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night 5 never more to go astray thisll be the end today of the wanted man

Posted June 12, 2013 by White Thunder

The town woke up praying that their recent victories would slow down the Mafia onslaught. They were sorely disappointed.

They first found the body of Yeano. He had been thoroughly interrogated before he was mercilessly killed, but it was deduced that he had given away no information. That was a good sign for the town, as he had been the Cop.

The next body found was that of Count Dooku, with both his hands cut off and killed execution style. His house was a weird collaboration of pairs and matches, and the town quickly surmised that he was the Double-Voter. The town mourned the loss of two strong players and roles over the night.

1. white lancer- Vigilante
2. Speed Bike Pro- Doctor
3. Hindenburg
4. Kyon
5. Roxas
6. Jo Nathan
7. MajorasMask9- Townie
8. Apollo Justice- Mafioso
9. Pirate_Ninja
10. Redack
11. Castrael
12. Feral- Silencer
13. Black Yoshi
14. weid man
15. Trever Leingod
16. igga
17. The Bandit
18. chiefsonny
19. Yeano- Cop
20. Zanic
21. #85
22. Bubba
23. Count Dooku- Double-Voter
24. hezekiah
25. Llight- Apprentice
26. Female Alpha Wolf- Townie
27. Shadowwalked- Hooker

Town-Mafia ratio: 12-5

Town roles: Governor, Lazarus, Townie x10

Mafia roles: Godfather, Assassin, Mafioso x3

72 hours or 11 votes to end the round.

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We should try to keep the day open as long as possible. Like I said last round, I'd like to hear from the more quiet players.

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`Roxas`

Me too, we have not heard from them since the game started!

Hezy, igga, Trev, Weid, Kyon and Hindy. I think I named the lot. Do you agree, Roxas?

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Castrael

yeah wow I came back this afternoon to actually be constructive and it was night all of the sudden (:|)

hoo boy, what a mess~

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Pirate_Ninja

Hat's off to Yeano.

Any reason why we don't go with LLight's last assumption?

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Bubba

Guess the mafia didn't get what they were hoping to out of the last day round, since we continued listening to Yeano.

I still haven't seen anything to make me less supsicious of Bubba...

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hezekiah

I'm all for voting for Kyon, who was the last on Llight's list. His play this game seems a lot different from last game when he was a townie.

However, holding off on voting to encourage more discussion.

Speaking of which, I took a page from LLight's book and noticed weid man was active several times throughout the day. I definitely want to hear from him more than anyone.

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The Bandit

Holy shit, Yeano was the Cop?!

Anyway, there go all of my suspicions. Will have to see what happens over the course of the round and go back and read previous rounds in order to glean anything more. Only thing I have to go on is that JN seemed extremely suspicious of chiefsonny as the latter's defense of Apollo seemed to JN to be consistent with his defense of fellow Mafia/Aliens in past games.

In other news, I'll be babysitting most of tomorrow, starting bright and early tomorrow morning, and following that I have a saxophone lesson, so while I should be able to get on, I probably won't have anything productive to say until later tomorrow night.

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Black Yoshi

Llight has been 3/3 on his list, so I'm inclined to go for Kyon. But I'll definitely hear everyone out.

Well, we lost two more power players. I guess the mafia figured we weren't going to vote Yeano out. Kyon is likely mafia because if Count Dooku were to keep going with Llight's plan, Kyon would be next on the chopping block. But his inactivity concerns me.

I suspect Black Yoshi too. I feel like he's been flying under the radar too much and I also pointed out his contradictory posts on day 2. So if you would ask me who I would vote for, as of right now, I'd say him. But of course we need to hear from these quiet players and I don't feel comfortable going forward without them explaining themselves today.

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Zanic

I'm more curious about Trever. Because he hasn't said one thing so far. And usually he helps out, but he seems to be making excuses.

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Castrael

Whoa. An entire day round and night round passed already? I don't even feel like I've been gone that long. Anyway, I was pretty suspicious of Yeano, almost surprised that he actually was the cop. Other than that, I didn't really have any strong feelings either way toward anybody, except Apollo which we already got.

As Black Yoshi said about JN, it was sort of peculiar the way he was accusing chief and defending Apollo, but I'm not sure if I'm entirely sold yet. I haven't been able to really go back and look over the threads from the other days yet, so I'll probably have to do that again and see if I find anything out of the ordinary.

And I'm also all in favor of sticking to LLight's list, if anybody else has the same interest. 3/3 is pretty solid.

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igga

What has Bubba done that's suspicious, hezy?

I'm not sure if we should follow LLight's instinct of Kyon. Yeah he's 1-for-2 as far as his Mafia suspicions go. Not saying I'm against it, just a bit unsure.

Right now going off of gut instinct for the most part, these are players I'm looking at as Mafia:

weid man (hasn't said much of anything in the main thread) and Castrael (continues to repeat what has been said by others)

Could go either way:

#85 (A lot less suspicious of him as I was initially), Redack (odd that he's still alive), Kyon, Trever

Unlikely, but still possible:

chiefsonny, Pirate_Ninja, igga, Bubba, hezy

More than likely innocent:

Zanic, Jo Nathan, Bandit, myself

Unsure:

Hindenburg, Black Yoshi, The Bandit

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`Roxas`

the problem I have with LLight's list is that it only really tells us who was active overnight - we run the risk of killing off our own power roles (or leading the mafia right to their doorstep - RIP in peace, Doctor Bikepro). "Hello fellow mafias let's do some plotting" isn't going to look much different than "hey WT how do I Lazarus" in the end. And given the continued presence of the Assassin, that only makes it more likely that we lose two innocents a night - there are hardly any roles left to avoid.

