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night 6 guess so

Posted October 17, 2014 by Helius

No deaths to report.

1. SDYoshiMafioso
2. Black Yoshi
3. CastraelTownie
4. Jo NathanSerial Killer
5. LightvayneGodfather
6. `Roxas`Silencer
7. white lancerTownie
8. CtR BlackMarksman
9. MajorasMask9
10. EvilGuy0613
11. Lady FlareDoctor
12. Pirate Ninja
13. Ghowilo
14. hezekiah
15. chiefsonnyTracker
16. The BanditSpecial Club Member
17. Count DookuSpecial Club Member
18. Apollo Justice
19. Speed Bike ProTownie
20. Superbird KyonGuard
21. BubbaMafia Investigator

511

Townie
Apprentice – Tracker Fill In
Granny
Townies X 3

3rd Party
Journalist

Other
Admirer – Serial Killer Stand In

There are 30 Replies


Uhh...okay...Serial Killer must be trying to throw us off his trail. I had a suspicion on who it may be but I'll share that next time I'm on my computer (on mobile now).

October 17, 2014
Black Yoshi

Whether he's inactive or trying to play smart, I see no harm in getting rid of him. He's not doing us any good.

October 17, 2014
Ghowilo

cue speculation on whether that was strategic or just a missed deadline

2. Black Yoshi
10. EvilGuy0613
18. Apollo Justice
two of these people should be Townies, and one the Admirer; Journalist and Apprentice Tracker are pretty much on lock, and Majora has claimed Granny. Before anyone gets lynched, it would be really helpful for these people to add their input on this - if one of them claims Granny as well, we need to know before a lynch happens.

so are any of you three not a Townie?

October 17, 2014
Pirate_Ninja

Journalist says:

My guess is as good as yours, so how about we kill EvilGuy0613 today?

October 17, 2014
Helius

I mean, his name has Evil IN it...

I've been skimming over the rounds but have admittedly haven't been putting much of my heart and soul into this game and for that I apologize. I haven't been bored, just incredibly overloaded.

Anyways, I'll try and add something game-substantial soon but I have an incredibly busy upcoming weekend so I'll probably be a little floppy nubbie (jk I'll respond)

(But I'll still be a floppy nubbie)

October 17, 2014
Apollo Justice

Being the evil one I am people would obviously think I'm not innocent...

But really I just been legitimately inactive this game. Killing me you aren't losing anyone important sure and the only harm would be lowering the numbers but it's pointless to waste your vote on me.

Am I crazy to think someone is trying to make me look like the admirer but not killing anyone?

October 17, 2014
EvilGuy0613

You heard the Journalist!


Also... hey SK, you better not kill me, cuz I'm you're only shot at victory; even if you get it down to just you and Majora, you can't night kill the Granny and neither of you could lynch the other.

October 17, 2014
hezekiah

Who did you investigate hezekiah?

October 17, 2014
MajorasMask9

Why bother? The SK is immune to detection.

October 17, 2014
hezekiah

Oh I didn't realize that.

Ratio is 5-1-1. I realize this might seem like a bit of a paranoid vote but I'm going to vote for hezekiah. We don't need the journalist anymore and he's already brought up the suggestion of helping the serial killer in an endgame scenario, showing he doesn't particularly care for the game's outcome.

Aside from inactivity we don't really have any reason to suspect EvilGuy over someone like Pirate_Ninja (not singling you out specifically because I think you're more likely to be the serial killer but just to fairly emphasize the fact that you're not a confirmed townie despite your list [obviously] not reflecting that... ily tho...) Besides, he's already shown his activity this round by posting at the start of the round.

Whether or not we lynch hezekiah, we only have two mislynches left. That is, if we decide not to lynch hezekiah but we lynch someone innocent, we'll only have one more chance to successfully lynch someone before the Serial Killer wins. If we lynch hezekiah, we will still have two more chances to try to lynch someone before the serial killer wins. Basically, we won't be wasting a lynch by lynching hezekiah.

