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star wars empire dead thread

Posted June 12, 2012 by Trever Leingod

The graveyard for lost players {:?}

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Trever, Feral was the PGO right? That's why he didn't die?

June 19, 2012
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The Bandit

everything redack said

lol this fucking game is so stupid. Holy God I continue to be amazed at how selfishly you assholes play. I'm never, ever doing this again.

June 19, 2012
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The Bandit

Actually the Assassin killed you before you burned Feral.

June 20, 2012
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Trever Leingod

How does that work, exactly?

June 20, 2012
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The Bandit

Night Actions Order.

I'm surprised there isn't more discussion going on in here. =|

June 20, 2012
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`Roxas`

Holy God I continue to be amazed at how selfishly you assholes play.

Well, the stupid thing about it is that it's not even really selfish on Redack's part, because he's ensured that he's going to lose the game as well. It's different than Roxas' move because Roxas at least was doing something that would help him win the game while Redack's done exactly the opposite. Deliberately sabotaging your own ability to win should be worth negative gameplaying points IMO.

Redack's solution to a broken game is to break the game in the other direction, and yet he had no qualms about taking advantage of the overpowered converting role and traitorous players last round. Apparently only Redack is allowed to benefit from powerful game mechanics--gotta love hypocrisy.

June 20, 2012
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white lancer

You play to win the game. I also don't think it's fair that he could get out of the lynching because of an "overpowered role," yet that probably wouldn't have been the case for me last game. Oh well. Just goes to show that you can't take a chance on some players.

June 20, 2012
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`Roxas`

I still don't agree with DragonintheShadow not being executed in Day Two. He had the majority of votes, and it didn't look like things were going to change over the last two hours of the round.

June 20, 2012
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`Roxas`

I explained in the Rebel thread why he didn't die. Beyond that the Emperor opted to stop DitS from dying as a safeguard.

June 20, 2012
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Trever Leingod

They did? x.x

June 20, 2012
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`Roxas`

It is selfish though. It's even more selfish than what Roxas did. He wants everyone to pat him on the back and say "Wow, great job Redack!" when what he did takes no skill at all. A monkey could IM someone and say "Hey, convert me!" and then turn on his team.

You play to win the game.

You play to win the game for your team. It's a team game. Normally I would be really confused as to why this is so hard for you guys to understand, but it's pretty clear. Even if the rules of this game were sorted out and everyone played in line, it would still be a horrible, horrible experience because of the egos involved. I do not see mafia lasting much longer, except for about five people who will probably never understand why it died.

June 20, 2012
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The Bandit

Lesson to be learned from this - don't trust Redack, even if he tells you the sun is round.

June 20, 2012
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Trever Leingod

What each player does with their own game is their own business. You do what you have to do to get yourself the points you need to win. Not to degrade the game of anybody who joined during this Star Wars special, but those of us who were around for the first six games enjoy the game as it is. There is no full-proof way of stopping what is happening from happening. Knux didn't tell me he was the MD until the start of Day Two. He let it slip that he was the MD, so I cut a deal with him that if he were to save two of us and not say anything about it in the main thread, we'd probably convert him.

I sort of see this as a game much like a NASCAR race is. You have a team of people, but each individual is their own team as well. You play the game by yourself, even if you are part of a team. We saw that last game when Feral and I planned on going into business for ourselves and joining the Sith. You do what gives you the best chance to win is my take on it. Sadly, Redack doesn't see things the same way.

June 21, 2012
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`Roxas`

Nice not to be the center of chaos, and acually play a damn good game for once. Shame I died in the final night, but nice to know that the Rebel is scared of me. Unfortunatly for him, I had a feeling this might happen, and have a back-up. I contacted someone I knew I could trust and went over the plan with him. He will make sure everybody does what needs to be done to lynch the final rebel.

I may not get the survival point, but I damn sure qualified for the Imperial MVP points.

June 21, 2012
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Feral

How do you figure so, Feral? Mind telling us of this plan? I haven't talked with Teddy, the only other player I'd talk to outside of the game, in a few days and he hasn't messaged me about the game at all.

And who do you think is the final Rebel member?

June 21, 2012
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`Roxas`

I have no idea who the last rebel is.