I'm not saying I trust Kyon, just that we should keep the risk in mind before making any hasty judgments. I'm suspicious of him, really, but I agree it'd serve us well to let a little discussion go on before casting death ballots all loosey-noosey.


More than likely innocent:

Zanic, Jo Nathan, Bandit, myself
doubting your own inncence, confirmed for mafaia

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Pirate_Ninja

We should try to keep the day open as long as possible. Like I said last round, I'd like to hear from the more quiet players.


Agree with this.

I'm trying to firm up just who I think the last 5 Mafia members are.
I've gone back and read all the post (including the ones that LLight made, even though they made my hair hurt{:P}) hoping to get some kind of clue.

I think it is really a shame that we don't have access to the threads in the last game. Don't know why we don't. I did go back to a couple other games.

So here's who I think may be the last 5 Mafia. Keep in mind this is mostly from a gut feeling, although I have taken into consideration the way they are playing based on the way they have played in previous game, as well as their posting or lack thereof in this game.

weid man
Castrael
Kyon
Trever
Bubba
Hindenburg

I know, I listed 6. I'm just not as sure on Bubba and Hindenburg.
Bubba: His posting record now and past is hard to read.
Hindenburg: Playing a different game from last game when he was a townie.

Keep in mind, most of this is just my gut feeling.

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chiefsonny
 

Sorry to have been so out of touch this game >_< With WiFi connection issues and the last day round being so short, I really feel like this game is passing me by in a flash.

Both teams are really giving one hell of a fight this game. A lot of power roles down already (Town is down to two now). Sadly our cop got no info prior to his death, so it's back to gut instinct as usual.

As for the suspicions on Bubba and weid man, it's really hard to say on this... they are both new to the game so we could be leaping at shadows. I haven't seen anything particularly suspicious from either - I don't really count being online and not saying stuff in the main thread as necessarily suspicious, there's more to GT than Mafia - but it's also no reason to trust them either. First timers can be amazingly dangerous to play with (Speed and Hindy come to mind, they survived their first game and played a pretty strong role in eliminating the Mafia).

Two people I am strongly confident are innocent are Zanic and Roxas. I dunno why but I read their playing styles more easily than most, and they just don't seem to leaning towards any tendencies they do when they are playing Mafia.

The only suspicious about Redack is that he still alive {:P} And once again, he's pointing fingers at Castrael. I'm not sure if Redack's instincts on her are some type of sorcery or he just has a grudge against her o.O

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Trever Leingod

doubting your own inncence, confirmed for mafaia

{:P} I know I'm not Mafia.

And wow, just realized I listed Bandit twice. (:S)

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`Roxas`

Look who's repeating themselves now {:P}

Kidding, of course. (hehe)

I laugh at his vibes. Everyone says go with your gut instinct, but is it all true? That's when you start second guessing yourself. I don't see how I've been repeating myself, tbh. Maybe it's because of the prescription drugs I'm still on? Who knows.

So, with that said, if we're going to stick with LLight's stats, I think we should. We got most of the players on his list, one more won't hurt, right guys?

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Castrael

Well you guys keep are hounding me to say something here, go abead and interrogate me all you want. Just remember Roxas, you don't have to put on the red LLight!

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weid man

So, with that said, if we're going to stick with LLight's stats, I think we should. We got most of the players on his list, one more won't hurt, right guys?

Can't forget that one of those players was a townie power role as well. Kyon could easily be the Lazarus or Governor. (Giving the Mafia a reason to push LLight's list) I'm still leaning toward him being our lynch, but his response to the heat on him should be telling on whether or hot he has a power role.

I would respond to my name being brought up, but I really have no idea what I'm doing that should be labeled suspicious, nor has anyone really brought up anything. I died first and second in my first (and only) mafia games, so I'm really just now getting the feel for the game.

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Bubba

My thoughts are we gotta get the assassin out

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#85

Well you guys keep are hounding me to say something here, go abead and interrogate me all you want. Just remember Roxas, you don't have to put on the red LLight!


Well that certainly was enlightening.

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chiefsonny
 

I'm not sure if I want to go along with the last person on Llight's list now due to everyone's willingness to go after Kyon. It makes me worry that the mafia are totally setting us up.

Strange that we haven't heard from Redack yet, but I'm not so sure he's mafia. Based on past games, he's been talkative. But last game he stayed quiet to fly under everyone's radar when he was a townie. I understand that he could easily playing us into thinking that, but I would think that he would have started talking by now.

So I immediately look to the people looking at Redack as an easy lynch. My whole strategy this game has been to point out flaws that people might have posted and its been working so far. I'm not sure about Castrael at this point.

My list of who I think are mafia would probably go like this:

Black Yoshi
Castrael
Bubba
Possibly Kyon

And I'm not sure about the last one, but I have my doubts about chiefsonny.

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Zanic

I didn't notice anything about you that I'd consider suspicious. Then again, I was on a business trip all last week and may have missed some things.

