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night 4 goodnight godfather

Posted December 23, 2013 by Apollo Justice

The Chef and the Treestump rose, and Apollo ran to the window to look at all of the beautiful snow that had fallen the night before.

Wait.. Night 3...

.....

Suddenly, Apollo began freaking out. "WHITE LANCER, SHADOW, WE HAVE TO FIND WHITE LANCER, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE NOTHING HAPPENED"

But as Apollo opened the front door, a dismembered white lancer stood at her feet.

The town would say its last goodbye to its Distracted Doctor.

Shadowwalked brought a piece of green sidewalk chalk and scribbled something once he approached the square.

INNOCENT

Players:

1. Pirate_Ninja
2. Jo Nathan - Townie
3. Yeano
4. Speed Bike Pro - Hooker
5. `Roxas` - Townie
6. Helius - Guard
7. weid man
8. Castrael
9. MajorasMask9
10. white lancer - Distracted Doctor
11. Xhin - Townie
12. The Bandit
13. chiefsonny - Sleepwalker
14. Zanic
15. Hindenburg - Marksman
16. hezekiah
17. Bubba - Townie
18. Kyon - Sleepwalker
19. Lady Flare - Virgin

Ratio: 4-3-2

Roles:
Godfather, Interceptor, Mafioso
Public Investigator, Guard, Town Drunk, Sleepwalker
Journalist, Prosecutor

6 votes needed or 72 hours from beginning of Day to end the round.

There are 107 Replies


Welcome, white lancer!

December 23, 2013
Apollo Justice

It's over. I am sorry. I have failed you all.

December 23, 2013
Yeano

Well we know that PN is mafia. As such, Helius the Guard should definitely kill him ASAP, so we have the maximum amount of time to figure out our day's lynch.

It's clear to me that either Cas or Yeano is mafia. And nobody knows what the hell weid's been doing all game.

December 23, 2013
hezekiah

Yes, PN is confirmed Mafia at this point.

Also, I do have a confession. I am actually the Public Investigator. I claimed sleepwalker so that the mafia wouldn't target me earlier in the game.

During Night 1, I targeted Speed Bike Pro, and he was guilty. Seeing that Roxas said Speed was guilty, I didn't see the need to counter-claim. A guilty man would be killed anyway, and we could go after Roxas later if he really was guilty.

During Night 2, I targeted white lancer. I always think he's a power player, so I wanted to know where he stood. I got an innocent verdict, so risking that he could potentially be the Godfather, I contacted him. Since he was actually the Distracted Doctor, we created a ploy - he would pretend to be PI and claim that he checked hezekiah. This way, the mafia would target him instead of me and we could get another check. Why did we choose hezekiah? Well, he didn't seem all too suspicious at the time. Plus, it would really make sense for white lancer to have checked hezekiah had white lancer been the PI. I mean hezekiah is a good player and one of the sleepwalker claims. Plus, I had gotten an innocent verdict, so we needed to claim innocent.

During Night 3, I checked Castrael. I got an innocent verdict.

Now here's the dilemma. There are three people who claimed Sleepwalker. Castrael, me, and hezekiah. I am really the PI, so either Castrael or hezekiah is mafia. I find it unlikely that Castrael is the godfather, so that leads me to believe that hezekiah is mafia.

True, The Bandit said that hezekiah privately claimed Town Drunk, but we know now that The Bandit cannot be trusted (see last day round). Plus, hezekiah never confirmed nor denied this. He just kinda let all of this be confusing. My guess is that he was waiting to see which role was more advantageous to claim, so he didn't make a definite claim one way or the other, even when pressed about it.

The fact that he so quickly jumped in to be the first reply saying that PN is guilty isn't surprising. Everyone knows PN is guilty at this point, and it may be a slight psychological advantage to be the first to throw him under the bus.

tl;dr I think hezekiah is mafia.

December 23, 2013
Yeano

Aaaaa, Hezy. You took me by surprise. But, yeah, PN is the next Mafia on the list.

So guard, if you will, plz shoot PN.

We still have Zanic and weid.

Unless I forgot what Zanic claimed.

December 23, 2013
Castrael

Well, that answers that. How you doing, Interceptor?

December 23, 2013
hezekiah

Cas, Yeano: even if you think I'm the mafia (by the way, I can and will prove I'm not), it's a TERRIBLE idea to start piling on votes before Helius takes out PN. At this point it only takes 4 more votes to end the round.

December 23, 2013
hezekiah

It's finally almost time to remind them of the hash I posted way back in Day 2. Hurry up, Helius!

December 23, 2013
hezekiah

Too bad for Yeano that he was drunk off his ass last night and couldn't even walk straight, much less send the Treestump some lime chalk.

December 23, 2013
hezekiah

Agreed, Hez. I'll change it for now :)

December 23, 2013
Castrael

Wait, hez, you think Yeano is Mafia?

December 23, 2013
Castrael

In due time, Cas. The tl;dr is an emphatic yes.

December 23, 2013
hezekiah

(I just want to avoid confusion by splitting our attention between Yeano and PN; once Helius shoots PN I'll have a good amount to share)

December 23, 2013
hezekiah

Nothing like putting pressure on the Guard!.

December 23, 2013
Helius

So if the Journalist and/or the Prosecutor pledge their support for the Mafia is the game over?

Also can I suggest that members get a Pity point because of the way we've played.(shocked)

December 23, 2013
chiefsonny
 

There are a few things like it.

December 23, 2013
hezekiah

Helius, worried about pressure being put on the guard{fp}

The only chance the town has is a good kill by him before the lynch and then a good lynch by the town.

This games making my hair hurt.

December 23, 2013
chiefsonny
 

Actually, I'm kind of wondering why you're withholding information hezy.

If you're truly a townie, you'd want the information known as you know that I am a confirmed Town Power Role.

