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night 3 townie youre going down

Posted July 31, 2014 by `Roxas`

Another day, another person missing from the town and an abandoned house upon investigation. Jo Nathan was nowhere to be found.

Apollo Justice
Hindenburg
Black Yoshi
Speed Bike Pro
MajorasMask9 - ????
Lady Flare
EvilGuy0613
Lightvayne
Jo Nathan - ????
white lancer
chiefsonny
The Bandit
Pirate_Ninja
hezekiah
Count Dooku
Chaos Incarnate
Helius
FAW

Starting Ratio 11-6-1

Townie x8, Cop, Governor, Fisherman
Godfather x1, Executioner x1, Ballot Forger x1, Traitor x1, Mafioso x1, Janitor x1
Fool

72 Hours OR 11 Votes. Executioner Kill enabled after 6 votes for the same option.

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July 31, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

As I said before, we really should be killing someone. The mafia's advantage only continues to grow at this point.

I think it's time that we start throwing out our personal suspicions and discussing them. Maybe then we can come to a conclusion on who it would be best to vote for.

Personally i'm not too sure what to think about Speed Bike Pro. He's been acting strange the entire game. Perhaps he's being vague but random to keep suspicion off of himself.

Hindenburg is also fairly unpredictable, but i'm inclined to believe that he is mafia by the way he acts and by the way he just jumped the vote like that in day 1.

"Pirate_Ninja" and FAW have been fairly silent in this game. Which means that he may well be Mafia, or they just have... some other reason to stay silent.

White Lancer, and the Bandit it's just a gut feeling. Though the later may have been somewhat influenced by his accusations towards me.

July 31, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

Classic mafia strategy is to try and cast suspicion on as many people as possible. Chaos just listed half of the roster.

July 31, 2014
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The Bandit

So basically we're supposed to sit around and doing nothing?

THAT'S your strategy? Are you seriously right now, brah?

July 31, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

Used the wrong form of serious. He's cracking under the pressure. Sic em, gang.

July 31, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Oh no, I'm not cracking under pressure of this specifically. I do get stressed a lot in general. As I said before, lynching me with benefit us nothing. And if it turns out I do get lynched, you should pay attention to what I said.

But seriously. Bandit is suggesting that we just do nothing while the mafia picks us off.

I am suggesting that we actually try to work together to figure out who the Mafia are.

I can understand your point of view, but look where we are. We don't have the luxury of being passive. That is EXACTLY what the Mafia wants us to do right now. To allow them to pick us off, without even finding any of them out.

I don't want to shitfling, but at this point I have to point it out. You both are doing exactly what the Mafia wants us to do, and I think there is a fair chance that you both ARE Mafia at this point.

July 31, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

But seriously. Bandit is suggesting that we just do nothing while the mafia picks us off.

No.... I never did this? I was pointing out something you did that looked suspicious to me. I'm not sure how that translates to "we should do NOTHING!" but OK.

Your last post does look a lot more towniey though, if a little hysterical.

July 31, 2014
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The Bandit

It translates to "we should do nothing" because you are criticizing my idea of snuffing out the mafia. The only one that has been thrown out so far.

You also didn't even vote last round iirc.

You voted for Majora's Mask right off that bat, then you pointed out the fact that I wanted to kill someone, and implied that it is cause for suspicion.

It doesn't seem to add up.

As for Speed, well I guess I jumped the gun on that one. But the way he is acting is just as suspicious.

I dunno. Maybe I'm missing something here, but I can't understand the value of doing nothing at this point.

July 31, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

You heard the man, folks. He jumped the gun. Who owns guns? Murderers.

July 31, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

It translates to "we should do nothing" because you are criticizing my idea of snuffing out the mafia. The only one that has been thrown out so far.

dude what

I criticized you for trying to throw suspicion onto like 8 people at once. "snuffing out the mafia" isn't very useful if you just claim you think everyone might be mafia. That's literally all I've said this round.