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Jo Nathan

Holy mother of replies! My post was in response to Bubba.

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Jo Nathan

I wonder what's up with the Governor nowadays. {8D}

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Castrael

Jo Nathan is Mafia.

I now release this goes back to the time I threw you under the bus. But I won't pay your game. I'll only vote for you when I'm sure what you are.

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chiefsonny
 

@weid

Why haven't you been posting much of anything, let alone anything useful, in the Main Thread? Is it because you don't want to give away your role if you are a power role, or is it because you are in the Mafia and don't want to risk giving yourself and team mates away? Why shouldn't we lynch you now to avoid a weigh down if it comes to a critical point in the game?

Look who's repeating themselves now ... I don't see how I've been repeating myself, tbh.

I've already said that you repeat what other players say, simply agreeing with them. There's a difference between that and my lack of proofreading.

My thoughts are we gotta get the assassin out

{y}{y}{y}

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`Roxas`

Jo Nathan is Mafia.


I like your thinking, Chief. {:P}

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Castrael

Okay, I'll be serious, for now. (:$)

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Castrael

Jo Nathan is Mafia.

I now release this goes back to the time I threw you under the bus. But I won't pay your game. I'll only vote for you when I'm sure what you are.


I'm confused. When did you throw me under the bus? Chief, the only game I'm playing is Mafia. I'm not trying to get you back or anything like that. I stated my reason for suspecting you, and your refusal to acknowledge that reason has only strengthened my suspicion further. That's why I've been relentless with my voting for you.

I wouldn't worry, though. It doesn't seem anyone is listening to me anyway.


I like your thinking, Chief. {:P}


Well now that's interesting...

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Jo Nathan

I was kidding, Nathan. {:P}

I don't think you're Mafia.

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Castrael

Well you guys keep are hounding me to say something here, go abead and interrogate me all you want. Just remember Roxas, you don't have to put on the red LLight!

He finally posts something and it's horribly defensive. It's like he's been reading the entire time, knows we keep bringing up his silence, and still chose not to say anything.

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The Bandit

Redack (odd that he's still alive)


That reasoning is getting old fast.

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Redack

I'm confused. When did you throw me under the bus? Chief, the only game I'm playing is Mafia


Just trying to get you riled up a bit.{:P}

Didn't know if you'd jump on it or not.

I sometimes get carried away with my warped sense of humor.{fp}

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chiefsonny
 

Also since there is suspicion of me I've decided the wisest course of action is to be completely honest with you guys, I lied about being townie :/

I'm actually the double-voter.

Pretty useless role if you ask me :/

Also I'm still adamant that Castrael will turn out to be Mafia.

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Redack

Is that supposed to be a joke...?

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The Bandit

Who?

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Redack

Chief, you had me confused! At first I thought maybe you were referring to the Christmas game, but I voluntarily stepped in front of that bus.

I still think you're Mafia. {:P} But rest assured, I don't carry over grudges from previous games.

Except when it's Redack.

Who is now apparently trying to pass as a role that is no longer listed as a living role?

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Jo Nathan

Double Voter is dead, Redack.

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Castrael

Did....someone just slip up? DV is dead.

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Bubba

inb4 jk im lazurus

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The Bandit

You people don't know what a joke is I swear {:?}

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Redack

Well you seemed pretty surprised that I suggested you were joking.

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The Bandit

@Redack: *slap*

Where's Kyon anyways, he hasn't said anything? I wonder if he thinks we'll go by the stats that he doesn't actually care anymore.

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Castrael

Well you seemed pretty surprised that I suggested you were joking.


Well why would I pick a role that just died if I was going to seriously lie about it... Why would I even role reveal when there's an assassin?

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Redack

Well, that's a pretty darn good question right there Redack. Why would Chief claim himself a Townie when there's an Assassin? and the same thing for Nathan. Very confusing.

I'm still willing to vote for Kyon though.

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Castrael

[quote[Why would Chief claim himself a Townie when there's an Assassin? and the same thing for Nathan. Very confusing.


There's little harm in doing it, the assassin can pretty much pick anyone at random and guess townie and they're highly like to get it right.

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Redack

Anyone could lie though. :/ if the assassin takes the hit and turns out the person lied, the assassin dies instead.

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Castrael

That reasoning is getting old fast.

I agree with you Redack. And I defended you earlier, so just know that you're not very high on my list. Castrael, however; is. And I'm considering voting her out. The only problem is I have no clue what her playing style is like, so I'm not sure about her.

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Zanic

Well there's one logical reason for claiming DV - lying about it so you can trip up the Assassin. That kinda negates your one explanation:

Why would I even role reveal when there's an assassin?


Damage control? I dunno, I'll let the other players with better intuitions decide.

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Jo Nathan

Castrael, however; is. And I'm considering voting her out. The only problem is I have no clue what her playing style is like, so I'm not sure about her.


Join me and together we will destroy her or something...

Just vote for her, you won't regret it.

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Redack

There's definitely a bunch of what ifs, aren't there?

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Castrael

Yeah, I'm starting to wonder...

Cas is giving me a strong vibe that she and Redack are a team. And a post she made earlier in response to chief gives me the impression she's working with him, too, despite her effort to shrug it off as a mere joke.