December 23, 2013
Helius

Hezekiah's the Drunk, Yeano is Mafia, and the last one is either Cas or weid. If the Town plays this correctly they'll be able to bring it down to the last one...assuming the third party roles don't side with the Mafia today.

I really wish hezy hadn't false claimed Sleepwalker. That move cost us chief and probably JN (because Helius probably would have shot PN had there not been an extra Sleepwalker claim).

More comments to come when I get off work.

December 23, 2013
white lancer

Hezy, I think it would be best to share them now. Cuz, once the guard makes his move, game over if it's the wrong player. I think. Sooooooo...

please share. This would help the guard a lot. :) It's too late, I'm already curious.

December 23, 2013
Castrael

I said this yesterday but I really, really, really do not trust hezekiah in the slightest. He has been shady as heck since last round (much like The Bandit AND LOOK NOW WE HAVE AN INNOCENT LYNCHED) something is just clearly wrong with this picture. The fact that Yeano claimed PI and that he checked white lancer Night 2 (the Doctor) makes me think that he privately claimed to lancer and they communicated OOG to keep the PI's role safe. It all adds up and makes sense unlike what hezekiah has done.

December 23, 2013
MajorasMask9

Let me just get some popcorn for this...

I don't think I've ever seen you under-the-gun in Mafia for a lynching, so I'm excited to see where this goes.



December 23, 2013
Apollo Justice

did u sleep with speed bike pro because u smell like butt

December 23, 2013
Apollo Justice

My coworker has one of those things...


December 23, 2013
hezekiah

Wait, so there are people who don't believe that PN is mafia? My information is about Yeano, about Pirate. Aside from both being mafia, I do not see what the link between the two is.

But, since people are not exactly following along, I'll type some stuff up to post in a bit.

December 23, 2013
hezekiah

Oh lawdy giant .jpg

December 23, 2013
hezekiah

I'm not saying I don't believe PN is mafia. I just want to cut this "hezekiah sidestepping questions" BS that has been going on since last round. Have you even acknowledged that you claimed Drunk? To me it sounds like you just want to endorse the lynch of a teammate to make yourself look innocent. But to me you're the shadiest person here right now because you've left us with a lot of unanswered questions.

December 23, 2013
MajorasMask9

Psst... you don't care... you already won...

December 23, 2013
hezekiah

hezekiah pls... I fight for JUSTICE!



December 23, 2013
MajorasMask9

The Chef will live forever.


December 23, 2013
hezekiah

... Are you... playing Mafia... while at work, Mr. hezekiah..?

December 23, 2013
Apollo Justice



December 23, 2013
Apollo Justice

Testing out the formatting of my giant post...

Me being able to wait until we see his role would've simplified this post some, since I wouldn't have to allow for as many possibilities in what I'm saying.

---

ed36 3355 6de1 b9b2 b836 53bb 5c22 eae1

-hezekiah, day 2


Remember back when I posted that? Did anybody wonder what that was supposed to be? Didn't seem like it, since nobody made any comments about it in the main thread.

That's an md5 hash I generated of some secret text to act as proof that I wasn't deciding to change my story later on. The string that I hashed was "im_actually_the_drunk", which you can verify by inputting md5(im_actually_the_drunk) into WolframAlpha: http://goo.gl/wq1NPl redirects to that page. There are a few players who have seen me use this same sort of strategy, which is very similar to sending yourself a letter to prove you had some idea at a given time.

I am the Town Drunk, like I had told Bandit privately. I also had suggested that he pass along to me the name of who the PI was going to check each night, such that I could also target that person and guarantee a reveal of the Interceptor if they made a lucky guess. Alternatively, I mentioned that I could have targeted Bandit himself to prove my identity as Town Drunk (well, technically either Town Drunk or Hooker). I didn't hear anything back as far as who to target (indications were that Bandit never heard from the PI), so I was on my own.

I claimed Sleepwalker instead of Drunk because, quite frankly, I didn't want to make myself such an immediate target for the mafia. At the time, there were no confirmed innocent town players. I have no way of knowing if the mafia would've bothered to kill me off, but it certainly would have put me more on their radar. Lumping myself in with the Sleepwalker claims meant that they'd either leave me alone or have a 1/4 shot of finding me.

Night 1 I targeted PN, who we now know to be mafia. There wasn't very much information gleaned from this, since the only active mafia night role was the Interceptor. I was, however, able to rule out PN being the Public Investigator (since a verdict was returned at the start of Day 2).

Night 2 I targeted Kyon. This pathetically inactive guy turned out to be a Sleepwalker, so I guess I theoretically may have saved his life that night, had he had an unlucky sleepwalk.

Night 3 is when it gets good. I felt that the obvious person for me to target would have been PN, which is precisely why I didn't target him; the mafia pulling off both Mafia and Interceptor kills would have ended the game (3-3-2), and I suspected that PN was the Godfather (since he is undetectable when moving at night and shows as Innocent to the PI and Journalist), making him the most believable Townie claim.

I still knew thanks to Kyon's death (seriously? Post once in a while or don't sign up in the first place. C'mon now.) that either Castrael or Yeano was lying about their role. Castrael had been significantly more active in the game and was one of the first on-board with the role claim proposal, so I felt she was the true Sleepwalker. I therefore put in my decision to take Yeano out for a night on the town. Sometime overnight, I got a message from the dearly departed white lancer pleading for me to target Yeano tonight. This is fun for 2 reasons:
1) He shared my suspicions of Yeano
2) He believed me to be the Town Drunk
So I took Yeano out drinking, and eventually we staggered back home to sleep it off. There were some words scrawled on his forehead from pranksters with a sharpie after he passed out, but nothing resembling Guilty or Innocent. Know what that means? He's not the PI.

Now, care to take a look at Yeano's (only) post this round?

