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ssb game role discussion

Posted July 14, 2013 by Feral

So, I want to go over the rolls I have planned, so we can all agree on a balanced roster here;

Heroes

Mario Bros.- Mario and Luigi both share the power of the typical Governor. Either or can stop a lynching. They also have the added benefit of sharing a private thread.

Peach is a new role I created, the Maiden. Being the sweet, charming, innocent princess she is, NOBODY wishes to harm her. In fact, the ONLY way she can die is via Mafia kill. She can not be killed by special role or lynching. She has no night action.

Yoshi- Seeing as how he eats constantly, I figure that the Vigilante role is perfect for him.

Snake- Spy, or course. Can read the last post of a Villians role.

Pikachu- Pikachu's trainer has other Pokemon that can be sent out to help. Each night, Pikachu gets the assistance of a random one of his fellow Pokemon

*Chansey- Acts like the Doctor, can protect one person.

*Herdier- Acts like Cop. Can stiff out one person's roll.

*Psyduck- Confuses Pikachu, making him unable to act that night. This is the only ability used automatically.

*Jigglypuff- Acts like Silencer, can put one to person to sleep, preventing them from talking the next day.

*Charizard- Can send the intimidating fire dragon to protect one person. The person selecting is immune to ALL other actions that night.

If Pikachu does NOT use the ability received, he will lose at the start of the day round.

Toads- Vanilla Townies

Villans

M. Hand- Bringing back my beloved Grinch role(chief loved being this). Master Hand is revealed to the town at start. No worries though, because being the end boss, he can NOT be lynched/killed until every other Villian is dead. He has the fun ability to taunt the good guys without fair of death.

Bowser- With his trademark fiery breath, he is the arsonist. He can pick one player and attempt to burn down his room.

Dedede- He is the king. He has the ability to cancel ALL night actions, like a night time governor. However, he can only do this ONCE.

Mewtwo- With his Psychic powers, he can prevent one player from using their night role, much like a psychotic genius Hooker.

Goomba- Vanilla Mafia.

3rd Party

Sonic- Sonic never asked to be put in this stupid game. All he wants is to forfeit. Much like the Fool, he WANTS to lose. Unlike the Fool, however, he wants to be killed by the Villians. That is how he gains his three points. He gets nothing for being lynched. However, the Villians wants to avoid the Sonic at all costs, as all living bad guys will lose a point if he is Mafia killed. *

*Unlike the Fool role, the game does NOT end with Sonic's death. Sonic shows up as a Hero to Herdier.

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There were other roles I planned out, but there were to many for this small group. I decided not to add any SSB items an in attempt to keep things from getting too confusing.

So, what do you thing? What should stay and what should go?

There are 27 Replies


I thought the arsonist was originally town-sided?

July 14, 2013
Jo Nathan

Arsonist can be either. I like switching things up. In this game, Silencer, normally a Mafia role, is only possible as a town ability via Pikachu.

July 14, 2013
Feral

Love it.

Only thing is what if I wind up getting the Yoshi role? Then come a role reveal the game would turn into Abbott and Costello:

Alright, I'll reveal: I'm Yoshi.
I know, but what role are you?
I said, I'm Yoshi.
Yes, but which role?
I'm telling you, I'm Yoshi!

July 14, 2013
Black Yoshi

*Chansey- Acts like the Doctor, can protect one person.

*Herdier- Acts like Cop. Can stiff out one person's roll.

*Psyduck- Confuses Pikachu, making him unable to act that night. This is the only ability used automatically.

Maybe these should be changed to SSB characters? I mean, just for the sake of the theme. That's my only qualm.

July 14, 2013
Apollo Justice

Chansey has appeared in Smash before, if I remember; it was one of the pokemon who would pop out of that rooftop door on the Saffron City stage in the original, and a Pokeball character in Melee.

July 14, 2013
Black Yoshi

EDIT: She was a Poke Ball Pokemon in the original and Melee, as well as appearing in Saffron City as one the pokemon who would appear from that rooftop door. And Psyduck was one of the platforms in Melee's Poke Floats stage.

July 14, 2013
Black Yoshi

I know, I meant if we stuck to maybe the Character roster, because that's a heavy emphasis on Pokemon and other Nintendo series are being left out because of how many Pokemon roles there are. But I guess it doesn't matter, since it's just a title.

Like I said, I like it all {:P} I just think it would be more appropriate for a Smash-themed game to change them to like, other playable characters that aren't Pokemon.

For example, Ness could be Psyduck (psychic abilities), Zelda could be Chansey, etc.

Also, no Captain Falcon. This is a sad day.

July 14, 2013
Apollo Justice

Mario and Luigi
Peach
Yoshi
Snake
Pikachu
Chansey
Herdier
Psyduck
Jigglypuff
Charizard
M. Hand
Bowser
Dedede
Mewtwo
Goomba
Sonic

I don't know who all these people are, but you guy's are making me horny just talking about them.