"But Jo Nathan why would Redack throw his teammate under the bus when there's no reason to"

This exact thing happened earlier in this very game, and it happens all the time in Mafia. Don't you paying attention? {:P}

And if Redack turns out guilty, it would make me wonder about Zanic too. Zanic was previously giving me some Mafia vibes but not really anything worth mentioning at the time.

And at the risk of sounding like a broken record, I still suspect chief for reasons I've already stated multiple times. I guess if Cas turns out guilty, I'll have one more possible piece of evidence on him.

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Jo Nathan

Don't you paying attention?


Please ignore that atrocious grammar mistake. {fp}

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Jo Nathan

I grinned out loud Nathan. I really did. Why would I side with Chief? First, that was a joke I made. Second, with these vibes going on, they're just messing with our heads. I really think we should focus on the stats, before this turns out to be the battle of the wrongs.

LLight has been right and I totally support him this. I just find this all to funny, tbh. If I have to make the vote for Kyon myself, I will. I mean, serious, he's like one of the inactive players here and don't you want to hear from the inactive players first?

Hrm?

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Castrael

I agree with you there Castrael. I really need to hear from these inactive players. They've slid on by the whole game and it's very frustrating how they don't help us out.

And I would suggest people be more serious when playing this, especially this far into the game. I love joking around myself, but it throws people off when trying to decide who to vote for. Some people don't know if you're being serious or not.

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Zanic

Wow I sounded like a total buzzkill there.{:?}

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Zanic

I know I can be a jokester sometimes but I can't help it. I'm such a kid at heart that I forget that I'm playing a serious game sometimes. I'll need to work on, but I appreciate that Zanic.

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Castrael

Wow I sounded like a total buzzkill there.{/quote]

Don't worry about it, Zanic. {:3}


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Castrael

Some people don't know if you're being serious or not.


Did you ever consider why I do it? {;)}

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Redack

And at the risk of sounding like a broken record, I still suspect chief for reasons I've already stated multiple times. I guess if Cas turns out guilty, I'll have one more possible piece of evidence on him




What?

So, let me get this straight.

I have put Cas on my list of people that I think may be Mafia, see my post above in this thread.

And if she turns out to be Mafia, thats a piece of evidence that's going to make you think I'm Mafia?

Hello.

Can I have some of what you're smoking?

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chiefsonny
 

It's all part of my master plan. That's why I'm going to tell you that it's part of the plan, so you all can know that I'm planning things.

The best way to deceive people is to tell them what you're up to.

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The Bandit

I have put Cas on my list of people that I think may be Mafia, see my post above in this thread.

And if she turns out to be Mafia, thats a piece of evidence that's going to make you think I'm Mafia?


You missed my point. You putting Cas on your list is not the evidence I'm referring to. The way Cas responded to you after you accused me of being Mafia:

I like your thinking, Chief. {:P}


...is what I find suspicious.

And I've already stated that targeting someone who turns out to be guilty is something I'll never let cloud my judgement again. That is a hard lesson I learned in my first game, and a point that should have been driven home when Apollo helped to kill off Feral in this game.

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Jo Nathan

That is what I was referring to as a joke, Nathan.

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Castrael

Hmm... I was already convinced chief is Mafia a couple rounds ago, and perhaps it's possible my mind is just trying to incriminate anything associated with him. When I step back, I admit it does look silly how I would use that one thing against you. I can believe you probably were just joking there.

My admission of being momentarily overzealous doesn't change my other suspicions though.

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Jo Nathan

Would you ever consider Kyon, Hezy, or any of the inactive players to make their reasons known first?

I'm very confident that Kyon is Mafia.

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Castrael

I agree it would be good to hear from the inactive players.

Still thinking there are plenty of active Mafias here though, making sure things go their way....... (shifty)

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Jo Nathan

Hrm, why say that?

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Castrael

Still waiting for a reply to my questions, weid... Odd how it's been four hours since I asked my questions when you were on only 40 minutes beforehand and there's no response yet. (crs)

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`Roxas`

Along with the fact that you're practically always online.

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`Roxas`

I am always on, won't deny that, but sometimes I just step away from the computer though. I can't really do anything since I'm on drugs at the moment. I'd love to get out of my house and drive.

But, yeah, I agree with you on Weid though. What's your opinion?

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Castrael

weid man -- 6 Seconds ago


Where are youuuuu?

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The Bandit

What's your opinion on weid, Castrael...

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Redack

I'm not defending him, but isn't weid normally this unhelpful and quiet?

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Zanic

I know a lot of people are getting vibes from Castrael, but I will say this in defense of her: She never doubted that Yeano was the cop. She committed her full support to him from the start. It definitely seems like the mafia left him around hoping that we would lynch him off, and if that was their plan, I don't see Cas directly going against that plan.

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The Bandit

I think this is his first game.

You would think he would at least make an effort, but it does not surprise me that he hasn't.

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chiefsonny
 

@Redack: I almost called you Roxas :P

My opinion? He's definitely on my list for being Mafia. I mean, this is my first time playing with him and he hasn't said much. I'm not defending him either, but I'd choose him if I were you. And, to be honest, the way he answered the Town like that earlier, just threw me off guard.

Weid-

Well you guys keep are hounding me to say something here, go abead and interrogate me all you want. Just remember Roxas, you don't have to put on the red LLight!


With that being said, it kinda makes me think why he would throw himself at you guys like that. Just my opinion.