Also, I do have a confession. I am actually the Public Investigator. I claimed sleepwalker so that the mafia wouldn't target me earlier in the game.

  • So Yeano's the PI, Cas is the Sleepwalker, and I'm the mafia. Then who's the Town Drunk?
  • Day 2, you practically begged the PI to reveal himself in the main thread
  • Day 3, you barely parcipate, with your only post being a procedural question about how the Journalist gets points

    During Night 2, I targeted white lancer. I always think he's a power player, so I wanted to know where he stood. I got an innocent verdict, so risking that he could potentially be the Godfather, I contacted him.
    During Night 3, I checked Castrael. I got an innocent verdict.
    I find it unlikely that Castrael is the godfather

    But you didn't contact Castrael? How is that fair?

    The fact that he so quickly jumped in to be the first reply saying that PN is guilty isn't surprising. Everyone knows PN is guilty at this point, and it may be a slight psychological advantage to be the first to throw him under the bus.

    Me being the first to reply to the main thread is suspicious? I did the same thing during Day 2, suggesting that the PI reveal privately to Bandit. Further, in Day 3, my first post was proposing that the Guard be cautious about his day's target. For all I knew (>Kyon), all 3 of chief, Yeano and Cas were being truthful about being Sleepwalkers. As such, I definitely did not want the Guard to take what I saw as a 4/4 shot at hitting a town player. Sadly, Helius was unconvinced.


    You could argue that I could turn sides and go with the mafia if the mafia:town ratio gets closer, but I don't think the game will last that long, and hey, if it does, you could still guard kill me then :)...

    -MajorasMask9, Day 3

    And now here he is coming after me...

  • December 23, 2013
    hezekiah

    Me being able to wait until we see his role would've simplified this post some, since I wouldn't have to allow for as many possibilities in what I'm saying.

    ---

    ed36 3355 6de1 b9b2 b836 53bb 5c22 eae1

    -hezekiah, day 2


    Remember back when I posted that? Did anybody wonder what that was supposed to be? Didn't seem like it, since nobody made any comments about it in the main thread.

    That's an md5 hash I generated of some secret text to act as proof that I wasn't deciding to change my story later on. The string that I hashed was "im_actually_the_drunk", which you can verify by inputting md5(im_actually_the_drunk) into WolframAlpha: http://goo.gl/wq1NPl redirects to that page. There are a few players who have seen me use this same sort of strategy, which is very similar to sending yourself a letter to prove you had some idea at a given time.

    I am the Town Drunk, like I had told Bandit privately. I also had suggested that he pass along to me the name of who the PI was going to check each night, such that I could also target that person and guarantee a reveal of the Interceptor if they made a lucky guess. Alternatively, I mentioned that I could have targeted Bandit himself to prove my identity as Town Drunk (well, technically either Town Drunk or Hooker). I didn't hear anything back as far as who to target (indications were that Bandit never heard from the PI), so I was on my own.

    I claimed Sleepwalker instead of Drunk because, quite frankly, I didn't want to make myself such an immediate target for the mafia. At the time, there were no confirmed innocent town players. I have no way of knowing if the mafia would've bothered to kill me off, but it certainly would have put me more on their radar. Lumping myself in with the Sleepwalker claims meant that they'd either leave me alone or have a 1/4 shot of finding me.

    Night 1 I targeted PN, who we now know to be mafia. There wasn't very much information gleaned from this, since the only active mafia night role was the Interceptor. I was, however, able to rule out PN being the Public Investigator (since a verdict was returned at the start of Day 2).

    Night 2 I targeted Kyon. This pathetically inactive guy turned out to be a Sleepwalker, so I guess I theoretically may have saved his life that night, had he had an unlucky sleepwalk.

    Night 3 is when it gets good. I felt that the obvious person for me to target would have been PN, which is precisely why I didn't target him; the mafia pulling off both Mafia and Interceptor kills would have ended the game (3-3-2), and I suspected that PN was the Godfather (since he is undetectable when moving at night and shows as Innocent to the PI and Journalist), making him the most believable Townie claim.

    I still knew thanks to Kyon's death (seriously? Post once in a while or don't sign up in the first place. C'mon now.) that either Castrael or Yeano was lying about their role. Castrael had been significantly more active in the game and was one of the first on-board with the role claim proposal, so I felt she was the true Sleepwalker. I therefore put in my decision to take Yeano out for a night on the town. Sometime overnight, I got a message from the dearly departed white lancer pleading for me to target Yeano tonight. This is fun for 2 reasons:
    1) He shared my suspicions of Yeano
    2) He believed me to be the Town Drunk
    So I took Yeano out drinking, and eventually we staggered back home to sleep it off. There were some words scrawled on his forehead from pranksters with a sharpie after he passed out, but nothing resembling Guilty or Innocent. Know what that means? He's not the PI.

    Now, care to take a look at Yeano's (only) post this round?

    Also, I do have a confession. I am actually the Public Investigator. I claimed sleepwalker so that the mafia wouldn't target me earlier in the game.

  • So Yeano's the PI, Cas is the Sleepwalker, and I'm the mafia. Then who's the Town Drunk?
  • Day 2, you practically begged the PI to reveal himself in the main thread. Why do all that if it's you?
  • Day 3, you barely participate, with your only post being a procedural question about how the Journalist gets points.

    During Night 2, I targeted white lancer. I always think he's a power player, so I wanted to know where he stood. I got an innocent verdict, so risking that he could potentially be the Godfather, I contacted him.
    During Night 3, I checked Castrael. I got an innocent verdict.
    I find it unlikely that Castrael is the godfather

    You contacted white lancer, but not Castrael? How is that fair?

    The fact that he so quickly jumped in to be the first reply saying that PN is guilty isn't surprising. Everyone knows PN is guilty at this point, and it may be a slight psychological advantage to be the first to throw him under the bus.