And I didn't vote last round, because I firmly believed that killing last round would be a colossal mistake. I don't know why you would think that would mean that I would never want to vote for someone ever again.

but I can't understand the value of doing nothing at this point.

lol please stop saying this

July 31, 2014
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The Bandit

And I encouraged everyone else to do the same. But apparently discussing our suspicions at length doesn't work here.

July 31, 2014
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Chaos Incarnate

Hmmm I'm not quite sure what to make of chaos's actions. I find him more suspicious then before but he is right about one thing. We're being way too passive! Can't tell you how many people were repeating the same theory about MM9 being the actual fool, it almost seemed like everyone was trying to play it safe.

I do believe we need to kill someone. Going to vote for The Bandit. He seems to be quite switchy and passive.

July 31, 2014
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EvilGuy0613

What a fascinating disagreement you're both having...

July 31, 2014
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Count Dooku

I think you both a acting a bit strange tbh. Its because of that fact that I'm not voting either of you only because he have no proof the fool is dead. With that being said...

July 31, 2014
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Lightvayne

SON OF A FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
.....

Let's try that again, shall we?

July 31, 2014
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Lightvayne

Hmm...interesting.

July 31, 2014
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Lady Flare

Mmmm...

July 31, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Day 3 and still little if anything to go on, aside from that Chaos is generally causing, well, chaos and that The Bandit is being a bit more passive than usual, and the random vote feature hates Lightvayne. I've said in the past that it's better to play as if the Fool is still around, but where's that gotten us? Worst case scenario, we could be down two Townies, and one more down would cost us the game. That said, voting for the one person who sticks out in my opinion:

July 31, 2014
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Black Yoshi

I don't know you guys well enough to make any sort of judgment call (and its seems suspicious that suddenly LF and SBP suddenly switched their vote to me without any reasoning at all) so I'm gonna trust BY here and go with...

July 31, 2014
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Lightvayne

Hhhh...

July 31, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Ok, we need to vote someone off and I really hope he's mafia.

July 31, 2014
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Lady Flare

How have I played passively? I wanted to fucking murder a Fool suspect on Day1 because I was convinced he was mafia. Hello? Are you guys playing the same game I am?

July 31, 2014
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The Bandit

lmao

It's pretty obvious the mafia is trying to scrape together enough votes for an Executioner kill, and they only need one more. When have you guys EVER known the Town to be confident enough to lynch someone in the first 24 hours of a round?

July 31, 2014
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The Bandit

The bandit has a point. If any one player gets 6 votes and at least one of them is a Mafia, then we will be down 2 more the next day round.

July 31, 2014
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chiefsonny
 

GOODBYE

July 31, 2014
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Hindenburg
Life's path is never straight.

Good lynch, well played.

August 1, 2014
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The Bandit

That's interesting chief. You seem fairly convinced that we will be down 2 Town sided players.

August 1, 2014
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Lady Flare

ok @ so many votes blowing up in a short window of time

The Bandit has literally been as typical town-sided Bandit as ever. In addition, if he were Mafia, he probably would have role-claimed because 1. he's done it before and 2. there is literally a Janitor in play so that gives him at least 1 option to claim something (assuming Majora was probably the Fool and it'd probably look more suspicious if he claimed Fool as it is).

I mean, I guess it's possible that the other night kill was the Traitor and therefore it would be ineffective for him to claim either way just by use of the Janitor, but I'm pretty sure he would be taking the risk of claiming REGARDLESS if he were Mafia. Or maybe just the Traitor himself but still unlikely by the way he's been playing.

Anyways, assuming he's killed by the Executioner, it'll finally give us something solid to go on. Playing with the Janitor blows and I've always thought it was too over-powered. The Mafia in general is really overpowered this game with the Executioner AND Godfather AND Ballot Forger (but ey that's none of my business)

On that note, it's possible one of the Ballot Forger votes was one of the previous players who already voted for The Bandit. I guess that's some glimmer of hope and the fact that he wasn't immediately axed might speak to that.

August 1, 2014
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Apollo Justice

Yeah, CHIEF...

August 1, 2014
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Speed Bike Pro
 

Hey Speed, stop that. Incidently, you're joking around again so I probably won't vote for you.