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Castrael

But, I still also support LLights stats too.

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Castrael

I don't know. I'm still thinking it's Black Yoshi. But I'm open for ideas.

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Zanic

It's definitely a lot harder with the cop gone, but like Bandit said, I'm sticking to my word. I have other suggestions, but they're all pretty risky since most of the players are inactive. If we don't hear from them in the next few hours, what would you guys do?

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Castrael

Pretty sure hes madia

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#85

mafia, also

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#85

Weidy, oh Weidy
Here is a gun from us
We'll kill you, we'll kill you
If we get close, you can bet we won't miss with this



0:46 to 1:01

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`Roxas`

Oh Zanic, you're just pissed about that game when you were Godfather and I was Fisherman, aren't you?

No, but seriously, taking me out will only hurt the Town's chances of winning, and we're already down nearly all of our power roles as it is; even if the ratio is far more favorable now than at the start of the game, nearly the whole Town is vanilla Townies, and even with this ratio we can't afford to lose a Townie. Not with the Assassin still on the loose.

That said, having taken a bit of time to read through this post today when my babysitting charge was otherwise occupied, the only person I find suspicious is hezy. Usually he's a quieter player, but when he's Mafia he's been shown to be especially quiet, and this may be one of those games. Then again, this is that time of year when everyone and their mother packs up and travels, so it could be just a matter of IRL issues, but it's worth taking a look at.

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Black Yoshi

Oh Zanic, you're just pissed about that game when you were Godfather and I was Fisherman, aren't you?

I actually forgot about that game until now. I was so close if it hadn't been for you.{:P}

Naa, I'm just basing my suspicions off of things people have posted. Nothing personal, I'm just trying to bring victory to the town.

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Zanic

isn't weid normally this unhelpful and quiet?

(Didn't notice this until now, but...) Yes, he's normally this unhelpful. No, he's not normally this quiet.

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`Roxas`

Just read what has happened after I last posted.

Reddack seems innocent, a mafia wouldn't fake being anyone at this point, especially since Redack hasn't been under heavy fire this round. As it was said, it seemed like he was just trying to bait the assassin.

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Bubba

4 hours later and I see this:

weid man -- 4 Minutes ago

but still no word from the guy.

I want to let the round linger, but I feel pretty confident this dude is mafia, so w/e.

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The Bandit

I don't know why exactly we'd just want to get rid of weid this round. If he's mafia, he's nowhere near a threat. It's not like he's the brains of any sort of operation or anything. I'd much rather we got an actual good mafia player lynched first. Maybe if he was 100% confirmed mafia, but as it stands now I'd rather we worked toward getting rid of a bigger threat.

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igga

I will be in six flags tomorrow, so if I do get on, it won't be until late tomorrow. You guys can figure out who to lynch without me.

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Zanic

I'll go with Bandit on this one (plus last round I already said why he might be the assassin).

I don't know why exactly we'd just want to get rid of weid this round. If he's mafia, he's nowhere near a threat. It's not like he's the brains of any sort of operation or anything. I'd much rather we got an actual good mafia player lynched first. Maybe if he was 100% confirmed mafia, but as it stands now I'd rather we worked toward getting rid of a bigger threat.


There's also no harm in removing him from the town either since he isn't contributing... One less Mafia is always a better thing, one less inactive townie is just as good right now since the mafia could easily just kill us all off until only the inactive ones are left.

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Redack



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Jo Nathan

Since it's becoming obvious weid doesn't want to respond...

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`Roxas`

I think you guys should lynch me instead. I'm tired. Annoyed. I'm not giving up. Just annoyed. I'm stepping down and taking Weid's spot instead. I'm surrendering myself in place of Weid. I'm the one you want.

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Castrael

weid man confirmed Mafia power role, Cas trying to save him

{:P}

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Jo Nathan

Weid's more than likely innocent. You don't have to worry about him. it's me you have to worry about. (horror)

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Castrael

I also think weid man is Mafia. He's on my list. But a Power role. Godfather, Assassin?

Based on the way he post on the other forums, I doubt he would be able to stay silent.

But I do believe Cas is a Mafia power role.

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chiefsonny
 

Then, lynch me. :P

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Castrael

Hypothesis: Cas is Godfather, weid is Assassin.

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`Roxas`

I doubt Weid's the assassin. He's too new.

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Castrael

Then, lynch me. :P


Be patient.

If you're in that much of a hurry to die.

Weid's more than likely innocent. You don't have to worry about him. it's me you have to worry about


Then tell us why we need to worry.

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chiefsonny
 

My opinion? He's definitely on my list for being Mafia.

Weid's more than likely innocent.

Really don't understand why you would just throw yourself under the bus like this. I really doubt weid is the one chance your team has to win. : /

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The Bandit

I doubt Weid's the assassin. He's too new.


If roles are pick randomly, being new wouldn't have anything to do with it.

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chiefsonny
 

at the very least I think lynching weid is unlikely to be a threat

We've had some quick rounds lately, so if he did have a special role I think it'd more likely be mafia-sided, where he'd have a support team to guide the decision-making process.

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Pirate_Ninja

Because I'm the one who has pretty much suggested to kill the lot of you.

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Castrael

Cas, should we maybe lynch chief instead? That's what I've been trying for this whole time.

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Jo Nathan

lynch chief? We can definitely do that. You with me on that one?