    Me being the first to reply to the main thread is suspicious? I did the same thing during Day 2, suggesting that the PI reveal privately to Bandit. Further, in Day 3, my first post was proposing that the Guard be cautious about his day's target. For all I knew (>Kyon), all 3 of chief, Yeano and Cas were being truthful about being Sleepwalkers. As such, I definitely did not want the Guard to take what I saw as a 4/4 shot at hitting a town player. Sadly, Helius was unconvinced.


    You could argue that I could turn sides and go with the mafia if the mafia:town ratio gets closer, but I don't think the game will last that long, and hey, if it does, you could still guard kill me then :)...

    -MajorasMask9, Day 3

    And now here he is coming after me...


    TL;DR
  • I hashed "im_actually_the_drunk" back on Day 2, showing it wasn't just a recent decision to claim Drunk.
  • I targeted Yeano last night, so he must be lying about being the Public Investigator
  • white lancer IMed me overnight believing my claim of Drunk and asking me to target Yeano
  • Nobody else has claimed Drunk

  • December 23, 2013
    hezekiah

    I am actually the Public Investigator and Yeano is a liar. I claimed DD and Lancer claimed PI so that he could buy me some time to get another cop check. I now am sure that the remaining three mafia are Yeano, Castrael, and PN. I checked SBP the first night, and I checked Hez the second night. Hez came up innocent. I checked Castrael last night and got innocent, so I'm assuming shes the godfather. We need to lynch one of the three. I say Yeano first.

    December 23, 2013
    Zanic

    Hezy's telling the truth about me contacting him (though I wasn't confident he was the Drunk--I was hedging my bets last night in an attempt to give us the best chance at avoiding a double kill. I'll explain my plan later). Yeano, however, is lying about us being in contact. I was actually covering for Zanic, and Helius knew about it.

    December 23, 2013
    white lancer

    Oh, and Castrael is the Innocent verdict. If P_N turns out to be the Godfather, then weid is definitely the last Mafia. Yeano's the Interceptor.

    December 23, 2013
    white lancer

    I now am sure that the remaining three mafia are Yeano, Castrael, and PN.

    Then who's the Sleepwalker?

    Also, please don't vote yet; we want to make sure Helius gets his Guard kill in (on PN, if it were my call) before we end the round.

    December 23, 2013
    hezekiah

    The reason I did not notify Bandit is because First off, I had no clue how to work the notification system. And even if I did, I did not trust Bandit. We see now that it's good that I didn't. It's sad that we don't have time to lynch Bandit for his treachery, but that's beside the point. I urge the guard to go through with killing PN, but please town. We can win this if we just lynch Yeano because Cas must be the godfather meaning she has no powers in the night round.

    I communicated with my brother yesterday and found out that he was the DD. We tried to get in contact with weid to town drunk Cas while I checked her so that the interceptor couldn't get me. Either we got through to weid or the interceptor didn't check cas. Regardless, we need to lynch Yeano if the town is going to win. I want to rub it in Bandit's face more than anyone that the mafia was the wrong side to go along with.

    December 23, 2013
    Zanic

    If hez is the town drunk, than I'm positive that weid is the last remaining sleepwalker.

    December 23, 2013
    Zanic

    I really hope that one of Yeano and PN is the Godfather so that you can check either Cas or weid.

    December 23, 2013
    hezekiah

    That is just another reason why I would like to kill Yeano before Cas so that I can make sure because I was fairly certain that weid was the drunk until I saw your claim. If we have the guard off PN, we can lynch Yeano and then have more time to think over lynching Cas or weid. I'm pretty sure that the godfather is Cas though based on the way Yeano is defending her.

    December 23, 2013
    Zanic

    I'm consciously not mentioning that I can figure out who the mafia is based on if I'm able to prevent any kills by taking the right one out drinking.

    December 23, 2013
    hezekiah

    Sorry for doubting you, lancer. With all the walls closing in, it was easy to trick myself into thinking my death was part of your agenda.

    December 23, 2013
    Jo Nathan

    I would like to publish my article:

    We should lynch/guard kill PN today. Also Yeano is guilty. He sent me a message asking me to implicate hezekiah. So lets kill him too. Oh. And sorry about that Jo Nathan thing lol XD

    December 23, 2013
    The Bandit

    Hi. Article coming shortly.

    December 23, 2013
    The Bandit

    Hmmm...

    I was thinking that weid might be the third mafia member, but it looks like it's actually Zanic!

    At a time like this, surely the Mafia would be willing to play all their cards. They are so, so close to a victory. If they can lynch me (the PI), then they have won.

    hezekiah is a seasoned player. While I admit that his "ed36 3355 6de1 b9b2 b836 53bb 5c22 eae1" message is a little bit convincing, I'm not quite sure I am sold on it. He has the most points out of anyone! I'm sure he could prepare something like this, just in case.

    Night 1 I targeted PN, who we now know to be mafia. There wasn't very much information gleaned from this, since the only active mafia night role was the Interceptor. I was, however, able to rule out PN being the Public Investigator (since a verdict was returned at the start of Day 2).


    Why do you think that the only active mafia member was the Interceptor? If I recall correctly, Night 1 was after the virgin died. As such, there were no kills during the night. However, Speedy Bike Pro, the Hooker, was likely active. And for that matter, wouldn't the Interceptor kill count as a... well... kill? Hmmm... Well, that's one fact that's pretty off if you ask me.

    Sometime overnight, I got a message from the dearly departed white lancer pleading for me to target Yeano tonight.


    Oh, this is where things get very interesting.

    Let's hear what Zanic has to say about this:

    I communicated with my brother yesterday and found out that he was the DD. We tried to get in contact with weid to town drunk Cas while I checked her so that the interceptor couldn't get me. Either we got through to weid or the interceptor didn't check cas.


