-____- I knew that was a bad choice.

R.I.P. Hindy.

I understand why we killed the Bandit the way we did, but Bandit was a townie. I think we should at least look at those who made the lynch possible.

well, here are the six voters with what they had to say at the time:

EvilGuy was the first to vote, and while I personally didn't find The Bandit suspicious I can kinda see what he's getting at. Enough at least that I don't find it a suspicious vote so much as someone trying to be productive. Bandit usually does like to be aggressive early on, but he also tends to come up against a lot of resistance...and he's not averse to playing it slower when it seems more appropriate for the situation.


this seems odder to me - acknowledging the danger of a mislynch and then voting for someone with what seems like very little reason. There was plenty of time to express his opinion and see how it compares to others' thoughts. It could be legit, or it could be quietly building the vote count against someone while a bunch of flippant votes are flying about to cover your tracks a bit.


this is the strangest one yet to me - to mention that two people seem to be acting suspicious, but to then defer to the last poster's judgment and cast a third vote for someone else. It was still within the first 24 hours of the round, so it's not like there was a rush to beat a deadline with no chance for discussion. Why cast your lot in agreement with someone who didn't even really "justify" their choice?


one of many odd votes from Speed this game, but to be honest I don't find them that suspicious. They're...pretty deliberately outlandish, and to me they feel more likely the product of someone who just wants something to happen, who might be disinterested in the game.


sort of a passive agreement to take a risk, without any real backing to it. It's kind of openly bandwagony and I don't think it's as suspect as some of the others because of that.


rip in peace hindenbutt

(unless you were the Traitor and they messed up by killing you in which case lmbo owned)

Ugh, I really didn't think we should have killed yesterday, and I really think the Vig should have taken a shot last night because odds are good we don't have much of a chance this day round. I wouldn't be surprised at this point to find out that Jo Nathan was the Vigilante because last night seemed as good as any to take a guess. Our best chance is that the Mafia hit the Traitor in one of the previous night round and can't go for the win this day round, even with the Ballot Forger in play. We need to play this day round very carefully, but we also almost certainly need to vote someone off today (and have the Vig, if they're still alive, take a shot in the night round).

@lancer: We're not playing with a Vigilante this game...

If you go by the assumption that the Mafia would not kill one of their own and there have been 4 deaths and we only lynched one of our own (The Bandit) then there are 7 of us and 6 Mafia left.

So this game could be over this day round with a Executioner vote lock or two night with another Mafia kill.

I think next game we should have 2 Janitor's so the game can be twice a screwed up.

It looks like the Cop may not be helping us out here.

As far as we know, 4 townies could have been killed. That would leave us at 7. The mafia could of killed the fool and the traitor, so that would leave us at 9.

With the ballot forger the mafia's vote ratio is at least 6. Not to mention that the ballot forger will switch the vote of a townie rendering their vote meaningless, so it makes it worse.

Either way, we are in trouble. I'm not sure if we should lynch this round after what happened last round, but a shot in the dark may be better than nothing at all.

My opinion? Perhaps we should lynch EvilGuy if we should lynch. I mean, he was the one who started the votes against Bandit. If I understand correctly, the Mafia attempts to mislead others, trick them into bandwagoning votes. If he truly is Mafia at that given point in time, that was all the town, and perhaps some other Mafia would need to see.

Ugh, you're right, Yoshi. I don't know why I got the impression that we had a VIgilante in this game--I guess I haven't been focused enough. :-/ I did remember we had a Fisherman, and I hope they're paying attention if this day round goes poorly (and that they got the killing kit or whatever it's called). I'm thinking that the Cop may well be dead or inactive by this point, as there's little reason for them not to come out by now with our backs against the wall. The fact that the Mafia haven't yet started tossing votes at someone leads me to believe that either the Fisherman is alive or the Traitor isn't (or both), because if the opposite is true then there's no reason for the Mafia not to just go for the win here (they'd have 7 votes to our 6 with the Ballot Forger). I guess there's also a chance that one or more of the Mafia could simply be inactive, but there don't appear to be many who are THAT inactive this game.