July 14, 2013
chiefsonny
 

Well, now that I reread it, I realize... they're all dependent on the Pikachu role. I guess I didn't get it the first time I read it.

Umm, I don't know. I guess that's just a bit confusing. I feel like that is reminiscent of 17.1 with the power packs and that didn't end too well.

Just my two cents. I think it's a little too gimmick-y with the Pikachu role, especially if he has control over the Cop, Doctor, etc. (well, that's what it looks like from how you explain it, but I really don't know).

July 14, 2013
Apollo Justice

Wouldn't it make more sense to replace Pikachu with Pokemon Trainer since his gimmick is the assistance of his Pokemon?

July 14, 2013
Speed Bike Pro
 

Wouldn't it make more sense to replace Pikachu with Pokemon Trainer since his gimmick is the assistance of his Pokemon?


I agree. :)

July 14, 2013
Castrael

Also, no Captain Falcon. This is a sad day.

^

July 14, 2013
White Thunder

Seems really over powered for the town to give them the pikachu role and give the mafia the master hand role.

July 14, 2013
The Bandit

I can always switch out Pikachu for a completly different role.

Was gonna make Link & Zelda, but would add to many useless roles.

Kirby is known for tempoaraly taking another players power. This sounds perfect in theory, but would be way to over powered in actual play.

DK is a big strong guy, and we have enough killing roles as is.

I know C. Falcon is really popular, but I have no idea what gimmick to give him.

Allright, how about this:

Link- Stealth Wolf. Each night, Link assumes wolf form and stakes out one players room. He will know entered and left that room that night.

July 14, 2013
Feral

*Link and Zelda lovers

July 14, 2013
Feral

I know C. Falcon is really popular, but I have no idea what gimmick to give him.
Isn't Falcon a bounty hunter when he's not racing? That's pretty close to vigilantism imo. Thinking about your theme before this thread was made, I thought that if you wanted Yoshi you might make him something like the FBI Agent, with the ability to "imprison" someone (who he hopes is a villain) in an egg.

July 14, 2013
Pirate_Ninja

Mayhap make Master Hand the Godfather? And, just for a twist, introduce Wario as the Janitor? Like, make his ability to actually eat people a bit more macabre and have him actually swallow the people he eats?

And replace Pikachu with the Pokemon Trainer, who would use:
*Chansey (Doctor)
*Squirtle (Cop)
*Ivysaur (uses Stun Spore, if it even knows that move, to stun the Trainer, rendering him useless for the night)
*Charizard (as above)
*Jigglypuff (Silencer, as above)

July 14, 2013
Black Yoshi



déjŕ vu

July 14, 2013
chiefsonny
 

Mayhap make Master Hand the Godfather?

I would like this. I am not a fan of the grinch role at all.

July 14, 2013
The Bandit

M. Hand- Bringing back my beloved Grinch role(chief loved being this). Master Hand is revealed to the town at start. No worries though, because being the end boss, he can NOT be lynched/killed until every other Villian is dead. He has the fun ability to taunt the good guys without fair of death.

Hah, wow I didn't even read that. Yeah, I can't say I see much point in that. It's... a pretty significant disadvantage in a lot of ways.

July 14, 2013
Apollo Justice

Well, I guess there's a point, but... I just ummmmmmm... It sounds like it would make the Mafia pretty underpowered.

July 14, 2013
Apollo Justice

Mario Bros/Peach sound like fine roles...bear in mind that including all three means that you effectively have 3 unlynchable Town-sided players, which is dangerous. If this setup stays the same, keep the number of Town power roles low.

Master Hand isn't entirely pointless...he's another number for the Mafia and can help in the planning. Strictly weaker than a vanilla Mafioso, of course.

Bowser might make up for that a little bit, if only because the potential for a double nightkill is very powerful for the Mafia to have.

Seeing as how the Mafia have the most powerful night actions, Dedede's power is pretty useless.

And yeah, replacing Herdier with a different Pokémon would be my preference given the theme, seeing as how Brawl came out well before Generation 5. {:P}

July 15, 2013
white lancer

And yeah, replacing Herdier with a different Pokémon would be my preference given the theme, seeing as how Brawl came out well before Generation 5. {:P}


Houndoom/Houndour, maybe?

July 15, 2013
Black Yoshi

Oh, oh, an idea strikes: what if we made the Ice Climbers Lovers -- and have it so that whomever's Popo (the lead Ice Climber) won't die when Nana (the female IC) dies first, but if Popo dies first then both of them die, like in Smash?

July 18, 2013
Black Yoshi

I'm gonna be out of town until Friday so I'll miss the first couple of rounds, sorry guys.

July 21, 2013
Speed Bike Pro
 

Will the game be starting tomorrow?

July 21, 2013
Apollo Justice

Apologies for the wait--Feral has some personal stuff going on and I told him not to worry about it. We're trying to get it figured out now.

July 23, 2013
white lancer

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