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Castrael

I'm not ready to take my vote off weid at the moment. For now I was just curious about your opinion.

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Jo Nathan

Because I'm the one who has pretty much suggested to kill the lot of you.


If by "lot of you" you are referring to townies, why would you do such a thing?

UNLESS

And if that's the case, just tell us who you are Ma Lady.

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chiefsonny
 

I mean, whenever you vote for Chief, he always ends up Mafia.

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Castrael

I mean, whenever you vote for Chief, he always ends up Mafia.


You mean like last game.{fp}

But I don't blame you for trying to divert attention from your self by putting it on me.
But why in the world did you put yourself in the spotlight by making the kind of post you made above?

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chiefsonny
 

Because I am tired. Annoyed. and I am the one you should probably lynch

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Castrael

I mean, you can just stop playing now and we'll be sure to lynch you tomorrow. Go ahead and rest.

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The Bandit

Cas is giving me a strong vibe that she and Redack are a team. And a post she made earlier in response to chief gives me the impression she's working with him, too, despite her effort to shrug it off as a mere joke. -Jo Nathan


I don't see why these two would be a team unless Redack is doing "push a team member under the bus" or he's trying to look innocent by pointing a finger at Cas like he often does.

The thing is, I'm not getting this "vibe" thing. Usually she gets pointed out for being too quiet when she's Mafia and she is one of the more active posters this round.

LLight has been right and I totally support him this. -Castrael


Don't be so heavily reliant on his statistics {:P} That stuff is all theory-based, and while it's an interesting approach to things, it is far from foolproof.

I know a lot of people are getting vibes from Castrael, but I will say this in defense of her: She never doubted that Yeano was the cop. She committed her full support to him from the start. It definitely seems like the mafia left him around hoping that we would lynch him off, and if that was their plan, I don't see Cas directly going against that plan. -The Bandit


Too bad said cop never got any useful info before his untimely death :/ I also don't see her support of him necessarily a sign of innocence, Mafia is full of tricks and head games made to fool everyone else.

That said, having taken a bit of time to read through this post today when my babysitting charge was otherwise occupied, the only person I find suspicious is hezy. Usually he's a quieter player, but when he's Mafia he's been shown to be especially quiet, and this may be one of those games. Then again, this is that time of year when everyone and their mother packs up and travels, so it could be just a matter of IRL issues, but it's worth taking a look at. -Black Yoshi


I am always curious as to what he is up to. He's in every single game and yet he's always a quiet player. Since he says so little, the best thing you can do in regard to hezekiah is a flip a coin and hope it is right xD

There's also no harm in removing him from the town either since he isn't contributing... One less Mafia is always a better thing, one less inactive townie is just as good right now since the mafia could easily just kill us all off until only the inactive ones are left. -Redack


See, I don't like this way of thinking. It's borked. A non-contributing innocent is still an innocent (though obviously his innocence is questionable). It just helps put the Mafia one person closer to a win. It doesn't matter if they are inactive, a living townie still stands in the way of a Mafia win. The first time I played Mafia, FAW (FBI agent) was inactive most of the game. After I died that game, she woke up finally and arrested CtR Black who was also Mafia, and because of that arrest, the Mafia lost their last chance at winning the game. If someone had thought to lynch FAW based on inactivity earlier in that game, it would have likely deprived the town of a victory. Lesson to learn: don't kill off likely innocent players for inactivity. If you have genuine concerns they could be Mafia, I understand, but the basis of noncontributing/inactive player just does not fly with me one bit.

I doubt Weid's the assassin. He's too new. -Castrael


How many times you play a game has nothing to do with your role, cough. I've been in just about every game in the past year and I've gotten a power role only once, cough.

Because I'm the one who has pretty much suggested to kill the lot of you. -Castrael


Wait, what the heck are you talking about? And why are you suddenly defending wied when you seemed to agree about the suspicions him earlier? o_O

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Trever Leingod

Too bad said cop never got any useful info before his untimely death :/

What game are you playing? He helped us kill two people.

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The Bandit

How many times you play a game has nothing to do with your role, cough. I've been in just about every game in the past year and I've gotten a power role only once, cough.


Yeah, this I realized as soon as Chief mentioned it. I know that the roles are handed out.

Wait, what the heck are you talking about? And why are you suddenly defending wied when you seemed to agree about the suspicions him earlier? o_O


Because, Weid is new and he should be given the chance to learn to do things on his own. He may be quiet now, but maybe he just doesn't know how to play the game very well. it is his first game, after all. Hell, I was lynched so many times in the past game and I know it's just a game, but really, I got a lot of experience with this Game 18.

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Castrael

*aren't

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Castrael

He's played Epic Mafia at least a few times before signing up for this game, but the way their actions are submitted were difficult for him. Here, all he would have to do is say who he wants to kill/investigate/stalk/save/whatever and it's done. Simple drop down menu for voting, easily accessible at time of reply.

And it is unlike weid to be this quiet about anything.

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`Roxas`

Huh...now that is certainly interesting. Cas started this round off on the same boat as most of the rest of us, namely the gunship aimed to lynch Weid -- but all at once she turned and started defending him. I've seen that happen many times since I've been playing/watching Mafia, and usually that only happens when a relatively new player is given a Mafia-sided role. Therefore, given that half the Town has already voted Weid...