    Oops! Looks like your stories aren't quite matching up. This is what happens when you throw together a defense at the last second.

    So I am to believe that white lancer thought that hezekiah AND weid were BOTH the Town Drunk? Ummm... What? Get your story together, guys.

    So Yeano's the PI, Cas is the Sleepwalker, and I'm the mafia. Then who's the Town Drunk?


    By process of elimination, probably weid man.

    Day 2, you practically begged the PI to reveal himself in the main thread. Why do all that if it's you?


    Why claim a billion different roles in the same game and avoid every question about it? My answer to your question is likely the same as your answer to my question.

    Day 3, you barely participate, with your only post being a procedural question about how the Journalist gets points.


    Yep. Keeping off the radar. You see, the mafia is far more likely to believe you're a useless role (like Sleepwalker) if you don't actually seem interested in the game.

    You contacted white lancer, but not Castrael? How is that fair?


    You're concerned that I do the same thing to everyone? Why should I contact Castrael? Day 4 is far different from Day 3. In Day 3, I still wanted to avoid revealing my identity, but now that I've pretty much got the Mafia figured out (and we're in a very precarious situation), there's no reason to hide my identity. Please, hezekiah. Try to make your attacks more logical. This isn't even fun.

    Me being the first to reply to the main thread is suspicious? I did the same thing during Day 2, suggesting that the PI reveal privately to Bandit.


    I'm not saying that replying first is suspicious. Again, my claim that your first reply throwing PN under the bus is suspicious was not because you replied first entirely - but because it's the obvious thing to do. Why do you keep trying to twist my words and conflate unrelated things like throwing someone under the bus and suggesting that someone privately claim to a (supposedly) benevolent third-party?

    Your arguments mainly seem like a last-minute self-defense to me...

    December 23, 2013
    Yeano

    It's a real shame you've chosen to side with the Mafia, The Bandit.

    Oh well.

    December 23, 2013
    Yeano

    Suddenly, the Treestump throws a bunch of papers out the window of the Chef's and his cozy village house. It seems there's a new report from the Journalist!

    We should lynch/guard kill PN today. Also Yeano is guilty. He sent me a message asking me to implicate hezekiah. So lets kill him too. Oh. And sorry about that Jo Nathan thing lol XD


    -Dookville Journalist.

    December 23, 2013
    Shadowwalked

    There's not much to say in response to this.

    The Bandit has shown he's willing to make stuff up to get points. He even admitted it just now.

    December 23, 2013
    Yeano

    Convenient that you waited until now to 1) claim PI and 2) participate.

    In order for me to have arranged my fake Drunk claim that far back, I would have needed to trust that I wouldn't get anybody else claiming Drunk before it was too late to matter. Seems like quite a risky play for me.

    So I am to believe that white lancer thought that hezekiah AND weid were BOTH the Town Drunk? Ummm... What? Get your story together, guys.


    I don't know if lancer told Zanic what he was messaging me, but I'm sure he didn't tell you.

    Another question for you, Yeano: if you really are the PI (you're not), why didn't you attack Roxas' PI claim during Day 2?

    December 23, 2013
    hezekiah

    False alarm on working tonight... etc etc etc.

    I'm here now.

    So, you guys think I'm Mafia? Please show me what makes me you think I'm Mafia.

    Yes, I am known to change my votes periodically. Why? Because we're being manipulated by Mafia. And, I honestly can admit that. I'm not the best of the bunch.

    As for weid, I think he's the Mafiaso and Yeano and PN are telling him how to play, etc. I was wrong about Kyon. But, he hardly plays at all. I agree with Yeano's the Godfather and PN is the Interceptor. Or, it's the other way around. I can't tell.

    December 23, 2013
    Castrael

    In order for me to have arranged my fake Drunk claim that far back, I would have needed to trust that I wouldn't get anybody else claiming Drunk before it was too late to matter. Seems like quite a risky play for me.


    Or you could have just... you know... not ever brought up your coded message. Seems like there's no risk at all to me.

    if you really are the PI (you're not), why didn't you attack Roxas' PI claim during Day 2?


    Seeing that Roxas said Speed was guilty, I didn't see the need to counter-claim. A guilty man would be killed anyway, and we could go after Roxas later if he really was guilty.


    December 23, 2013
    Yeano

    If I were mafia, why would I throw myself out there like that. It's not like I had any reason to, being one of the under the radar people this game. My name really hadn't been out there much until I, yes me not Yeano, claimed power role in the previous day round while Yeano sat by and said nothing about it. Lancer and I having been talking OOG when we found out each other were power roles.

    Plus not to mention the fact that Lancer said it himself that he checked Hez and found him innocent in the last day round. Funny how he ended up actually being the doctor and I happened to check hez on night 2 and I previously stated that I did. You said you checked Lancer. You're starting to make less sense.

    Yes. The mafia would be willing to play all of their cards now. Isn't that what you're doing by claiming PI?

    As for the town drunk, Lancer told me he thought it was weid and he was trying to get in contact with him. He probably contacted hez knowing his innocence because I told him that I got an innocent check from him. He figured out that hez was the drunk and here we stand now.

    December 24, 2013
    Zanic

    Or you could have just... you know... not ever brought up your coded message. Seems like there's no risk at all to me.


    Which still could have caused problems had anybody questioned why I posted the string of nonsense.


    Seems like you're really concerned about making me seem guilty, and not about making yourself look innocent. Makes sense, all you need to do is have today's kills be a 1:1 trade and you'll win it overnight. But fact is that both Zanic and I know you're lying about being mafia, and you only started attacking Zanic after he came at you. It's much more likely to me that the two brothers (Zanic and lancer) would discuss their roles than would lancer and Yeano. Plus, this:
    we know now that The Bandit cannot be trusted (see last day round)

    It wasn't some magical revelation at the end of the round when we saw Jo's role that he was in business for him self. In fact, remember who brought it up in the first place? I'll save you the research: me.