All the Imperials have to do is mass reveal. The Rebel will be forced to fake-claim a role. Then they just have to look for what role two people claimed. They lynch the most suspicious of the two, and if they are wrong, the Assassin kills the other in the night.

Worst case senerio, the rebel false claims Stormtrooper, and it takes an extra day to weed him out. Regardless, the Imperials WILL win.

June 21, 2012
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Feral

Yeah, I suppose. Wish this would have played out like last game though. {>:(} Oh well. Good move, I suppose by Redack's part. Even if he is on the losing end.

June 21, 2012
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`Roxas`

If it's any consolation, this was't a sudden decision on his part. He told me he planned this out before the game even started and revealed in day 1 on purpose. I guess it was less of a betrayel and more like he was a spy or double agent.

Why he chose to confide in me, I don't know, but I had to take atvantage of whatevet happened, to help my team win.

June 21, 2012
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Feral

Understandable. Guess we should have seen it coming, given who was trying to strike the deal. {:P}

June 21, 2012
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`Roxas`

I actually think it was Night 0 that Redack asked Trever to relay the message to us about his wanting to be converted. >_<

June 21, 2012
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`Roxas`

Well he was complaining about being the Outsider to begin with xD

June 21, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Majora just made a list of people who claimed to be Stormtroopers. Oddly, he included Zanic, the dead Aprentice, in that list.

June 21, 2012
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Feral

So you put your trust in MM9, Feral? Nice.

June 21, 2012
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`Roxas`

Majora? Nope. He came up with the same idea, but he isn't the guy I am working with. In fact, I don't even have any contact info for him.

My partner has't posted yet.

June 21, 2012
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Feral

If I had to take a shot, I would put my money as Black Yoshi as the final rebel. He has been pretty negetive, and uncooperative. Also, while it may not mean anthing, he voted for Red last round.

I doubt it's Teddy. When he is alone on the Mafia side, he gets razzled pretty quick, and would have slipped up by now.

It isn't #85. Were he falsly claiming DV, the real one would have said something by now.

Not Chief or Hezy, arson victims.

Not Shadow. He was to eager to jump on Red's plan.

So yeah, I would say Yoshi. If not him, then CtR or Majora.

June 21, 2012
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Feral

I could go on and on and on, but whatever. I have no intention of playing anymore anyway, so convincing anyone is just a waste of time.

June 21, 2012
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The Bandit

Chief or hezy are still possible, if Bandit or I were to target our own teammate. I can tell you that I targeted both and got neither. You were going to be killed by Bandit's arson, had the Assassin not got to him first.

It's just odd at how little talking has been done this game as a whole.

June 21, 2012
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`Roxas`

Oh, Teddy, always trying to lighten the mood in this game.

June 21, 2012
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`Roxas`

I am confident that Cheif and Hezy aren't guilty for seperate reasons.

Cheif didn't know that the last rebel knew the assassins identity until Majora pointed out what Red.

Hezekiah actually came to me with the same plan I had. I doubt he would have asked me not to silence anybody were he guilty.

June 21, 2012
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Feral

Oh, and Teddy may have inadvertintly prooven his innosence with his joke.

The joke wouldn't make sense coming from a Rebel, and Teddy just isn't clever enough to use a joke as a subtle defence.

June 21, 2012
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Feral

Teddy's hidden behind his eccentricity as Mafia before. I don't think most players are going to count him out just yet.

And since when is Fett on the Town's side? Why does he show up as Rebel in the Empire-Rebel ratio? That doesn't make sense at all.

June 21, 2012
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white lancer

He doesn't. The ratio starts at 14-4, and Trever told me the Ghost is the forth rebel. I'm guessing the logic is that Boba Fett worked with the Empire, therefore he's a "good guy."

June 21, 2012
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The Bandit

Just damn! I have heard some whacked out ideas, but hezekiah asking everybody to kill themselves takes the cake.

June 21, 2012
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Feral

That is something I didn't see coming. chief being reluctant to do so is understandable, but hezekiah makes a very good point.

June 21, 2012
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`Roxas`

Not when Majora's idea makes so much more sence it doesn't!

Can the executioner even kill more then one person at a time.

June 21, 2012
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Feral

So long as any player gets over 1/3 of the votes, that person may be killed. Doesn't matter how many people reach 1/3, just so long as they reach 1/3.