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Black Yoshi

Note: Six more votes needed to end the round.

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`Roxas`

Six more votes, you say. This should speed it up a bit.

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Castrael

What game are you playing? He helped us kill two people.


Scratch what I said... I obviously missed too much while I was without internet access. >_<

Because, Weid is new and he should be given the chance to learn to do things on his own. He may be quiet now, but maybe he just doesn't know how to play the game very well. it is his first game, after all. Hell, I was lynched so many times in the past game and I know it's just a game, but really, I got a lot of experience with this Game 18.


Sadly Mafia is a rough game and people don't care about being "fair" to new players. My first game, I died the first night. And you have been the sacrificial doll how many times now Cas?

And it is unlike weid to be this quiet about anything.


Not much I can say about this, I don't talk to him much.

Huh...now that is certainly interesting. Cas started this round off on the same boat as most of the rest of us, namely the gunship aimed to lynch Weid -- but all at once she turned and started defending him. I've seen that happen many times since I've been playing/watching Mafia, and usually that only happens when a relatively new player is given a Mafia-sided role. Therefore, given that half the Town has already voted Weid...


Well if Redack's vibe on Cas is right, I suppose this could be the case. It's not that farfetched and too unbelievable either.

I do not have any particular suspicions against him but the reasons given by others are enough to make me think that weid is actually Mafia.

I am casting my vote now, but I ask others out there to withhold votes so that the round does not end early.

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Trever Leingod

I'm still suspicious of Chief though. What if Nathan's right?

(:|)

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Castrael

All I have to say is this

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weid man

Answers, weid; I'd like answers to my questions, not songs. It's the only way you possibly have a way out of this Day Round alive.

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`Roxas`

Because I do not know what to say and I want someone to hold my hand so I don't screw up.

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weid man

If that in of itself isn't enough to convince you, folks, I don't know what is. We have this day's lynch all but signed, sealed, delivered. We have tomorrow's waiting in a nicely shipped package that's waiting on our doorsteps when we awake next Day.

Just a matter of who dies during the Night and how many at this point.

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`Roxas`

This pretty much sums it up

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weid man

Can we please kill weid before he links anymore Bon Jovi?

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The Bandit

Another thing worth noting: hezekiah hasn't answered my question as to what exactly he finds suspicious about Bubba.

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`Roxas`

Yet another note: Kyon and Hindy haven't spoken this round.

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`Roxas`

Yes, I agree with that Roxas. Hezy has been very quiet as of late, which is unlike him.

So has Hindy, but I dunno too much about him.

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Castrael

Yet another note: Kyon and Hindy haven't spoken this round.


From what I can find Kyon has not posted anything since Day Round 2 on June 4th.

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chiefsonny
 

Cas, hezy is normally quiet, but he at least gets engaged in the game when his name is brought up, which he hasn't done since I asked my initial question of him.

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`Roxas`

You're correct, chief.

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`Roxas`

Hindy's last post was the first day of Round 4.

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chiefsonny
 

He might have forgotten about the game, but it's definitely something to look into.

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Castrael

I go to work for the day and all the action happens.

Reading through the thread, my first reaction was suspicion at the weid man turn, almost seems mafia oriented. But then weid man's postings are really odd. Then again, weid man is always an odd ball of sorts.

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Bubba

Can we please kill weid before he links anymore Bon Jovi?

I'm considering keeping him alive just so we can keep getting good songs. He's 3 for 3 in my book {:P}

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White Thunder

@White Thunder, maybe you should have introduced a 3rd party role called "Weid's Hand Holder"

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chiefsonny
 

I think we should be worried about trying to take out the Assassin, so we stop loosing two. Weid seems to have been inactive, and the assassin seems to have been very active.

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#85

(hehe)

Sorry, but, that was funny Chief. >.<;;;; I literally chuckled and now my jaw hurts.

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Castrael

Well, there are plenty of inactive players out there right now. :/

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Castrael

You guys have gotten me in a

4/4 now Thunder? Keep me alive please, give me a free ride.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek_4ADcA_Ik

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weid man

Except he's only been inactive in the Main Thread to our knowledge. If he is Mafia, which he hasn't denied, it's entirely possible he's active in the Mafia Thread and could be the Assassin just sneaking on through.

We suspect that SBP slipped up in OOGC somewhere and revealed his role (likely to Apollo, or numerous others), which could have led to the Assassin out. Yeano was practically confirmed after the lynch of Shadowwalked, so it was fairly easy for the Assassin to guess he was the Cop.

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`Roxas`

Sorry it got cut off after free ride. This is the song I meant to play for that one, after showing Stranglehold which is the first one I played to answer my first sentence in my last reply.

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weid man

The Assassin would be working for the KKK. Now you do what they told ya.

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weid man

There's absolutely no reason to think weid can't be the Assassin. He's also (imo) clearly mafia, and I'd rather take him out than risk losing 3 tonight.

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The Bandit

To be perfectly honest, I'm suspicious of anyone who isn't supporting a weid lynch at this point.

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The Bandit

And we're left with some deciding. If I were you, I'd go with the strongest player left and see where we're left off. Some people may be like, oh it's just a useless role I won't post. They may have you think that, but I think they could be hiding.

That's just my opinion. Then again, there are plenty of strong players here and that wont do any good.