    ---

    Helius, anytime you want to kill PN is fine by me...

    December 24, 2013
    hezekiah

    Weird, the formatting of my last post is funky. First was the quote about my coded message, followed by my paragraph starting "Which still...". Then was the quote about Bandit, followed by "It wasn't some...". After that was my long paragraph beginning "Seems like you're...", then the separator and finally the mention of Helius killing Pirate_Ninja.

    December 24, 2013
    hezekiah

    Heh, well, we've both got eggs on our face after that one. You really threw me off with that continued call for the Guard to kill you, as I really didn't see how that would benefit the Town in any way (at least, not more than having the Guard kill P_N would benefit us...), so between that and you suddenly seeming so sure I was out to get you, I became almost certain you were Mafia. My general plan all along for that round was to wait for a counterclaim and probably try to convince the Guard to kill the counterclaimer first, but I didn't want to say that out loud because it might scare off any prospective counterclaimers (whether they were Mafia or Town). Work got busy and I missed the time period in between P_N counterclaiming and Helius pulling the trigger on chief, but I would have tried a little harder to be online for the counterclaim had I not thought you were so likely to be Mafia. Just misread you completely, I guess. :-/

    Anyway, once both Jo and Kyon turned out to be innocent, I went into desperation/panic mode and worked up a plan based on three assumptions, as follows:

    1. Zanic really was the Public Investigator - I couldn't be completely sure of this, but I had to trust somebody at this point and there really were no other plausible options. Weid was too inactive and I was really hoping our PI didn't claim Sleepwalker. It was a small risk, but I felt it was most likely to be true.

    2. One of weid man and hezekiah was the Town Drunk. - I was about 99% sure it was between these two, but it was hard to be sure about hezy just because I didn't know how much I could trust what Bandit said. Weid man was just process of elimination.

    3. One of Castrael and Yeano was the Interceptor. - We knew P_N was Mafia, but with the Interceptor so crucial to the Mafia's success in this game, there was no way he'd risk himself like that. Had we followed the most logical plan, we would have Guardkilled the Townie counterclaim and that would have been it (side note: I wonder if P_N would have felt the risk was worth it had he not known that Town-sided Kyon was likely to be Host-killed). It could have been weid man for sure, but I figured the Interceptor was likely to want to get under cover early...also, I wasn't sure how much of a threat weid would have been as the Interceptor anyway.

    Taking those three things into consideration, the best thing I could do was to try to make sure the Interceptor kill didn't go through. The Interceptor would most likely be watching one of their own to try to catch the PI (though there was also a decent chance they'd watch Helius or Zanic), but the PI's move would be wasted if they didn't check anyone and the Interceptor might strike a Sleepwalker/myself anyway, so I tried to arrange to have both the Drunk and the PI hit the same person (I was leaning towards Yeano, but Zanic wanted to check Cas). Problem was, I couldn't be sure who was the Drunk, and if I guessed wrong and the player I chose was Mafia, they'd give the whole thing away.

    The other (bigger) problem was that I couldn't get ahold of either hezy or weid, despite messaging them both that morning. Had I had a chance actually to talk to hezy, I may have been more convinced of his role as the Drunk, but as it was all I could do was send them messages and hope they got them. I told weid to cover Cas and hezy to cover Yeano, and Zanic checked Castrael. That way, even if weid happened to be Mafia and fed the information to them, there would be about a 50% shot that hezy was blocking the Interceptor (or possibly the Godfather, which would have prevented the normal Mafia kill). In post-panic mode, I'm realizing I could have accomplished much the same thing had I asked all three of them to hit the same target...but only if I had managed to get ahold of both weid and hezy.

    I chose to tell weid to go to the same place as Zanic only because I figured weid would be able to do less damage to our strategy if he happened to be Mafia, and because I figured hezy would be more likely to see my message anyway. Meanwhile, I covered Helius because I figured we had very little chance at winning without the Guard (I had saved myself the night prior). I don't think hezy got my message in time to hit Yeano, but he had clearly come to the same conclusions I had, so there you go. The Drunk, in this situation, was much more useful than the Doctor, because the Mafia are largely revealed and he can prevent them from Nightkilling just as easily, whereas I had more possible targets to choose from (and pretty much felt locked in to protecting Helius). If the Town plays this right (and I left Helius and Zanic with enough information to do so), P_N and Yeano should go down, and hezy will wind up with a 50% chance to stop another Nightkill and discover the last Mafia.

    December 24, 2013
    white lancer

    Also, as panic-inducing as it was at the end of the last day round, it's pretty fun to see third-party roles actually acting like third-party roles. Though lynching Roxas never should have happened... -_-"

    December 24, 2013
    white lancer

    By the way, I watched hezekiah last night. I didn't put this in my report because I was rushing. I saw him leave his room, so if he's mafia he specifically has to be the Interceptor or the mafia had to vote without Godfather first.

    December 24, 2013
    The Bandit

    zzz

    December 24, 2013
    hezekiah

    Though lynching Roxas never should have happened...

    Yeah, you lot of jackasses. {>:(}

    December 24, 2013
    `Roxas`

    Helius received coded messages from the Doctor as well the previous night and was informed that he was in contact with the PI, Zanic. Helius was slightly confused when Yeano claimed PI, but this makes sense if he is mafia. Either way, Helius had to make a hard choice... would he lead the town to victory or lead to the town to defeat? He put one round into the chamber as he screamed:

    "AND WITH THIS I BECOME YEANO!"

    And just like that, Yeano has to die.

    December 24, 2013
    Helius

    "I'll do exactly what you didn't ask me to do, and I'll do it better."

    Helius squared his gun on Yeano, beads of sweat falling from both of their heads.

    "D-Don't.."

    And he shot.