August 1, 2014
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Lady Flare

That's interesting chief. You seem fairly convinced that we will be down 2 Town sided players.


Did you put any thought any to this b4 you typed it?

1. Executioner kill if they take it because he would know who's Mafia and who's not.

2. Mafia Night kill.

Hello{fp}

August 1, 2014
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chiefsonny
 

*any to

  • end to

    • August 1, 2014
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    chiefsonny
     

    Flare voting for me, and then switching over to chief, seems pretty suspicious to me. Her vote was pretty critical, as it gave the mafia the power to take me out if they wished, but she gave very little reason for doing so. She's usually a much more calculating player than this, and saying "well we need to get rid of SOMEONE" so early in the round, knowing it could put a teammate at risk, just doesn't sound like her.

    I wouldn't advise taking anyone out today though. We're guaranteed to go to Day4 at 9-6, and if we do a real mislynch today we'd be at 8-6. With the ballot Forger in play, we'd be pretty much done. Talk it out today and tomorrow, see who gets Night killed, and if no obvious target comes up on Day4 the Cop/Fisherman can hopefully come forward and give us a hand.

    Anyways, I'm not going to devote a ton more energy into this game. We were pretty fucked from the start with the OP mafia, and then getting killed like this is pretty frustrating. Best of luck to the Town, maybe you guys can get it together and do something worthwhile.

    August 1, 2014
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    The Bandit

    I wasn't actually thinking. I thought we still needed 6 votes for an Execution.

    @Chief: you are pretty confident that they are Town sided. Please give us your Mafia picks since you know who is Town sided and who isn't.

    August 1, 2014
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    Lady Flare

    I don't know anymore then you do about who's townie other then me.

    But I find it very hard to believe the the Mafia would throw 2 of their own under the bus this early in the game.

    And at the time I made my post above there were 5 votes for The Bandit. And if he is town sided and got one more vote, the Executioner could do his thing and there would be nothing we could do about it.

    We should never give the Executioner the votes he needs if we don't know the side of who we're lynching. Keep the vote one vote below.

    August 1, 2014
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    chiefsonny
     

    I'm actually surprised on how quick some bandwagoned against The Bandit but being that two of the votes were by Speed and Hinderberg maybe not too much of a concern considering how they have been playing.

    But yeah now I'm wondering about Lady Flare as well

    August 1, 2014
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    EvilGuy0613

    Also chiefsonny definitely has a point. I see no reason for Mafia to vote for one of their own unless they believe their teammate is screwed. Somehow I don't think that was what's going on.

    Possibly too late for Bandit but...at least for now.

    August 1, 2014
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    EvilGuy0613

    I think EvilGuy is definitely casting some suspicion with that one.

    August 1, 2014
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    Hindenburg
    Life's path is never straight.

    ooh ooh I got quoteymarks in the rundown



    and wow okay people chill a minute maybe. Impulsively throwing votes all over helps the mafia more than anything; the last thing this sad little town needs is to invite the possibility of multiple innocent deaths. At the very least, anyone else hitting the 6-vote mark needs to be an actual committed choice.

    August 1, 2014
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    Pirate_Ninja

    Well, I've been pointing out that Speed and Hindy have been playing strangely. You can't look at their posts and not consider that.

    Of course, I really don't have anything to go on.

    August 1, 2014
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    Helius

    Seriously, how many votes does it take for an Execution? 5 or 6? The Janitor hides are confusing me.

    August 1, 2014
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    Lady Flare

    6, but I don't think The Bandit had 6 votes for very long, so it's very likely either the Executioner didn't get the kill in on time or the Ballot Forger changed one of the voter's votes.

    August 1, 2014
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    Apollo Justice

    Helius, I've been mentioning Speed Bike Pro and Hindenburg's odd behavior since the beginning pretty much. With nobody to speak up there isn't much to go on but our instincts I guess.

    There's an unlikely chance The Bandit hasn't died yet because he is actually mafia. I really don't know at this point or care. I believe someone needs to die and I'm not fully convinced he's a townie but if it appears he's not then that's unfortunate. I think we'll be finding things out that's for sure.