June 21, 2012
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`Roxas`

Redack's solution to a broken game is to break the game in the other direction, and yet he had no qualms about taking advantage of the overpowered converting role and traitorous players last round. Apparently only Redack is allowed to benefit from powerful game mechanics--gotta love hypocrisy.

If you can't fix it, smash it into pieces. You'll also note last game we didn't accept the traitorous players offer, we killed one of them and the other we had intended to convert regardless... I did have issue with the roles last game too, I even commented to Trever about it. However I wasn't going to betray the team I started on was I and certainly I didn't want to upset Dooku whilst in murdering distance.

It is selfish though. It's even more selfish than what Roxas did. He wants everyone to pat him on the back and say "Wow, great job Redack!" when what he did takes no skill at all. A monkey could IM someone and say "Hey, convert me!" and then turn on his team.

I was actually going to humour this with a long response about how you're wrong about me, but lets just leave it at... You're wrong about me.

June 21, 2012
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Redack

Well, I'm curious. Why didn't you rat out the last member of the Rebels?

June 21, 2012
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`Roxas`

Figured it'd be fun to see how long the last Rebel could survive...

June 21, 2012
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Redack

While I don't like it, I can accept that. {:P}

June 21, 2012
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`Roxas`

However I wasn't going to betray the team I started on was I and certainly I didn't want to upset Dooku whilst in murdering distance.

LOL, it'd be shameful to get killed by a headless, handless guy {troll}

June 21, 2012
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Trever Leingod

Man, all this bickering is getting nowhere.

Turns out my back-up decided not to go with my plan.

At this rate, the limit will pass, and a default no kill will go through and a bunch of townies will die. Hate to say it, but the town in helpless without me keeping them on one page.

June 21, 2012
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Feral

While I don't like it, I can accept that.

But just look at them, arguing over what to do and completely clueless as to who the last Rebel is {:P}

June 21, 2012
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Redack

Good. That's how it should have been. {:P}

June 21, 2012
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`Roxas`

It is funny though, how this is going to end. I will laugh if #4 gets out of this untouched. {:D}

June 21, 2012
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`Roxas`

The idea hezekiah stated works, as does the role reveals, but no one is listening. They're actually giving the last Rebel a fighting chance in spite of themselves.

June 21, 2012
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Trever Leingod

FINALLY! Teddy revealed Stormtrooper, narrowing it to four people.

They should just do as Hezekiah says now.

I have a few choice words for Yoshi and CTR when this is done. They are both acting like idiots.

June 21, 2012
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Feral

Well, that's that. I'm sure the entire town will be pleased with their well deserved victory.

June 21, 2012
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The Bandit

Well deserved my ass. I have a minor confession to make. Two, actually.

1. While Hezekiah DID ask me not to silence, there was no "partner". I knew that with Zanic and Xhin being absent from this thread, I was the only imperial here. I also knew I struck a nerve with the last rebel. I made up the thing about the "partner" in hopes one of you would PM the rebel repeating what I said, and put pressure on them. Obvipuly, it failed since WT did a remarkable job keeping cool and quiet while everybody fought like children.

2. The game only ended becase I e-mailed Teddy and told him to reveal if he was Assassin or Stormtrooper(and adding that he was doing awesome, were he the rebel). Teddy trusts me completly, so picking him to nudge was easy.

I had the game planned out and won, and those idiots(accept Majora) through away everything I died for.

With the exception of the controversial Redack, I easily played the best game of any Imperial. Sometimes, it's the ones who die who are most important.

June 21, 2012
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Feral

Dragonintheshadow still "holding" his vote lolololololol

June 21, 2012
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The Bandit

Told you, idiots. If Red hadn't done what he did, i'm sure you would have won.

June 21, 2012
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Feral

Dammit Redack. {:P}

And lancer, I thought that Thunder said he'd give 'em hell for us. That liar. {>:(}

June 22, 2012
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`Roxas`

Once whoever random voted for Thunder, there's nothing he can really do. He would have made it two more rounds if they actually tried to guess instead of just random picking imo

June 22, 2012
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The Bandit

Yeah, I guess. Oh well, "good" game by the Empire.

June 22, 2012
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`Roxas`

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