    Yeano, the Interceptor, fell.

    Players:

    1. Pirate_Ninja
    2. Jo Nathan - Townie
    3. Yeano - Interceptor
    4. Speed Bike Pro - Hooker
    5. `Roxas` - Townie
    6. Helius - Guard
    7. weid man
    8. Castrael
    9. MajorasMask9
    10. white lancer - Distracted Doctor
    11. Xhin - Townie
    12. The Bandit
    13. chiefsonny - Sleepwalker
    14. Zanic
    15. Hindenburg - Marksman
    16. hezekiah
    17. Bubba - Townie
    18. Kyon - Sleepwalker
    19. Lady Flare - Virgin

    Ratio: 4-2-2

    Roles:
    Godfather, Mafioso
    Public Investigator, Guard, Town Drunk, Sleepwalker
    Journalist, Prosecutor

    December 24, 2013
    Apollo Justice

    I'm not sure if the coin flip failed again or if Apollo just didn't matter...

    Not the move I'd have made in your shoes (had you been wrong, the game would be over right now), but I'm glad you picked the right side.

    As previously stated, I suspect that PN is the Godfather. That'd be preferable for us, because that means we'll have 3 roles (PI, Drunk, Journalist) capable of providing useful info. Naturally, we should be more skeptical of anything the Journalist tells us.

    Zanic: you should notify someone (I recommend myself) of who you're checking tonight. Since you're the PUBLIC Investigator, we'll still get the result even if the remaining mafia member kills you.

    December 24, 2013
    hezekiah

    To Apollo in regards to my vig role:



    December 24, 2013
    Helius

    100/10

    December 24, 2013
    Apollo Justice

    Well, the reason why Yeano was the choice was because our beloved Doctor, Lancer, also had contacted me the previous night and told me that Zanic was going to try and cover for him. Lancer also claimed Zanic was PI then we had Yeano this morning claiming it. I put more weight into Lancer's claim, but was going to put a notice in my thread that if I had failed and killed the wrong person... it was all Lancer's fault.

    But as far as Castrael's innocence, she's known that I was the Guard for at least two night rounds. If she were mafia, she would really want me dead as I am a huge boost to the town's power. I also had ruled out Yeano for Mafia in the previous rounds, but then we had the counter-claim problem this morning.

    So if we are correct in assumptions...

    Pirate Ninja - Mafia?
    hezekiah - Town Drunk?
    Castrael - Sleepwalker
    MajorasMask9 - Prosecutor
    weid man - Mafia?
    The Bandit - Journalist
    Zanic - PI
    Helius - Guard

    It's really down to you, hez... weid and Pirate.

    December 24, 2013
    Helius

    Yeah, you lot of jackasses.{>:(}

    Hey, a couple of us tried to prevent that!

    December 24, 2013
    white lancer

    The town isn't out of danger yet... if we mislynch for the day...

    3 - 2 - 2 for Day 4
    2 - 2 - 2 for Night 4 --- game over

    OR

    4 - 1 - 2 for Day 4
    3 - 1 - 2 for Night 4

    December 24, 2013
    Helius

    Right. It is still a mislynch-and-lose scenario for us today, but it's practically guaranteed that we won't mislynch; PN claimed a role that is no longer in the game, and hasn't bothered to show up and present any sort of alternate explanation yet.

    Since Yeano was the Interceptor, we could conceivably elect to not lynch anyone today; that would guarantee us a 3-2-2 (or 4-2-1, I guess) tomorrow.

    But why bother? Like I've said, I'm going off of the assumption that PN is the Godfather, meaning weid and Cas are the Sleepwalker and Mafioso in some combination. And the best part? We'd know for sure who's who:

    I can take one of them out for the night, rendering them unable to carry out their night action (either the benign sleepwalk, or the deadly kill).
    If I get the mafia, there will be no kill. Therefore we can GUARD KILL (I'll get back to this) the person I targeted and win the game.
    If I get the sleepwalker, there might be a kill.
  • If there's a kill, I know the person I picked was not the mafia and we can lynch or guardkill the other.
  • If there's not a kill, we can GUARD KILL the sleepwalker. This'd result in a 3-1-2 ratio and we could then lynch the other.

    And that's all I have to say for tonight.

  • December 24, 2013
    hezekiah

    I lied, there is a bit more to say. But I didn't want to plant the seed in the non-town's minds...

    In the worst case, the game could continue until Day 6. Tonight (Night 4) I target the Sleepwalker, mafia does not kill. Tomorrow (Day 5) Helius guardkills the Sleepwalker, then it's 3-1-2 and the mafia + 3rd-parties could tie the vote. Therefore we'd go to Night 5, where I'd simply take the mafia out for a deadly cocktail, finished off at dawn's first light by a chaser from Helius.

    So I guess after typing this out, I'm realizing it's not so important that I hide the 3rd-parties' options from them, since all it'd do is delay the inevitable (assuming Helius doesn't get hostkilled for some unforseen reason).

    December 24, 2013
    hezekiah

    Well, the reason why Yeano was the choice was because our beloved Doctor, Lancer, also had contacted me the previous night and told me that Zanic was going to try and cover for him. Lancer also claimed Zanic was PI then we had Yeano this morning claiming it. I put more weight into Lancer's claim, but was going to put a notice in my thread that if I had failed and killed the wrong person... it was all Lancer's fault.

    Heh...I'll take it! {:D}{:P}

    December 24, 2013
    white lancer

    I'll go ahead with my vote since I'll be working in a few won't be on til after.

    The reason why I think weid is Mafia is how Speed and Hidenburg voted him off. It has happened before and he also wasn't told by the team to counter claim. Pirate and than weid.

    December 24, 2013
    Castrael

    weid and Cas are the Sleepwalker - Hezy


    Hezy, trust me and Helius. I am the LAST sleepwalker

    December 24, 2013
    Castrael

    Welcome, Yeano!