We have to play like that's true, and that we still have a shot to win this game. That being said, we're in a ton of trouble, and we could easily walk right into the Ballot Forger's vote regardless. The one thing to keep in mind is that the Ballot Forger had to made their choice on which vote to switch last night, so if they were worried about being able to force through a lynch, they probably switched someone's vote onto a more likely Town member to be lynched. They can't change their choice on a whim during the day round to follow how the votes are going, so we do have that going for us at least. That might steer me away from voting for someone who would obviously have suspicion on them, like EvilGuy (though I admit to finding him suspicious myself), as long as there are other viable suspects. I think there are a number, and I will say I still find Lightvayne suspicious...although I'll need to re-read prior posts to get a better read, I think.

Here is my analysis. It’s making a few assumptions.

1. The Fool is dead. I think it only benefits the Mafia to assume otherwise.

2. The Mafia nightkilled the Traitor. There is less than 24 hours in this Round and no one is voting for anyone so the Mafia must not have the game in the bag yet.

Well, here goes:

Helius suspicious Last game he was keeping good tabs on the ratio. White lancer is trying to do it this game but Helius is steering clear of it. Maybe he doesn’t want to give anything away accidently? And he wants the Town to think the Fool may still be alive. I agree with Pirate_Ninja and Dooku that that reasoning benefits the Mafia more than the Town

Black Yoshi suspicious Ok, it’s a feeling and I’m too tired to put it into words. It just reminds me of the Game I was Mafia. Yoshi votes for the person who “sticks out” after saying something about being down 2 Townies.

FAW suspicious She has been fairly quiet. Last Round she pointed out that my behavior was suspicious. Granted, I wasn’t being serious at the beginning of last Day Round. Apollo voted for her last Round. Although she didn’t give much of a reason as to why except that FAW has been relatively inactive, Apollo has good instincts. (I just hope I’m right about Apollo being Town sided.

Lightvayne suspicious His reaction to being voted for was very similar to his reaction when I voted for him a few games back and he really was Mafia. Not much to go on, I know.

hezekiah suspicious


Apollo Justice Townie She doesn’t strike me as Mafia.

Speed Bike Pro Townie He hasn’t posted any of his long spiels lately but he really hasn’t for a long time. He was joking around a lot which he does when he’s a Townie.

Lady Flare Townie Sorry to ruin the surprise.

EvilGuy0613 Townie In past games when he has been Mafia he tended to be less active. This game he has been fairly active.

white lancer Townie I think he is genuinely trying to help the Town.

chiefsonny Townie In just about every one of his posts, he has complained about the Janitor. I think if he were Mafia he wouldn’t be so down about the role which really does give the Mafia the upper hand.

Pirate_Ninja Townie His reasoning seems sound. And he is being more vocal than usual. The last time I can remember him making long posts was when I was Mafia and he was Town sided.

Count Dooku Townie

Chaos Incarnate Townie I haven’t played Mafia with him before so I don’t have anything to go off of. He does vote for people which Mafia may be less inclined to do. And Bandit also thought his responses were Townie-ish if a little hysterical.

Disclaimer: These are subject to change without notice.

I'm holding off on my vote until we can decide who the Town is voting for.

Chaos Incarnate, I was the first one to vote Bandit yes but that was because I actually thought he might have been Mafia. (Now I see I was dead wrong.) I wouldn't necessarily say I started the votes against him though. The Bandit bandwagon didn't start till Black Yoshi pointed out his suspicion and voted for him. (You even have Lightvanye agreeing with him.)

I still don't understand why people think I'm mafia. The only reason I went along with BY's reasoning because I figured he would know more than I do. While I do find the other two suspisous, I figured I go with my chances with something a bit more positive.
My fellow townies, I assure you I only have the towns best interests in mind. Because of this, I elect Black Yoshi for a stoning at the end of this day round. Because a vote for him, is a vote for Justice!

You're starting to sound like Speed Bike Pro here...usually when he guns someone down it's because he's Town-sided and simply wants someone dead based on a strong gut feeling, but this just strikes me as odd.

*That is to say, when Speed guns someone down.

A. Janitor is in play.
B. Others are mentioning the ratio.
C. I've working.

wat?

My opponent here seems to be getting his facts mixed up (shifty)

I was talking about how when Speed guns people down it's because he's Town-sided, but gunning people down like that is completely out of character for you.