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Castrael

THIS describes Yeano's death/lynch

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weid man

HELLO, I am trying to amuse White Thunder here and make him chuckle and hope he gives me a pass for my comical performance.

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weid man

C'mon, four more votes so we can move on with the game guys.

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`Roxas`

...

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Castrael

Oh, and before anyone begins thinking that weid will be saved by the Governor, I'm making sure that won't be the case.

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`Roxas`

You creep, Roxas. INSPECTOR FAGGOT. What song could describe the Governor saving me? Think for a second please.....gotta post another YT video to entertain White Thumder amd be his court jester.

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weid man

I'm saying the Governor won't save you. At all. Because I'm not going to veto a lynch against you.

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`Roxas`

O.o

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Castrael

All I've ever wanted in my life, is for Weid to die.

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Kyon

Yes, Cas?

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`Roxas`

I'm saying "O.o" at Weid's last comment...

Sorry for the confusion.

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Castrael

Uh huh...

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`Roxas`

Can we just get this round over with already...?

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Castrael

Nope, once you posted Ted Nugent that was the end of my sympathy for you.

Although you ALMOST made up for it with Clapton and Rage. Almost.

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White Thunder

Roxas you are one of those archaic conservative governors who wouldn't step in to do shit,,,,people got lynched and injured badly, many lost their limbs while working in the factories with hazardous working conditions. Step in and save me please. Step in and save the workers. This is not laseiz faire Mafia. We need big government.

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weid man

It's just a game, Weid.

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Castrael

y u heff to be mad???

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The Bandit

We know the game and we're gonna PLAY IT!

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weid man

The last time I saw this much immaturity in a person was when I visited my granddaughters day care.

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chiefsonny
 

RUDE, Eagle and Chief. I vote for both of them.

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weid man

And....people told me you like classic rock, especially due to your old age. So you should rather be amused at my videos as they are nearly all classic rock songs.

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weid man

Not everybody likes classic rock...

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Castrael

My point exactly Cas. Mnay young aged people today hate it.

Anyways, I apologize for igniting a troll war here. What I said to Roxas and the others through lashing out/insulting started a mass fireball. That was totally inapproriate and rude for me to do. I should have maybe just stopped posting so many YT videos for the lulz. This game is serious business....once again I am sorry.

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weid man

So I'm guessing Roxas is officially declaring himself the Governor more or less? I'm not too surprised given the fact he welcomed a lynch for himself earlier in the game. A bit welcoming to the Assassin if weid isn't the Assassin... and I guess you have nothing to lose by that since you are leaving in a few days.

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Trever Leingod

weid man, are you Mafia?

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Jo Nathan

That is for you to figure out, Jo.

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weid man

I'll ask you again weid.

Why haven't you been posting much of anything, let alone anything useful, in the Main Thread? Is it because you don't want to give away your role if you are a power role, or is it because you are in the Mafia and don't want to risk giving yourself and team mates away? Why shouldn't we lynch you now to avoid a weigh down if it comes to a critical point in the game?

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`Roxas`

2 more to end this round.

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The Bandit

Both of your points stand to be true, Roxas. Those are the main reasons why I have not been posting here, plus the fact that I am totally new to this game. I am new to this and asked my teammates for help, asking them to QUOTE what I should say so I wouldn't screw up on anything. They did not do this the past while so I decided to not say anything. I can't really think for myself in this game which I am new at. I need someone to hold my hand as this is my first time playing. Plus with my aspergers, I miss a whoie bunch of social cues, and often say the wrong things. So please do not lynch me for the love of God.

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weid man

Teammates? So you admit to being Mafia?

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`Roxas`

Weid has not publicly asked for any kind of help. I doubt he has gone to OOGC to find somebody town aligned to guide him. This leaves one possible explanation, and that is that weid is guilty of being Mafia. Now whether he is the Godfather, the Assassin or a Mafioso, I know not. But I have absolute certainty that based on his most recent reply, he is not with the Town.

Lady and Gentlemen of the Town, I rest my case.

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`Roxas`

I'm back for now.

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Zanic

ok after that

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#85

Bye weid.

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Bubba

Guys I'm the cop

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Jo Nathan

Round Over.

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`Roxas`

Yeah, round's over, but I gotta go, I'll start the night round when I get back.

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White Thunder

After a whole lotta silliness and one too many classic rock songs (it was the Ted Nugent one), the town decided to lynch weid man. They were extremely grateful they did, too, as they found that he had been the Assassin.

1. white lancer- Vigilante
2. Speed Bike Pro- Doctor
3. Hindenburg
4. Kyon
5. Roxas
6. Jo Nathan
7. MajorasMask9- Townie
8. Apollo Justice- Mafioso
9. Pirate_Ninja
10. Redack
11. Castrael
12. Feral- Silencer
13. Black Yoshi
14. weid man- Assassin
15. Trever Leingod
16. igga
17. The Bandit
18. chiefsonny
19. Yeano- Cop
20. Zanic
21. #85
22. Bubba
23. Count Dooku- Double-Voter
24. hezekiah
25. Llight- Apprentice
26. Female Alpha Wolf- Townie
27. Shadowwalked- Hooker

Town-Mafia ratio: 12-4

24 hours or until all night actions are in.

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White Thunder

Reply to: night 5 never more to go astray thisll be the end today of the wanted man

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