My fear with leaving the Journalist alive is because, as I said before, they simply do not care about the game's outcome. They care about writing articles that influence the town's vote. As the game gets closer to the end, he'll just write an article saying to lynch _____ and put a vote in for that person. This is exactly what happened when Bubba was the Journalist several games back and it really screwed the town (he refused to change his vote and it tipped the vote ratio into the mafia's favor.)

Obviously the chances of something like that happening again are lower since the ratio is 5-1-1, but even now, hezekiah suggested voting for EvilGuy and we're just going with it because we have no better leads. That's probably not a big problem now but in the next few rounds it will be.

October 17, 2014
MajorasMask9

Now that I'm on my computer (finally), I can lay out my logic. Looking at the list of who's left:

Black Yoshi
Majora
EvilGuy
Pirate_Ninja
Ghowilo
hezekiah
Apollo Justice

...we can already eliminate four of these as Admirer suspects:
Majora = Granny
Ghowilo = Apprentice-turned-Tracker
hezekiah = Journalist
...and I'm a Townie.

So that leaves us:
EvilGuy
Apollo
Pirate_Ninja

We know that the Admirer is among the more active of us, which pretty much rules EvilGuy out because he's not as active anyway. Apollo hasn't been as active this game (until this round, anyway). This leaves Pirate_Ninja. Who else could be the scurvy dog who wants to ninja us all to death?

At least, that's what I was planning on bringing up, but now, suddenly, I'm not so sure. The SK didn't kill anyone last night-round, which leads me to believe that s/he was either a) busybusybusy, b) tiredtiredtired, or c) both.

Was going to vote P_N, but now...holding off until I can think things through a bit more.

October 18, 2014
Black Yoshi

MM9, I can't agree with you, we know who the journalist is, since he said tracking the serial killer is useless we should probably not listen to him? I guess that makes my role useless now too. I do believe you're a townie B. Yoshi, at this point though, it's probably best to just run down the list. Right now I suspect it's most likely evilguy, but if not then next round we should lynch PN, and after that you. We've got enough folks to hold out, and we know most of the roles already.

October 18, 2014
Ghowilo

Right now I suspect it's most likely evilguy, but if not then next round we should lynch PN, and after that you. We've got enough folks to hold out, and we know most of the roles already.


Actually:

If we mislynch now the ratio will be 4-1-1.

Everyone alive has posted in this day round, so we know there will be a night kill. The ratio after the kill will be 3-1-1.

If we mislynch again, the ratio will be 2-1-1.

Night kill will bring it to 1-1-1.

Which at that point it will be up to hezekiah who wins the game, and I don't really want to end the game like that.

If we lynch hezekiah, we still have two opportunities to lynch regardless. Our lynches won't be influenced by an outside/uncaring third party like they seem to be now. When if gets to the final living players, if even one townie is convinced by something the serial killer says, and ends up voting for another townie, we've pretty much lost. With the Journalist dictating who should be killed, the serial killer has an easy target to vote for.

I've noticed in previous mafia games that people are much more willing to bandwagon with existing votes than to bring up a first vote for someone else. That makes me nervous going into the endgame with hezekiah alive and I personally don't want to deal with that kind of element being in play.

October 18, 2014
MajorasMask9

since we had the night off, I do think it's a reasonable idea to get rid of the Journalist. At this point, he has no incentive to help the town win - rather, the longer the game continues, the more chances he has to score points. We'd lose nothing but a wild card that could backfire on us.

...and I'm a Townie.
thank you for answering my one simple question unlike some people who were able to provide stories and excuses but not roles. I'm not particularly suspicious of Majora and his claim, but there is literally no good reason not to take the precaution while we still have the chance.

October 18, 2014
Pirate_Ninja

Thing is, if I help the SK, I lose my survival point.

October 18, 2014
hezekiah

If y'all think it a good idea, I can visit MM9 during the night round and if I die we'll know for sure.

But only if others feel it's necessary.

October 18, 2014
Ghowilo

Townie C here though I don't know who Townie A is.

October 18, 2014
EvilGuy0613

I refuse to die be the one to die because we have no better leads.

October 19, 2014
EvilGuy0613

Why? You've barely contributed the entire game. It seems to me your trying to stall the lynch

October 19, 2014
Ghowilo

You have 12 hours.

