Mafia

Interesting choice, hez, rest his soul. He was one of the players more difficult to read. Would've thought they'd go for someone else.

With Kyon being mafia, LLight goes 4/4 in guessing power roles. I don't know if he'll ever make it past day 1 again.

Unless the two remaining Mafia are REALLY good players, I'd say we've got this one in the bag. We just need to think carefully in the next couple of rounds and not go lynching willy-nilly like we've done near the end of past games.

That said, I've been thinking about what JN said about Chief way back in Day 4:



I'll admit, that did catch my attention, but I was so wrapped up in the whole Yeano thing, I overlooked it completely. I'd say it's time we examine Chief more closely.

I think a role claim might be good, that would tell us 2 people who are town sided and lower the pool in figuring out mafia. I am a townie.

I dunno why but people pointing out the obvious about someone's death always appears suspicious to me >_>



The next Redack, hmm? xD



Indeed. Our numbers aren't too bad right now so we don't need to be lynch-happy, but then we shouldn't be too conservative and hold off and allow the Mafia to close in.



I was just thinking that. I'm a townie. Now all you Mafia let's play a little game...

MARCO!

Some classic The Who for the moment ;D

I'm still suspicious of Black Yoshi. But lynching inactive players somehow seems to have worked this game. Llight's genius list was spot on. He was 4/4. Unfortunately, now we have to do things on our own. It's Sherlock Holmes time.

Okay, something's off about #85 and Trever. Sure, both claimed Townie, but what really strikes me odd is that both are gunning for a roleclaim. Trust me when I say that, with Lazarus still in play, a roleclaim is possibly the worst move we could make at this point. Both Mafia would claim Townie, and a roleclaim would give them a free shot at the Governor and Lazarus, giving them nothing but a forest of Townies to hide amongst. Therefore, both #85 and Trever have gained my suspicion. As for which to vote for, I'm a bit more hesitant with Trever than #85, because it seems like Trever's been helping the town out quite a bit. Therefore...

#85 was the first person to vote for Kyon last round. The mafia has to be voting their own out, but would they cast the first vote?

I've voted Mafia everytime and I think I will again

If they had LLight's list and Yeano's cop verdicts going against their own, yes they would, if only to make those not subject to either look innocent.

Yeah. I don't buy the whole "Would I have voted my own mafia member out" line anymore. There are reasons for that such as maybe there was a fight in the mafia thread, maybe they figured an inactive player wasn't helping them at all and decided to get him voted out so they could come off looking clean, etc. So that theory really doesn't mean anything to me.

Not sure who to vote for yet. I'll have to read over posts from past days. But I agree with Yoshi that a roleclaim right now isn't a good idea.

I guess I forgot that there... Meh.



Well Cas pointed fingers at Kyon to divert attention from her and weid. I think Kyon was an inactive player entirely so getting rid of him probably would not have been a huge loss for them. Doesn't guarantee anyone's innocence for voting Kyon first, but then #85 doesn't appear to be guilty for any reason either.

it'd be somewhat helpful to have one non-Lazarus innocent confirmed, but there doesn't seem to be a whole lot to be done about that.

Kyon seemed little more than a number so I wouldn't count out cutting him loose to try and look innocent.

With so many townies still alive I don't think it would be a huge help to have a roleclaim at this point anyway.

Also Trever, why are you so active now. With nearly all of power players out, it would make sense for a mafia member to start being more active now. I understand you could've been out of reception or something, but everything just seems so convenient. You not posting really at all for the first few days and now your playing style is completely different.

Because

1) I am less busy now IRL 2) I feel more inclined to post if I'm still alive towards the end of the game 3) It's easier to reply and participate when there's not two dozen other people I have read replies of and respond to.

Fair enough?

I was just trying to point something out. I'm not saying I'm suspicious of you or anything. I was just wondering if you had issues in RL. But I got all I need.

How much time left in this day round?

By my clock, around seven and a half hours.

A few observations.

Having been in the Mafia a few times in past games, I have seen the Mafia throw their own under the bus if it's for the good of the team. But in my experience this usually only happens maybe once or twice in a game. Not 4-5 times.

Having gone back and checked the voting records of the remaining living players in the game all but 3 players have voted for confirmed Mafia members 4-5 times. The 3 players that have not are:

Pirate_Ninja: voted once for a Mafia Member and has only voted twice in the game even though he has posted in most of the rounds.

Trever Leingod: Same as Pirate_Ninja. except he has posted less.

igga: voted twice for a Mafia member, has voted 3 times in the game.

Does any of this mean anything. That's something you'll have to decide for yourself.

But I find it very strange that any Mafia member, since they know who their fellow members are, would throw them under the bus 4-5 times.

The only way I could see them doing this if they saw that there was no way to stop the vote, so to protect them self they voted for a fellow Mafia.
But for that to happen 4-5 times. ???

lol, has it really been only twice? I know one round ended super-prematurely, but I didn't realize I'd beem that conservative~

I usually hold off voting until late in the hopes that there'll be more to go on. And I've missed a fair bit of it because A) I've been stupid busy lately with personal matters (it's been a hit on my activity everywhere), and 2) I was wary of hopping aboard the ~COP CLAIM HYPE TRAIN~ that guided a fair bit of the voting.

Given that we had a few actual verdicts in the end, I think it's a bit of a risk to take those votes as an assurance of innocence. Or maybe you're onto something and you just picked me out along with the actual remaining mafia, I dunno. Unfortunately, the only thing I'm really certain of right now is my own innocence, and I don't know how much more we're likely to get. But I'd sooner cast suspicion on Trever than igga due to the events surrounding Apollo's death.

Well with three votes in 70 hours it seems like a lot of people may have lost interest.

I have to go with my gut and what I've been able to read.

We need to come up with a decision and fast. I think chiefsonny's theory sounds spot on. At the moment, it's a three way tie. We should lynch someone because we're just running out of time if we don't. I've been suspicious of BY the whole game, but based on chief's theory, we should take out one of those three. So let's go for it. Let's hope the mafia hits the lazarus tonight and he resurrects so we know who a mafia member is.

I was too. But when he voted for Kyon at the start of Round 7 with only 3 Mafia left. I had to look at it from a different view. He's either got a hidden agenda that the other Mafia don't know about or he may be townie.

yeah I'm gonna have to go ahead and object to this course of action

because if you lynch me it's gonna say you killed one of the good guys and you will feel bad. Unless, y'know, you're mafia and you can go high-five in your secret hangout topic because you successfully did your job

of killing innocent people

like me

PN. it was not personal. The three names on my list were you, Trever and Bubba.

I hope you are right and prove me wrong.

oh I'm not taking it personally, it's just that I need to be able to say "I told you so" if the people go through with it and kill my town-sided ass

I was suspicious of Bubba for a while but a bit less so recently.