    August 1, 2014
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    EvilGuy0613

    We should be killing someone if only to give us more information than "???" per kill. We have the benefit of Majora role-revealing before he died, but not much else in Jo Nathan's death. I did get unsettling vibes from Jo Nathan, for whatever it's worth (aka probably nothing and we won't know until the end of the game because JANITOR WOOHOO YEEEEEAH NICE)

    It's possible The Bandit is Mafia and obviously they wouldn't Execute him under those circumstances, but I still find it unlikely.

    I'm going with this because she will probably be host-killed anyways for inactivity, and in the case that she's not Mafia, I'd rather lessen the casualties. Still, inactivity speaks a lot more than I think people give it credit for... GUILTY CREDIT

    August 1, 2014
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    Apollo Justice

    There's an unlikely chance The Bandit hasn't died yet because he is actually mafia.

    The Executioner kill always takes place at the end of the round. It isn't an instakill.

    August 1, 2014
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    The Bandit

    Also, the Executioner doesn't have to be present to activate his power. At least, that's how it worked when I was Executioner. If a target reaches the required votes at any point in the round, he can then choose to use his power, regardless of whether votes have been retracted or not.

    August 1, 2014
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    The Bandit

    And I think killing someone is just a massive mistake, especially a shot in the dark like FAW.

    August 1, 2014
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    The Bandit

    And (last post I promise) if I were to kill someone, it would probably be Speed or Hindy. Neither one has contributed ANYTHING even REMOTELY helpful to the Town, so even if it would be a mislynch it's not like you would be hurting the Town. Random votes are super wacky (XD) but they aren't doing anyone any favors. Not even the Mafia if they are the Mafia.

    That's especially true for Speed. I'm used to Hidenburg acting like this, but he's somehow turned from someone who actually contributed and tried to play the game to someone who just makes lame jokes and does nothing useful. I think he used the excuse that he was busy last game, or that he didn't have as much interest, but he's had enough time and interest this game to hang around and add a vote to someone everytime someone else has cast a vote.

    August 1, 2014
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    The Bandit

    I lied.

    I just realized that if you do think I'm mafia, then it makes 0 sense to change your vote from me. I won't get executioner killed if I were mafia, so there's no way for the Town to somehow eliminate two mafia targets. If you think I'm mafia, then the best play is to keep your vote on me to insure that I'm lynched. Apollo's votes makes absolutely zero sense.

    August 1, 2014
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    The Bandit

    I just reread the last game with the Executioner and I don't know why I thought that it was an instakill. Whatever, disregard 65% of what I said then since half of it relied on the idea that an Executioner kill was an instakill.

    IDK what my vote has to do with it though since I wasn't going to vote for you anyways.

    August 1, 2014
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    Apollo Justice

    OK, yeah, I missed the "but I still find it unlikely." MY BAD IM SORRY

    everything else still stands though i think

    August 1, 2014
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    The Bandit

    get le epicly troled lelz xDDD

    August 1, 2014
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    Speed Bike Pro
     

    ROFL teh epic pwnz0rz. much doge. wow. so horny. love you FUCK time. AHHAHAHA. DO A BARREL ROLL. herd u liek mudkp ????? piss balls clumping up on my scrotal sack

    August 1, 2014
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    Hindenburg
    Life's path is never straight.

    ha ha lol

    August 1, 2014
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    The Bandit

    Sorry for my inactivity--it's been an absolutely ridiculous (in a busy, but very fun way) week, and I'm exhausted. I'll probably get on here for some actual thoughts tomorrow, but for now I'll say that I don't think killing this round is the right call...although I probably would have advocated killing last round. I pointed out the math last round that said we could afford a mislynch then, but with the ratio almost certainly effectively 9-7 (assuming MM9 was the Fool and taking the Ballot Forger into account), a mislynch today is almost certainly fatal. I'd rather let the Mafia take a shot tonight just to increase our odds of hitting one of them. Although...if the Cop is alive and has any useful info at all, it might be worth revealing today to make sure they don't die in the night.