To be fair, I though I was acting pretty much in character. >_>

Black Yoshi has a point though. You are acting different since this round and the last round.

{fp}

Yes, I probably am, as I probably acted differently in the round before that. Just as you were acting differently in the previous game.

The thing is, if you take a look, I really don't have a "style" I stick with between mafia games depending on the role I may or may not have. I just kinda go with the flow.

also..
thought* <---correction in previous post

Wow! The enthusiasm around here is outstanding.

Well because the Town is pretty much screwed either way, I'm going to vote for Yoshi. Either he's Mafia and the game continues Orr he's a Townie and the game ends and no big loss (or so it would appear.) I gave my picks for Mafia and there hasn't been much reaction.

I'm not sure if killing someone is such a good idea anymore.. maybe we should wait for the cop. Either way i'm going to balance this out if I can.

Actually, if Roxas sticks to his 72 hour limit, your vote won't count. The round ended at 12:44 am.

Well I guess we'll see what he does then.

Well we've been waiting on the Cop for awhile now and whoever that is still hasn't came out and said anything yet. I'm not really in a position to say if we should kill somebody or not considering how well that went the last day. I will say that we need to come up with something fast though. Don't have much time left this day round and aside from Lady Flare's theories not much else has been said.

Also Black Yoshi's reasons for voting Lightvanye don't seem that legit to me. That and I think that's an odd reason to vote for somebody for.

Oh, my bad. I thought the round ended last night. This gives everyone a chance to say who they suspect.

God, I always find myself in such a pickle when it basically comes down to two people racking up votes who are going back and forth <_>

Both are, without a doubt, some level of suspicious. Without an explicit verdict, it's hard go on much more than "but look he said this he did this for no reason wow look how guilty he seems like wtf why he say that" - which admittedly can be telling, but I think past behavior and play might be slightly more so.

1. Black Yoshi

I can remember two times where Black Yoshi was Mafia within the past few months - once when I outed him (the game with the Serial Killer [yours truly ft. Moonray], Game 26), and Game 24 (hosted by Majora featuring Lady Flare as the Replacement, Moonray threw Hindenburg under the bus and then Flare replaced him [never forget], hezekiah and I were Lovers [never forget pt. 2] etc.).. and both times he was 1. pretty quiet throughout the game, not argumentative (didn't argue much at all, bent to my will in Game 26 heheheheheh) and 2. outed himself to the town. I mean, literally admitted his guilt once the town slightly suspected him.

[p:83561] (Game 24)
[p:87177] (Game 26 - lol'ing @ rereading this and my attitude. Am I a sass-master or WHAT)

He's been both actively participating and hasn't outright admitted his guilt. Does that make him innocent? Of course not. My point is simply that he is not following past Mafia behavior for him.

2. Lightvayne

idk I don't really know how he plays too well because I think the only time he was Mafia was when Majora and I hosted the mini-game and I wasn't really paying attention once I left for England in the middle of the game. But... IDK.



Next Day:



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basically I don't think either should be lynched this Day round even though it's quite possible at least one of them is guilty. While I doubt that they're both part of the main Mafia, it's even possible that one of them is the Traitor and the other is a member of the main hub... but I'm not willing to bet on that by any means.

I will add that I take highly to Lady Flare's list of names because that is roughly my feeling on a lot of the people which I'd like to get into later (lol no I'm not at work now and playing Mafia haha aha ahah ha ha ha). I'd replace some of the concrete "Townie" or "Suspicious/Guilty" labels with "?????" but I would have to do some rereading before I can make that a thing.

Wait, I remember Lightvayne kicking my butt when I was the Serial Killer and he was a Townie/Town-sided (game 26). I don't really think he's acting particularly out of character when you relate this game to that game, but I think I have to go back and read through Minigame 1 when he actually was guilty idk

also



- Lightvayne

Chaos wasn't playing in the last game though ??? Unless he's someone I know and I missed it

oh also a few days ago I was editing the Mafia Roles to make 'em look prettier and I saw this and meant to bring it up:



I mean, I kind of already figured the ENTIRE Mafia wouldn't vote for him but idk it just seemed like a point of interest since I didn't know there was a condition on it

am I The Bandit right now

sorry I missed actually adding context

** I kind of already figured the ENTIRE Mafia wouldn't vote for The Bandit (assuming he was probably Executioner killed from the first 6 votes reached against him if that's the criteria that was used but it's not really clear so I'm kind of confused) but idk it just seemed like a point of interest since I didn't know there was a condition on it

ALSO, SORRY FOR THE SPAM THIS IS WHERE IT ENDS (maybe lol)

But the ratio is very likely 8-6 right now so a mislynch could very well be the end for us after a night kill.

