and thus Thunder would only have two teammates with whom to conspire. Of the two, my bet on who's Mafia still lies with Thunder.

Seems sketchy (or significantly clever on JN's part) at best, but that's actually a good point. I still don't agree to lynching either of them, but if one has to go this round WT is probably the safer lynch.

It's also worth noting that I think we have something like 3 hours left before the round automatically ends (Xhin, you should add some kind of countdown clock for use in these games).

February 16, 2013
Count Dooku

After a lot of back-and-forth and mutual accusations, the Town finally came to a decision, and White Thunder was the one set under the guillotine's blade. Alas, mere seconds after his head went tumbling away, Thunder was revealed to be an ordinary Townie.

1. Black Yoshi
2. MajorasMask9
3. chiefsonny
4. Jo Nathan
5. White Thunder -- Townie
6. 'Roxas' -- Townie
7. Female Alpha Wolf
8. hezekiah
9. Castrael
10. Count Dooku
11. CtR Black
12. Xhin

Town-Mafia ratio:
6-4

24 hours or until all night actions are in.

February 16, 2013
white lancer

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