October 19, 2014
Helius

Well, it was asked if I was *not* a Townie, therefore I didn't bother answering. Also, it wouldn't really matter if I did claim Townie because a Townie claim doesn't really hold much weight when there are three left. It gives the SK a very comfy amount of hiding room. So yeah, it's not exactly like me saying "I'm a townie lol" would mean much to the outcome of the game.

But just for the record, I'm a townie lol.

Lynching the Journalist won't do us much good, but it's not the worst thing we could do. Lynching anyone who has claimed Townie or would by default could potentially be our best option at this point just because it gives the Serial Killer less room to hide (also, if hezekiah tells the truth then we'd have at least 2 people looking out at night for the SK which could either deter them from killing or get them caught).

So I'd probably lean slightly towards not killing hezekiah but I don't really care if we do if he's really not helping anything.

October 19, 2014
Apollo Justice

@Ghowilo: And? As mentioned I've been absent most of the game otherwise I would try to contribute. Besides not really like I'd have much to contribute as everything has played out pretty well so far. Doesn't mean I don't care about trying to win the game. Voting for me just for the reason of not having any better leads or me not being contributing much is kind of risky this far and will decrease the town's numbers. However, if everyone is interested in narrowing the targets down then vote away I guess.

Also not actually interested in killing hezekiah. Was just trying to tie the votes.

October 20, 2014
EvilGuy0613

That was my hope, that we could narrow down the suspects.

October 20, 2014
Ghowilo

That was my hope, that we could narrow down the suspects.

October 20, 2014
Ghowilo

I still would rather lynch hezekiah simply for the fact that I do not want him to start influencing the next day rounds in any way. I realize it probably seems like I'm being overly cautious here to a point that's borderline paranoid, but since there is no drawback to lynching hezekiah, and we will still have 2 more lynches that are not even remotely influenced by a Journalist, I'd rather go for that that risk it.

To reiterate my concern, hezekiah will likely write a journalist article saying something along the lines of "we should vote for EvilGuy" and put a vote in for EvilGuy (see: this round.) Seeing as there are no *obvious* leads, people will likely not have a problem with that and vote with him (see: this round.) If you get even one town-sided person to go along with that in the next rounds it's an easy win for the serial killer. I don't want something like that to happen.

Just my thoughts.

October 20, 2014
MajorasMask9

guys where r u...

I'm not going to put a vote on EvilGuy. I think the Serial Killer not making a kill was them intentionally trying to make EvilGuy or Apollo look like the serial killer. Unfortunately, both EvilGuy and Apollo posted soon after the round started so we know the Serial Killer didn't simply "miss their kill." Knowing that, I don't think EvilGuy is the best kill choice right now. The fact that EvilGuy has two votes despite that exemplifies why I want hezekiah out of play.

October 20, 2014
MajorasMask9

I'm about to go to sleep so nvm lol :(.

Don't want a tie regardless of whether or not I think hezekiah should be dead now. That would probably be the worst outcome of today.

October 20, 2014
MajorasMask9

But I definitely want to reiterate that if EvilGuy isn't the Serial Killer then anything hezekiah says next round should just be completely ignored. He would arguably be happier to drag the game on until there's only one townie, the serial killer, and himself alive, than ending the game early.

October 20, 2014
MajorasMask9

Well I'm not your serial killer. Just saying before I die...

October 20, 2014
EvilGuy0613

1. SDYoshiMafioso
2. Black Yoshi
3. CastraelTownie
4. Jo NathanSerial Killer
5. LightvayneGodfather
6. `Roxas`Silencer
7. white lancerTownie
8. CtR BlackMarksman
9. MajorasMask9
10. EvilGuy0613Townie
11. Lady FlareDoctor
12. Pirate Ninja
13. Ghowilo
14. hezekiah
15. chiefsonnyTracker
16. The BanditSpecial Club Member
17. Count DookuSpecial Club Member
18. Apollo Justice
19. Speed Bike ProTownie
20. Superbird KyonGuard
21. BubbaMafia Investigator

411

Townie
Apprentice – Tracker Fill In
Granny
Townies X 2

3rd Party
Journalist

Other
Admirer – Serial Killer Stand In

October 20, 2014
Helius

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