    August 2, 2014
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    white lancer

    if we believe that executing The Bandit is now an option for the mafia (in other words, assuming that at least one of those voters is non-mafia and that none of them had their votes forged to someone else last night), I think we're better off putting the votes back on and lynching him instead of a No Kill, regardless of whether you think he's guilty.

    August 2, 2014
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    Pirate_Ninja

    Omg I'm sorry I like really thought I had posted in here and then I looked back and I saw nothing (cry)

    Okay so I looked back at the last day round and stuff and besides the obvious fact that its kind of like ??? when it comes to Hindy and Speed, the person I'm personally most suspicious of is Lady Flare.

    It seems that her playing style keeps changing throughout the day rounds...

    On the first day, Ms. Flare put in a random vote because she "never lives past day 3". This, in itself isn't suspicious. She then later says that she "never piles on the votes unless she's sure that the person is Mafia (which was also on Day 1). She also mentions the Executioner + Ballot Forger combination. This is where things get interesting...

    Chief makes a comment about the Executioner this round. Ms. Flare instantly votes for him and is then confused about the role of executioner yet she seemed to understand it on day 1...

    Also this day round, she has constantly changed her votes on pretenses that may not necessarily be deemed suspicious. Now why would a person, who only places their votes on a person they truly believe is Mafia (and from my memory, she is a hesitant voter as well) do this?? It's dangerous and could definitely cost the Town that game if it begins a band wagon effect (which has happened slightly this round).

    And this comment from this day round just seems very off to me...

    Hey Speed, stop that. Incidently, you're joking around again so I probably won't vote for you.

    Lady Flare
    Posted Thursday
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    I, however, won't place my vote just yet...

    That's all I got in terms of like... theories.

    August 2, 2014
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    Female Alpha Wolf

    I don't read much into that post of Flare's that you quoted, FAW; it's seeming like Hindy and Speed are both trying to get the town thinking that they're the fool. If they're not actually the fool, they're just being complete dumbasses for no reason. If they are, then they're doing just about the worst thing they could be as far as winning the game goes. Either way, I've hated the fool role.

    I do agree with PN that it'd be good for us to take the power out of the mafia's hands by making sure we kill Bandit ourselves; if he's mafia, I highly doubt they'd execute him. And with the ratio probably being 9-6 right now, letting them keep one of their members another round might cost us the game due to the Ballot Forger forcing a vote tie. And of course, if it turns out he's town-sided, he was probably gonna get executed anyway.

    August 2, 2014
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    hezekiah

    Well to make it official then.

    August 2, 2014
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    EvilGuy0613

    SUCK A BIG FATTY

    August 2, 2014
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    Hindenburg
    Life's path is never straight.

    I'll read about this stuff later. I am going to go see a movie.

    August 2, 2014
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    Helius

    There is less than an hour left in the Round. Both hez and PN have advocated for lynching Bandit over letting the Executioner possibly kill him. Why didn't either of them vote for him? I agree that we need to only let 1 person die this Day Round.

    August 3, 2014
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    Lady Flare

    'cause I dream big and I hoped at least a handful of people would want to discuss such a thing...especially in the wake of people throwing votes around so quickly in a game with an Executioner. And I knew I'd be around in case it really mattered, so sure - let's commit and hope I know what I'm doing (hug)

    August 3, 2014
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    Pirate_Ninja

    As the town settled in for the night, a decision had been made, and The Bandit's time was over. Unfortunately, he was a Townie.

    Apollo Justice
    Hindenburg
    Black Yoshi
    Speed Bike Pro
    MajorasMask9 - ????
    Lady Flare
    EvilGuy0613
    Lightvayne
    Jo Nathan - ????
    white lancer
    chiefsonny
    The Bandit - Townie
    Pirate_Ninja
    hezekiah
    Count Dooku
    Chaos Incarnate
    Helius
    FAW

    Starting Ratio 11-6-1
    Known Ratio 10-6-1

    Townie x7, Cop, Governor, Fisherman
    Godfather x1, Executioner x1, Ballot Forger x1, Traitor x1, Mafioso x1, Janitor x1
    Fool

    24 hours or when all night actions have been submitted.

    August 3, 2014
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    `Roxas`

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