    December 24, 2013
    Apollo Justice

    k

    December 24, 2013
    The Bandit

    four for one, and one for y'all



    December 24, 2013
    Pirate_Ninja

    It would be really hilarious if I could manage to get the Town to mislynch again tomorrow. But I'm not going to push my luck. Just going to pick whoever I think is the best of Cas and weid and go from there. If PN is the godfather, then I'll definitely lie and say I went into the dead person's room again.

    Or I may actually pick it? I feel like the best kill is Helius? I haven't looked at the ratio yet, but I'm pretty sure it's a guaranteed win if we kill cas and weid tomorrow and one of them is mafia. If PN isn't the godfather, then I'm pretty much useless. I guess I could lie and say I gained some info from the mafia when I gave up JN that led me to whoever I accuse.

    December 24, 2013
    The Bandit

    Glad you believed me. It was a good play by Yeano, but at this point in the game, he just had too much against him. Now we need to lynch the mafia that we know which is PN. I will notify you hez on who I'm checking. Since I checked Cas last night, it should be apparent though.

    December 24, 2013
    Zanic

    I guess I will be the one to seal the deal.

    December 24, 2013
    Helius



    December 24, 2013
    Pirate_Ninja

    Well this is still boring. We're at 4 votes, need 1 more to end the round.

    December 24, 2013
    hezekiah

    Yes, the ratio changed after the Guard shot. 1 more vote will be needed to end the round.

    December 24, 2013
    Apollo Justice

    PN, we used to be friends. Be a pal and end the round.

    December 24, 2013
    The Bandit

    Or Zanic, or weid (lol), or Majora.

    December 24, 2013
    hezekiah

    Forgot to vote.

    December 24, 2013
    Zanic

    Round over?

    December 24, 2013
    Helius

    I'll watch Helius tonight. Final answer.

    December 24, 2013
    The Bandit

    And with 5 votes, Pirate_Ninja would be hung...

    "Merry Christmas, buddy."

    hezekiah tied the rope tight around PN's neck and kicked the chair from under him.

    With the Godfather now hung, one Mafia member remained.

    Players:

    1. Pirate_Ninja - Godfather
    2. Jo Nathan - Townie
    3. Yeano - Interceptor
    4. Speed Bike Pro - Hooker
    5. `Roxas` - Townie
    6. Helius - Guard
    7. weid man
    8. Castrael
    9. MajorasMask9
    10. white lancer - Distracted Doctor
    11. Xhin - Townie
    12. The Bandit
    13. chiefsonny - Sleepwalker
    14. Zanic
    15. Hindenburg - Marksman
    16. hezekiah
    17. Bubba - Townie
    18. Kyon - Sleepwalker
    19. Lady Flare - Virgin

    Ratio: 4-1-2

    Roles:
    Mafioso
    Public Investigator, Guard, Town Drunk, Sleepwalker
    Journalist, Prosecutor

    24 hours or until all actions are in to end the round.

    December 24, 2013
    Apollo Justice

    You may now choose someone to drink with!

    December 24, 2013
    Apollo Justice

    Good evening, PI!

    You may now investigate someone.

    December 24, 2013
    Apollo Justice

    Was going to tell you that you could choose someone to watch tonight but I have my answer it seems {:P}

    December 24, 2013
    Apollo Justice

    Alright. Already know who it is, but just for good measure.

    Weid Man.

    December 24, 2013
    Zanic

    You may now choose someone to kill, weid man.

    December 24, 2013
    Apollo Justice

    ......... they call me buttman for a reason.........

    December 24, 2013
    MajorasMask9

    According to 1387494566 in Day 3, anybody who didn't make a game-pertinent post would be killed. Therefore, I have to ask why weid man was not hostkilled?

    December 24, 2013
    hezekiah

    That should be essentially game over. With the Godfather dead, the Innocent results are confirmed leaving only weid as a possible Mafia candidate, assuming the other players are all telling the truth about their roles (and really, only MM9 and Zanic are even possibly lying, but that's a huge longshot). Hezy will be able to prevent any Nightkills tonight and weid will die tomorrow, probably to Helius.

    It was really touch-and-go for a moment there, but it looks like the Town will pull through.

    December 24, 2013
    white lancer

    Because the round didn't last the full 72 hours; it only lasted approximately a day. I probably should have clarified it, but since it's usually the time limit that ends the rounds, I wasn't thinking of it.

    December 25, 2013
    Apollo Justice

    Welcome, PN..~

    December 25, 2013
    Apollo Justice

    weid man

    Apollo, you're welcome to join us, but you'll have to pay your own way. My wallet only goes so far.

    December 25, 2013
    hezekiah

    At this point, whoever weid chooses, if he is active, is who he doesn't want to get a survival point haha.

    December 25, 2013
    Zanic

    Alright if I'm the only one left I vote kill Hezekiha as originally planned by my group here.

    December 25, 2013
    weid man

    Helius doesn't go aaaaaaaanywhere. And no one visits him!

    December 25, 2013
    Apollo Justice

    Randomized Sleepwalker visit Night 4

    Castrael visits Zanic

    December 25, 2013
    Apollo Justice

    Sigh, not even a round on the house for Christmas... I understand... It's on me.

    You take weid man out, and he brings his stuffed penguin and his marijuana. He starts telling all of the other bargoers about how he jerks off to the 70s music playing, and you find yourself embarrassed to be with him. You slowly escape with Apollo Justice and Shadowwalked...

    ... nonetheless, weid doesn't get to do any night actions. Boo!

    December 25, 2013
    Apollo Justice

    {:P}

    weid man is Guilty.

    December 25, 2013
    Apollo Justice

    Target: hezekiah

    December 25, 2013
    Apollo Justice

    Reply to: night 4 goodnight godfather

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