I still have more to say later and it involves deep contemplation in the meantime on who I think needs to die.

wait nvm it's possible the Traitor is dead but then again PN is still alive so obviously the ratio is correct

^_^

Mommy, I'm seeing ghosts...

I'm so confused. I honestly don't know anymore (cry)

who dies

I don't know. I'm game for voting for anyone on my suspect list.

The Town and Mafia are almost tied. If we flipped a coin as to whether someone is Mafia or not, we would just about have a 50:50 chance of being right. And isn't it strange that things have been a little quiet lately. I wonder if the Mafia Thread is this quiet?

I seriously wouldn't be surprised if the whole thread is going to do a very near-end lynch vote and then night kill to win the game. It's happened before and, as you said, they are likely close to a tie at this point.

We COULD go with a no kill... IDK how the Fisherman role really works, but if they have something like a killing power in the upcoming night, I think that would be the only way the game would end IF we decide to do a no kill at this point (if the Mafia make a kill and the Fisherman did as well). But I don't even know if they HAVE a potential killing ability, I've never played with the role before.

But as you said, we have a very good chance of nailing a Mafia even if we take a shot in the dark.

I guess it just depends if we're willing to take the risk is all <___>

i am the one who knocks

Who's There?


Yeah, I pretty much forgot there was a game going on. I'm gonna grab a beer then see what jumps out at me. Stay tuned.

Well there's not really a whole ton that I got out of this nearly-over round, unfortunately... I certainly appreciate that there are some people keeping this game lively (sorry again), but white lancer did stick out to me somewhat. First, he laments the fact that we lynched Bandit. No duh it sucks we killed a townie, but it seemed like shit just went crazy at the start of last round. Not to Hindy always being crazy. I'd love to see at the end of the game that he was the Traitor... how shitty would that have been for the mafia! Anyway, lancer goes on to suggest not voting for somebody suspicious just because they might be the ballot forger target. That is some odd logic in my eyes.

Plus, it's day 4 and he's still alive.

ok is someone dying or not please be quick

WE HAVE 10 MINUTES CAN SOMEONE PLEASE BE THERE SO WE CAN DO SOMETHING LIKE KILL SOMEONE BECAUSE I AM NOT GONNA BE THE ONE TO VOTE FOR BLACK YOSHI OR LIGHTVAYNE AND HAVE THEM BE THE COP I'M NOT SURE ENOUGH TO TAKE ON THAT RESPONSIBILITY I AM STILL YOUNG

At this point, no one seems to care. (cry)

FLARE DO WE DO SOMETHING WE HAVE 1 MINUTE

Oh. Um. I guess I consider Light slightly more suspicious. Hope I'm not wrong (duck)

If someone wants me to, I'll switch. But a No Kill right now seems like a terrible idea, hardly better than killing a townie with how the ratio probably is.

Yes hello this is the ghost of MajorasMask9 how is everyone today.

Today it seemed like the town would be stuck with a tie, but in an elegant twist of fate, the tie was broken. Lightvayne would be put to death...

"Any objections?"

Apparently not...

Farewell to the Governor, Lightvayne... May he rest in peace.

Players

Apollo Justice
Hindenburg - ????
Black Yoshi
Speed Bike Pro
MajorasMask9 - ????
Lady Flare
EvilGuy0613
Lightvayne - Governor
Jo Nathan - ????
white lancer
chiefsonny
The Bandit - Townie
Pirate_Ninja
hezekiah
Count Dooku
Chaos Incarnate
Helius
FAW

Starting Ratio 11-6-1
Known Ratio 9-6-1

Townie x7, Cop, Fisherman
Godfather x1, Executioner x1, Ballot Forger x1, Traitor x1, Mafioso x1, Janitor x1
Fool

Night will end in 24 hours or after all night actions are in.